Ron Paul: "I Don't Fully Endorse Romney For President"

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On the 'new' eve of the Republican Convention, it appears all is not well in the Romney-Ryan ranks. In what is quite a stunning admission, though not entirely surprising given his outspoken desire for a change to the status quo, the NY Times is reporting that Ron Paul does not fully endorse Romney for President. Mr. Paul, said convention planners had offered him an opportunity to speak under two conditions: that he deliver remarks vetted by the Romney campaign, and that he give a full-fledged endorsement of Mr. Romney. He declined. "It wouldn't be my speech," Mr. Paul said. "That would undo everything I’ve done in the last 30 years. I don’t fully endorse him for president." Whether this is Paul playing an admirable 'long-game' and/or standing by his libertarian roots (or angry at his apparent marginalization) is unclear but one thing is for sure; with the dominance of 'young' voters (seeking 'change'?) behind Ron Paul relative to 'old' voters with Romney, this rebuff will not help in the fight against TOTUS. As BigStory reports, Paul is telling his supporters to stand firm because "we will become the tent eventually!"

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Sun, 08/26/2012 - 18:29 | 2739261 Xibalba
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One thing is certain.  President Obamney will win in November.  

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 18:36 | 2739283 Michael
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Why not make it a landslide for Obama by casting your vote directly for Obama?

Do you realize how badly that will demoralize the republican party? Think of the great feeling of satisfaction you will get exacting your revenge on them for treating the Paul crew so badly.

No self respecting Ron Paul supporter will vote directly for Willard. This is a given everyone agrees on.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 18:51 | 2739299 Newsboy
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Bibi wants to attack Iran before the election, meaning that he thinks Obama will win, and needs to force his hand early..

Bibi DOES completely endorse Romney.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 18:59 | 2739362 bonderøven-farm ass
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Hasten the Collapse....Barry/Mittens 2012

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 19:07 | 2739383 Precious
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Create a personal future that is independent of all these factors.  That's the goal.  That's where to collaborate.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 19:31 | 2739478 HoofHearted
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Either Gary Johnson or a write-in of Ron Paul. No other choice makes any sense.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 19:57 | 2739566 lakecity55
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You have to be practical.

Mittens will increase the number of libertarian-minded people.

In 4 years, we nominate a more libertarian guy, with a mid-term election to put even more libertarians in.

You can't change it overnight; you have to build momentum.

I can vote for Mittens since if nothing else, he is an actual American person.

We go from there. Activists here are already talking about how we can get some Goldwater/Paul guys to run mid-term in 2014.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 20:09 | 2739603 redpill
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If this country had listened to Barry Goldwater (and Dwight Eisenhower for that matter) we'd be in a much better place.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 20:32 | 2739679 bigkahuna
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um, the majority are a bunch of people who cannot think critically. The two party system panders to them. It will keep going as it is until it is driven into the dirt. Prepare accordingly.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 23:36 | 2740069 Lore
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"Whether this is Paul playing an admirable 'long-game' and/or standing by his libertarian roots (or angry at his apparent marginalization) is unclear..."

Paul is unlikely to throw in 100% behind anybody. Whoring just doesn't come naturally to a Libertarian. If the price is no presidential appointment, then so be it.

"with the dominance of 'young' voters (seeking 'change'?) behind Ron Paul relative to 'old' voters with Romney..."

I think BigKahuna is right: this is not a generational phenomenon.  The gap that we see widening daily is between the Informed Moral Minority versus the Clueless Socialized Sleepers.  I've met several American expat retirees who seem very knowledgeable about current affairs and have prepared accordingly.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 02:59 | 2740086 sunaJ
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Whether it's Romney/Obama or Algos: JPM39209/GS93049 2012

Why not, since they already rule the market.  This old order is now just window dressing.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 04:48 | 2740334 AldousHuxley
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isn't is funny that when Ron Paul gains the most support and tells few truth on TV, is the year he is "retiring"?



Mon, 08/27/2012 - 05:54 | 2740382 Comay Mierda
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Ron Paul has balls of steel

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 23:46 | 2740098 FMR Bankster
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Why the hell WOULD RP "fully endorse" Romney? Just because he might be marginally better than Obama. Anybody who thought that would happen was batshit crazy. If a guy refuses to nuckle under for his whole life and he's now 77 what would make him start now? Nothing. That's why you gotta love the guy.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 02:32 | 2740218 Muppet of the U...
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If it is your intention to read this comment, please do me the favor of reading the whole comment.  I have spent some time writing it.


I have some very bad news for you muppets:  The Rabbit Hole is never ending.  It is not some great truth or endpoint.  It is the path toward building the cognitive skills necessary to see reality.

It is self-actualization and realization of maximum potential.  With it you will come to understand that television isn't just lies and propaganda... It's the final solution of Slavery Incorporated.


If you understand the gravity of such a statement, it should come as no shock to you, that those who are entrusted to repeatedly make television appearances, are working for Slavery Inc.!

I speak no blasphemies when I say, Ron Paul isn't what he says he is.  He exists to catch the ones who figure out the game ( that's you).  He's the dissident calmer and the endgame backup plan.

He doesn't get on the Television for the truth movement's benefit.  Why would he be permitted to do so in the first place!?  If he were a threat, he would be stonewalled!  THINK DAMNIT!!

If Ron Paul, Wikileaks, Jullian Assange, RT, or Anonymous were really the threats we are TOLD they are, they would have NEVER been put on Slavery Inc's, 'Television'.

 That which serves as a real threat, would undoubtedly never see the light of a TV crew 

Why would the puppet masters bring up dangerous material (which we would percieve as Ron Paul and/or Anonymous), when the Sheeple already don't know anything...?


I am NOT being corny or dramatic when I say, The real threat would be you - not the puppets trying to lead you.

It's why the U.S. government calls my home regularly to ask specific members of my family what they think of the U.S. government.

It's why the DHS bought 1.2 billion rounds of ammunition.

It's why they are so desperate to get China to start a World War.

They are AFRAID of our potential, but that is all.

I'm sure they rest easy knowing they have bred humanity into pathetic weakness.


Regretably... these words are lost in the clutter of indecision and weakness that are your minds. 

You see, there is no hope for humanity: no matter how hard your brains putput along, you'll never understand how to be completely rational and free thinking.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 03:15 | 2740273 Michael
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What about the mathematics concerning the complete and total worldwide economic collapse MU?

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 04:17 | 2740293 Muppet of the U...
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From the perspective of personal finance, it is a catastrophe we (the awake) must all, collectively or indivifually, plan for.

However, rarely is anything black or white, and therefore this event comes with specific perks. 


For thousands of years the aristocracy have looted and pillaged the sheeple for personal profit and laughs.  This should not be shocking.  However, they must always work in 200-500 year time frames, because the role they play in the world's economy, is that of a leech.  They are bottom feeders with immense wealth created through the lack of critical thinking and apathy they sow. 

As you would then assume, the aristocracy works in time frames.  They must, because eventually, the system of control they create (after every collapse), is still a system of leeching that will inevitably lead to another collapse.  Almost comically, they would appear to be unable find a sustainable system of parasitism.  Perhaps because the parasite always kills the host... 

Today, we are still in the old era of decaying capitalism.  Soon we will be in the era of fascist government intervention and purposeful destruction of the economy. Stefbot can explain this more concisely...

Then we will be in the era of the New World Order.  This coming is inevitable, because a collapse is inevitable.  & while on the surface this moment looks like 100% septic tank grade shit, it still means we do not know, for sure, what the New World will look like.


What would be dangerous to these leeches, is self-actualization.  The pursuit of completing everything you can do, now.  What would be dangerous is shaping the sheeple's reactions to the hegalian dialectic, by predicting for them, what is to come.  By correctly predicting an "Extremistan Event", you will possess more respect and heed more attention, thereby allowing you more room to shape other's reactions.  So make your predictions known, and ask the sheeple for special consideration when these events meet with reality.  & your advice, through the coming Global Depression, should be the destruction of the system of centralization, whether that be a monopoly on industry, money, control, or information. 

During this particular collapse, the sheeple are completely misinformed.  It would appear humanity is continually losing ground after every collapse.  Nevertheless, information is currently the most important goal.  Therefore, a defensive strategy is sounding the alarm in defense of internet freedom.  This is particularly effective because the younger generation (long term goal) cares more about the internet, and will begin question governmental controls.  However, an offensive, and game winning move, would be to attack misinformation distribution centers.  Quite literally, for us to win here and now, we must pull a, "They Live", and end the perversion of the 4th Estate. 

(If we make it that far, which we probably won't, centralization must be destroyed entirely, to preserve freedom).

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 04:54 | 2740341 AldousHuxley
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adam & eve had everything but they still wanted one thing they could not have due to human nature of greed.

it is both a blessing and curse as greed has made man master of all animals, yet has made man slave of greed and other man.


world orders, wars, slavery, will be here as long as society rewards greed.



Mon, 08/27/2012 - 05:12 | 2740362 Selah
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Put the Bong down for a while and learn how to construct coherent sentences before you try to express your stream of consciousness.

I agree with what you tried to write, but it was so poorly written that I wouldn't take your side even if you were saying that stuff in the parking lot of a Grateful Dead concert.

I'm assuming that you've never been to a Show and don't know how cool the parking lot was.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 06:17 | 2740373 Muppet of the U...
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It's easier to understand a chronological flow of ideas, in my opinion, b/c you can see the thought process, in all of its glory and error.

To me, there is only the stream of conciousness.  Everything else is riddled with lies and errors.  So I speak by way of colon and semicolon.  blunt short and to the point.

besides I've been up for 3 days strait.  Still worked out every day.  & spent 9 hours constructing a new trading desk and setting up my monitors.

But really?  who gives a fuck if I narrate something, or if I speak as a single strand of consciousness?

Do you grasp the idea wholly?  do you see where I draw conclusions from 1 thing to create my next point?  If yes then streaming your thoughts is more productive.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 06:22 | 2740403 Selah
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Is it my imagination and beers, or is the ZH Fight Club actually so much easier than back in the Blogspot days?

I'm not writing to you, Muppet, it's a general question to other readers; those who would know a semicolon when it jumped up their ass and ate a ham sandwich would know what I'm saying.


Mon, 08/27/2012 - 06:34 | 2740412 Muppet of the U...
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the irony of it all is the semicolon, or colon, or dash, or other literary device, is implied, like your sense of self-worth when referring to others.  Contrary to my style though, the implication falls short of reality.

When you can climb out of your dirty folding chair in that dirty deadhead parking lot, and your brain comes to after the damage of inhaling helium and nos shots all day, please do try to compete.

Until then, your inflated ego will just be that; a cancerous hinderance like an uncleaned assholed, littered with dingle berries.  Maybe one day you'll ascend to lose your ego and super ego, and thus lose the insanity that is humanity in a slave state.  But like the chances for the slaves in their fight against the illuminati, I don't see you leaving your pathetic state.  GL champ, see you in the futures.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 06:32 | 2740409 Selah
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Wow, now I feel sorry for you...

I wish that I could take back all my harsh words. I didn't understand your mental disabilities.

Be strong!

You have a special purpose in life and some day you will find it.

I wish you the best of luck Muppet!


Mon, 08/27/2012 - 07:01 | 2740413 Muppet of the U...
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Is what is common place, you, strong and successful?  WEll, hows the world doing?

Is what is a person with no ego, me, strong and successful?  Well I'll tell you I'm doing a lot better than you.

(btw my prose is perfect. I didn't even end any sentences with prep phrases. Now, how mad are you that you can't read it?

& kid, I already know my purpose.  To help people and to make money).

classy I know - jus the way you like it.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 14:27 | 2741434 Michael
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I'm not worried about how it will all turn out. There are millions of Paulbots running around everywhere all over the place and know how to fix it.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 08:36 | 2740538 Hayabusa
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Lore is right... Paul is a man of principal and whoring simply isn't part of his M.O.  The GOP... it's clear they attempted to "pimp" or bribe Paul by attaching strings to a speaking engagement and tried to put their words in his mouth - Paul doesn't let anyone put anything in his mouth.  Lore is correct... what's going on is not generational but more a product of those who are educated on the issues vs those who are ignorant slugs who perform no due dilligence of their own - Obamny simply panders to the majority, the slugs and that my friends wins elections.  Paul has opened a lot of eyes and brought a lot of slugs up to speed in many ways... the importance of what he's done and continues to do cannot be understated.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 20:33 | 2739684 RacerX
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I still like Ike

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 21:14 | 2739793 Randall Cabot
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Ike was a mass murderer.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 21:19 | 2739805 redpill
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In a world of far worse mass murderers, yes.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 21:30 | 2739832 Nothing To See Here
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There is only one way to deliver the message : write-in Ron Paul.

And burn the MSM.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 21:39 | 2739848 FEDbuster
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Not voting is becoming a viable option.  I have always felt an obligation to vote (freedom, history, blood shed, etc...), but some how voting now seems to be validating a corrupt system, with two shitty choices.   The Titanic has hit the iceberg, what difference does it make who's captain now? 

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 21:44 | 2739865 rehypothecator
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Voting Gary Johnson, or writing in Paul, is a third non-shitty choice.  Sure, whoever you vote for won't win, but if everyone who thinks as you do did it, the staggering number of votes for the non-corrupt people would send more of a message than not voting would.  

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 21:49 | 2739878 john39
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the very idea that you have the potential to control the outcome by voting is an essential part of the "matrix" of control...   voting sends the message that they still have you...  a better message is sent when we protest outside of elections, boycotting....

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 22:11 | 2739928 rehypothecator
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Your argument only works when applied to mainstream candidates.  I don't think it applies to votes for third parties, or especially, anti-establishment candidates.  The elites allow them on the ballots precisely because they are expected to not win any elections; voting for those candidates is more useful than not voting - and might, once in a blue moon, actually result in the election of someone other than a vampire squid.  

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 22:18 | 2739940 john39
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i disagree, respectfully.  the system is now hopelessy rigged, and voting in the system simply confers credibility that it does not deserve.  no real challenge to the corpratist system would ever be permitted anywhere near a ballot.  if real change is desired, the system must be first fully exposed as the fraud it is.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 23:08 | 2740038 Michael
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Remember when Uma Thurman got her revenge in that movie Kill Bill? That kind  of revenge, except without the blood.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 23:50 | 2740101 Michael
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Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 00:00 | 2740114 Michael
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We don't call ZH Fight Club for NOTHING!

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 00:25 | 2740147 Michael
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In closing;

All I got to say to those people reading ZH on Wall Street;

You better start giving Obama a lot of campaign contributions if you want to buy any king of influence in the future.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 00:49 | 2740163 Michael
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Just one more thing;

CNN is now promoting Romney!

CNN is the balance control in the equation.

FOX is an infomercial for the Republicans and MSNBC is an infomercial for the Democrats.

Their mandate is to keep the public perfectly 50/50 divided. It's that whole divide and conker strategy.

Republicans vs Democrats. Left vs Right and everything in between. Their job is to keep it a perfect 50/50 split. But what if we wreck their model?

I now see CNN's role, their there to maintain the balance.

It's as plain as the nose on your face.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 02:37 | 2740247 Ghordius
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Michael, "We don't call ZH Fight Club for NOTHING!"

ok, ok, but with your repeated replies to yourself - aren't you boxing your own face?

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 03:18 | 2740278 Michael
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It's for the muppets to read tomorrow.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 21:49 | 2739883 Michael
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RNC Shuns Ron Paul, Supporters Root For Romney Defeat

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 21:52 | 2739892 old naughty
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Move over, Issac. Here comes Paul.

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 01:02 | 2740175 redpill
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There's a Liberty Hurricane coming, bitches.  It doesn't stop for elections.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 22:04 | 2739906 The Big Ching-aso
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I'm voting for no one who's currently or has been a professional politician.

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 22:52 | 2740009 LMAOLORI
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No matter what he does someone is not happy

Jewish Democrats slam GOP over planned Ron Paul tribute

Sun, 08/26/2012 - 23:35 | 2740075 Michael
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We caught them doing this to us, the whole police state thing kicked into high gear by 9/11 for Christ's sake.

It's all documented!

Mon, 08/27/2012 - 01:39 | 2740206 Clashfan
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We're at the point at which voting in the national elections is really only for losers and tools, right? Why do it? Spend the time doing something else: reading, learning, or signing on w/NOTA.

If you have to vote, vote third, fourth, or fifth party.

But not voting sends a message, too.


Mon, 08/27/2012 - 05:56 | 2740383 Selah
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You got it wrong Boyo. (I'm a Clash fan too)

Not voting sends no message at all.

Vote for Ron Paul, Ross Perot, even Winnie the Pooh.

That sends a message!

Not voting, and thinking that there is a "message" conveyed, is like not doing brush strokes with Picasso and thinking that he should attribute you for helping with his painting.

If voting was compulsory, you would have a point.

I'm voting for Ron Paul. Again.

Will he win? That's not why I'm voting.

You've gotta use your freedom of choice! (I'm a Devo fan too)

Just think of how many votes Ron Paul would get if people would vote independently of what they thought others would vote?




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