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Ron Paul Takes Lead In Iowa
When we learned on Saturday that the Des Moines Register, owned by Gannett - whose Chairman just happens to be a Private Equity firm head, and worked at Citigroup for most of her career, has endorsed Mitt Romney for president we said that this development "while likely set to provide a very short-term boost to Romney's chances, it is the baseless ongoing accusations against Ron Paul that will likely solidify the groundswell behind the Texan, with such desperate platitudes as "Ron Paul's libertarian ideology would lead to economic chaos and isolationism, neither of which this nation can afford." As it turns out, according to the latest Public Policy Polling data we can skip the kneejerk reaction and go straight to the after effect, because as of the latest polling, Ron Paul has finally taken the lead in Iowa. Granted this is just one of many polling organizations, and potentially it may be biased, but the bottom line is that often time reality (objective and subjective) is self-reinforcing. And when the US public realizes that the only candidate who deserves to be in the White House has a running chance, they will flock to him. Suddenly backing Ron Paul may just become the next cool thing. As for the Gingrich "honeymoon", it was over well before the nth divorce (pardon the pun). At this point we can only hope that the electoral game of reverse American Idol where the poll head is voted off in a week or so stops with Paul. However, with Perry, Bachmann, Romney and Gingrich already having been voted off, the only possible dark horse now remains Huntsman - does he have a running chance against Paul?
From the PPP:
Newt Gingrich's campaign is rapidly imploding, and Ron Paul has now taken the lead in Iowa. He's at 23% to 20% for Mitt Romney, 14% for Gingrich, 10% each for Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann, and Rick Perry, 4% for Jon Huntsman, and 2% for Gary Johnson.
Gingrich has now seen a big drop in his Iowa standing two weeks in a row. His share of the vote has gone from 27% to 22% to 14%. And there's been a large drop in his personal favorability numbers as well from +31 (62/31) to +12 (52/40) to now -1 (46/47). Negative ads over the last few weeks have really chipped away at Gingrich's image as being a strong conservative- now only 36% of voters believe that he has 'strong principles,' while 43% think he does not.
Paul's ascendancy is a sign that perhaps campaigns do matter at least a little, in a year where there has been a lot of discussion about whether they still do in Iowa. 22% of voters think he's run the best campaign in the state compared to only 8% for Gingrich and 5% for Romney. The only other candidate to hit double digits on that question is Bachmann at 19%. Paul also leads Romney 26-5 (with Gingrich at 13%) with the 22% of voters who say it's 'very important' that a candidate spends a lot of time in Iowa. Finally Paul leads Romney 29-19 among the 26% of likely voters who have seen one of the candidates in person.
Paul's base of support continues to rely on some unusual groups for a Republican contest. Among voters under 45 he's at 33% to 16% for Romney and 11% for Gingrich. He's really going to need that younger than normal electorate because with seniors Romney's blowing him out 31-15 with Gingrich coming in 2nd at 18%. Paul is also cleaning up 35-14 with the 24% of voters who identify as either Democrats or independents. Romney is actually ahead 22-19 with GOP voters. Young people and non-Republicans are an unusual coalition to hang your hat on in Iowa, and it will be interesting to see if Paul can actually pull it off.
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You're right. My apologies to Freddie.
What I want I get; I must have some 33rd parallel blood in my veins, maybe a super nova strain. I'll have to consult a druid, a shaminist or an Indian soufi. How much would I get paid for predicting he gets repub nomination? I only take pinot noir or chardonnay in payment; by the bucket!
You've missed the easy money, but he's still only at 8.4%
http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=669534
For real fun, short the rest of them as the circus plays out one clown at a time.
I'll go all in, 100 crates of champagne and a massive silver bottle bucket when he wins Iowa.
I believe long term Paul is the best we as a nation could hope for. I also believe that the claims by others that his policis will lead to economic calamity and isolationism are ridiculos, what the hell do we have now?
He is the best we can hope for.
BUT, if you were a Global Banker that wanted the status quo. What would you do once RP took office?
I would wait a month and then sink the whole ship. I am a huge RP fan, I just hope he has the gonads to wipe out the Central Banking cartel.
In order to do that, he will have to assert and expanded level of authority, which I am not convinced he will do.
Good, I'd like an actual election based on economics and reality. Not God and other crap. If the GOP actually nominated him, which still is a vast longshot, see God and other crap, we could actually talk about issues. The muppet circus that is going on now where pennies are discussed when hundreds are involved has to end.
The good news is that the Republic primaries are not winner take all, but rather cumulative. This is exactly teh way Barry beat Hillary in 2008. He came in 1st or 2nd and over time, he had more delegates. It is not a winner take all set up any longer. A better organized candidate has a true chance to beat the MSM designated 'front runner'.
Jeez I hope Paul continues this way and beats all of them up to and including Barry the Fake next November.
It's truly magnificent to behold. It must feel good to be Ron Paul and know that people are beginning to believe in you for YOU and your OWN actions, rather than the story you tell to people and hope they believe it because they don't know the facts (like the other politicians).
Every attack given to some other candidate has to be denied and redirected, but every attack people throw at Ron Paul he confirms and stands by, arguing why it is true.
That's a shockingly different approach and something that confounds most politicians.
I hope this sticks.
From the other side of the Atlantic, Ron Paul is, at least, consistent. Makes a change. Nor does he appear to employ a tidy hair combing specialist.
in the first year of a paul presidency, the fed charter matter would come up, i believe in 2013..............
a paul presidency would be fraught with personal danger for himself, as he and his actions would be anthema to so many powerful people.....
so , there is almost no chance for it to happen.......
HPD: On target, as usual.
The serfs can choose from any candidate "they" provide. Illusion of choice.
for myself. i love a fantasy. and paul says a lot of things that ring true to me. but then you juxtapose that fantasy against the harsh political realities of our time and what do we have then? reality coming in strong and forceful and as usual blowing my fantasy out of the water...
then you have these people.....
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=682
what are these people going to do? sit back and take it? they have been working while we have slept and they have been working for generations to accomplish this task they have before them. the job is almost complete. so , shall i assume they will pick up their marbles and go home , because they get pissed because the game is not going their way ? no i say they will adapt and improvise and one must conclude that they will head this problem or possible problem off at the pass, so to speak long before it truelty does become a problem......people have to understand. we live in a land of fairytales and bullshit.......nothing is as it seems.......it is truely the matrix.......
It's holiday time, why don't you stop being creepy, and do something positive, go pay off struggling layaway at KMART or something. I feel sorry for you.
shouldn't you be praying or something. why don't you go put on your teffelin phylacteries and face jerusalem and say 100 hale marry's or whatever and get off of my nutts....
we are talking about some very serious shit here and i don't have time replying to putz's ......
and no this is not holiday time numbnutts. its about as you might say the Man called JC ..........
go sell your bad fish somewhere else............duh???? :)
Only good thing about your posts, you're so creepy you help thing you hate.
well you are most assuredly entitled to your opinion. but tell me, besides trolling this thread , do you have anything intelligent to offer to the subject at hand? hmmm?
Yes...
THE YIDS ARE COMING TO GET YOU!
blower , i am just a soldier............i know you don't understand it, but that is all i am...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeuV-_QVO5M
I know soldiers, you are not a soldier. You are a loser, but you can change yourself. Make New Years Resolution.
I will not be creepy in 2012
Are you going to say something productive? If HPD is so absurd and hateful why don't you present something that would illustrate why he should be ignored.
I actually think RP is a good thing and even if the whole thing falls apart the exposure to corruption he presents is worth where ever it takes us.
I disagree with HPD's opinion on this but I do not see his views as creepy or even invalid. You (somethingblower) are showing your ignorance and simple-minded agenda.
LOL, you show us your agenda before racist asshole.
as i have said many times before blower, i am not into hate. hate takes up a lot of emotional distress, a time better spent on something else. what i am about is information and knowledge and understanding. what you don't like blower is that what i have to say, pisses you off because you don't like it when your people get criticized.............well that is too bad.
'real' zionist news is a parody . load the video -- he is a supposed Christian priest, dancing with the cross. mocking Jesus.
it truely ISNT the matrix. get your mind right. you don't have to hate anybody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dHUfy_YBps
a paul presidency would be fraught with personal danger for himself, as he and his actions would be anthema to so many powerful people.....
so , there is almost no chance for it to happen.......
He's just going to have to "take one for the team" if that's the case... Anyway, if something ever did happen along the lines of what you say... It would all but confirm any and all suspicions that bloggers on ZH have talked about for a long time (and that make them unpopular at cocktail parties)...
hey, the fuckin ahabs ousted several of their dictators; grow a pair
Ron Paul, gentlemen . He has become the topic of choice to discuss in my circle of friends & family . It's as tho people are just now discovering this man . It is his time.
I know life-long liberals who are starting to line up behind Ron Paul as the true anti-war, pro-civil liberties candidate.
People are so fed up with the status quo and false alternatives, that they're finally starting to see the light. Obama's presidency has been good for something, after all.
Not a 'life long liberal' but I remember when the Republic party left me. It started back shortly after Reagan was elected and promptly started going after the EPA. I happen to like clean water, etc... Then, progressively nuttier anti abortion positions. Finally, the complete and utter BIG corporate knob gobbling to the detriment of real humans. I just want the gov't to leave me alone, but Noooo! We've got to have sooper Jeebus, big military, police state Amerika instead. Well, eff that.
Barry had the opportunity at the beginning of his term to really shake things up. Millions of people had written to their congresscritter demanding Congress not bailout the banks. They did it anyway. Barry could have said (and acted) like a new sheriff in town. Instead, we got Shrub part 2.
I'm doubtful that even Mr. Paul can clean up these Auegan stables, but I'm willing to try. So yes, I'm more than willing to give Mr. Paul a chance. Good luck and godspeed sir.
Ron Paul wants Roe v. Wade abolished.
He is vehemently anti-chocie...under ANY cirsumstance.
It doesn't get much nuttier than that.
He wants smaller government. Just small enough to get under your bedroom door.
I realize that. Supposedly Barry is pro choice. However, he is as spineless as they come. I have zero confidence that Barry will in fact fight for abortion rights. On the other hand, Paul at least has some convictions. I'm willing to overlook this because by and large, he does not appear to be beholden to the banksters. I think the bigger issue facing the country right now is 1.) Defeat the banksters; 2.) Beat back the military-industrial complex; and 3.) Stop the police state now.
What is so "nutty" about simply wanting to preserve the natural rights of a PERSON whose only "crime" is to be held captive for 9 months underneath another human being's skin?
So a very small and helpless human being that is only 10 centimeters away from the light of day is less worthy of basic rights to life, liberty, and happiness than you?
Then it would follow that we should be able to kill our children at any point up until they are no longer dependent upon someone for the provision of their needs and hence survival....what age would that be....2, 5, 17 months and 364 days?
ruh roh, raggy
Ron Paul, not only the presidential candidate that completely understands the monetary system, but the ONLY candidate that has a clue about economics, must take leadership of the US. If Ron Paul is not in charge when hyperinflation hits, the US will likely be swallowed by an entitlement minded society and fascist government policy looking to control resources and businesses in an effort to “do something.”
TheSilverJournal.com
This is good for the country. If Paul pulls ahead elsewhere it will be a certainty that overt QE will start sooner than later because without it the economy will be so bad that the main man behind "End the Fed" will be in office.
Joy in Mudville - RP leads the way and Kim Jong is 86'd --- nice start to the macro political week.
Suck it Newt!
Newt Gingrich is the worst along with Huntsman. Newt's voting record in the house was a CFR/NWO/Bilderburger's dream. He is an anti-Constitutionalist. Gingrich acts professorial and talks about the Founders and The Constitution and then his actions are 180 degrees in the other direction. Tell your friends whatever they do - avoid Gingrich.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02HX5v5Thpk
I watched a few of these videos showing Gingrich voting record, etc. He is Pelosi and Obama-Lite. What a f**king tool Newt is.
Ron Paul #1 with Santorum as the second best choice.
You cannot have Ron Paul and Rick "Sanitarium" in the same sentence!
Sorry....no offense intended...but Sanitarium would bomb Iran the second after he has taken the oath of office!
He LOVES, LOVES, LOVES empirialism!
Dear ZEROHEDGE< can you please post a picture of Newt Gingrich at Bohemian Grove?
I would rather see him scurrying up the hill in Deliverance in lieu of Ned Beatty.
pods
Squeal like a pig Newt.
http://www.sonic.net/~kerry/bohemian/gingrich.html
gingrich arriving at grove in 1995......
i am sure he has been there many times over the years. it is a right of passage for these idiots........
AS posted before. I can still dream.
"Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free" (St. John 8:32)
Ron Paul is not afraid to simply tell the truth. That is what sets him apart from the rest of the field of candidates.
And that is why his ideas appeal to such a broad cross-section of voters.
He is not trying to appeal to woman, ethnic minorites, young or old, blue-collar or white-collar workers.
He appeals to that which responds to hearing the truth - even when it hurts.
Go Ron!
Short GS as long as he stays in the lead and alive.
JPM too. Morgan Stanl- just short all financials...
I bet Bernanke will be calling Draghi right after the Euro meeting wondering why he hasn't spent that trillion yet.
if you think stocks are weak now - if he removes the Fed and support for the banks i think the Dow goes to 5000 . not that this would be a bad thing. just a good place to start a rebuild.
Why? Because the fascist system would implode? Awe, poor wittle babies....
Ron Paul fuck yea!!
Talking with a Swiss national, a Brit, and a Frenchman left me with the thought that this idea of liberty just might take hold. These were only three people at an econometrics conference, but they are al tired of Keynesianism, Central Bank manipulation, and auhoritarian governments. These are people who once thought Obama was a good choice.
Liberte, egalite, rationalite....bitchez.
Gary Johnson! Come on.
He cut the 10% annual growth in the budget by using his gubernatorial veto on half of bills in the first six months.[4] His use of the veto over his two terms gained him the nickname "Governor Veto".
In his second term, he concentrated on the issue of school voucher reforms,[8] as well as campaigning for marijuana decriminalization. During his tenure as governor, he adhered strictly to an anti-tax, anti-bureaucracy program, and set state and national records for his use of veto powers
Nice call on him. He'd make a good RP running mate I believe.
Right wing media outlets explode...
Right wing media outlets explode...
Hopefully the left wing media outlets will implode and we'll be left with something that more or less represents reporting that is factual and fair.
One can always hope. (sigh)
And pray tell exactly who are these left wing media outlets? