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Ron Paul: "I Don't Fully Endorse Romney For President"
On the 'new' eve of the Republican Convention, it appears all is not well in the Romney-Ryan ranks. In what is quite a stunning admission, though not entirely surprising given his outspoken desire for a change to the status quo, the NY Times is reporting that Ron Paul does not fully endorse Romney for President. Mr. Paul, said convention planners had offered him an opportunity to speak under two conditions: that he deliver remarks vetted by the Romney campaign, and that he give a full-fledged endorsement of Mr. Romney. He declined. "It wouldn't be my speech," Mr. Paul said. "That would undo everything I’ve done in the last 30 years. I don’t fully endorse him for president." Whether this is Paul playing an admirable 'long-game' and/or standing by his libertarian roots (or angry at his apparent marginalization) is unclear but one thing is for sure; with the dominance of 'young' voters (seeking 'change'?) behind Ron Paul relative to 'old' voters with Romney, this rebuff will not help in the fight against TOTUS. As BigStory reports, Paul is telling his supporters to stand firm because "we will become the tent eventually!"
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Not voting doesn't screw them over. Some places actually don't have Diebold. Unfortunately for me where I am there is Diebold.
Yes it does. It reduces his mandate. He can't claim a ringing endorsement and you won't have defiled your sacred vote with a pig. You fail to ratify evil. It's a scam!
I wouldn't vote for a pig. So much for the pig's mandate. I'd like to vote for Gary Johnson, but how will I know who gets my electronic vote?
Hows that? All the hanging chad votes were for Gore. Every time there was a recount Gores tally went up and chads littered the floor.
I have the option of electronic voting OR a paper ballot, and I choose the paper ballot every time. This way I can write in the candidate of my choice, who, oddly enough, is never an establishment candidate. That way, when my vote is corrupted, it has to be a laborious, done-by-hand process and not simply a line of programming on the Diebold computer. I like to make them work to corrupt my vote. Yeah, I am a dick, why do you ask? ;)
Read The Cloward-Piven Strategy. They’re plan all along was/is to crash the economy to usher in a Socialist state. Barry isnt incompetent or stupid. In fact he’s highly intelligent. He also knows EXACTLY what he’s doing, which makes him DANGEROUS. Look at everything that has transpired since he took office and it becomes very clear – NEVER passed a budget [required by law], unprecedented welfare & foodstamp enrollment, unprecedented poverty, 4 years of $1.5 TRILLION dollar spending, first US credit downgrade in history, ignores his own budget panel [bowles-simpson], sets up special sequestration panel which fails completely, etc, etc, etc. Ignore the words and focus on the actions. Obviously Barry and the Progressives wont admit this openly because the people would revolt. They play the game and he continues to placate the masses while continuing the march toward system overload. This has got to qualify as one of history’s greatest frauds.
I just thank God every day for the complete and total worldwide economic collapse, cause that's the only thing that will solve most of our problems.
and billions of people that have nothing to gain from a "complete and total worldwide economic collapse" that would make them poorer or worse are supposed to cheer you in your nihilism?
have you any idea how spoiled-brattish your comment might sound outside of America?
"In fact he’s (the Resident) highly intelligent." No, he's not. In fact, look at him speaking extemporaneiously, and it is clear that he is, well, not to put too fine a point on it: Stone cold STUPID.
For some reason, there are those who seem to think that "Let's sign everyone up for welfare so it crashes the system" is a brilliant plan that requires genious on the scale of Albert Einstien to conceive and carry out.
Give me a break.
He's an uneducated dolt. Nothing more.
Agreed.
First, months ago, he multiple thread-jacked the top string of every topic pushing for Ron Paul ... then, when RP pulled out, he immediately switched to thread-jacking in support of Obomber.
The Obomber supporters are becoming hysterical, on the net and in the media, at the moment! They're worried.
I couldn't give a fuck which puppet wins (since both parties will follow exactly the same agenda...just as Obomber's administration continued Dubya's administration to the letter), but I object to being treated like a dumb fucking sheep by dumb fucking thread-jacking shills like Michael.
Washington DC needs to be dismantled, not supported by voting [yet again] for more of the same corruption and treason.
