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Ron Paul Statement On The Fed's Bailout Of Europe

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From Ron Paul

Statement on the Fed's Continued Euro Bailout

The Fed's latest actions in cooperating with foreign central banks to undertake liquidity swaps of dollars for foreign currencies is another reason why Congress needs enhanced power to oversee and audit the Fed.  Under current law Congress cannot examine these types of agreements.  Those who would argue that auditing the Fed or these agreements with central banks harms the Fed's independence should reevaluate the Fed's supposed independence when the Fed bails out Europe so soon after President Obama promised US assistance in resolving the Euro crisis.

Rather than calming markets, these arrangements should indicate just how frightened governments around the world are about the European financial crisis.  Central banks are grasping at straws, hoping that flooding the world with money created out of thin air will somehow resolve a crisis caused by uncontrolled government spending and irresponsible debt issuance.  Congress should not permit this type of open-ended commitment on the part of the Fed, a commitment which could easily run into the trillions of dollars.  These dollar swaps are purely inflationary and will harm American consumers as much as any form of quantitative easing. 

The Fed is behaving much as it did during the 2008 financial crisis, only this time instead of bailing out politically well-connected too-big-to-fail firms it is bailing out profligate government spending. Citizens the world over deserve better than this. They deserve sound money that cannot be manipulated and created out of thin air by central planners who promise printed prosperity. Fiat money caused this European crisis and the financial crisis before it.  More fiat money is not the cure. The global fiat currency system has proven itself a failure, we need real monetary reform. We need sound money.


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Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:05 | 1931223 max2205
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Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:07 | 1931240 slaughterer
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Wonder if this Paul missive heats up Fed attacks amongst the Congess Critters. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:09 | 1931246 junkyardjack
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No matter how many times they call the Fed in front of Congress, it'll continue to do what Goldman wants

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:25 | 1931369 Troll Magnet
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Anybody noticed how NPR is avoiding Ron Paul?  I listen to their morning & evening programs on my way to work/home and they never, ever mention Ron Paul.  I used to respect them a bit but it goes to show that they're just part of the propaganda machine.

Spend a minute and voice your complaint at their Website.  They need to hear from more of us. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:28 | 1931402 Pladizow
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Not-so stealthy QE3 Bitchez!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:37 | 1931462 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Ron Paul, bitchez

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:45 | 1931515 bigdumbnugly
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if a tree falls in the forest of the MSM, does it make a sound?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:52 | 1931545 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Not if it lands on the presstitutes.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:34 | 1931780 trav7777
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But I'm sure that the REST of the MSM's message on a lot of "sacred truths" is totally 100% true, eh?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:46 | 1931832 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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If you believe the opposite of what they say on everything except peak oil then you will be 99% correct (small margin of error due to slight humility).

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:05 | 1932721 trav7777
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the MSM is *correct* on Peak oil?  WTF

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:01 | 1933097 boiltherich
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WAIT:  Look over there, Iran is on fire!  Pay no attention to the chairsatan behind the curtain. 

Dear Mr. Paul:

I know that it will be impossible for you to win with zero news coverage but I want you to fight on anyway, and I am planning to cast my last ever vote for you as a write in no matter what because there is not another person running besides you that even I could not do better than, not a big ego here but a very dim view of all other candidates. Today the Fed set aside the last pretense of American freedom by bailing out European banks/governments, and congress and the president applaud.  Aside from the utter lack of shame on the part of Europe which refuses to get it's own house in order and would rather take trillions of our dollars than actually fix their own mess, the Fed should not have the authority to do this.  Congress has also decided to ratify the indefinite imprisonment of American citizens, without charge.  I cannot live in such a nation. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:45 | 1931824 Thomas
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All of the MSM outlets are now blacking out any mention of RP. I guess if you are going to purchase the media, you make sure you purchase the entire media. Given the constitutional importance of the media, I would call this sort of control treasonous.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:48 | 1931843 bernorange
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It's up to individuals like you to help spread the word and start pressuring your Congressional Representatives.  Sound money if you want it.  Have you asked your Congressman to co-sponsor or support HR 1098?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:05 | 1931934 LFMayor
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oh yes, by all means call your representatives.  As if those fuckers are going to do a damn thing to spill the soup bowl they're eating from

They wouldn't piss on you, (or any of us) if you caught fire at their very feet. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:28 | 1932089 bernorange
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Fortunately, a bunch of people took a more constructive attitude in telling their reps to support an audit of the Fed back in the day.  It finally forced Barney Frank to let Ron's bill have life after more than half the House was co-sponsoring it.  If your Rep only hears from one or two constituents, it's not going to bother him.  If he hears from enough mad as hell voters though, self preservation instincts kick in.  At any rate, it costs you much less to pick up the phone or send an email / letter / fax than to do nothing and give tacit support to their shenanigans.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:51 | 1932217 LFMayor
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Whew, glad that bill passed,  we're saved!

their shenanigans will be their undoing.  Time and Greed have gotten us to this point, near the crux.  they couldn't help it, it's in the sociopaths nature to destroy himself  Soon they'll learn all about self-preservation instincts, and not because of stern talking to's from over the phone.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:03 | 1932300 bernorange
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You totally missed my point.  I understand your fatalist POV, but it is still possible to pressure Congress to act according to the will of their constituents.  Constituents have to be willing to speak, however.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:17 | 1932396 smlbizman
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let me ask......when your constituents provide you with 2 trll a yr in revenue..

and your other constituents provide you of at least 10 trll a yr....

who is your constituents?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:14 | 1932754 Real Money Wins
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Citizens Arm Yourselves

The time for talk is over!

Let the Traitors swing from the Liberty Oak Trees!


Sic semper tyrannis

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:27 | 1932482 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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I think the Bawney Fwank exit is very interesting, considering he could do damn near anything with total impunity. Why go now? Is he leaving because he's going to suck off the private industry teat (vs what he's used to sucking), or is he in the "unfavored" category now?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:29 | 1932093 whirlybird rules
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with all due respect, is doing nothing better?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:45 | 1932184 LFMayor
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Fair question.  Nothing, or spending your free time networking locally, reloading, prepping, learning? There's a big difference.  refusing to waste time in a rigged game is not nothing, it just means I have that much more time to spend elsewhere than upon self ensnarement.

There is no saving the system.  you cannot win because that's the way it was designed.  It's just an illusion to keep you placid. 

Join 10k other protestors at the reflecting pool in DC
Give to United Way

All designed to make you feel like you're making a difference.  All amount to nothing.  All designed to trap you into an unerring faith in the very system that's trapped you.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:00 | 1932280 The Big Ching-aso
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"Sound" money to some people these days is the unique ringing noise certain types of coins make when dropped.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:07 | 1932311 Lester
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Exactly!  +1000


Members here mostly, Want To Believe?  Wasn't that the X-Files movie title?


If Ron Paul had a clue about how he could "make a difference", he would already have done so.  The men we entrusted to safeguard our money have stolen it ALL and used a tiny portion to bribe our elected officials and government workers wherever the money we entrusted to them needed to be applied.

These are the same fucking bastards from Wall St. and City Of London who fomented the Bolsheviks and Communist Revolution to rob the Tsar and keep Russia and the rest of the world off-balance while it looted them as well.


Grow the fuck up.  The system has been perverted into their perfection and they have looted U.S. continually over the past 3 years.  Every bit of money that could be looted under auspices of Federal, State, and Local govt has been LOOTED or put onto the publics back using debt financings based on FRAUD.

Your vote means even less than your opinion.
If you haven't taken action to secure the future for your family by now, you have failed to observe what the Looters have arranged for you; namely, destruction, starvation, or outright murder.

Only you can take the steps which might mean your bloodline will survive.
The elections have been rigged for years and nothing ever is changed or repaired.
All the seedstock has been eaten, and there is nothing left to build on or plant; UNLESS you make provision for self & family.  The political circus is just a charade.

Paul ought to be leading a Revolution, rather than scratching his head in wonder and being Mr. Nice Guy.  He is too old, too timid, and knows there is nothing to save should he actually gain power.  We are long out of what Naomi Wolfe called "that awkward stage", but nobody will voice what must be done to those who put America and Americans into financial ruin and made sure there could be no rescue...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:11 | 1932335 whstlblwr
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Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:21 | 1932430 LFMayor
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Obama is Ron Paul is Newt.   Just like Dole was Clinton was Perot.
It's always two wings, same shitbird.  The 3rd (or Green, Libertarian, Independent) is just an insurance policy of distraction and divisiveness.  Play their game and you lose.

Save you gas money and time and buy silver rounds or 7.62 instead.  They won't fail you.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:49 | 1933110 whstlblwr
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Most idiotic comment ever on ZH. Bullshit. You tell this to Gene Sharp and see what he has to say about it.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:53 | 1931550 redpill
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Ron Paul is the only sane voice in the chorus of global madness.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:04 | 1931612 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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There are a few I like, but Paul is the best because I agree with him on monetary policy and the constitution.

I have a hard time with some of his policy because it is obvious that there will be systemic failure.  Then I remember I am an optimist when it comes to human ingenuity, and I realize that we will remake this once great Nation into how we see fit.

For example:

I wish we could have public schools for all.  But the problem is that the public school system has turned into a prison system for children.  Once it collapses I think maybe there will be more freedom.

I can only be an optimist and stand up with people to decide our fate.  Taking power of our destiny is our only choice.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:24 | 1931726 wanklord
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By appealing to tons of bullshit about the Constitution and other patriotic crap, Congressman Ron Paul is able to seduce his brute and ignorant constituency while doing nothing at all in Congress (a clever way to make easy money). He is just part of the establishment while pretending to be a "genuine patriot." Dr. Paul is also a mediocre version of one of Leo Strauss' categories of society: the Gentlemen

The gentlemen, are lovers of honour and glory. They are the most ingratiating towards the conventions of their society – that is, the illusions of the cave. They are true believers in God, honour, and moral imperatives. They are ready and willing to embark on acts of great courage and self-sacrifice at a moment's notice.

Besides that, Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue. The sooner the US economy collapses the better, so these brutes will finally learn NOT to live beyond their means.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:30 | 1931753 whstlblwr
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No one can under estimate the measure status quo will take to undermine Ron Paul election.

Those who live in closed primary state, change your voter registration to Republican to vote for Paul in primary. In some states registered independents can't vote for Republican.

Closed primary states:
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
Rhode Island
South Dakota
West Virginia

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:30 | 1931763 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Paul voted against the Patriot act, he voted against Bernanke's renomination, he voted against the Afghan and Iraq wars....come on, he walks the walk.

The Constitution is all we have to defend ourselves from the fascist government(s).

You tell me Americans are stupid, but how about that there are plenty of stupid people in the world.  But we do not care about them, they are followers, and they will be lead to water or not.  We must lead now, and Paul is a proven leader.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:37 | 1931793 mayhem_korner
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Paul voted against the Patriot act, he voted against Bernanke's renomination, he voted against the Afghan and Iraq wars....come on, he walks the walk.


Let me point out the obvious, albeit unpopular truth: ALL of those things passed despite Paul's vote against.  Which reinforces my point about Paul: resonant and effectual are very, very different concepts.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:48 | 1931840 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Effectual, in this congress?  You are saying Paul is inefectual, because of the Congress that surrounds him?  This thought lacks sound logic.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:54 | 1931869 mayhem_korner
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You say he's a proven me what he's led that actually has been passed.  How many followers does he have in Congress?  He is an isolated element, even if he's the most sane one in there.

Don't get me wrong.  I think the guy is a great voice.  I'm just pointing out the reality of what it amounts to in practical terms. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:01 | 1931913 TruthInSunshine
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You're right, MK, we'd be much better off with no one like Ron Paul, because he hasn't won the battles (the War still lay ahead, however), rather than someone like him, who has influenced millions and planted seeds that will inevitably grow into might oaks.



Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:03 | 1931923 mayhem_korner
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Actually, I was thinking we'd be better with 454 Ron Pauls.  Just turn your lens around and you'll see what I'm really saying.  :D

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:15 | 1931966 TruthInSunshine
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If that were the case, I'd think you'd be lauding his accomplishments, rather than dwelling upon what you are at least implicitly alleging to be his legislative failures (which, as you and I both know, were the result of a corrupt majority in Congress and the Executive Branch, and not the fault of Ron Paul).


*have not junked you.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:16 | 1932006 mayhem_korner
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No, what I'm saying is that if you remove the impediment of the people around him, you might get something done.  That, sir, is more practical than expecting him to overcome the current situation.  Transforming him from ineffectual to effectual has to do with changing the people around him.

Eventually you'll latch on to this and realize I'm on your side, dood.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:24 | 1932056 TruthInSunshine
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As a practical matter, don't you have to replace those people "around him" with people who have the same or similar core beliefs about federalism, adherence to the Constitution, etc., as Ron Paul?

And if so, wasn't Ron Paul's tenure in Congress necessary as the seed that sprouted into a changing of the corrupt guard?

I don't see how real, productive change is possible if you supplant the criminals in Congress of today with criminals in the future.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:52 | 1932231 Capt Tripps
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Just once, I wish somebody would call me "Sir"... without adding, "You're making a scene..."

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:14 | 1932756 trav7777
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You can't get rid of them.

Imagine Bartlett's statement in a boardroom in a conference.  ONE guy understands the exponential.  He tries to convince the group that at time X, the expectations will be 32x present.  The rest of the room can't grasp it and they say, naw, it won't be higher than double now (because they did a linear extrapolation).  Smart guy uses maths on the board.  Rest of group doesn't get it and VOTES that their estimation is correct.  The decision comes out which is provably, mathematically, apodictically WRONG.

This is the Downing Effect; it happens ALL THE TIME.  I have nothing but issues at work with these people because I am expected to SELL or use political means to make the right outcome happen.  The truth simply doesn't cut it.

I would wager that most of the Congressclowns have the "pure heart, empty head" that we discussed in law school.  They don't know, they can't grasp, so they hide in the safety of superior numbers or else wrongly believe that such a thing is simply beyond ANYONE's grasp (because they don't get it).

Advanced mathematics strikes most people as a con job.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:05 | 1932310 saints51
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First post and glad to be here.


My question is how can the man be a leader when the rest of congress is a bunch of puppets? Hard to lead Congress when the majority are bought and paid for. All congress knows how to say is "yes master."

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:52 | 1933117 whstlblwr
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The whateveryoudodon'tvote trolls are out in force. Means some polling we don't see looks good for Ron Paul!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:50 | 1931849 SilverIsKing
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What do you recommend?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:55 | 1931875 mayhem_korner
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Focus your energy on replacing the people around him.  :D

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:57 | 1931894 SilverIsKing
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Good answer

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:07 | 1931949 Michael
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The bigger we can make the debt bubble bomb for maximum effect before it explodes the better. I say print another hundred trillion.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:17 | 1932012 mayhem_korner
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LOL!  Your placement in this thread is comedic timing at its best.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:32 | 1932107 Michael
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Why thank you very much. All a part of the plan. It's a very complicated plan and it's working. Just about ready to go boom.  

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:23 | 1932048 Temporalist
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That is my reaction to peak oil.  Burn all that shit up FASTER! 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:35 | 1932121 Apocalicious
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Absolutely. Pull the fucking bandaid off, already.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:54 | 1931874 secretargentman
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The Law (the Constitution) is NOT all we have to defend ourselves from fascist governments.  Laws never protect people. Laws provide a code of conduct. Governments are instituted to define this code and provide punishment for those who violate it. When the government itself is the law-breaker, we have a God-given right... nay, a DUTY to replace that government.


The two things that ACTUALLY protect us from fascist government are actually related:


1) government fearing revolution

2) revolution


Lets pray the first works, because the second will really suck.



Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:29 | 1932206 TruthInSunshine
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I don't mean to get technical to the point of triviality, but I actually think it's significant that people should realize that the Constitution is more a restriction on the laws that government be allowed to enact, rather than a law or regulation itself.

The Constitution protects inherent RIGHTS & LIBERTIES from the infringement of governmental overreaching (which are often in the form of laws or regulations), whereas laws & regulations must not offend the Constitution (and therefore, the inherent rights and liberties of citizens) in order to be enforced and/or upheld - there are different litmus tests employed by the courts to determine whether laws do or do not violate the constitution, based on the area or matter that the purported law pertains to, such as strict scrutiny, etc. (ultimately the constitutionality of which are ultimately decided upon by the judicial branch - when an appropriate challenge on constitutional grounds has been lodged).

We need not do anything affirmative to avail ourselves of the protection against governmental abuse the Constitution guarantees. The protections of rights and liberties it offers are a shield of protection, and do not have to be actively utilized, like a sword.

*2 great examples of passive protections of rights and liberties protected by the Constitution are 1) the right to just and fair compensation in the event of government taking of property, and 2) the right to bear arms.  As we now know, the rights recognized by the Constitution depend on both all branches of government, but especially the judicial branch, as it alone has the ability to overrule legislative and executive branch abuses of the Constitution.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:37 | 1931797 IH10
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Wanker -

American animals are no different than any other part of the world.  I guarantee you the animals you reside with are just as easily manipulated.  Ron Paul, however, is not one of those animals.  ANY society will live beyond their means when crack cocaine financed money is thrown in their faces on a daily basis.  It's the age old question.  Who deserves more blame...the crack dealer or the user?  I say both but going after the distributor sure does solve the problem much faster.   


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:56 | 1931889 Totin
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wanklord - your post is the stupidest I've read here on ZH in quite awhile. "Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue." - as opposed to the people in your country right? Where all of you have genius IQs, have politicians that are incorruptable, and a constituency that is beyond manipulation right? You are an asshole if you believe the BS you just wrote - far worse then any of us here in the U.S.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:04 | 1931924 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Wanklord is a copy-and-paste paid shill. He has a collection of pre-written comments for a few topics, and pastes one in the comment thread of any article that is at least marginally related to one of his pre-written screeds. His lack of response to any followups to his boilerplate garbage indicates that he never reads any other comments. I doubt he even reads the articles that he comments on, other than a quick glance to see if it covers one of the topics he's paid to post about. The extent of his involvement in the comments he makes is nothing more than CTRL-C and CTRL-V.


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:10 | 1931975 LFMayor
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yes, I think his masters are still pissed about all the opium their ancesotrs were forced to buy with silks and other treasures.
now for a public service announcement:
remember, dirty 3rd worlders, (and all you pall mall smoking, birkenstock wearing butch haircut having lesbos) that you're reading this courtesy of Western Males.  Piss and moan and revise history all you want, but you'll not change the truth.

carry on.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:38 | 1932143 amsterdamzero
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autoposted on anything concerning paul... can we get this troll deleted already?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:42 | 1932163 DionysusDevotee
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Name calling, how sophmoric.  Nay, grade school.  Got anything else? 

Considering that the actions of congress have garnered them a record low approval rating of 14%, accusing him of not participating in the madness is hardly derogatory.

"All that lemming does is stand on the edge!"

Try again.  No, don't.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:21 | 1932261 Colonel
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Screw you wanker POS.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:14 | 1932359 Chingalay
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""stupid animals"  relative to what?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:37 | 1931798 azusgm
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Network with your like-minded neighbors and get prepared to vote each other in as delegates on the precinct level. That is how you latch on to power without having great wealth. Be prepared for some face to face confrontation with members of the Republican political machine.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:58 | 1931897 I Got Worms
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Excellent post - my across the street neighbor and I are doing exactly this in Austin.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:40 | 1931807 trav7777
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The public schools system WORKS WELL for whites and asians!  Among industrial nations, if you exclude blacks and hispanics, we have the 3rd highest scores.  If you exclude blacks and hispanics, nearly ALL of our socioeconomic indicators rise to THE TOP of the world!

Why is it that you people CANNOT take the mental risk of rejecting the MSM's message on subjects such as this???  WTF is the matter with you?  You say that the schools system just indoctrinates kids with propaganda and race equality IS ONE OF THE things they drum HARDEST in the schools!

One would ASSUME that you people would make a prima facie conclusion that THIS TOO is probably also propaganda, yet you do exactly the OPPOSITE.  You not only defend but REINFORCE it; castigating anyone who dares question the fucking premise at all!

I cannot for the life of me understand how you idiots REJECT water from this "MSM" well as contaminated on so many topics, but in this one particular one, you CHUG THE BUCKET of it.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:46 | 1931831 tmosley
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lol, sure, but the other nations have to keep counting their own welfare queens.

Your hate makes you stupid.  This is a good thing for the world.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:56 | 1932258 GCT
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Tmosley the commentator is correct. I know facts are hard to digest.  Just like the MSM likes to mock Texas's education system but when the hispanics are stripped out of the equation in Texas and other states Texas wins and has better scores on these stupid tests.  I do not live in Texas but I do accept facts even though the previous commentator is caustic. 

Herein lies the problem when facts are presented most simply ignore them and call people names.  Go check the statistics yourself and you will find the same facts.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:20 | 1932793 trav7777
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THAT IS PRECISELY HOW all-white nations like Norway are at the top every year.  They DO NOT HAVE blacks and hispanics as 25% of their population causing their violent crime rates to be more than quadruple what they would otherwise be nor dragging down their average scores and achievement levels in schools.

Blacks at EVERY INCOME GROUP trail whites in the same group in average SAT scores by 140 points.  Again, IN EVERY INCOME GROUP.  Rich black kids score as well as POOR white kids.  You can very easily look this shit up.

As far as crime goes, blacks commit homicide at 10x the rate of whites.  One group of 5% of the population commits more than half the crime.  Hispanics commit the lion's share of the remainder.  In an integrated city like NYC, well in excess of 90% of the homicides and shootings were by these TWO GROUPS.  The numbers of them committed by asians or whites was almost statistically NEGLIGIBLE.

I have no HATE, you fucking RETARD.  In fact, no sooner do I say what I say than YOU SHOW UP to not only DEFEND, but REINFORCE the MSM message of racial equality.

You can either trust the MSM on this or you can trust the DATA and your lyin' eyes.  I find it ODD that so many of you can't get through a paragraph without blasting the MSM for having a propaganda agenda and being nothing but prevaricators and yet, ON THIS ONE TOPIC, you not only say they speak the truth, but you go even further to excoriate ANYONE who questions it.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:47 | 1931838 my puppy for prez
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The whole educational system needs to "go down", too.  It is proven to be a globalist/communist/Agenda 21 indoctrination mind-control Tavistock dehumanizing prison system.

The only way to "return to America's greatness" is to destroy the current "education" system and allow free individuals to create TRUE education.  I have learned more in my 5 year self-education than I learned in all of my years of INDOCTRINATION!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:24 | 1932805 trav7777
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but then people wouldn't believe in racial equality and we cannot have that.

Freedom would be the right or ability to admit the real, as opposed to the wished.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 03:05 | 1934125 Matt
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"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." - George Orwell, 1984.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:50 | 1932207 General Debility
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Trouble is he'd be blamed and demonized for the systemic failure by the O'Reilly's and well the entire Mainstream forest.
That's if he didn't have a sodium-morphate apple-pie heart attack first.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:33 | 1931774 mayhem_korner
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Ron Paul is the only sane voice in the chorus of global madness.


Umm...not really.  He isn't the only sane voice, he just happens to have a particular platform and stands out because he is surrounded by drones.  But irrespective of how correct he may be, I don't think it's a particularly far-reaching voice because it emanates from within the system.  Paul makes for a nice hero, but I think it's misplaced to marvel at him as a solution. 

Again, irrespective of how correct he may be, he's not going to be the next President.  He's not shaped any legislation that actually gets passed.  The fact is that things have gotten markedly worse since he's been a Congressman.  Is that his fault?  Of course not.  But it gets to the heart of whether he can be anything but a sane voice.

Just my two cents...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:50 | 1931848 my puppy for prez
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Why do you think he can't get any legislation passed? Huh?

Answer:  Because the entire Congress is a bunch of bitches for the New World Order and a traitor of the Constitution.

What do you want?  For him to gain "consensus" and compromise his principles simply to get an f-ing bill passed?

Ever heard of the Hegelian Dialectical Process?  That's your homework for tonight!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:09 | 1931914 mayhem_korner
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Settle down, dawg.  If you want to solve the problem, follow your own advice (see your 'Answer') and work on replacing the people around him.  That has a higher probability of success than wishing Paul into the Presidency.

Sorry for being truthful and practical. 

BTW, I'm sure you're aware that the first record of Hegelian Dialectic occurred during Paul's second missionary journey, as recorded in the book of Acts.  Might be interesting for you to review how Paul and Philo dealt with the Sophists.  :D

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:39 | 1932571 my puppy for prez
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I can only "solve the problem" of Congress in the smallest of ways, restricted to my own district.  Others would have to participate in this "change", but unfortunately, the electorate is extremely ignorant of the true principles of liberty.

Glad to see you know your Dialectic info!  I will be honest that I did not think about Paul's interaction with the sophists (Acts 17) in that way.  Of course,  I am sure they had quite the lively discussion in Athens.  I know he tried to appeal to their form of philosophy...trying to "speak their language".  He was only partially successful.

Touche, Mr. Smarty Pantz.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 23:31 | 1933738 pops
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Actually, Paul has a very good chance of defeating Obama IF he wins the GOP nomination.  His huge, passionate support base combined with the GOP faithful should be more than sufficient to unseat the current occupant.  Without his support base, the GOP has no chance with any of the "top tier" ruptured ducks they parade as candidates and the big O is virtually assured a second term.

It's all a matter of just how bad the GOP wants Obama gone.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:40 | 1931803 Schmuck Raker
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@ Redpill, NO TRUE!

"Rick Perry Statement On The Fed's Bailout Of Europe: "Me Too""
Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:19 | 1934673 Deo vindice
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Ron Paul is the only sane voice in the chorus of global madness.

Well, over in Britain, they have Nigel Farage of the United Kingdom Independence Party.

If you haven't yet, watching some of his speeches on You Tube are worth your time.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:36 | 1931622 TruthInSunshine
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I have my Dow 12000 hat (purchased in 1999) and my Ron Paul hat out.

Which one should I embrace and wear?

The Dow 12000 hat is frayed and shabby looking from being put on and taken off so many times, and it reeks of rat & cockroach infested garbage (the kind found in the dark recesses that lurk within allegedly grandiose Manhattan skyscrapers).

The Ron Paul hat looks just purchased, despite being quite old, and has an aroma to it reminiscent of [m]ayflowers, freedom and rationality.


*Ron Paul - One of the select few, and possibly only, legislator in the modern era who has remained steadfastly respectful of  the Constitution of the United States as the ultimate check on government expansion, the concept that the United States is a Republic that is governed by law based on Constitutional principles & Constitutional RIGHTS of the citizenry, and not the varying opinions or decrees of men, and that the government is to be retrained, and not empowered, by our Constitution. Whatever one thinks of particular opinions Dr. Paul holds, it can not be denied that he forms his votes based not on popular sentiment of the time or corrupt lobbyist/corporate/MIC/CronyKleptocratic influence (or even his own personal, individualistic beliefs), but rather, he forms his votes based on an objective analysis of what our Constitution either states or does not state (and speaking of 'states,' Ron Paul is all for the federalist notion that states should be far more free of federal mandates, also consistent with the Constitution).

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:36 | 1931458 Henry Chinaski
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I have been following RP media blackout.  Compared to most major news outlets, I think NPR has given RP decent coverage.  If you are only looking at internet news, you will notice most of the RP coverage is on small fringe news outlets.  The major outlets cover him in their second tier blogs, but rarely in their main page or in print.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:43 | 1931819 trav7777
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Shit like stormfront is "fringe" when it's RP, fringe = good, MSM = bad, but when it is race-related, fringe = bad, MSM = good?

Got it.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:15 | 1931996 Henry Chinaski
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You lost me trav.  Maybe fringe wasn't the right term. 

It seems to me that people who only consume MSM get negligible Ron Paul exposure even though you find plenty of RP coverage on the web if you are looking for it

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:24 | 1932062 tmosley
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Boy, you sure are stretching it today.

What's wrong, a darkie step on your new Keds or something?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:51 | 1933116 trav7777
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if by that you mean I am fucking two black chicks, then yeah, "darkie stepped on my keds."

See, I have no hate.  I treat individuals as individuals.

I know that people like you are simply not intelligent enough to do this.  DO NOT WORRY, I am not going to genocide anyone.  I know that you would, and stupid people like you have brains that are incapable of holding more than TWO possible outcomes.

I can find a solution point in between murder them all and do nothing.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:51 | 1932219 Bring the Gold
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Holy shit Trav "Stormfront" fucking really?! REALLY?!!!! Wow, just wow. Not sure how you can be so on the mark about so many things and then just stupidly racist. Your pap about race essentialism above is bullshit. If you rearrange those stats by health and wealth of individuals a truer picture emerges. Poor white trash is just as uneducated as poor black people. Environmental (eg dumping grounds for waste like east at Louis) and structural rascism explain the numbers you are pointing at far better than your racist essentialism. It's all about structural poverty and related health and educational opportunities, along with cultural values and legacies not melanin count you jackass. If you want to argue cultural values you might have a point but race is meaningless.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:59 | 1932273 MsCreant
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Living up to your screen name.


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:18 | 1932404 Bring the Gold
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Coming from one of the original badass posters from the "junk" days means a lot. Thanks.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:32 | 1932842 trav7777
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Fuck you too, then.

You fuckers back your shit up with some evidence.  Back it up.

Don't tell me we're all equal, prove it.

I can point you directly to EMPIRICAL STUDIES where blacks trail whites in every income group by around 140 on the SAT.  Blacks who earn 200k+ per year, their kids trail whites in the same income group by 140 points.  They score about as well as POOR whites.

Everything you believe is WRONG.

Let me ask you something, Ms....just exactly WHERE WAS IT and on WHAT BASIS did you come to CONCLUDE these things that you believe?  It sure as fuck didn't come from studying any data.

It came from the MSM's narrative on this topic.  And, like I said before, YOU GULP THE BUCKET while in your next breath claiming these mfers are nothing but LIARS on everything they say, nothing but poison water.

It is as I said the first time, you people exist in a state of cognitive dissonance.  You refuse the red pill; in fact you're like if Neo got a gun out and SHOT the mfer for even suggesting that his world wasn't real.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:28 | 1932826 trav7777
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Then why do POOR WHITE KIDS score as well as rich blacks on the SAT, idiot?  You are WRONG.  Demonstrably, provably WRONG.  You parrot the MSM's message on inequality.  One that is used to justify a MASSIVE welfare state.

You'll wake the fuck up when you figure out that crime causes poverty, not the converse.  To be more accurate it is the same inherent attributes which lead to both.

I honestly have no clue wtf is on Stormfront because I don't read that website; I only used it to kick up dust.

Melanin  God knows why they have race-categorized drug trials then, huh?  THANK GOD you are here to set the biologists straight. 


All you have is an echo chamber and a NARRATIVE.  Give me some data.  Go find it for me.  Find me the breakdown of scholastic achievement across races and income gaps.

Better yet, DON'T; you won't like what you find.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 21:33 | 1933430 Bring the Gold
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Links and make them credible. Sorry but Neo-nazi sites like Stormfront won't do. You were the one who threw that bullshit out not I. Since you made the assertion about blacks being worse regardless of socioeconomic status the burden of proof lies at your feet.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:39 | 1931473 whstlblwr
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Wife told me same thing that NPR still black list of Paul. I sent them note before I stop listening.

Today Rasmussen shows Gingrich can beat Obama in general. And we fell of turnip truck. Rasmussen. Their poll numbers come out the way they want every time. It's amazing.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:44 | 1931505 end da fed
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i agree. my dh called me one day a few months ago and asked if RP had dropped out of the race. i asked why. he said that he had listened to NPR the entire day and they were talking about the GOP presidential candidates in an upcoming debate and they hadn't mentioned Dr. Paul once.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:45 | 1931827 trav7777
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2 things:  Rasmussen polls true

2nd, don't listen to ANYTHING out of the MSM.  Don't cherrypick the shit you LIKE from them and assume IT is true while the stuff you don't like is false.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:50 | 1932211 whstlblwr
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Rasmussen is crap, look at track record.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:33 | 1932850 trav7777
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uh...he's been dead-on balls calling every election, far as I have seen.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:06 | 1931620 Things that go bump
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I'd never consider voting for that buffoon.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:10 | 1931634 stacking12321
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and which buffoon would you consider voting for?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:27 | 1932078 Things that go bump
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I would prefer Ron Paul, no buffoon, at least, but I don't believe he has any hope of getting the nomination.  If he makes a 3rd party run, he might be able to split things just enough to ensure Obama's reelection - perish the thought. All in all, the Republicans are offering up a pretty poor choice, nobody really first class. I wonder why.  Mitt Romney is at least presentable, though his religion is quite unacceptable (not to mention ridiculous) and he is an also ran.  I don't suppose it really matters, as it will be meet the new boss, same as the old boss.  

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:02 | 1933141 whstlblwr
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Rasmussen dead on balls? You have bias, and you're troll. Obviously your comments not to be trusted.

"Rasmussen's polls were the least accurate of the major pollsters in 2010, having an average error of 5.8 points and a pro-Republican bias of 3.9 points.

Example the Hawaii Senate Race, in which Rasmussen showed the incumbent 13 points ahead, although in actuality Inouye won by 53[24] – a difference of 40 points, or "the largest error ever recorded in a general election in FiveThirtyEight’s database, which includes all polls conducted since 1998".

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:17 | 1931689 whstlblwr
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You mean Gingrich. He's buffoon, for sure. I don't understand support. It's obvious to all of us that Dick's Tea Party is status quo and they need their bail out.

Hey Dick, how come you don't support Ron Paul, he's not conservative enough for you? needs to cheat more on taxes, Americans, and wife for you to give him support?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:36 | 1931787 Freddie
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Most conservatives with a brain hate Global Warming Newt and Mitt. Mark Steyn was filling in for Rush yesterday. I flipped in on for a second. He was making fun of Gingrich.

I think the morons who dismiss Paul:

1. Have no clue about the evil Fed. 2, Want to keep fighting endless wars in the ME & for the defense industry.   3. Oppose ending all aid to ALL countries.  

Iran threat is to Israel and the Saudis as the Saudis are Sunni.  Israel and Saudi Arabia are a lot closer than people realize.  Let their kids go fight Iran.  We are in the ME mainly to protect the Saudis.  F the House of Saud.  You stop terrorism at your borders. Something open borders Newt does not want to do.


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:56 | 1931888 my puppy for prez
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It's not amazing when you know that Tavistock Institute invented polling NOT to "report public opinion" but to "shape public opinion".

What is the Tavistock Institute's goal?  The move to global government!

Where did Tavistock originate? was formerly called Wellington House.  Land of modern was transported to the US in the early 1900's using Bernays and Lippman in order to get America to go along with the WW's.

Screw Tavistock....they are EVIL!!!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:10 | 1931968 Cadavre
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Is this another Woodrow Wilson moment? To para-cite Benjamin Freeman speech at Sweet Liberty dot org - WWI Americans were for Germany and against the UK and the Federal Reserve Act. England was about to sign a "gentleman's" surrender to Germany (as if WWI had never happened). Then the gypsies show up at Balfour followed by dispatching minion Chief Justice William Brandeis, to deliver the black male note (to Wilson) followed by the UK snubbing Germany's "term less gentleman's" surrender and Wilson committing our ancestors to WWI and the establishment of the War Usury, the FED.

Regarding Ron Paul and the gaggle of diluting puppets the prime time debates surround Dr. Paul with: The problem may be due to the unmentioned fact that too many American males spent way too much time playing with their sisters' Ken and Barbie dolls. And therefore, prefer dickless Ken Doll Jaw Lines to real the thing. Anybody notice that Obamba waited until Diebold Machines declared him the primary winner before he disavowed Reverend Wright? Or .. did he do that after Hilary loaned him her Israeli Empire Aero, Inc. maintained Air West plane that almost crashed with the Obamba aboard?

Song Bird Big Daddy McCain's new Defense Bill authorizes the military to arrest, without due process, any American labeled a terror suspect. Did the girlie boys in the sinate ever stop and think that what they really did was authorized a military coup? Like SIGNED THEIR OWN ARREST WARRANTS? Did not see a Directive 5 that forbade military arests of sinators congressman presidents judges and K-Street Kiddie Brothel pimps.

.. so it goes

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:48 | 1932197 Uchtdorf
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You should post more often.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:51 | 1932220 General Debility
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He's a cadavre, he can't.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 01:40 | 1934000 Uchtdorf
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Cadavers in Chicago vote all the time so I don't see why he can't post more frequently.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:42 | 1931492 konputa
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Troll Magnet, I agree. I've stopped listening. I am also a former member.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:12 | 1931648 aerojet
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The only winning move is not to play--don't vote, either. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:45 | 1931496 divide_by_zero
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Why would Soros allow one of his progressive media outlets like NPR to give RP undue coverage?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:47 | 1931837 trav7777
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oh, but ClusterFox is giving him coverage too?

Again, don't believe SHIT from the MSM.  They are a very TIGHT circle of cousins who control the levers of media.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:26 | 1932070 TheFourthStooge-ing
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trav7777 correctly noted that:

oh, but ClusterFox is giving him coverage too?

Again, don't believe SHIT from the MSM.  They are a very TIGHT circle of cousins who control the levers of media.

This is absolutely true. Whether the labels say "liberal" or "conservative", they all focus on the same wedge issues and all scurry after the same "big story" distractions. Their behavior is remarkably synchronized and skillfully choreographed. Fox News and MSNBC are functionally equivalent, as are Rush Limbaugh and Rachel Maddow. Anyone that can't see that is just a kool-aid drinking dupe, and anyone that won't see that is just a kool-aid serving shill.


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:08 | 1931631 JPM Hater001
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I listened to Rush Limbaugh last Wednesday after the dabate and he never mentioned Paul.  He mentioned every other candidate.

I hate rush now.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:28 | 1931755 Sweet Chicken
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How the hell could you ever like that piece of shit in the first place?! Dear god I can't believe people actually listen to that racist bigot and believe anything he says. Come to thing of it I hate you now.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:48 | 1931842 trav7777
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fuck you mudshark.

Rush is a fatass plutocrat enabler, btw, and I think he ought to be eaten by an alligator.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:22 | 1932039 Normalcy Bias
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This is a public service message for other ZH readers.


A white woman that dates black men, usually because of low self-esteem.
After being beaten up and turned-out again by Rufus, Cindy realized there is a down side to being a mudshark.

Thanks for the laugh, Trav!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:58 | 1931900 my puppy for prez
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I've hated Rush for a LONG time now....what a total bag of excrement...a total bitch for the banksters and military-industrial complex!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:19 | 1931690 Freddie
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NPR is a lib Dem DNC propaganda machine.  I don't like ANY TV or any news in the USA cause it is all propaganda including Fox.  Only retards who enable & enpower the elites watch TV.   I laugh at the retards here who watch CNBC or Bloomberg or Fox Business cause they are sheep feeding the NWO machine.

F**king serfs paying to be serfs each month when they pay for cable.  Ron Paul is the only hope.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:35 | 1931750 TruthInSunshine
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If you ever listen to NPR's Marketplace segement at 6 pm est, with Kyle Risdall, I promise you that you'd feel a mere one step (and a small step at that) removed from the sell-side, bloviating bullshit peddled on cnBSc.

Manhattan is the new Bailout/Welfare/Chosen Queen of the United States. It's literally as if the MSM is brainwashing the populace into believing equity marketeers, bond salesmen, mutual funds, hedge hog funds & all the rest of the world of those brilliant financial engineers support the economic health and vitality of the nation, when in reality, they're actually the parasitic hosts that have weakened the nation to the point of near death - bribing legislators to subsidize them with the taxdollars of the very people they're killing.

They had better hope they can find another hospitable host upon which to fasten their lamprey-like mouths, or else they will find themselves dying of starvation before too long.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:41 | 1931810 Freddie
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F all propaganda media including and especially NPR. Stop supporting any of those lying f***s.  I would rather come here and have you junk me all day long than to spend one second listening to NPR, CNN, FOx, Disney/ABC, CBS, Jon Stewart or any of those other lying AH's.  Forget about even mentioning the scum at CNBC, Bloomberg or FBN.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:32 | 1932106 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You can actually make a decent point when you're not obsessed with "the muslim".

By the way, Rush Limbaugh is a member of the same media club you listed and is being paid by the same puppeteers.


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:53 | 1932232 Freddie
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What is amazing is no one questions these wars anymore?  The left has no problem with them cause they love the muslim.   The right loves them because we gotta win or we are not supporting the military.  That lefty whore and polictial ex-soldier Colin Powell says nothing.  Years ago he said have an exit strategy for a war.

Now we are supposed to stay there forever to protect the House of Saud in a 1300+ year old war between Sunni and Shia muslims.  We are in the Balkans protecting the Muslims and the drug supply route from Afghanistan to Europe.  Clinton started that sh*t.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:03 | 1932298 Freddie
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Is Ron Paul the only one who questions these wars anymore? The insane spending on everything?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:32 | 1931771 New American Re...
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They won't do anything, their marching orders are the same for all mass media,... ie. Ron Paul Who?    Wait until he starts winning primary's and they try stuffing the ballot boxes, and once he wins, he'd better confine his travel to a bus caravan, because if he takes to the air, they WILL SHOOT HIM DOWN AND KILL HIM.   They did the same to Bobby Kennedy when he won California and clinched the Democratic Primary, and essentially, the White House.   They just killed him right away.   Don't think it will be any different for Ron Paul.   Our biggest problem will be in keeping him alive.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:01 | 1931912 my puppy for prez
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That makes me feel like crying....but I know you're right.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:00 | 1931904 narapoiddyslexia
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Troll Magnet - I've heard NPR do a number of pieces on Ron Paul. They also cover his campaign on their web site.

See this link.

I'm no NPR junkie, but there's not much else out here in the cultural wasteland but that grossly fat neocon bastard on the radio who always supports the banks. Forgot his name.


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:13 | 1932338 Freddie
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All the media is absolute sh*t.  NRP is as bad as anything.  Probably worse.  The f**king fake left gives Obama the Nobel Peace prize for his 6 wars while NPR was attacking Bush for 2.  You people are saps if you think any of the media is worthwhile. 

I do think the UK Telegraph newspaper is the closest because most of the readers posting on the blogs have the same contempt for politicians.

Junk me all day but I will respect you 10x more than those sh*ts on TV or the radio.  The business networks are the worst ones.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:03 | 1931919 JustObserving
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NPR is also known as National Pentagon Radio.  Ron Paul is against wars in general.  NPR will fade him.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:20 | 1932420 Freddie
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The joke is NPR hated Bush's two wars but says jack shit about the nobel prize winners six wars.    Ron paul is the only one talking about the ENDLESS wars that are pointless.  

War, fighting and killing has been a Afghani occupation for what - 1,000 years?  Keep these people out of the country and off planes - problem solved.


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:23 | 1932054 Treason Season
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NPR = Nat'l Propaganda Radio

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:36 | 1932862 trav7777
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but they tell the truth when it comes to race, don't they?

In fact, few outlets push race issues harder in one direction than NPR, lining up guest after speaker to attribute persistent inequality to racism and to say poverty causes it.

But, they're truthful in that, right...?

How can you people believe that they are liars but that this is the ONE THING in which they are really being truthful?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:33 | 1932110 macfly
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Much of NPR's funding comes from the Rockerfeller funds, and since they are the principal owners/benefactors of the Fed system they won't let NPR break radio silence on Ron Paul. I have supported all my local NPR stations for years, but from this moment on Pacifica/KPFK is the only one I'll be supporting.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:34 | 1932116 macfly
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Much of NPR's funding comes from the Rockerfeller funds, and since they are the principal owners/benefactors of the Fed system they won't let NPR break radio silence on Ron Paul. I have supported all my local NPR stations for years, but from this moment on Pacifica/KPFK is the only one I'll be supporting.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:34 | 1932117 macfly
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Much of NPR's funding comes from the Rockerfeller funds, and since they are the principal owners/benefactors of the Fed system they won't let NPR break radio silence on Ron Paul. I have supported all my local NPR stations for years, but from this moment on Pacifica/KPFK is the only one I'll be supporting.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:51 | 1932222 spankthebernank
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I believe a former Disney exec runs the show there's your answer.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:28 | 1932485 FatFingered
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NPR - What a joke.  I get my daily humor from the accented, 'left-wing', war and police state propaganda over there.  I love the monthly money drives when they sucker locals into sending in bits of money, thinking their funding is all dried up, in between advertisements that the Bill and Linda Gates Foundation, the Brookings Institute, Soros, and other Oligarch's Foudations are the other charitable givers.  It is humorous and nauseating at the same time.  They try to keep us Ron Pauler callers off the air but we never cease to get through on nearly every subject.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:10 | 1933162 caconhma
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NPR is a fraudulent propaganda enterprise hiding under a disguise of as an independent and unbiased intellectual news agency.

In reality

·         It news programming are coming straight from BBC (UK government department of Propaganda)

·         NPR domestic & international programming and reviews are under strict control of Zionists, Israeli Mossad, and CIA

·         It actively & unquestionably promotes government agendas and policies specifically homosexuality, perversion, and justification of depriving US citizens from their civic rights

In other words, NPR is a Zionist & Neo-con enterprise masquerading itself as an independent and unbiased intellectual news agency.


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:12 | 1932345 johnu78
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Hasn't anyone figured out that this isn't a Republic or a Democracy anymore??? We're in a dictatorship and nothing short of a revolution is going to change that!!!



Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:04 | 1932967 Ponzified Plebe
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"It puts on the lotion or it gets the hose!"  - GS to the Fed

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:11 | 1931269 CPL
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It hasn't in the past what makes today any different.


I give up.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:44 | 1931506 Sunset chaser
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BAC is slowly working inexorably back down towards $5 again.

They could pump all the resources the country has into it, but if it isn't going to change and become a good company what difference does it make? None!!

Bernanke ought to be realizing this by now. The problem is how to dissolve or let the banks go with minimal systemic disruption. That's not going to be easy.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:44 | 1931508 Oh regional Indian
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Hey CPL, giving up is a good thing.

Give Up. Enlightening experience. Release.

It's being taken down that has people, well, down.



Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:50 | 1931537 topcallingtroll
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The cause of suffering is desire

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 14:58 | 1931574 madbuilder
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actually 'me and bobby mcgee' was written by kris kristofferson. 

not being picky but it is a quote, and i would hate to see the derivative version get the credit when the actual asset is ignored

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 16:08 | 1931957 kridkrid
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Didn't know that. Thanks!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:23 | 1932453 Freddie
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Kris Kristofferson = Rhodes Scholar.  I guess they let one good person in that shitty club.  Isn't Whitney Tilson a Rhodes Scholar?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:50 | 1931830 Dr. Acula
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>The cause of suffering is desire - Buddha

Yet Buddha did not have a catatonic, vegetative existence. Uttering that statement shows that even he was driven to act by felt uneasiness.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 15:55 | 1931879 slewie the pi-rat
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but did he jump every string?

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