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Ron Paul Defeats Obama In Head To Head Polling

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Here's a chart you won't see anywhere in the mainstream media - not the right, and certainly not the left. According to Rasmussen's 2012 Presidential Election Matchups, which pit Obama against any of the four GOP presidential candidates, while the balance of challengers certainly appear to have no chance of defeating the incumbent (something we touched upon yesterday), today, for the first time, Ron Paul has managed to unseat the standing president, by a thin margin of 43 to 41, for the first time in this series.

Source: Rasmussen Reports (premium subscription required)

On the survey methodology: "Surveys covering three days are of 1,500 Likely Voters and Surveys of Two Days are of 1,000 Likely Voters. All Surveys Have a Margin of Error of +/- 3% ."

Some more from today's Rasmussen blog:

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 25% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -15 (see trends).


Just 19% favor increased U.S. involvement in Syria.  The Obama administration receives mixed reviews for handling that situation to date.


On the energy front, 58% believe that free market competition is the best way to get gas prices down. Just 27% think government regulations are a better approach. However, 67% believe that oil companies are using bad news to gouge customers.


In a possible 2012 matchup, Mitt Romney earns 45% of the vote, while the president attracts 44%. If Rick Santorum is the Republican nominee, the president leads by three, 46% to 43%. Matchup results are updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern

What is oddly missing is that Ron Paul earns 43% of the vote, to Obama's 41%.

So on one hand Ron Paul defeats the president head to head, and on the other, the GOP itself tells us he is a distant third to two frontrunners who frankly make one question the sanity of every American voter?


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Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:11 | 2210755 zebra
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bro, i hope you are right!

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:14 | 2210771 A Lunatic
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It was my understanding that Ron Paul himself said that he would NOT run third party. Why would he want to end up sloppy thirds again? Correct, he would not.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:19 | 2210785 UP Forester
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Post a clip.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:54 | 2210891 SuperVillain
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Dr. Paul always says he dosen't believe in absolutes and neither of those articles quote Dr. Paul as saying he's not running third party. He has yet to say he's ruled out a third party run.


Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:15 | 2210959 A Lunatic
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Yeah okay. I guess when Ron Paul says he's not considering a third party run you pretty much have to expect that he's full of shit? Good grief man, get a grip on reality. I think as adults we can all admit that he will (sadly) not be getting the Republican nomination. I also think Ron Paul has enough dignity and self respect to avoid whoring after the Presidency from a negligible third party position.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:21 | 2210981 SuperVillain
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why would he say he's considering a third party run when he's trying for the GOP nomination? Wouldn't that be like saying sure I'll be over for dinner and bring myself a big mac combo. Again, nowhere in the articles you've provided, or any I've read, does it say he's ruled out a third party run. He was grilled on this extensively because he wouldn't rule out a third party run. When he says he has "no plans" to run third party that's because he's running for the republican nomination. When he says he doesn't like absolutes that's leaving the door open to a third party run. Whether or not he will I don't know but I know he hasn't ruled it out.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:37 | 2211010 A Lunatic
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"I have no intention of doing that. No plans, and no desire. Flat out, I don't want to." -Ron Paul-


This is what the man says every time he is pressured for an it out for yourself. Is Ron Paul just another seedy, lying, D.C. scumbag............? Or does he mean what he says? I believe it's the latter, and that is what I base my statements on. Time will tell, and to be honest he is unelectable any way you want to parse it. The MSM propaganda headlines are misleading.........imagine.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:47 | 2211245 Learn more and ...
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In a political context "I have no intention of doing that. No plans, and no desire. Flat out, I don't want to." doesn't translate as I definately will not.

I believe all the above means is that he guenuinely wants to win the GOP candidacy, and if he were to appear to leave the door open this would geperdize that ambition.

So if he fails in that ambition and runs as a third party that doesn't make him, "just another seedy, lying, D.C. scumbag"  

I'm afraid you are right about the fact that no matter what happens he won't be allowed to win the presidency, something very serious would have to happen to dislodge TPTB before that could happen.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:15 | 2210961 UP Forester
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I have no plan to leave my job.

That doesn't mean I won't if conditions change.

Semantics, yes, and I rule out eating my dogs as of this moment.


Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:17 | 2210968 knukles
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Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:49 | 2211073 Questan1913
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A Lunatic,

The direct quotes are

"no plan" and  "not considering"

The media was trying to trap him into a response that would destroy his candidacy as a Republican.  The good doctor very deftly evaded giving an unequivocal answer.  Notice the present tense of the responses?  Those statements are of that moment and far from binding at any future time in which circumstances might be changed.  He has definitely not foreclosed the possibility of an independent candidacy.  And he is by far the best candidate in the field.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:56 | 2211097 A Lunatic
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For Fucks sake...........I hope he rides in on a purple fucking unicorn, sword in hand as a full blooded Independent and sweeps the field clean. It is not going to happen. If he does not get the Republican nomination he will gracefully bow out and pass the torch. Plan on four more years of Obama. Oh and don't forget to vote.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:56 | 2211263 Provocateur
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I don't consider RP's responses unequivocal at all. Weasely? Perhaps, but you don't show your hand in poker or your strategy in chess.

But there are other, far more important considerations here...can RP win in a 3-way race? (not likely). For that matter, could Romney or any other R? (highly unlikely). Could Obama? (quite likely). And are the Rs considering this, or are they so arrogant as to think they could squash RP in a 3-way? (very likely - that they are that arrogant, that is).

Frankly, I don't give a damn. Who's in the WH is not the end all be all, and neither party has my respect.

But if I was a top R, I would prvately want O to win...why? There's no better fundraiser than a common enemy, and you can blame the country's problems on him, rather than take the heat.

I'd make a decent show of the POTUS race, while focusing on taking the senate and keeping the house. If RP was a spoiler, all the better. I'd trash him for "making us lose", and circle the wagons for 2016.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 01:15 | 2211331 shuckster
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Ron Paul is not Ross Perot and the 1992 election is nothing like this one. There was no 9/11 back then. No Housing Crisis. The deficit was neglible. No Iraq, Afghanistan and no EU. And if the Republicans think Ron Paul will be a Ross Perot this time around, well then they're going to prove themselves wrong like they have the last 100 times they made a projection outside of from how far they could shoot a wad at their wives face

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:56 | 2211088 Rynak
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The R's will never let him win. The D's will never let him win. Yet, shallowly, R's seem more close to him. AND: R's and D's are where you get a publicity boost.

Theoretical optimal approach: First claim to run for R's get publicity, then at the right moment bail out and run as independent (even if you do not get the presidency, if you get a large voter share, it will still influence the rest, and lay the stepping stones for your future (yeah, issue, age... i'm ignoring it for now to keep things simple).

But that is pure logics..... that it makes sense and seems efficient, does not mean that someone... i.e. RP, will follow it.

No disrespect, BB.... i like you.... just being full-frontal honest, which i think you deserve for doing the same.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:21 | 2211164 NeoRandian
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If Ron Paul is smart, he'll pick his son as his running mate. Then the global elitists will have two assassinations to handle.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 04:34 | 2211637 grekko
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Jesse is okay, but I prefer the Judge (Napolitano).  But in reality, the others will steal all the votes anyway.  Maybe its time for a good old fashioned necktie party in DC.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:01 | 2210727 Thomas Jefferson
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He will.  He already knows he wont get the Republican nomination.  He is laying pipe down for the inevitable revolution.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:44 | 2210623 Cdad
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Woot!  And good timing, as E-verify has flagged President Zero's Social Security Number...ummmm...and it seems like there is going to be a bit of a show tomorrow afternoon on the matter:

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:46 | 2210636 zebra
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but i think the head of USCIS is packing up and ready to 'resign'..

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:12 | 2210754 Cdad
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So...let me see if I got this think the issue of Presdent Zero's eligibility is no larger than a bureaucratic paperwork issue?

Follow up the Water there a lower rank than private?  If so, that would have to be you...and I'd like to know what your rank is.  Thanks.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:24 | 2210806 macholatte
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smoke this

The topic of discussion will be an investigation by Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse into concerns about Obama’s eligibility. It’s the first time an official law enforcement report has addressed many of the allegations about the presumptive 2012 Democratic nominee for president.

The issues include Obama’s eligibility under the U.S. Constitution’s requirements, questions about his use of a Connecticut Social Security number and the image of his purported birth certificate from Hawaii.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:36 | 2210837 Cdad
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Well...that is what Cdad be sayin.  This is the first time that an actual member of law enforcement has admitted to moving forward with an investigation.  I'm not sayin' they cart President Zero out of town tomorrow afternoon, but what I am sayin' is that the MSM cannot ignore what is happening here.

But oh....ooooohhhhhhh....let the apathetic short bus, lower than private Water Army members post away their typical shit.  Let it roll on and on...until the user names need to be discarded.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:13 | 2210955 palmereldritch
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If there is any real substance to that then the message was probably delivered by GHWB (Bush 41) and JEB (Bush 45) when they met with Obama (Bush 44) in January of this year.

Expect a brokered convention and if JEB emerges as the the GOP nom expect Obamao to take a monumental   d  i  v  e 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:34 | 2211022 lakecity55
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Yeah, they're not hiring the kind of pros like they used to at Langley.

Abu Hussein is really Nako Nacho from Indonesia.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:48 | 2210634 holdbuysell
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What's the lowest percentage of the voters to ever elect a president?

Makes me think the following result may not be too far off, and could we see history as a result?

% of Voters won by:

Obama: 39%

Romney: 37%

Paul: 24%

edit: to clarify, would this be the first time the red and blue split as usual, with the winner not getting out of the 30% range, and an independent garners a substantial voting share?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:56 | 2210688 JPM Hater001
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Clinton won twice with a happens.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:28 | 2211189 NoClueSneaker
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Old camels ... That was during the time of the presidency of B.J. Lewinski ...

The most of the blowjobs served to the enterpreneurs from China.

Q: Did Hillary serviced some special requests ?


Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:59 | 2210708 Withdrawn Sanction
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The result you describe is eerily similar to the 1912 election (hmmm, funny year, no?). Certain "people" encouraged Teddy Roosevelt to mount a 3rd party run on the Bull Moose ticket, ultimately splitting the vote between himself and the Republican candidate, Taft.

Certain "people" also persuaded the Democratic candidate, Wilson, to sign central banking legislation, should such legislation ever cross his desk as president. He agreed. Of course, the legislation crossed in December 1913 and Wilson kept his word to these "people" and thereby double-crossed THE people.

BTW, the results were 41% for Wilson, 27% for TR, and 23% for Taft.  

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:13 | 2210758 FMR Bankster
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And along with the Fed Wilson got us started on sticking our nose in other peoples wars. We made it 130 years with the Europeons kicking each others butt's on a regular basis without any help from us but thanks to Wilson it's "have a war, call the US". Clearly one of the five worst presidents of all time and that's a tough list to make.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:12 | 2210759 Sam Clemons
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Hitler won with 33%.  

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:47 | 2211067 Yen Cross
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That is because Hitler assassinated the other 66% through attrition. Previous COUX-p la De Grax.

  I'm pleased to see you are studying History. Keep up the good work.


Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:32 | 2211198 NoClueSneaker
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Yeah, Garbage Motors, Pratt & Withney, Ford , Monsanto, CocaGulag, DuPoint made an superpac then, and made it possible :-P

SocialFascist of Germany r still in the power.


Who's yer daddie ?


Thu, 03/01/2012 - 01:21 | 2211351 shuckster
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Obama got 50,000,000 votes - that's 16.6% of the population that voted for him

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:46 | 2210635 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Paul would woop his ass in the ring, too.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:58 | 2210712 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Mr Lennon Hendrix said:

Paul would woop his ass in the ring, too.

You're damn straight he would:

(with Ron Paul as Phonics Monkey and Barack Obama as Kenny McCormick)


Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:46 | 2210638 thatthingcanfly
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RP's grilling of the bernank today demonstrates he's the only truly "presidential" candidate in the running for the Republican nom. Honestly, can anyone imagine Santorum or Romney being able to talk intelligently about these problems in a setting such as that?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:53 | 2210666 zebra
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of course one can imagine what it would be like with Santorun or Romney--it would be the same as US people have experienced since G Bush was in the office... Wall Street pick the candidates for both parties, and the US people do the rest.



Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:47 | 2210643 nmewn
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Any of my pit bulls could beat Obama...and they are much more articulate and they never lie to me.

Ummm, errr, woof.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:48 | 2210645 lolmao500
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Bernanke warns lawmakers nation headed for 'massive fiscal cliff'

In remarks that hit Wall Street stock prices, the central bank boss suggested the economy could hit a serious roadblock if Congress allows the Bush tax rates and a payroll tax cut to expire and $1.2 trillion in spending cuts to be implemented simultaneously in January.


Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:49 | 2210652 lolmao500
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Win :

"If I wanted the government in my womb," the sign said in painted blue letters, "I'd FUCK a Senator."

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 02:03 | 2211439 Cathartes Aura
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whoa!  at this moment your post / link has 7 upvotes, no downvotes. . . from the article linked:

The "Personhood Act," introduced by Sen. Brian Crain (R), would give legal personhood rights to embryos from the moment of fertilization. A similar measure was rejected in Mississippi, one of the most conservative states in the country, because legal and medical experts raised concerns that the bill could ban some forms of birth control, in vitro fertilization and stem cell research.

Although Oklahoma Republicans have passed numerous abortion restrictions over the past few years, the culture wars over women's health and birth control that are currently happening nationally have reignited the women's rights movement on the state level, bringing unprecedented amounts of attention to what are now routine challenges to women's reproductive health.

I'm wondering how you "upvoters" see a substantial difference between this and the Sanctity of Life Act that Ron Paul puts forward every 2 years, most recently 2011?

The Sanctity of Life Act would have defined human life and legal personhood (specifically, natural personhood) as beginning at conception,[7] [8] "without regard to race, sex, age, health, defect, or condition of dependency."

my opinions on this are well known - but I must ask again - what's the difference?  the one that lets you agree with the article's stance, and also support Ron Paul?

"The Republicans have awakened a sleeping giant," McIntyre said. "When you get women stirred up, particularly the young women who are used to being able to make decisions about their own bodies, you are going to be challenged and challenged hard."

one would certainly HOPE so. . .

(thanks for the link lolmao500, it's a gem.)

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:51 | 2210649 Cursive
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So this is why Rombot must be nominated...rambling about Michigan's trees notwithstanding.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:01 | 2210729 UP Forester
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The only tree Mittens could identify is the Money Tree shoved up his ass....

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:50 | 2210655 JohnnyBriefcase
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I would love more than anything for voting to actually matter and change anything.


I'm pretty certain it would be banned if that happened unfortunately.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:52 | 2210662 bigwavedave
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Can we see how Nelson Mandela stacks up. Just as likely for him to be the GOP nominee

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:53 | 2210665 YesWeKahn
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Unfortunately all the selfish republican candidates will not let Ron to go head to head with Ob.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:57 | 2210709 rsnoble
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I fucking hate our politicians. I wish them fucking death every night when I go to bed.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:02 | 2210732 TheFourthStooge-ing
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rsnoble said:

I fucking hate our politicians. I wish them fucking death every night when I go to bed.

Why are you going so easy on them?  ;)


Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:06 | 2210911 palmereldritch
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This is what happens when you learn the Golden Rule from the wrong people...

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:01 | 2210915 palmereldritch
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You're in a tough situation given that scenario because God is NOT going to answer your prayers and Lucifer has a conflict of interest until he has had his minions resolve things accordingly.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:57 | 2210711 Crumbles
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You mean the part of the show where Farah and the Sheriff are handed an invitation to Guantamano ???

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 21:59 | 2210719 Thomas Jefferson
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Hey Bernanke!  Do you do your own grocery shopping?  Heres a 1 oz silver eagle.



Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:52 | 2210881 palmereldritch
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Did they take silver down as RP confronted the vampire?...Was it their 'in-your-face-mafiosos *fuck you!* response' to his confrontation?  The timing was too coincidental to NOT send a message IM(skeptical)O....

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 01:07 | 2211297 fuu
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The Bloomberg clock on this clip shows Ron asking his shopping question at 10:47 ET.

Here's a rough image of the timing.


Thu, 03/01/2012 - 08:35 | 2211823 palmereldritch
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Great visual overlay of the timing.  Algos with attitude?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:00 | 2210721 BLOTTO
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Name one leader right now in the world that qualifies as a decent leader?


= We are FUCKED. Just a fuckin sick joke.

Whennn, when will we -together- go crawl up the stream and destroy the fuckin dam?... as the whole creek is polluted down stream.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:35 | 2210832 Moneyswirth
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You would be correct, sir....

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 02:09 | 2211457 Cathartes Aura
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ahhh BLOTTO, let those who seek and need leaders go about their business, as they will, whether you care or not.

and those who don't need or seek to be led, we can adapt accordingly, as we already do.

no ONE is going to change this trajectory, it's beyond "fixing" now - there is only the recognition of this fact left, then the resulting actions that follow. . .

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:09 | 2210745 EndTheMedia
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Police state meets the nanny state.

Yes that's right the PARENTS of children who have been absent or even tardy beyond public school limits can face jail time, sometimes up to six months.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:16 | 2210776 lolmao500
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And of course then the pedophiles at CPS take your kids.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:29 | 2211004 gwar5
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Yes, and it's also meant to demonstrate and indoctrinate the next generation of our children to accept the state as the all powrful authority. 

What these kids will learn from school is that even their parents are powerless to the state. Their obedience to the state will then become part of their own DNA when they grow up.  It's all planned and it's sick. The plan is to steal a generation of kids. 

?Agenda 21 For Dummies?‏ - YouTube


Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:13 | 2210760 monopoly
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I got one! THOMAS JEFFERSON! Oh never mind, he is not available. Sorry.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:13 | 2210761 monopoly
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I got one! THOMAS JEFFERSON! Oh never mind, he is not available. Sorry.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:13 | 2210762 docinthehouse
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Off topic.......but.......

When does Greek PSI offer get approved or failed?

The election is in November.



Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:14 | 2210768 eddiebe
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Too bad Ron won't be programmed into Diebolds chips.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:35 | 2211203 NoClueSneaker
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To bad that the fraudsters r not programmed in the friend/foe recognition suite of software in the AR-15s ....


Some holes may occure :-P

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:15 | 2210772 Yen Cross
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 If Ron Paul wasn't so stark honest, he would be on the winning team. The guy has a conscience, and it's killing his campaign.

  Just get elected, then go " APE SHIT" for 4 years, Ron Paul.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:17 | 2210780 uranian
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it's taken me years to trust RP enough to believe that he is what he appears to be, a man who sincerely desires to return america to its founding documents, greatest political idea we've yet had, and i say that as a non-american. it had concerned me to see him doing the devil's hand; then i discovered he's doing american sign langauge for "i love you", and has a deaf granddaughter. a gentleman and a scholar and a silver-bearing, skull'n'bones-vapourising warrior, at that!

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:23 | 2210798 The Gooch
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Win or lose, The fine Dr. is inspiring people and MOTIVATING people to take back what is rightfully ours. The Paul supporters are obviously the most passionate and outspoken.

The message is creeping into the collective conciousness and I'm willing to bet a lot more people are hip to the fed's pyramid scheme than were a short time ago.

These are the same people you would want as neighbors when the shtf, I guarantee you. I also guarantee you that the SHTF "soonly". 

"My wife drives a couple of Cadillacs, bitchez".


Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:24 | 2210802 Moneyswirth
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Obamao will get re-elected because most Americans are too ignorant to realize they are the Roman Empire in decline.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:39 | 2211218 NoClueSneaker
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In that moment it will be irrelevant whom TPTB worship.

Ppl which r broke will get friggin' democratic and plow everybodie down ... :-P

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 01:00 | 2211284 The Heart
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"Obamao will get re-elected because most Americans are too ignorant to realize they are the Roman Empire in decline."

Well Put!

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 01:57 | 2211428 The Gooch
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Not Roman. It's Bro-man. As in South Side. Smells like Fascism. Tastes like Chicago. 

Ketchup is a sin on that KOSHER dog, yo. 

RAHMEN noodles and freedom fries.

It's a new combo meal called the U.S.S. Liberty basket.  $9.11 

Comes with a commemorative sippy-cup! 

This lovely embrace is printed on it!

Also... HR 347 just in time for the G-N8TO summits in Chicago... 

Yep, they killed the 1st Amendment.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:27 | 2210815 baldski
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Since when does Rasmussen have any credence with thinking people? Tyler, they are the right wingnut poling arm of Faux News! What a load of crap!

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:35 | 2210829 q99x2
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"the sanity of every American voter?"


The validity of the voting aparatus.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:35 | 2210830 palmereldritch
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Apparently, that graph has not been adjusted by the standard GOP Romney/Paul vote flipping fraud algo.  Somebody run that data through SC!

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:35 | 2210831 X86BSD
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Does not matter. RP has lost. We have lost. We have lost our currency. Our republic. Our way of life. Our Government. Everything. The people in this country are too god damn fucking stupid to fix anything. How can they when they dont even understand how the fuck shit works. What money is. What is a fiat currency vs a commodity backed currency. What the fuck the Constitution even SAYS. Nor do they know what their RIGHTS are. And it helps matters not that the SC and other judges believe the Constitution is a living fucking document that is open to interpretation. It is not a hard document to read. And its verbage is pretty damn clear. One only interprets is if you don't like what it says. I am so infuriated at what has happened to the United States, the great experiment for the perfect masonic republic. And before one of you fucktard conspiracy dipshits even says one word about masons worshiping baal or eating babies, SHUT THE FUCK UP and get out of your moms basement! Masons do a lot of civic good in their communities. And the appendent bodies do much good for humanity as well. The shriners run the childrens burn hospital. The York rite runs an eye clinic. And blue lodge masons do more for their communities than most of you mason hating jizz stains. The train has derailed. I just want the reset button to get pushed. I simply want to begin work on the rebuilding. JUST HIT THE FUCKING RESET ALREADY!!!!


Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:41 | 2210849 Moneyswirth
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So you're saying you don't eat babies?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:07 | 2210935 frostfan
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Yah and when did you stop beating your wife?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:41 | 2210851 puck
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How can he have lost yet. If everyone one that said what you said voteted for him there would be a landslide.

Instead hradworking zelious people are donating time effort and money to support him. What are you willing do do?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:08 | 2210938 X86BSD
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Ive donated, Ive voted, ive phone banked. The people wont vote to save their lives even though they are under 70 feet of water and drowning. Ive supported paul for over a decade. I do everything I can. But when you look at reality and the fucking jackals the electorate KEEPS voting for its going to take more than a messenger to get them to get some brains. Its going to take them losing their homes, blood in the streets, no jobs, and starvation to get them off their american idol asses to fix this mess. Otherwise they will continue to vote for jackals that keep whispering softly spoken magic spells to them.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:38 | 2211035 The Gooch
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Why not lead the charge, Pope Geronimo? 

My Atari 2600 has a reset button.

I hit it every time those damn space invaders put on their cloaks and s†art speaking in tongues.

Nothing changes.

Those cloaks wreak of Downey in the Vatican Laundromat.


Also...  <sarc> on.

Don't take it personal like.

Laughing in one's mom's basement is still allowed.


Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:43 | 2211049 The Gooch
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Thu, 03/01/2012 - 03:27 | 2211563 Yen Cross
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Fleetwood Mack!

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 16:35 | 2214222 The Gooch
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Fleecewood Mack!

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:39 | 2210842 blindman
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the bankers spare no expense when they put on a
political farce and every player plays the fool,
the money just keeps flowing to the right people.
gil scott-heron called it holly-weird.
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
Aaron Neville - Everybody plays the fool (1991)

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:42 | 2210853 Count Manzeppi
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I truly respect Ron Paul. I've even donated hard won cash to his campaign in the past. It pains me to admit that I don't really want to see him elected though. He would be blamed. "Oh look how things have fallen apart since him and his (crazy|isolationist|antiquated) views came into power!" Nevermind that a nose-dive can't be pulled out of in an instant. Fuck this world.


Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:11 | 2210949 X86BSD
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Its too late to fix anything. The trains come off the tracks. Its just a matter of time. I think the Replicants know this. And they want Obama to win re-election. So it can all come burning down around him. The problem with that is when it all comes burning down around him there wont BE any government left. So they lose just like everyone else.


Thu, 03/01/2012 - 01:09 | 2211314 The Heart
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Well, we are isolating Iran right now and it is not working either.



Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:44 | 2210859 Mercury
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Rasmussen polls tend to be much more accurate about these things because they only poll likely voters not simply people who answer the telephone.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:44 | 2210864 streetcrawler
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Ron Paul is a creationist. He has many other horrible ideas, but that has to be the dumbest. Do you really want someone so far outside of reality in office? This is why I don't vote.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:51 | 2210880 Yen Cross
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 That isn't the point silly. The guy has Morals! whether they be right or wrong. He sticks to them!

   How can something(v), be the dumbest without a (adj.) to describe it? You are one class short of a ( Dip Loma).

 I do not agree with everything R/P says. Ex; Iran, but the other 98% adds up.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:58 | 2210902 David Wooten
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Ron Paul is not a creationist although he he has listened and talked to those who are.  And he certainly would not, as President, start a campaign to turn people into creationism.  I certainly haven't heard him talk about it in debates or in speeches to large audiences.  Many other Judao-Christian ideas, besides creationism, are also quite nutty yet few politicians are willing to denounce them.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 11:12 | 2212525 The Gooch
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Maybe, but HE ISN'T CRAMMING HIS (religious) BELIEFS DOWN YOUR THROAT!!! And do we even know what O's are? 


Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:53 | 2210883 lolmao500
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Bipartisanship at it's finest...

Senators Offer License To Strike Iran Nuclear Program
Wed, 02/29/2012 - 22:58 | 2210900 onlooker
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I am pleased to see Rasmussen presented at ZH validating him as a valid poll organization and non-spun data.


Paul is the logical choice if we are to start the attempt to save this Nation of ours.


Vote, Vote, VOte, VOTe, VOTE------ Your Nation Needs YOU NOW

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:04 | 2210919 Yen Cross
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 And high gas prices, are like copper tubing. Good thing the Keystone { LOWER}, Cushing -Gulf hub is being built for sure.


Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:06 | 2210934 VyseLegendaire
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Lol, because voting matters.  

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:11 | 2210943 gwar5
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OT.   Think I missed something today.....

Jim Sinclair:    Says $714 Billion of QE was pumped into the ECB today, one of the largest QE dumps ever, anywhere. And that Bernanke's rhetorical bias against QE was an orchestrated coverup to distract from what was really going on at the ECB while he was blabbing. The money came from the IMF and FED to the ECB and then to member banks.

Anybody else know that was going on?  Gold was down nearly $100 on Bernanke's words, which is what shocked Sinclair. He says it was clearly all orchestrated to coverup the $714 Billion QE dump being done, just as the whole media was focused on Bernanke posing a bias against QE.


If so, the banks are belly laughing. They got a huge QE injection and didn't have to pay a price (yet). And, they actually got a correction in gold and paused the equities  just talking bullshit.  What a cruel, cruel world..... and it means we can expect more of same next time, too.







Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:13 | 2210954 frostfan
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Basically, all the poll tells us is that a potted plant would beat Obama based on the participants.   I have no problems with Ron Paul winning the nomination if he earns it but didn't he get like less than 10% in Michigan yesterday?  Not exactly a strong case to end up as the future nominee......


Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:24 | 2211179 Savyindallas
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a lot of stupid people in Michigan.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:15 | 2210960 rsnoble
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We have a chance to make history here folks. November is a long, long ways away!!

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:15 | 2210963 Heroic Couplet
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Rasmussen? he's been slammed by the professionals in polling. Sorta like an MD, like Paul, being slammed by the AMA, except when Rasmussen makes a gigantic mistake, no one dies.

Ron Paul ran on the premise he would 'grill' Bernanke in front of Congress. Ok, where's the beef?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:17 | 2210969 cherry picker
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Ron Paul would have a better shot as an Independant as his views are not fitting in with the Republican or Democratic profile and those two parties control their members with an iron fist to the extent that their members who gain the office would rather listen to party than their constituents.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:20 | 2210978 Westcoastliberal
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This poll doesn't surprise me one bit.  Ron Paul is the only candidate who is a statesman first, politician second.  The rest "aren't worth the powder to blow them to hell" as my dear Mother used to say and it fits here. 

This is going to be an interesting Spring & Summer, kinda like 1968.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:22 | 2210986 max2205
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I knew it

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:48 | 2210992 lakecity55
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RP can win. But the crooksters in the "GOP" Management don't wanna win. They're the same as the Progressives in the communist party.

Of course, my dog could beat the current turd, but RP is for real.

Gear Up, America. We can still defeat abu Hussein and his minions.

I don't want a crescent flag flying over The Peoples' House.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:43 | 2211050 Andy Lewis
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Pulled that one right outta yer Rasmussen, didja?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:45 | 2211060 lakecity55
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No More Commie Men! Ron Paul Is Bound To Win!

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:49 | 2211078 jse111
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The Rothschilds want Bamy and thus, it is a fait accompli. Accept Grasshopper, accept!

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:04 | 2211125 Jim in MN
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They are generally tied within the margin of error in the polls, and the undecideds are large enough to swing even the largest of Obama's 'leads' so let's just could happen.  Is that amazing or what?

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:56 | 2211093 gwar5
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Tomorrow: Sheriff Arpaio is releasing results of his 6 month forensic investigation by his 6 member investigatory panel, made of professional law enforcement investigators and attorneys with law enforcement experience, into whether Obama is a natural born citizen, qualified to be president.


This includes forensic examination of his birth certificate, his Social Security number from the state of MA, Obama's failure to pass e-verify, and other matters related to his apparent lack of existence. Preliminary remarks by some panel members indicate that it should be quite interesting, possibly a game changer.

Recall, just last month a federal judge in GA looked at the evidence, or lack thereof, and ordered Obama to appear before them to provide evidence he was qualified to be on the ballot. Obama declined.

War with Iran could start any second if it's ugly for Owebama.






Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:57 | 2211099 Mark Noonan
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The real story here is that a sitting President is being held to under 50% support by a mere Congressman - what polling (other than bogus polling of "adults" done at a lot of MSM outfits) clearly indicates is a desire on the part of an electorate to correct the mistake of 2008.  My view is that Obama is doomed no matter whom the GOP nominates - the economy is in lousy shape and people feel it and further understand that all of Obama's "hope and change", "post-partisan healer" nonsense from 2008 was a lie. 

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 23:58 | 2211103 Jim in MN
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Balance the budget, lower gasoline prices

Ron Paul 2012

Corruption is MORE IMPORTANT than all of these so-called 'social issues' which are luxuries no one will care about if we lose the Republic. 

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:00 | 2211106 Jim in MN
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GOP neocons and evangelicals are upstarts who should mind their manners, and their elders, and their youngers, and fall in line for Paul.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:01 | 2211109 Jim in MN
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A brokered convention in Crazytown AKA Tampa will lead to an effort by the ancien regime to push a Jeb Bush/Condi Rice 'Maximum Evil' ticket. 

You read it here first.  Don't let it happen.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:22 | 2211167 Savyindallas
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That's pretty evil. How about Bush/John Bolton? Or Bush/Paul Wolfowitz? Pure evil would be Richard perle -but of the group I just referenced, Condi is the i-only they could seriously push on the sheeple. The Bush family is pure evil. Preston helped fund the nazis- and is a big proponent of Eugenics  -It's no coincidence that Bush senior was a good friend of John Hinckley's dad, and that Bush senior was having dinner with the Bin Ladens in Washington on 911. The Bush's are pure evil. Jeb is

no different. 

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:21 | 2211165 Dre4dwolf
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You wont see this on the nightly news, thats for sure, infact they will probably say the poll doesn't count and flip it.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:22 | 2211168 Yen Cross
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The crosses are giving some love back. My fav. gbp/jpy.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:23 | 2211174 Jim in MN
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Ron Paul ad in Washington State slams all three business as usual rivals

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:26 | 2211186 Jim in MN
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Dallas Fed President says five largest banks in US should be broken up


Thu, 03/01/2012 - 00:40 | 2211225 gdogus erectus
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I'm good with whatever Diebold comes up with.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 02:38 | 2211513 honestann
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This is one of the "total bummer" facts.  Ron Paul and his liberty views have risen fast enough to put him in contention this cycle.  The way things are going, it is even remotely possible he could pull it off, given a bad enough collapse, or bad enough news of some other [international] kind.

At the rate Ron Paul and liberty popularity has climbed over the past 4 years, he would likely be able to take it all in 2016.  The question is, will Ron be willing to run at age 80, and will people elect an 80 year old.  Let's hope so, because otherwise, the rest of you better do what I did... escape the evil empire before its too late.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 03:20 | 2211556 nathan1234
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All Obummer's records are sealed.

All Ron Paul's records are open.

Anyone who wants justice in his/her life in the US should know they will never get it from Obummer.



Thu, 03/01/2012 - 03:21 | 2211557 upb
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who wants Obama back.  Paul has a better grasp on reality

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 03:34 | 2211566 dolph9
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Nothing is worth it anymore.  Ron Paul may have some good ideas, but he's aging and can't really articulate any vision for the country other than saying the obvious about the Fed.

Sorry, I'm going Galt, people.  Which means no voting for me.

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 07:09 | 2211726 Sathington Willougby
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Yep, can't be bothered, instead put a wet turd between your cheek and gum.  

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 03:57 | 2211597 Andrew G
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Now, a bit of a reality check for RP cheerleaders, or any other career politician's cheerleaders -

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 05:27 | 2211656 Cadavre
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Of course Dr. Paul can beat the Obambi Flesh Puppet. He can do it hands sown and that's the problem.

The establishment, the multi generational career members of the Federal Acting Guild Sayans (or FAGS) on the CSPAN TV, regardless of affiliation, with slimed tugs facilitations from plastic empty bunz up and kneeling lame stream media queens are so obviously desperately in plain view rigging the game. As long as it ain't  Dr. Paul, what's the difference between one skull fucked vanity queen and any other skull fucked vanity queen. Like switching the head on one Ken Doll with the head on another.