Asking for Obomber to crash the system means that Obomber will be in control of the crash and the subsequent rebuild on his backers' terms. Asking for Oromney to crash the system means that Oromney will be in control of the crash and the subsequent rebuild on his backers' terms. The men behind the curtain are the same in both cases.
Both options are therefore idiotic in the extreme!!!
The people need to take control of crashing the current corrupt system (by seceding and repudiating odious debt) ... though, unfortunately, there is no sign of such a movement on the horizon -- either on ZH or in the public at large. **sigh**
A number of my neo-con golf buds (and I have a number of progressive golf buds also, this being the Winter Home of the Great Satan on the Left Coast where I'm about the only sane person remaining) have progressively gone from one Republican front runner to the next finally settling upon the Mittens, each one having been the One and Only God's Gift to Man, the Savior from Heaven when in fact all they really want is to see the O-Man be defeated.
I've tried in vein to explain that it's all the one and the same party in the illusory end and that their only Real Hope for Change lay in the Nomination of Ron Paul where there would be Actual Substantive Discussions of Reality which would conclude with the Embarrassment of the Current One Leviathan System.
They have angered to the point of avoiding me when told that if they run the Mittens that they are merely voting for Yomamma as Hypocritical Traitors to the American Dream and morning constitutional which they claim to hold precious.
Might as well just take a shit as tell me anything more.
The polarization is incredible.
So much for the Unity Thing...
Sorrowfully they are easily angered when confronted with their false pride and intellectual inconsistencies.
And if they do loose, I will be telling them that they elected the Greater Fool, Them Very Selves for not having supported Paul.
And I'll be saying it harshly.
Oh and PS, they say that if Willie Wins, they're gonna sell their gold.
I don't golf with them much anymore as they've become difficult to be around with their self aggrandizing holier than thou hypocrisy.
May God save us all as we have proven clearly incapable ourselves.
No, RP is not posturing.
The Disenfranchised Lost New Generations are looking for an alternative to the main circus.
His tent shall exist long into the future.
The man is prescient.
Foreigners who have read it hold the American Constitution in awe. Americans who have been schooled in it, crap all over it daily. Amazing.
False polarity is one of the oldest tricks in the book.
Start an argument, control both sides, and tell everybody that they're crazy if they don't vote for Obama! Or Romney!
To steer a horse, you use two reins, not one.
Ninety-five percent of humans fall for this stupid shit every time.
No wonder our reptilian overlords think of us as dumb meat animals.
prepare accordingly.
Yes, our reptilian overlords are being proven right, we are cattle. But they have swallowed their own lies. Their spiritual disease has unbalanced their haughty minds, and they have become their own worst enemies. The dumb cattle are guilty of their own sins and will pay dearly, but woe to them who led the sheep astray. They will wish they had never been born.
Yes false polarity is right, I mean left, I mean correct.
I call it the occultist dialectic.
Four more years of Obama or four years of Obama light. Not much of a choice. I hope the Republican party does become demoralized because it definitely does not represent me anymore. Make way for something yellow instead of red or blue. Competition is needed and I hoipe more Americans are looking for change we can believe in. Yeah, Right.
"I hope the Republican party does become demoralized because it definitely does not represent me anymore."
Ditto.
Trust me, I'm hoiping like a muthafucker...
Orange. The Outside Party.
What with the OWS groundswell, I think there is now a viable basis for a third party to develop. Think about it, the red and blue teams finally fully agree on something! Kill the Orange team at any cost. It could be a theatre of opportunity where the opressive corruption if the Status Quo spills out into the open, seemingly without end.
The Outside Party. TOP We're TOPs.
TOPs in WOA! [War Of Attrition] against the Status Quo
Rhymes with Orange! (then certainly not Red or Blue)
Orange you glad I did'nt say banana [republic]?
Work with me here.
Im still on the fence.
Try this on, Ron Paul, leader of the patriot party.
......Paul's Patriot Party. Sort of rolls off the tounge quite nicely.
As I have always said, the republican campaign slogan "Not as bad as the democrats" is no way to run a country.
Ron Paul:
"I don't fully endorse bestiality or crapping in one's pants."
He better not really have said that or I'll be voting for either Yommy or Williewinkie.
The bestiality part don't bother me but at my age but crapping in one's own pants from time to time is dutifully permissible.
The New Normal
LOL
Voting for dems/repubs is like bobbing for turds. Always leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
Liberty.
FUCK THE PARTY. IT is NOT about the PARTY. ROMNEY = Obama. There is NO difference except Romney has changed some of his stances in the last year and purchased a lifetime NRA membership in 08. no FUCK you and FUCK your party unity. This is NOT about feeling good and tingles up your leg. do you not realize that a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama, and a vote for obama is a vote for Romney. They are one and the same, with NO real difference in the outcomes of this nation. It is Ron Paul or bust.
If a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama why would anyone vote for Ron Paul?
Mr. Paul has done much to get his views to the main streem. Unfortunately it took the financial shock of 08' combined with a dismal excuse for a Presidency to get everyone to listen.
Regardless, Ron Paul is a success and better to vote for someone who is closer to your beliefs than someone who is further..
A vote for Gary Johnson in this election is basically a symbolic vote for Ron Paul and a snub for Romney. No point throwing it at Obama.
Mitt is an unadulterated Wall Street/neocon sock puppet. I am so fed up with the GOP. Time to cast another protest vote for the Libertarians. Go Gary!
Who cares about republicans or democrats?
Fuck all politicians. Fuck Obama. Fuck Romney. And fuck Ron Paul.
Down here in Congressional District 14, where we still live free, Ron Paul ain't so special. His stances are generally common.
So WTF am I so supposed to get so excited about? How to raid a Republican primary and then whine when you don't win? He should write a book, 'How to go to Washington and be completely ineffective by being perceived as a whack job'. Wasn't no wonder his Republican primary run was much of the same. So look for his second book 'How to run for President and be completely ineffective'. And he is so not representing his district with his talk of legalizing 12 million illegal aliens. Nope. Good thing he's not running for re-election, he'd have been served a tall fucking glass of comeuppance. Fucking politicians.
And now I have to read a thousand whiney ron paul bitches complaining how republicans gave ron paul the shaft. Fucking whiney bitches.
Ron Paul!
What did Ron expect from a "Super Pirate"?
"Voting is the illusion of choice. The only real fucking choice Americans have is at Baskin-Robbins with all those fucking flavors!" - George Carlin (RIP)
Fuck, I miss him!!
The aging of the conservative side of the SOTUS and who will choose the replacements is a very important issue. A great deal of what we consider our personal freedoms could vanish in an eye blink if the court decides. Mittens will select a different (not better) type of SCOTUS nominee then Barry.
Never trusted the slimy Bastard Mitten anyway.RP rocks.
Just remember that the very same voters that gave us Kennedy for so many years also gave us Romney. I don't think Kennedy was won because he was conservative. I am certain Romney won because he was liberal enough....
Remember to write in Ron Paul's name on the general election ballot (unless it is already there)!
The only one speaking the truth. The rest of the pols are so damn smarmy and same ol same ol. Voting is now a joke. At the local level it still has some meaning. State and national, nope. All bought and paid for, just letting the peasants think they have some influence.
Write-ins don't get tallied anywhere. How about voting for Gary Johnson? At least that will publicly show the GOP you are motivated enough to vote but disgusted enough not to vote for them. And since a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Obama, well, I agree with Michael.
Hasten the collapse. Obama 2012! It may help to bust the left out of the Matrix.
Obama 2012, 2016, 2020 ... does that look and sound like your collapse?
Romney is going to do exactly the same things Obama will do because they have the same puppetmasters. It will be Puppetmasters 2012, 2016, 2020, until it all collapses- or until people realize our so-called democracy is a sham and they revolt. I'm certainly not going to vote for Obama but I do think he will be a better wake-up call than Romney. I want to see the look on the leftists' faces when Obama throws them under the bus and sends them to the camps. I also want the right to stay righteously pissed off. Romney would mollify some of them. Remember how quiet they were when Bush was doing everything Obama is doing?
How did you get so smart? You know what he is gonna do and you have no fuckin idea what the issues are when he gets into officie.
I don't know specifics. What I am saying is that on the big stuff (i.e., the inevitable brutal crackdown following the inevitable hyperinflation), it doesn't matter if we get Obama or Romney because they will both move America deeper into totalitarianism in any way that benefits their bankster puppetmasters. Now, as for the all-important issues of gay marriage, magic underpants, terrorist fist jabs and American flag lapel pins: Obama and Romney are encouraged to go their separate ways. This hides the fact that America is a one-party dictatorship.
I switched from the Libertarian Party to the Republican Party specifically so that I could support and vote for Ron Paul, and try to help change the Republican Party from within. I gave quite a lot, for me, to the cause.
I went to the precinct caucus and became a county delegate. Found out my precinct leader screwed up(supposedly) and didn't take the votes for the Congressional and State delegates. That allowed me request and to become a delegate for said conventions, for paying the parties fees. When it came to the State convention I found out my name wasn't on the list. My County Chair said she did what she was supposed to do, but someone else higher up in the State party dropped the ball. Yeah, okay, sure.
I educated myself on issues. I donated to Ron Paul's campaign to the full extent, which is a ton for me! I wore Ron Paul 2012 T-Shirts most everywhere I went, if not End The Fed t-shirts. I personally delivered Ron Paul Super-brochures to about 1,800 doors in my neighborhood. I have three Ron Paul bumper stickers on my tailgate. I put Ron Paul signs up in my yard. Like a lot of other people, I made posts and tweets all over the Internet about Ron Paul and Austrian Economic ideals. And I could probably go on and on if I could recall more right now.
Since Dr. Paul has been almost completely marginalized, many times not even mentioned... I have decided I am voting for Gary Johnson since he will be, on the ballot, and on the ballot in all 50 States. And I will return to the Libertarian Party.
Thank's for the effort. You are appreciated whereever you go.
Hey thanks SubjectivObject.
Cheers
Thank you for your effort, indeed. You're a better man than I.
I think Kipling wrote something about how sometimes the best a man could hope for is to die on the barricades in the company of other good men.
He was writing about people like you.
Thank you again.
On a site where there are more conservatives you may say a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Obama, but I wouldn't vote for either if Johnson weren't running. The problem is Diebold, corrupt polls, and propaganda msm.
There are lots of angry 2008 Obama voters who can't stand NDAA-lover Romney.
NDAA was signed into law by Obama...
Excuse me. Didn't mean to imply Furor Obama was neutral or against the NDAA.
romney and obama are neocon chickenhawk bailout-the-elites warmongering socialists. just what the majority of the country love to keep their governement checks rolling in. freedom loving workers are doomed with this pair
Already plan on doing that. Trying to mobilize the rest of my family as well.
"we will become the tent eventually!"
Political maneuvering at it's finest
And I have to agree with him. Of course the one thing we can say about Romney that I can find as a positive:
At least he won't have DHS come to your home and kill you in the middle of the night.
(yet)
Romney's been on several sides of every issue.
Since obama is always on the wrong side of every issue, then the odds are better Romney will at least get a few right.
But in espousing contradictory positions Romney shows that he is either a liar or an idiot or that he thinks you're too stupid to notice the contradictions.
Let's assume you're right that he's a liar. Well, isn't obama even more of a liar?
Let's assume you're right that he's an idiot. Well, isn't obama even more of an idiot?
Let's assume that you are resolved to select the lesser of two evils. Would you prefer to be smashed in the head with a hammer or with a crowbar?
He will. He is a bishop of the Mormon Church of Latter Day Satanists and they believe in and have openly practiced blood letting - execution - as a purification ritual. Gary Gilmore asked for it, and deserved it. But this is why he asked for it.
At least its not the barbecue.
Look at all the down votes, so quickly! Not going to earn my vote that way, Beck.
The GodMakers I & II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_vengeance
The oath of vengeance was... under the direction of Brigham Young...
"The prophets" referred to Joseph Smith and Hyrum Smith, who were killed in 1844 by a mob while in jail in Carthage, Illinois. "This nation" referred to the United States.
Yeah. And don't forget that HUGE public record of Mormons through history since overtly and covertly carrying out Young's demand for retribution against the US.
I'm with ya bro. It's you and me against the Mormon conspracy.
<mondosarcododo>
This nation was established on sound principles that do not include any religious philosophy whatsoever. Hitler would have been right at home with the LDS brethren; in fact, they baptized both Adolf & Eva. You'll be meeting them again on Kolab...
The Age of Reason
btw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_War
Dr. James White compares LDS beliefs to Christianity
Come on. As if Mormonism is any sillier than other forms of Christianity...
Are Old Testament quotes enough to put this garbage to bed?
WHO CARES?
Mormonism is not a form of Christianity. DYOH
1. No. What "quotes" are you refering to?
2. EVERYONE IN THE WORLD.
The future of the GOP is decidedly uncertain. The future of the liberty movement is bright.
All the GOP had to do was play nice with Dr. Paul during the primaries and they would have gained a whole new generation of members not to mention folks like me who have voted Democrat for decades. Now, not so much.
So, still a Democrat, or have you dumped the red team/blue team dichotomy?
Had to register R to vote for Paul in the primary. I actually resigned my seat on the local Democratic Committee (a trifling position would be overstating things) in 2008 so that I could vote for Ron then. I'll switch to Independent on my next DL renewal. I won't be voting in November, at least not for President. I've written in presidential votes before but they are either not tallied or not reported.
Republicans know how to alienate many... hispanics, gays, blacks, muslims,women, middle class
Mr. Hope-n-Change division class starts now.
Coulda sworn Cain ran in the primary and was derided as an Uncle Tom by leftist dims. They even dragged out some ladies who said he sexually assaulted them. I suppose they weren't that concerned about their dignity after he dropped out?
I guess sitting Senator Rubio and Senator elect Cruz is an Uncle...what, exactly?
So, O'Barry is using drones on who again, or is his white half making him do that? I distinctly remember a photo of him warching a monitor as one of the most prominent muslims I know of was double tapped by a SEAL team...or was that a fake? If it was fake, O'Barry is lying isn't he?
What women are being alienated? The ones who want someone else to pay for their birth control, like Georgetown law students paying 50k a year to attend law school? It costs ten bucks a month ya know. Do you know how many black and brown babies are aborted, funded by the state, yearly? Why do you hate the idea of more black kids in the country? You're a closeted eugenicist aren't you?
Did you get your hate chicken sandwich yet? How was it...the pickle I mean?
And middle class...define for me middle class, without any government subsidy...TIA ;-)
You'll have to excuse him ... he's read his talking points from the daily kos.
Many are the times we have been over this. Make me laugh!
The middle class is the king class in US Citizenism.
Blobbing-up is a US middle class thing.
The nature of US middle class citizens is eternal.
Got it now?
It took all I could manage to keep from goin off on the asshole.
I mean really, we're being robbed everyday and these fucking punks want us to look at the dancing bear side show.
... democrats, commies, socialists, OWS public shitters...
Worked on Ron Paul campaigns for 5 years. After the convention fiasco, I'm actually going to vot for Obama. Let the bastard be TOTUS when the ship sinks. If the Repubs win both houses, maybe they can start an impeachment. That would be cool.
I'd rather have the village idiot who can't fabricate a sentence on his own being president than somone raised from birth to finish off the Republic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h45kDRTfJ7A
Yes, stand firm and don't vote ... or vote for Obama if you're angry enough at the marginalization of RP by the RNC/Faux news asshats...
That's pretty much the argument. I can tell you anyone who calls themselves or has voted republican in the past is lying to themselves by voting for the biggest joke in the history of our republic.
what's keeping Paul from ditchinb the republican party and running as independent?
I wish he would, so we could stick a fork in at least one-half of the Spam loaf.
If we get a major crash between now and Nov, he just might win. If things muddle along, he could split the vote and throw the election to Obama, who has certain perverse advantages over Romney (see above). What would be really interesting is if RP comes first in the popular vote, Obamney comes second, and Roboma comes last. Without an electoral college majority, the election goes into the House. Some liberty candidates could hold out for Ron Paul, and Dems would obviously hold out for Obama, thus forcing a bunch of GOP congresscritters to vote for... Obama! This would tear down the two-party facace and possibly inspire Texas to secede. If Texas secedes during the collapse and crackdown, most states would follow. Could NY, DC, NJ, MD, MA, CT, RI, and DE hold out against everyone else? Bwahahahah
Too late int he game, and no viable 3rd party apparatus.
At this point, I accept that provocation of soul seaching and emphasis of principles within the Party itself is a justified approach. Much more and consistent activism on the part of the proles is needed here. If the Party machines leave us with only a lesser of evils choice, RP by any means is certainly the preferred option.
pragmatic hobo "what's keeping Paul from ditchinb the republican party and running as independent?"
Ron Paul is far more Conservative then many people realize when he says cut he means it he would cut everything he could. If he left he would be on his own because the left wouldn't cut social programs. His political ideology is actually far more Conservative then even the so called most fiscally responsible Conservative. He is of the older Conservative crowd the one that used to be against foreign entanglements thus his stance on bringing home the troops and closing the bases. He is not against protecting America he is just against being the policeman of the world. He also said he recognized Jerusalem is the capital of Israel the left doesn't like that.
""The real issue here is not what America wants, but what does Israel want," Paul told evangelical leaders, according to a transcript of the meeting obtained by Business Insider. "If Israel wants their capital to be Jerusalem, then the United States should honor that."
"How would we like it if some other nation said 'We decided to recognize New York City as your capital instead, so we will build our embassy there?'" he added. "
Ron Paul Backs Jerusalem as CapitalGetting on the ballot in enough states would be near impossible. Some states don't let a candidate who ran in a party primary to enter the general election as an independent. There are numerous impediments.
The RNC insisted Ron Paul's speech be cleared by them and that he fully endorse Romney.
Ron Paul insisted on maintaining his 30 year record of being consistent on his principles.
"Like a boss," as the Ron Paul kids say.
Kowtow to those mutherfuckers? No way Hosehey. Go RP.
Liberty.
This whole gold standard talk was an attempt at trying to appease Ron Paul and get his supporters under the Romney umbrella. I knew it was bullshit then and this just confirms it.
That is maybe what bothers me most about the RNC: They either are that fucking clueless to think anyone that likes RP would vote for Romney, or just trying to be assholes and give us the middle finger.
Neither of which is good.
It's a combination of both.
It's '...an abomination of both...' or '...Obamanation...'
I have never known either party platform to mean anything. Once elected the winner will do whatever he wants.
Ron Paul: "I Don't Fully Endorse Romney For President"
So......what part or policies of Romney does Ron Paul support? To say that RP does not fully support Romney implies that RP partially supports Romney. What part or parts does he support?
It's a reasonable question.
I think it's code for saying I'm not going to throw my support behind him but I'm also not going to divide the party.
Exactly right...the enemy of my enemy.
I'm not even a big Ron Paul fan, but what more could he do at this point (and stay within the existing system) without becoming completely marginalized?
I've followed his career for some time (I'm 52).
He has tried to remain consistent, within the system as constructed for him, for his entire life. I wouldn't call myself a fan but I voted for him in the Florida primary as the one most closely holding my views.
Now its down to two.
I am ABO, first and foremost...and so is he.
I've stated so in no uncertain terms on more occasions than I can remember.
I also support the TP. I sent my little tea bag in while O'Barry was still moving his shit into the WH and they were resucitating the fake fainters next to the fake Greek columns (styrofoam) that this skinny little twerp stood beside. He is a menace to everything I know and love about this country and so is Reid. I have had to sit back and endure "Hope & Change", Cash for Clunkers, GM bond holders being ass raped, Larry Summers, Eric Holder, "jobs saved or created" lies and obfuscation, BLS bullshit, Christina fucking Romer and every other statist tool from academia that they can scrape their fat ass out of a chair and stuff in front of a TV camera to prop up this fraud...with the underlying knowledge my countrymen would wake up eventually.
To your point, he would need a Senate and a House controlled by people who think like him.
To my point, I'm not interested in compromise at all.
You and I are about the same age.
We're also probably as far apart on the artificial political spectrum as you can get.
However, I think the line is really more of a circle.
I used to joke with one of my good friends like this:
Q: What's the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian?
A: The size of his wallet.
lol...thats a good one.
I've had running commentary with akak on this. For the record, I'm middle class. My wallet ain't that big.
The thing with anarchy is, as I've said before, you and I could survive quite well in it...my neighbors could not. There would come a time when structure (rules and law) would come into the community...for good or ill.
The idea is to shape it for the good of all without it becoming the "whats in it for me" on the other side of the circle we're confronting now. We're seeing the withdrawl from the corruption now. If it goes to hell I'm (and mine) are fine but its not what I want.
I want it back. I want the rule of law applied evenly to everyone regardless of status.
Its no more fair for a senators son to avoid a war that the senators dad voted for, than for a government to vote themselves endless entititlements exhorting others to keep them in office by promising endless entitlements.
"I want it back. I want the rule of law applied evenly to everyone regardless of status."
It's never been here to have back. Since the beginning of civilization there has always been two sets of rules. One for the well connected and another set for the proles. Unfortunatly the proles just shrug their shoulders and take what is shoveled to them.
Understood...but I have a dream ;-)
Doc it's never been this in your face screwed up as it has been under Eric Holder.
Zero. Yes. Zero prosecutions of Wall St. criminals.
Agreed but I prefer it this way for two reasons
1) we are no longer living under the illusion of fairness. Eventually people will get tired if it.
2) it shows their arrogance and arrogance is a weakness that can be exploited.
So I welcome the in your face criminality it means we are one step closer to the end game.
Who did Rand Paul indorse?
I thought we were talking about Ron Paul... an entirely different person. My dad was a democrat voting autoworker. Does that mean I have to be the same?
You can be whatever you want, But this was a political strategy to further Rands fortunes..... This is not disputed by most political observers, not in the MSM....
Ron Paul didn't make that endorsement. Somebody else did that.
If it wasn't Rand, than WHO!!! YOU INDICATED THAT YOU KNEW!!!!Fes up, I need to know so I won't make the same mistake.....
Rand who?
Rand Paul has actually endorsed Romney.
Who did he indorse
You think that there is any distinction between the parties?? WTF Divide the parties???? There is no division fucktard,,,,,,,His son endorsed Mitt
You need a brain bypass.....
Yep that's me one complete fucktard. I wasn't certain, I thank you for confirming my suspicions.
My pleasure,,,
Your suspicions are correct, and I congratulate you!! It’s not often that someone can admit their shortcomings..
I'm a little confused when it comes to history. Was government set up to have parties, initially? Under a libertarian Government, is government just a safe-keeper of the constitution and Bill of Rights?
Pretty sure it was a contract between the people and those we elect, to tell, what we knew would become a bureaucratic government, what it could not do.
Very libertarian. They broke the contract.
Game over...reset.
I like the "reset" part.
I'm afraid so Al...with all that entails.
Its come down to it...Alexis was right.
Alexis?
"A democratic government is the only one in which those who vote for a tax can escape the obligation to pay it." - Alexis de Tocqueville
Cog, in my opinion, I think RP is showing a little diplomacy in his statements, and not without strategic forethought.
Cheers
cog d:on topic -it would be none(policies) as the oath to office is contractual in nature and adheres to the constitution.
so, road walk talk; he is a politician.
damnit, why the fuck does everyone read so much into this and believe the MSM BULLSHIT of a Romney/Paul 'conspiracy' or what the fuck else ever.
Ron Paul said the same thing about Newt Gingrich when they asked if he would endorse him and he said, not likely UNLESS he changes his views.
This is why the Ronbots/Ronulans/Paulites or whatever the hell else you want to call us STILL BELIEVE Ron Paul is winning.
Paul has not endorsed Romney, and Paul sure has fuck hasn't changed a SINGLE ISSUE to Romney's views...but..Romney's views are slowly changing to Paul's views...
Romeny is now backing an audit of the fed... http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-08-20/romney-calls-for-fed-audit-a...
The GOP is talking about returning to a gold standard (yes they talking about the old failed bretton woods fixed rate, but at least we're TALKING about it, not just ignoring it)
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/12614-gop-considers-r...
