Ron Paul Takes Lead In Iowa

Tyler Durden's picture

When we learned on Saturday that the Des Moines Register, owned by Gannett - whose Chairman just happens to be a Private Equity firm head, and worked at Citigroup for most of her career, has endorsed Mitt Romney for president we said that this development "while likely set to provide a very short-term boost to Romney's chances, it is the baseless ongoing accusations against Ron Paul that will likely solidify the groundswell behind the Texan, with such desperate platitudes as "Ron Paul's libertarian ideology would lead to economic chaos and isolationism, neither of which this nation can afford." As it turns out, according to the latest Public Policy Polling data we can skip the kneejerk reaction and go straight to the after effect, because as of the latest polling, Ron Paul has finally taken the lead in Iowa. Granted this is just one of many polling organizations, and potentially it may be biased, but the bottom line is that often time reality (objective and subjective) is self-reinforcing. And when the US public realizes that the only candidate who deserves to be in the White House has a running chance, they will flock to him. Suddenly backing Ron Paul may just become the next cool thing. As for the Gingrich "honeymoon", it was over well before the nth divorce (pardon the pun). At this point we can only hope that the electoral game of reverse American Idol where the poll head is voted off in a week or so stops with Paul. However, with Perry, Bachmann, Romney and Gingrich already having been voted off, the only possible dark horse now remains Huntsman - does he have a running chance against Paul?

From the PPP:

Newt Gingrich's campaign is rapidly imploding, and Ron Paul has now taken the lead in Iowa.  He's at 23% to 20% for Mitt Romney, 14% for Gingrich, 10% each for Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann, and Rick Perry, 4% for Jon Huntsman, and 2% for Gary Johnson.


Gingrich has now seen a big drop in his Iowa standing two weeks in a row.  His share of the vote has gone from 27% to 22% to 14%.  And there's been a large drop in his personal favorability numbers as well from +31 (62/31) to +12 (52/40) to now -1 (46/47). Negative ads over the last few weeks have really chipped away at Gingrich's image as being a strong conservative- now only 36% of voters believe that he has 'strong principles,' while 43% think he does not.


Paul's ascendancy is a sign that perhaps campaigns do matter at least a little, in a year where there has been a lot of discussion about whether they still do in Iowa.  22% of voters think he's run the best campaign in the state compared to only 8% for Gingrich and 5% for Romney. The only other candidate to hit double digits on that question is Bachmann at 19%. Paul also leads Romney 26-5 (with Gingrich at 13%) with the 22% of voters who say it's 'very important' that a candidate spends a lot of time in Iowa.  Finally Paul leads Romney 29-19 among the 26% of likely voters who have seen one of the candidates in person.


Paul's base of support continues to rely on some unusual groups for a Republican contest.  Among voters under 45 he's at 33% to 16% for Romney and 11% for Gingrich.  He's really going to need that younger than normal electorate because with seniors Romney's blowing him out 31-15 with Gingrich coming in 2nd at 18%. Paul is also cleaning up 35-14 with the 24% of voters who identify as either Democrats or independents. Romney is actually ahead 22-19 with GOP voters.  Young people and non-Republicans are an unusual coalition to hang your hat on in Iowa, and it will be interesting to see if Paul can actually pull it off.

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kato's picture

rotating nut jobs

Xkwisetly Paneful's picture

How long has the guy been a federal politician and how many pieces of legislature has he gotten passed actually limiting the power of the federal government.


I think a  long time and ZERO are the answers but I am not sure.

Mr Lennon Hendrix's picture

If Congress weren't a bunch of fascist asshats then maybe he would have had legislature that would have been made into law.  Unfortunately, Congress is paid of by K Street whores with corporate agendas and do not agree with Paul about funding wars like Iraq and Af/Pak, etc.

MillionDollarBonus_'s picture

Did you know that over 500 children die in firearm accidents every year? Support the progrEssivE rEvolution and end dangerous firearm sales with global legislation. What's your excuse?

TruthInSunshine's picture

<-- Government is too large

<-- Government is too small


whstlblwr's picture

South Carolina primary Jan. 21, talk to your friends in South Carolina to vote for Ron Paul, think deadline for registration is Dec. 21.

wanklord's picture

By appealing to tons of bullshit about the Constitution and other patriotic crap, Congressman Ron Paul is able to seduce his brute and ignorant constituency while doing nothing at all in Congress (a clever way to make easy money). He is just part of the establishment while behaving like a "genuine patriot." Dr. Paul is also a mediocre version of one of Leo Strauss' categories of society: the Gentlemen

The gentlemen, are lovers of honour and glory. They are the most ingratiating towards the conventions of their society – that is, the illusions of the cave. They are true believers in God, honour, and moral imperatives. They are ready and willing to embark on acts of great courage and self-sacrifice at a moment's notice.

Besides that, Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue. In the end, Ron Paul is just another political scam designed to keep entertained these mules.

whstlblwr's picture

Sorry, didn't read above post, so not reply to you.

Here is response on other blog from criticism of Ron Paul racism.

"I could help but notice that you only provide one side of Ron Paul's associations. Dr. Paul has been very close friends with the great Jewish economists Murray Sabrin, Walter Block. He knew Milton Friedman. He is friends with the noted African American economist Walter Williams. Its possible that he has received contributions from hate groups, but so what? Ron Paul stands for freedom or speech (no matter how vile) and states rights, which may coincide with these horrible groups. But does that mean Ron Paul pushes hate legislation? No, and these groups don't expect that. Contrast that to our current President. He has received contributions from Wall Street and Unions and government dependent groups and he has sold out the country and done their bidding. I would argue that is much more vile than receiving a piddling amount of money from a white supremacist.

BTW: Everyone show your support for Jay Leno. Let's get his rating up

Totin's picture

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Wow Wanklord! This really is fun. I think I got it! Thanks!

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

Totin, observing wanklord's pattern, accurately noted:

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You've noticed him too, huh? As far as I recall, this is the first time I've seen him use this particular screed. Usually it's the one where he erroneously refers to "dirty bombs" as controlled nuclear explosions. This has been pointed out to him with no effect, which indicates that he doesn't bother to read any follow up comments. With rare and trivial exceptions, his comments are prepared ahead of time and then copied and pasted wherever he thinks it's at least marginally relevant.

Articles about Ron Paul seem to be one of his big triggers, especially if the article illustrates Ron Paul's growing recognition among frustrated and angry voters. If wanklord is a paid shill or astroturfer, his employer is getting ripped off and must be rather dimwitted as well.


StychoKiller's picture

"Water Army" troops are everywhere -- fortunately, they're easy to spot, due to the concave skull on top of their shoulders.

sullymandias's picture

It seems that Ron Paul leading in this poll has really struck a nerve..

JeffB's picture

I do have to give you props for your honesty in picking out your username.


outofhere's picture

he could do me a favor and get the 'wank' out of here.  GO RP!!!

eureka's picture

Why is it so unthinkable - to the MM.PTB - that US should not be an Empire?  Because they make their "living" by leverage and lies. To the rest of the population Libertarianism seems increasingly exciting.

RE Huntsman - nice, diplomatic, academic, boring.  US isn't there.

Conclusion:  Believe in Ron.  He can win.  Spread the excitement.

Freedom could come to the US. If you work for it.


Mr Lennon Hendrix's picture

Guns should be out of reach of young children, and when the child is old enough to fire one, the parent should teach the child gun safety. 

Criminals will always have guns.  We need guns too.  Look at the London riots; if the store owners had had guns, that riot would not have lasted the day.  Instead it lasted several.

MillionDollarBonus_'s picture

The riots would not have occurred in the first place if the UK government had provided more welfare and job opportunities - the UK government is cutting spending too much and too fast, which is undermining their economy. Letting the public carry firearms is simply too dangerous, and the world is waking up to this.

