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Ron Paul To Ben Bernanke: "People Lose Trust In The Government Because You Lie To Them About Inflation"

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Anytime Ron Paul sits across from Ben Bernanke you know sparks will fly. Sure enough, they did: starting 3 mins 50 seconds into the clip below, Ron Paul, guns blazing, asks the Chairman if he does his own shopping, if he is aware of what true inflation is, and if he knows that Americans don't trust the government because they are being lied to about inflation. And it only gets better, once Paul starts brandishing a silver coin. The punchline: "The Fed will self-destruct anyway when the money is gone" - amen. And ironically letting the Fed keep on doing what it is doing will achieve that in the fastest possible way. In fact, letting the system cannibalize itself with no further hindrances may be the best option currently available - just go to town.

 

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Wed, 02/29/2012 - 12:30 | 2208256 VulpisVulpis
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f t w

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 12:34 | 2208288 bdc63
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time to twist and shout like we did last summer ...

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 12:38 | 2208314 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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bitchez

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 12:41 | 2208347 HoofHearted
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Shit...never give the mic to Bawney Fwank. I guess you have to go through the pain of that guy to get to hear the real truth.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 12:47 | 2208380 Troll Magnet
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and to think a bunch of retards voted for romney and satorum in droves yesterday instead of ron paul...we are F.U.C.K.E.D.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 12:50 | 2208398 Fukushima Sam
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I really like Ron Paul, but his question was about as well-delivered as I would have after three bong hits.

Hopefully over the next few years some new blood will be able to take Ron Paul's message and deliver it with more aplomb.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 12:58 | 2208451 Harlequin001
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Wasted. He needs to learn how to ask a question and then shut the fuck up...

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:09 | 2208477 redpill
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The Bernank does not have to answer anything he doesn't want to.  Ron Paul knows that.  He's not asking him questions because he thinks he'll get an answer, but rather to insert the topics into the converation and into the record.  

 

It's easy to forget how far gone things really are.  I found it particularly amusing when Benjamin Shalom (B.S.)  Bernanke asserted that the inflation statistics were "independently" compiled by the BLS.

 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:14 | 2208540 economics1996
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Rand Paul and Peter Shiff need to step up to the plate after this year.  It is a shame Schiff lost his senate bid.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:54 | 2208722 trav7777
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but the ultimate bitchslap was how the bernank made that silver coin worth 10% less FRNs in the span of 10 minutes

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 14:19 | 2208873 JLee2027
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You've confused the phony manipulated FED-controlled paper price with the real physical price again.

Two different things.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 14:26 | 2208920 JW n FL
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Bernake Lends Against the Stock Purchases!

The Money is Rolled over into new Purchases of yet more stock!

The .25% that is paid on money barrowed?? that was raised from JUNK!! Collateral! to begin with? means NOTHING!!

 

Bernake Does NOT Need QE-3 outright where everyone can see it!

He has been printing every day of every week for YEARS! to push the market this much higher!

 

But becuase YOU FUCKING PROPOGANDA LOVING TOOLS DONT HAVE A WHITE PAPER ON HOW TO DO IT??? YOU ARE FUCKING BLIND??

 

It is days like today that I believe you fucking stupid fucks deserve what is happening to you.

Now down arrow for your ego becuase of your ignroance!

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 15:37 | 2209222 Pretorian
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Nice 1 JW, Not onlu Bernanke lend against Stock Purchase but also against Commodity , buying into marker with worthless printed $ real assets. The country around the world are ultra stupid including Chinese.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:24 | 2209791 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Today was a two-fer. Ron Paul also took on Hillary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2krkHHlKhF0&feature=player_embedded

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:37 | 2209875 engineertheeconomy
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We only have until the middle of June to get out of underneath the GLD and buy physical Gold, because that's when the Pan Asian Gold Exchange opens and it will reduce the GLD to Zero where it belongs

How could 1 paper share of GLD be worth $1800?

$1800 dollars for a little tiny piece of paper ? ? ?

Are you out of your fucking mind ? ? ?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:48 | 2210330 BW
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What if Iran took silver for oil?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 20:19 | 2210407 derek_vineyard
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They are about to overtly take blood for oil.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 10:54 | 2212436 LauraB
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Yesterday: From Fox Business: Iran Embraces Gold As Real Money: http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2012/02/29/iran-embraces-gold-as-real-money/ 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 15:46 | 2209282 Michael
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Nothing will change no matter which establishment candidate wins the Whitehouse. Everybody knows this already.

It appears Dr Ron Paul will not be the GOP nominee, therefore the Ron Paul Crew will hand Obama the win by not voting for any of the establishment candidates. The Paul supporters will write in Ron Paul, or vote third party. Nearly 100% of them by my estimation, and vote against all incumbent congress critters too.

It will appear Obama and the Democrats gets most of the blame for the final destruction of the economy and country. I'm OK with that.  

Congratulations on your win President Obama.  Hopefully the people get that black president thing out of their system by the time your next 4 years are up.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 15:52 | 2209303 Michael
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At first I was against that 401k thing because it distorted the markets and took advantage of the general public.

But now I think people who have money in their 401k's are going to get screwed again and deserve it for not learning from the past. I'm laughing my ass off, again, because they're too stupid to know they're going to get screwed again, and it's good for my entertainment.

It's a Schadenfreude thing. 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:27 | 2210273 whstlblwr
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Gene Sharp would disagree with you and he's a better man than you are. I agree you shouldn't vote.

http://reason.com/archives/2011/02/25/teaching-people-power

http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations103a.html

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 20:21 | 2210412 Crisismode
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Gene Sharp would disagree with ANYBODY who disagreed with him.

 

He is a total cult leader.

 

What would you expect.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:11 | 2209407 tarsubil
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Who says Ron Paul won't be the nominee? The media? Guess who picks the nominee. The delegates. 2008 was a test run for Ron Paul. His group is prepared for tricks this time. Everything might slide to Mitt Romney to try to squash the brokered convention but there also might be a riot at district conventions or the state conventions or the national convention.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:20 | 2209450 bbq on whitehou...
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A replay of the 60' democrate convention, only Republican style.

I guess free love, and lots of pot are out of the question but the beer should flow.

Keg party and good BBQ at the Republican convention. Could be a good thing.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:29 | 2209826 LowProfile
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And I'll be repeating this until ZH starts to feature it regularly...

http://www.americanselect.org/

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:17 | 2210243 Kipper und Wipp...
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appealing on the outside, dangerous and fascistic when you look under the covers

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 18:31 | 2210096 Meatier Shower
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Which is why Obama will soon sign this POS legislation into law:

http://rt.com/usa/news/348-act-tresspass-buildings-437/

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 20:00 | 2210369 crazyjsmith
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"those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable"

JFK

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 20:05 | 2210375 Milestones
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Man oh man our constitution is truly gone. I am out of here and I don't care what the fuck this government says. Folks, read the above act if you haven't seen it--and the vote was a landslide with only 3 negative votes. These rotten bastards.        Milestones

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:55 | 2210670 sideway
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How 'bout those honorable Congressmen and women.  Un-f'n believable. Truly sad.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 01:22 | 2211355 Seer
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Not in defense of Obama* or anyone else (just facts), but this is an attempt to clarify an EXISTING law.  Further, it appears that there was nearly unanimous support for it (though only 3 voted against it, Paul was, once again, on this short list [not sure of his stated reasons- always like to hear him, as his positions are almost always 100% sound]).

* Kind of hard to veto something that passes Congress unanimously, not like Obama has a spine or anything...

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:39 | 2210310 Xkwisetly Paneful
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Dead money.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:02 | 2210509 knightowl77
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I will be a Ron Paul delegate to our state convention....I hated how the McCain bots treated Dr Paul in 08 and that ain't happening again

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 01:26 | 2211364 Seer
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"I will be a Ron Paul delegate to our state convention."

I feel sorry for you not because you're a Ron Paul delegate, but because you're going to be surrounded by a whole bunch of fucking idiots, a den of snakes... (oh, and I'm quite familiar with the feeling- it's why I no longer vote)

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:45 | 2209927 malek
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 xxx will hand yyy the win

Written like a true shill

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 18:30 | 2210091 Grinder74
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What's truly scary is that Obama could win by a landslide in 2016.  That's not a typo.  If he can skirt ballot eligibility now, there's nothing stopping him from getting on the ballot in 2016.  And if he and his cronies have such little disregard for the Constitution now, why would they care about that little amendment limiting presidents to two terms?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:55 | 2210674 Seer
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I endured this shit (by the "left") with Bush.  Never seems to get old...