They're going to get caught doing it. You know it. They've already been nabbed fucking up real bad. Everybody knows it. When that happens the lizard gene of 300 Million born bred to bleed `em dry american assholes finally say fuck the poker face pretense decide to compose a dark opera of blood clot whore screams begging for the mercy afforded Mussolini?

Mister Street Crawler - 3 weeks and 5 days and - and thats this is best shill "Truth Army" recruits can come up with(?):

Ron Paul is a creationist.

My my my .. aren't we quite the sensitive intellectual type?

Does that mean the executive pen would be better used by  the hand of an ignorant inhuman fascist straw man sock puppet, who you can assure us is not a creationist, Than in the hand of a rule of law individual liberties war ending ponzi ending well read salt of the earth human, who you assure us is a creationist?



Dr Paul on Abortion : States right

Dr Paul on forced abortions of expectant Islamic mother by ignited prosperous rocket dispatched from under wing of drone joystick guided flown by Xe mercs contracted by the DoS and CIA: Against it

Dr Paul on Patriot Act : End it

Dr Paul on sound money: For It

Dr Paul on FED : Against it

Dr Paul on executive orders : resend them

Dr Paul on military industrial complex: Shut it down - if ya can't eat it don't buy it!

Dr Paul's personal beliefs : he does no prothlesize - and Street Crawl Guy - you the be the only one so it seem  with the inside scoop - so i guess we're all behooving believers now that you've enlightened us - from the bottom of my nut sack - thanks.

Work on your script man. Who the fuck cares? Religion is private. Like the play by play the last time you kacked off - who cares - you dig it - ok - great, but you sharing  accounts of a recent midnight confessions or daisy chain pink helmet tug parties does not advance dialog and may not be as interesting to others as it is you.

My dentist is a creationist. He's a great dentist.

Some people, like Rick :the Dick: Sanitarium imply divine connections - yeah - like god is grab assing and drinking beer with Rick "the Dick" Sanitarium as consolation for loosing his senate seat because his one and only notable distinction as a senator as being the only one of three 3 most corrupt senators, designated by CREW in 2006, that is not in jail. At least he ain't a creationist.

Or the O'bambi - one term wonder - Peace Prize Queen with blood on hands - at least he ain't a creationist.

Or, Mitt "the Twit Zombie" Romney cute but dumb pump doll for fat cats. Fearing Mitt's brain wattage ain't much more than the poor drooling Dubby's (cross bred with a nail). He sees headlights and hears foot steps. Money can both buy and sell illusions - but it cannot buy protection from the consequences of reality.

How about the orc with no light in eyes, the Newt "and Neutered Mean" Gangreenrich. Neutered, as Sanitarium  also lost his seat for corruption complaints. Fortunately , Neutered was graced with a book deal he entered with the Ruford "Muradoor Clock" Murderock (betting that wire tap scam Meurderock and Piers were running was a good `nuff argument for FAUX to shutdown "Freedom Watch") to publish 100 empty, but high quality and numbered, pages between two book covers. Neutered used the signing proceeds. from his immaculately conceived book pig `n a poke with the Murderdock, to pay back the million bucks he borrowed from Senator Doyle in order to pay his congressional corruption fine. BUT AT LEAST KILL ALL THEM INVENTED PEOPLE NEWT AIN'T a creationist!

So what.

10-4 - speak mind crwler guy

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 05:04 | 2211659 cnhedge
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Oh you're over 40 and set in your ways, tell me all about how you're voting for Mitt Romney.  Isn't that what the newspaper said to do?

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 07:29 | 2211746 Frastric
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Even if Ron Paul does get in, I really fear for his life here. I'm all for him abolishing the Federal Reserve, but as conspiracies go I imagine someone amongst the banksters wanting him dead for even considering abolishing the Federal Reserve...

But it would be really cool seeing Ron Paul slay Obama in election debates...


Thu, 03/01/2012 - 08:34 | 2211820 covert
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radical Muslims like ron paul and somehow that seems suspicious.


Thu, 03/01/2012 - 08:34 | 2211821 covert
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radical Muslims like ron paul and somehow that seems suspicious.


Thu, 03/01/2012 - 07:57 | 2211775 mendolover
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If he did get elected I'd love to be a fly on the wall to see what he tells 'them' when 'they' show him the JFK assassination video.  haha

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 12:08 | 2212818 tony bonn
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listening to the news, you would have absolutely no idea that ron paul existed let alone was running for president....when i speak of rockefeller-mic-yale-cia cabal controlling the press, it comes through loud and clear on campaign coverage.....massive air time is given to the dried out douche bag newt gingrich who has performed worse than paul.....

local atlanta news coverage especially on 750am - the local pravda (soviet style) outlet - doesn't even mention his name except in the most casual dismissive drive by shooting type of way....

the news you get is controlled and you are told for whom to vote....

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