Mr Lennon Hendrix's picture

"Letting the public..."

So who knows best?  The government?  Right....

"[M]ore welfare and job opportunities...."

If you make adults suck from the government's tit their whole lives, they don't really become adults.

r101958's picture

Exactly! And this little tidbit:

'Paul's ascendancy is a sign that perhaps campaigns do matter at least a little'

Riiiiggght! How about this instead 'Paul's ascendancy is a sign that perhaps integrity and policy stances do matter, a lot'. Sheeesh!

CptAwesome's picture

Imagine we would all be servants of the queen had our fore fathers thought the way you do. Keep people weak and unable to protect themselves that's a brilliant idea! If you prefer living in a progressive dictatorship there are plenty out there you can move to and leave us redneck freedom loving red blooded american's alone.

aerojet's picture

Other than near universal gun ownership, the US is every bit the same dependent, emasculated bunch of ignoramuses as the Europeans.  The US is barely any different from say, France when it comes to corporatism and welfare statism.  Rednecks are just as bad or worse than progressive types.  It takes more than being "freedom-loving"--you have to be a hell of a lot less ignorant, too.  We've had nothing but horrible executive leadership in the US, even Reagan was really a turd if you consider Iran/Contra--not one principled statesman.  Ron Paul might be principled, but it is just so hard to believe that this guy could ever win, and even if he won, would he really be able to change anything meaningful?  It would piss off too many bankers, too many defense industry billionaires, too many litigious attorneys and their clients, too many welfare queens.

Nope, only a total collapse will right the ship at this point.  And that collapse brings with it tons of its own baggage.

JeffB's picture

"and even if he won, would he really be able to change anything meaningful?  It would piss off too many bankers, too many defense industry billionaires, too many litigious attorneys and their clients, too many welfare queens.

Nope, only a total collapse will right the ship at this point.  And that collapse brings with it tons of its own baggage."

Perhaps you are right, but I wouldn't give up so easily. At least we need to give him a chance. Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

One big problem with wanting total collapse and a revolution to bring us to the Promised Land is that it so seldom works out that way. It usually ends up in murder, misery & horrible hardship before it finally stabilizes under a brutal dictator.


Ryman1075's picture

Are you serious Shill?

Welfare and reckless spending are what are ruining countries (Europe as a whole and the US).  It is a simple fact that when faced with a strong opponent or a weak one, a criminal will go after the weak one (unarmed one).

Hugh G Rection's picture

MDB- Your trolling is a little too obvious

au_bayitch's picture

Fuck You and your million dollar bonus with a 12ga straight up your cunt.'s picture

Government kills far more than 500 children each year. So far the government has been content with tasering and groping kids on American soil but overseas the government straifs and bombs children everyday. The government used a missile to intentionally kill a 16 year old American citizen living overseas. Asking the government to protect kids is like asking Jerry Sandusky to babysit for you.

aerojet's picture

Oh please.  Spend a day in Guatemala or Nicaragua and then tell me about how bad you have it in the states.

Better_late_than_never's picture

Did you know that over 500 children die in automobile accidents every year? Support the progrEssivE rEvolution and end dangerous automobile sales with global legislation. What's your excuse?

my puppy for prez's picture

Did you know that the government kills FAR MORE than 500 children each year by:

  • vaccinations
  • allowing food to be toxic
  • support of big pharma
  • encouraging welfar/warfare state which kills people's bodies AND souls
  • chemtrailing/weather modification
  • ethanol subsidies promoting food fuel that jacks grain $ up harming the poor's ability to buy food
  • enabling evil bankers

Much bigger problems than guns, don't you think?

TruthInSunshine's picture

Our benevolent government actively markets (I didn't say "allows to be marketed" - critical) toxins, poisons and hazards of all kinds to American Children.