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:42 | 2210613 Bringin It
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Micky - [I'm replying to your following post.] MFGLOBAL!!! HOooArgha!!!
401k's are going to get MFGlobaled.
I continue to be shocked at the immense, amazing gullability of the sheep.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:21 | 2209453 BeetleBailey
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I believe that was both barrels....

 

For the record, I up arrowed.

 

Can I go now, without getting a load of buckshot in my ass?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:51 | 2209609 JW n FL
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I really needed that Laugh!

Thank for being a Good Sport... You are a FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! better man than me Bailey!

God Love Ya and God Bless Ya!

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:17 | 2209765 graymnzrc
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"God Love Ya and God Bless Ya!"

GOD!

Don't bring HER into this!

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 18:56 | 2210181 JW n FL
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if You believe in "God" + The Constitution of the United States + Own Gold and Silver + have more than 1 weeks worth of Girl Scout Cookies + Disagree / Protest / Vioce ANY! Opinion Against the Government of the Untied States ='s You are a Terrorist! a Home Grown, Extremist!

"O" I forgot!! If you served Your Country in Uniform + any of the above You are an Armed and Dangerous Home Grown Terrorist!

So please forgive me for My "God" stuff lately! I just want the FBI to be able to have ALL of the evidence against me.. when they go to Court to Sware to the Judge that I am a Home Grown Terrorist!

 

but you are bringing the rule of thumb to mind!

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:19 | 2210248 Cathartes Aura
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the rule that says you can beat your wife with a stick, providing the circumference is no larger than your thumb?

jaydub, not your best effort.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:43 | 2210316 JW n FL
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it was the "Her" being God that I thought would bring out the more offended, LOL!

sorry it is Fight Club and I have been remisss in my smacking people for no reason as of late.

But Thank You for being interested enough in me to keep me in line!

Love in all forms is a Beautiful thing! and I do wish you more Love than you could ever need.

 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:48 | 2211068 Cathartes Aura
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yes indeed, this IS Fight Club, and we all engage with this in mind - for the record, I've upvoted many of your posts, you throw in good links more often than not, and I love a good rant, ^ ^

and occasionally I'll flick you upside the head - you're "family" here, mad uncle that you are! 

and I too hope you're surrounded by loved-ones who return the favours. . .

take care weirdo!

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 20:18 | 2210409 Ms. Erable
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How quaint that you think they need to go to court before sending you to 'camp'. That concept is so last century.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:37 | 2210594 TheFourthStooge-ing
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JW n FL said:

I just want the FBI to be able to have ALL of the evidence against me.. when they go to Court to Sware to the Judge that I am a Home Grown Terrorist!

Homegrown is alright with me.

Homegrown is the way it should be.

Homegrown is a good thing.

Plant that bell and let it ring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eetrxNlR-M

 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:46 | 2210641 Bringin It
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Thanks Stooge. Neil and I were neighbors once.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 15:18 | 2209135 Bay of Pigs
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It's no use talking to Trav about gold or especially silver.

He's in the Twilight Zone...

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 15:32 | 2209161 akak
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When it comes to silver, our dear raving racist Trav is not even in twilight over the subject --- it's more like he is experiencing a never-ending total eclipse of logic and sanity. 

Regarding silver, Trav is not just in the Twilight Zone, he's in the Nadler Zone.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 15:50 | 2209299 clymer
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Trav is a tool. RP was a little sharper (verbally speaking) in 88:

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4245169480003136735

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 18:15 | 2210043 Doña K
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I checked with an authority in psychological profiling and she concluded that Trav get's spanked at home.

However, she also said that deep inside he is actually a very nice guy and one of these days will change his name and avatar and switch sides as more and more data are trickling in which will prove most ZH'rs right.

Hasta la vista Trav.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 20:33 | 2210434 Crisismode
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You are one very, very sick puppy.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 18:19 | 2210055 Quantitative Seizing
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I had not seen that video before but really enjoyed it. RP is, if nothing else, extremely consistent. Thanks for the link.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:16 | 2210236 JW n FL
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clymer

Trav is a tool. RP was a little sharper (verbally speaking) in 88:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4245169480003136735

 

You Sir are one of my favorite people!

You and this Post of Yours are one of the Main Reasons I come to Fight Club!

God Love and Bless You and Yours!

 

"DEFINITION OF THE ALTERNATIVES IS THE SUPREME INSTRUMENT OF POWER"

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4245169480003136735#

 

The 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks, which were established by the Congress as the operating arms of the nation's central banking system, are organized similarly to private corporations--possibly leading to some confusion about "ownership." For example, the Reserve Banks issue shares of stock to member banks. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm 

 

JW APPROVED!

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 20:10 | 2210382 Likstane
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No he didn't. He said 10% less FRN's.  What is physical? It sounds like you are confused. Why can't I figure this typing stuff?

 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 20:09 | 2210389 Likstane
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No he didn't.  He said FRN's.  What is physical price? It sounds as if you are confused.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 14:25 | 2208916 A Nanny Moose
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What is the price of everything else doing? Energy? Food?

It's all relative.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 14:55 | 2209048 ONO47
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So, I should thank The Bernank for lowering my cost of my silver purchase?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:11 | 2209405 DaveyJones
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I'd like him to "go to town" but he can't afford the gas

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:59 | 2209981 bobola
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Shiff is probably unelectable because his dad is sitting in prison on tax evasion charges.  He refused to pay his federal income tax.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:28 | 2208602 Missiondweller
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Agreed, and Paul should have aske Bernanke if he thought they were at all meaningful or accurately reflect the real inflation rate.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:46 | 2208674 economics1996
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No.  In a normal economy prices increase and decrease.  When productivity increases prices go down.  The CPI is a way for the Federal Reserve to justify printing and make a bogyman out of deflation, "it happened in the 30s, freak-out!  Print!"

But 90% of the time with deflation there is no depression and 50% of the time there is economic growth.  So to sum up the CPI is nothing more than a way to screw retirees and justify printing.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:48 | 2208696 economics1996
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One example of prices would be a bee hive swarm.  

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 14:16 | 2208856 Offtheradar
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Why ask honest questions when your only going to get lies for answers?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:29 | 2208608 PrintPressPimpin
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Yup we know ben...those stats are compiled independently..  and by some real smart guys at that...and btw they work really really hard to be as accurate as possible. 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:48 | 2208690 withnmeans
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I thought it was funny how Uncle Ben kept telling Mr. Ron Paul "that we will talk about it later". He was just afraid to bring up any truths about what would happen "not being able to use Fed reserve notes". If people started using other means of currency they could not get their house in order, plus the fact of taxation...... Don't barter, you maybe a terrorist!

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:18 | 2209774 graymnzrc
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He also lied about being able to use gold as money.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:44 | 2209923 engineertheeconomy
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Ron Paul should have asked Ben why there isn't a tax on his counterfeit fiat...

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:04 | 2208478 economics1996
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I wish Ron Paul was 56 and had Robert Redford good looks.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:09 | 2208503 redpill
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As long as Americans view elections the same way they view American Idol, we deserve what we'll get.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:14 | 2208542 Chuck Walla
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As long as Americans view elections the same way they view American Idol, we deserve what we'll get.

 

I weep for a once great nation and people...

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:34 | 2208625 Amish Hacker
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I say let's just count the campaign money, announce the winner, and dispense with the voting altogether. It wouldn't affect the election outcome.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:50 | 2208707 j0nx
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Why junk this when you know he's right? Voting is a waste of fucking time and effort. The results are hacked or manipulated in any way possible. Keep pulling the lever for your pick. Bah bahhh.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:20 | 2210244 whstlblwr
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Why didn't Rick Perry win? He had lots of money too.

I just want to say welcome to ZH board to all CIA spending time here today. Maybe one day in the future your funding will be cut. Then you can come to the right side.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:15 | 2209420 DaveyJones
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isn't that the exact verbage in a Super Pac?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:17 | 2209435 Moneyswirth
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Davey Jones?

Didn't you die today?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:36 | 2209521 DaveyJones
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one letter away from eternity

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:41 | 2209552 Monedas
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Campaign money = Free political speech ! It's our only defense to all the free propaganda biased media and countless advantages built into our system for the left ! The right plays with one hand handcuffed behind our backs and you want to cut the other hand off ?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:44 | 2209917 LowProfile
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Your Left vs. Right mentality indicates that in your case, they have already won.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:38 | 2210311 JW n FL
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Amish Hacker

I say let's just count the campaign money, announce the winner, and dispense with the voting altogether. It wouldn't affect the election outcome.

are you insinuating that Hope and Change are NOT! here? And Alive and Well!! Flowing thru the People in the form of confidence Votes in the President???

I will remind you Good Sir that the American People.. 60% Approve of Hope and Change!!

The President has served the Paying Citizens Well!

We are a Capitalist Country!

He with the most lobby dollars, wins!