Romney would fire Bernake (ok ok, he'll just elect another Keynsian doofus but damnit lets at least get rid of Bernake)
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/08/mitt-rom...
These are the positions of Romney that Ron Paul 'supports'. He is NOT endorsing Mittens, but his issues are now Romney's issues, hence his mention of 'not fully endorsing'.
Obviously the 2 biggest things Ron has not managed to get Romney/GOP to talk about yet, is the size of the Pentagon and the welfare state (medicare/medicaid/soc sec).
But please, lets keep shit in perspective here.
Whatever the outcome, I'm not voting for an empty suit. I'm still voting for Ron Paul. At least he has firm beliefs that he doesn't try to hide.
Anybody that votes is putting their signature on this totally corrupt and discredited fucking clown show!!! Go vote you fucking sheep!!!
Keep voting,, it will have a profound impact on your PROSPARITY over the last fifty years,,,,all the politicians LOVE YOU!!!!!
We need to have an election that nobody shows up to!!!! Fuck these criminals
I think if you reply to your own comment, you should at least argue a little.
No you do not think any such thing, moron. Sober up.
+100 for the belly laugh.
And, fuck sober. Get as drunk as you can for as long as you can. The ass raping hurts less then. ;)
You think?? Now that's an anomaly...
I did, and you showed up unfortunately!! Extending the argument is not in your toolkit apparently..
P.S You just responed to your own post NO????
That happens all the time,,,your bolted connection to ZH is 2 years 10 weeks and this has escaped you????
Actually I prefer the idea of lettingTPTB know how many of us our out there by writing in Ron Paul's name is much more effective than sitting around on your ass just bitching and calling people names.
The two things are not mutually exclusive.
than sitting around on your ass just bitching and calling people names.
You have no idea who I have engaged in these political battles,,, As it relates to sitting on my ass,,, how dare you suggest that,,, who the fuck do you think you are!!! I have sacrificed many dollars and sweat in this battle and you have the audacity to suggest that I have been lax???? You are an uninformed incompetent.
You are talking out both sides of your mouth now. First you put down people who participate , now you are putting down people because you made the choice to participate and "sacrifice many dollars". which one is it? In your own words are you a fucktard for participating or not? Or are you a fucktard for calling people names for participating when you yourself actually do? I prefer to think of people like that as hypocrites.
Oh by the way....bold letters are soooo seventh grade.
....bold letters are soooo seventh grade.
I prefer to think of people like that as hypocrites.
You can prefer all you like,,,Bold letters?? I'm surprised you noticed...I put my money where it counts, not where people PARTICIPATE,,, In the general schema,, Do you get it now??? You are tiring me out with your inane BS, Please do us all a favor and disengage,,,It will be appreciated by all..
So you put your money into the system then you call people fucktards and idiots because they choose to vote as they see fit in the system.... Seems perfectly logical to me. By the way I believe it was you who started the engagement when you called me a fucktard for writing in Ron Paul's name. I am retaliating by letting you point out your hypocrisy through your own posts.
I'm proud of you!!!! As you wallow in the system!!!!
Oh you are such a rebel throwing your money at the very same system. You are living on the edge like Humpty Dumpty.
Please find another hobby besides posting here!!!! Did you really think I put my money anywhere in this system!!!!! Only Gold///Silver, I suppose I should say it now!!! You fucktard!! BTW Humpty Dumty was pushed..
OK I'm now waiting for you next ridiculous counterpoint..
"I suppose I should say it now!!! You fucktard!!"
Wow five explanation points even! You must really be serious.... Well no you can't be too serious you didn't use your bold letters. But I digress, I wish I had your cognitive abilities to be able to use words like " fucktard " followed by two explanation points. Impressive... Do it some more.
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No need to use !! when ! will do. Unless of course you are in grade school.
Unless of course you are in grade school.
You would engage me if that where the case????
PHD Engali,
Post your thesis
And from what institution? I will follow up!!!
I usually spell it like this.... Follow.
I see you changed your post in time from folloe to follow. No difference we both know what you did. Here are a few more explanation points for you. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Spend them freely they are cheap.