As just one example of the above, think about U.S. Government subsidies for corn farmers, and how this has allowed for a situation that high fructose corn syrup (now renamed 'corn sugar' by the marketing demons) can be produced for a fraction of the cost of sugar, and therefore HFCS makes its way in increasingly high amounts into thousands of food products, as the government is essentially incentivizing manufacturers of food products to utilize it - so maybe that could have SOMETHING to do with the fact that 1 out of 3 Americans is either in the pre-diabetic stage or GROWS UP TO BE DIABETIC!

Wow! That's like....a serious disease that can be fatal....and where like...people have to have amputations....and where like...U.S. taxpayers and private consumers of health care have their taxes/costs driven up, as 25 million Americans now have diabetes and 79 million Americans have pre-diabetes (who are now likely to develop diabetes)***, which will cost TRILLIONS in direct health care and other economic costs.

But 500 children a year die from accidental firearm related incidents (this is tragic, but let's put it in proper perspective against the millions of kids who have or will develop diabetes as a direct contributory result of eating government subsidized HFCS).

Health and developmental problems, causing tens of thousands of deaths and tens of billions of dollars to be expended, on a yearly basis, year after year after year, sponsored in large part by ACTIVE GOVERNMENTAL POLICIES, FTW.


***Diabetes affects 25.8 million people of all ages
8.3 percent of the U.S. population

***An estimated 79 million American adults ages 20 years or older have pre-diabetes.


my puppy for prez's picture

Not to mention fluoride and GMO's!  

We live in a land of toxic soup!

ALSO....did you know that HFCS has been found to contain heavy metals such as mercury and aluminum?

And then they have the nerve to thuggishly swat team raid raw milk dairies and organic food can't make this stuff up!

HileTroy's picture

Ok after reading MDB for serveral weeks he gets my vote for the best sarcasam and he dont ever use <sarc>  U rock MDB your post are too funny!!!

Libertarian777's picture

MDB, while i know a lot of your posts are just meant to get a rise out of zh readers my fear is that i know there are a LOT of people who actually have the belief system you espouse here. I would appreciate your rebuttle.

Every year an average of 10 people drown a day. 2 of whom are children. Or roughly 700 children. So swimming pools kill more children then guns every year. Given that there are 8.6m pools in the usa and 200 million guns, swimming pools are 16 times more deadly than a firearm. Why are you not running an anti-swimming pool campaign?

Now this exact same fear mongering is used for war propoganda and for 'terrorism'. Again more americans die in swimming pools (3500) every year than were killed on sep 11.

JeffB's picture

More innocent human beings are deliberately killed in the U.S. every day than were killed in 911 with full government support. In fact, our U.S. Supreme Court has thrown out all states' laws banning that ongoing, often brutal slaughter.

We would have to have a 911 event every single day of the year, including New Years, Mother's Day, Father's Day, Independence Day, Christmas etc. and then have a quadruple finale at the end of the year to bring the death toll high enough to equal the carnage of abortion on demand, just so we could start fresh for the New Year...


Hobbleknee's picture

Did you know 1,500 children die in care accidents every year?


Troll Magnet's picture

AMAZING how all the MSMers are either A) talking about Kim Jong Il's demise or B) how Gingrich is slipping (as opposed to RP surging) or C) Romney's big endorsements and how he's gaining in Iowa.

Oh far will these assholes go to NOT talk about Ron Paul?

fourchan's picture

lol we will not be ignored.

FMR Bankster's picture

The longer they ignore him the better. As soon as they turn their attention to him it will be ugly. He'll be called a racist nut who can't wait to unplug granny from her health care. He needs to pick up enough momentum before the onslaught begins. I've mentioned a few times here that he will win in Iowa. (I live there)This is the first poll (even though PPP is known as a liberal leaning organization)that properly has figured out that without a Democratic caucus there will be more independents voting in The Republican caucus as well as a modest number of young disaffected Democrats.

grid-b-gone's picture

Headline when Ron Paul wins the nomination.. "Romney and Gingrich Look to 2016"