Being the Popularity Champion! Gives the President the Right to Cash In!

Lobby Whores Rule the World!

Just because the Powers that Be have Legislated away any chance of you or your children ever having any real property or real freedom is no reason to become angry with the Prize Lobby Whore of them all!

Let this be a lesson to you!

Being polite and popular! With the right people is more important than living your life correctly in the eyes of God!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pD7RI_p1ns&feature=related <  -- the truest words ever spoken.

 


"DEFINITION OF THE ALTERNATIVES IS THE SUPREME INSTRUMENT OF POWER"

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4245169480003136735#

 

The 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks, which were established by the Congress as the operating arms of the nation's central banking system, are organized similarly to private corporations--possibly leading to some confusion about "ownership." For example, the Reserve Banks issue shares of stock to member banks. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm

 


Signed, Christian Constitutionalist

P.S. Don't forget!! “See Something? Say Something!” and here is the link for you ---- > http://www.dhs.gov/files/reportincidents/see-something-say-something.shtm

 

DHS Home Grown Christians Trying to Protect the Constitution are now Terrorists Propaganda

http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf


 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 15:13 | 2209119 whatsinaname
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I think we are still a great nation. We just need some fine tuning ?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 15:28 | 2209178 Vagabond
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This site proves that there are great patriotic Americans out there, but it seems the behemoth cannot be taken down by a determined minority.  We must wait for the system to implode, and then take over the rebuilding process.  But make damn sure your neighbors, your family, your friends, and anyone else you can convince understands why the system could not last.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:05 | 2210204 Things that go bump
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Chuck Walla (is that a picture of Comrade Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev?) why weep? Let us get our identity straight at least. As a people most of us are the descendents of the dregs of Europe, no more than 3 or 4 generations from raggedy starvelings just off the boat, or the descendents of kidnapped Africans riped from their homes or an even tinier minority of the destroyed tribes of native people, who mostly keep to themselves.  More recently, we are adding the dregs of Mexico and Latin America, Asia and the Middle East (raggedy starvelings one and all).  So let us eschew greatness and embrace our identity as the Aussies embrace their Prison Planet identity. There is nothing wrong with being the descendent of people tough enough to be survivors. Maybe some of that scabby old rat survivor toughness has come down to us in our genes. 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 20:35 | 2210436 Crisismode
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Weeping is a total waste of time.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:03 | 2210511 Milestones
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Yorr greenie does not work.         Milestones

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 15:14 | 2209121 Max Fischer
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I wish Ron Paul was 56 and had Robert Redford good looks....

Another right-winger peeking out of the closet.

Max Fischer, Civis Mundi

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 15:56 | 2209336 Flakmeister
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Rim shot....

Does he have a wide stance??

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 14:18 | 2208875 A Nanny Moose
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Did it ever occur to you that he is not asking a question, but that he is teaching?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:03 | 2208468 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I would die happy if I could pass the bong to Paul.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:10 | 2208510 Fukushima Sam
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That should be part of his public speaking training.  If you can gather your thoughts and speak coherently while high then doing it straight is easy.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:35 | 2208631 Amish Hacker
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Bill Maher could teach that class.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 14:24 | 2208909 NidStyles
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He'd have to learn how to speak and think choerently first.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 15:59 | 2209352 Flakmeister
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I'll recommend you to him for typing and spelling lessons...

Maher would rip your head off and shit down your throat if you ever went one-on-one with him...

He makes a living chewing up and spitting out ass hats like you...

Sorry, but that is just the way it is... 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:30 | 2209494 psychobilly
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BM makes a living hosting a live circle-jerk with other establishment celebrity hacks, using a medium that's geared towards the shallow and the infantile.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:35 | 2209508 Flakmeister
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Not unlike ZH...

Except last time I checked, no one gets a cheque for posting here...

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:06 | 2209587 akak
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Don't you mean, the last time you chequed?

I don't really know what a "chek-koo" is.  But next time, please keep your weird Britishisms to yourself.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:20 | 2209775 Flakmeister
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Why?  I am eternally grateful that I learned proper English, not some colonial dialect...

Do the labourers tell off coloured jokes in your neighbourhood? 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:26 | 2209807 akak
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Silly fool, the British gave up on "proper English" well over two centuries ago.

Get back to me about "proper English" when you idiots finally manage to stop saying "Chinar and Indiar are ...".

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:53 | 2209948 Flakmeister
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I'll make a note of that the next time I hear an American say "Warshington"...

Ta Ta....

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 18:04 | 2210001 akak
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Very few Americans say "Warshington" (and agreed, they sound like bumpkins doing so), but almost ALL Brits do that "Chinar and Indiar" thing.  And just what is up with that anyway?  WHY can't you just say "China and India are ..."?   Why this bizarre need to insert "r"s where they don't exist?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 18:35 | 2210105 Grinder74
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Probably the same reason they decided to insert an "f" in lieutenant.  Just a lot of "F" and "R" with not enough "UCKE"

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 18:38 | 2210120 Flakmeister
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Well a lot of Americans say "Y'all" or "Youse" or "like" (like you know, Valley speak) and Canadians say "eh?"... 

Can't really comment on the Aussies or Kiwis, but I am sure they have their idiosyncracies...

So I think you have a premeditated bug up your ass....especially since I was referring to the written form of the language and that should have been abundantly clear...

PS FWIW, I ain't a Brit...

Ciao for niao....

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:06 | 2210209 akak
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"Y'all", while maybe not considered "proper", is a perfectly logical and well-formed response to the lack of a distinctive second person plural in the English language.  In fact, I routinely use "you all" in the same context, and for precisely the same reason.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:34 | 2209859 Melville1977
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I agree. I gave up watching anything Maher does due to his "know it all" attitude and his militant atheism---specifically, rubbing everyone's nose in it. Also, his guests on his HBO show make me ill (e.g. Grover Norquist, Paul Krugman, Coronel "pothead" West). Maher needs to stick with what he does best---comedy. His ignorance about economic and political issues is amazing. He makes Stewart and Colbert look like Ivy League scholars.

The fact Maher just donated a ton of money to one of Barry O's SuperPACs must mean he loves the NDAA, the fiasco in Libya, killing American citizens anywhere without due process, expanding the wars into central Africa/Yemen/ Somalia, sending more troops to the hellhole known as Afghanistan, and drones soon to be flying over the skies of the USSA.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:24 | 2208586 Gringo Viejo
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Fuku: I love the man. But you're quite right in your criticism. Dr. Paul is not a gifted speaker. Seems as if the ZH readership is killing the messenger in your case.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:35 | 2208628 Ace Ventura
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True the good Doctor's public speaking ability is at times difficult to grasp. I believe in large part this is due to the fact Paul doesn't speak from a pre-rehearsed set of index carts or teleprompter, as many of the slick-sounding suave deliverer's of sheeple-deception(TM) do.

Check out Ron Paul's writings though. Whatever he lacks in speaking ability he more than makes up for in mad writing skills. Of course, that means boobus amerikanus will actually have to read, which these days is a monumental challenge, to be sure. Maybe there's an app for that somewhere.

 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:53 | 2208717 j0nx
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I think it's mostly because he has a very high pitched voice and looks like Mr. Magoo. Hard to take someone like that seriously if you don't know him or what he's about. Some dude off the street would see him and think who the hell is that crackpot?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:24 | 2209444 DaveyJones
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You're right, nothing can survive Dick Cheney's "smashing" good looks let alone his charisma

We very much need that honest humble geeky grandpa who remembers the other world where math and morals matter.

We have gone to hell with our CNBC/FOX/White House blowjobs  

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:03 | 2209680 Bam_Man
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Didn't you die earlier today?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 18:36 | 2210111 Grinder74
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Getting old.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:49 | 2209601 Cathartes Aura
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@ Ace Ventura - when you say

Check out Ron Paul's writings though. Whatever he lacks in speaking ability he more than makes up for in mad writing skills.

you do realise that's a hornet's nest of "controversy" - right?  in that there are writings with Paul's name attached that he refuses to take credit for, both in his newsletters and other writings. . .

much of what Paul highlights is worth paying attention to, but the whole package deal is somewhat unpalatable for many - I can and do read by the way. . .

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:35 | 2210304 RockyRacoon
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Thanks for regurgitating the MSNBC talking points.  It's old stuff done using his good name as a shield.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:25 | 2211148 Cathartes Aura
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while I'm sure you don't care, I get most of my "political news" here, through links others post, followed up. . . I also did some research after many in-thread discussions in January, as I wanted to be informed, despite never having voted, and never wanting to vote.

it was while researching that I read many older writings of Paul's, and that in some recent reprints (circa 2007, if I remember correctly) of his older books credited to his name, the words remain unchanged - this despite their "controversy" over "who wrote" them.  given that he's been running for office for years now, one would think this "shield" would be sorted by now.

this is not MY lack of clarity - nor is it MY argument on behalf of someone I want to vote for or against.  it's just public record that anyone can research, should it be important to them.

obviously, it isn't.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 11:53 | 2212740 RockyRacoon
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So you drew the same logical "conclusion" that MSNBC did.  No big leap there.  Not to be mean, I do appreciate your follow-up comment... and here comes the But Monkey: Shallow thinking yields shallow conclusions no matter the source of "facts".   My statement still stands.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 14:36 | 2213486 Cathartes Aura
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lol, yeah, "shallow thinking" is anything that challenges the accepted "facts" of those who support a candidate.

I get ya.

I'm not going to spend the time I previously did, for my own research and my own conclusions, just to link "arguments" here - I don't care enough about scoring points, nor am I interested in who votes what, as in the end, the outcome is on its way no matter how I "feel" about it.

but I will say in the majority of Paul forums I spent time reading, the majority of his "followers" here even, have very shallow awareness of Paul's long history - most love the cheering of the underdog, or that he's currying their favour with fan sites and gear, and it's the rare one who is fully aware of the Paul family beliefs.

such is the way of voting tho' - I've watched it all my life.  which is why I don't care - outcome is secured outside the process.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:33 | 2210297 Herbert Philbrick
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When you're checking out his "writings", be sure to read the anti-Semitic, racist drivel from his newsletter a few years ago.  

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:56 | 2210356 akak
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Do you mean the the ones he did NOT write, has disavowed, and were only tangentially and questionably "racist" and "anti-semitic" in the first place?  You mean the needles in haystacks that the corporate-controlled media has been beating Ron Paul to death with in the attempt to deflect attention away from his consistent, decades-long pro-liberty message?  THOSE writings?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:09 | 2210531 Herbert Philbrick
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If he's so stupid as to let that crap go out in something with his name on it, then he's a bigger loser than I thought he was.  Have you actually read any of that vile crap, or did you just believe what you read on some Paul-friendly site?

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:38 | 2211217 akak
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And have you read ANY sliver of the voluminous mountain of his pro-freedom articles, essays, books and speeches from the last 40+ years?  Why are you so determined to harp on several words, written by SOMEBODY ELSE decades ago, and not the millions of consistently pro-liberty words of the man himself? 

Because that microscopically thin reed is the only thing that dishonest, disingenuous, malicious bastards like you can hang on to in the feeble attempt to discredit this good man.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 14:21 | 2208894 BLOTTO
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Dr. RP likes reading Ayn Rand...maybe that will help with his speeches?

Dr. Paul has said he is a great admirer of Ayn Rand. So has Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), whose attempt to destroy Medicare might cost Republicans 30 House seats. So has former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan, whose monetary policies, not unrelated to his admiration for Ayn Rand, did as much as anyone to cause the financial crash.

Ayn Rand, like Karl Marx, was a strong disbeliever in the values of organized religion, and Jesus Christ in particular. Ayn Rand, a fierce and aggressive critic of President Kennedy, was a strong disbeliever in the concept of patriotism that involves sacrifice for others.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/economy-a-budget/160169-ron-pauls-godless-goddess-of-greed-ayn-rand

BTW,

Ayn Rand is a known satanist - Atlas Shrugged.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 15:43 | 2209234 Ms. Erable
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 Ayn Rand is a known decedent, therefore registerd to vote as a Republicrat.

Fixed it for you.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:01 | 2209363 Flakmeister
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Lemme guess,  Chicago *and* Ohio?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:13 | 2209414 Ms. Erable
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My guess would be she gets to vote five times in Chicago, four in Detroit, six in NYC, three in DC, and twenty-two times, split between Los Angeles and San Diego, under the variant spelling of 'Anna Randivio'.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:16 | 2209430 BeetleBailey
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....and I'm a great believer in myself. Fuck all those other guys. Especially Marx. The exception being Jesus.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:40 | 2211227 fnord88
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Fuck Jesus

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 01:41 | 2211387 DaveyJones
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Peace, as long as you know, his mom's off limits

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:56 | 2209971 Uncle Remus
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Well, look where "Doing God's work" has gotten this country.

You guys and your fucking litmus tests.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:27 | 2208600 AgShaman
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Oh I get it....you want more of the same....actors paid by the corporations to be great orators soze they can be real good at lying to the people

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 15:05 | 2209101 Fukushima Sam
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I'm just reflecting on the reality of the situation.

I've made a few contributions to RP's campaign and would vote for him if given the chance.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:26 | 2209479 AgShaman
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Very well.

You've purchased the right to critique the "delivery" of his message. I'm sorry I down flagged you.

I have yet to make a campaign donation....and will only do so when RP accepts the "Absolute Agenda"

I appreciate his message....it's missing only one small component IMO

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:48 | 2208694 Seer
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So, if it's a requirement to be a stellar orator then how the fuck did GW Bush get elected- TWICE!

No, RP is decent, not great, but decent.  Certainly MUCH better than Bush II. (and I don't think that Bush I was all that great either)

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:07 | 2209705 Uchtdorf
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Ever heard of Rand Paul?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:07 | 2210214 Umh
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He's never been the best speaker. I do believe that listening to him is like listening to Biden; you get the truth, but it's not real elagant.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 19:21 | 2210255 Dry Drunk
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@Fukushima Sam. That's how real people communicate. If you want a bimbo reading a script vote for the selected candidates. I didn't see any masturbation stains on Paul unlike you rabid peverted marijuana users, constantly masturbating like a monkey in a spaceship.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 01:03 | 2210456 Al Gorerhythm
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Ron Paul could deliver these bastards a huge kick to the nuts. Next time that there is a convergance of the stars like this,

A) Financial Services Hearing with the Bernanke signal.

B) Ist day notice in Precious Metals at the Comex with the bankers selling big and withdrawing bids off the board.

Knowing that the banks and hedgers have an agenda to smash the PMs, so as to make the $ look good, Rp should pre-empt their well worn strategy. When he questions El Douche` he could ask if there will be a Precious Metals smash at the time of his testomony. He could even produce many instances of "coincidences" of the same market turns when ever he appeared at these hearings previously. There are other remarkable coincidencies when the Open Market Operation hearings are anticipated.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:43 | 2210612 John_Coltrane
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New liberatarian, articulate blood = Gary Johnson (self made millionair liberatrian ex-gov of NM)  Consistently favors freedom over central control in every sphere.

Loved the part in the video where he pulled out a silver $ and compared how much it could buy in gas from 2006 to 2011.  Should have been more consise and left the Bernake twist in the wind on this one.  That said, I absolutely love RPs positions and understanding of monetary systems (his book is actually quoted by Griffin in the "Creature from Jekll Island).  Unfortunately, he's a bit long winded in his questions which helps fraudsters like the Bernake.

 

 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:42 | 2209910 Papasmurf
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This exchange between Bukkakke and Ron Paul motivated my wife to register to vote today.  She has never voted before.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 18:16 | 2210047 Fíréan
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According to this article posted over at nakedcapitalism Ron Paul is right behind Romney . . .

 

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/02/mark-ames-why-is-ron-paul%E2%80%9...

 

( i thought that i had already posted this link but don't see it come up .)

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 18:54 | 2210170 NeoRandian
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Oh, I don't think anyone voted. At least, not the way they meant to.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 12:52 | 2208406 curbyourrisk
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Barnie Frank gave Ben Bernakne the best blow job of his life...  It's amazing he was able to get the words out of his mouth, with it so full.

 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:09 | 2208511 Dumpster Fire
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"Full" might be stretching it a bit in either's case.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:16 | 2208548 Chuck Walla
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No, I think Bawney quite commodius when it comes to fluffing his heroes.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:02 | 2209673 Papasmurf
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It could be his last, so it should be memorable.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 17:44 | 2209914 Papasmurf
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It's okay.....  Ben was "spent" prior to this anyway.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 12:54 | 2208422 MaggieL
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And Bawney says the biggest hazard to the economy is in Europe. I would have thought it was in the White House.  

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 13:04 | 2208479 carbonmutant
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LOLZ...

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 16:59 | 2209663 Papasmurf
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It sounded like he was licking the microphone.  (sorry for the graphic description)

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:29 | 2210552 G-R-U-N-T
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'I guess you have to go through the pain of that guy to get to hear the real truth.'

He has a desire to make others go through the same pain he has, because liberals, like Fwank, live in the auspices of their own perverted intellect.  They live in an alternate reality, where they believe everyone else is beneath them.  They will make the little people continue to pay, and pay dearly, as they continue to criminalize every last bit of the American peoples lives.

 

 


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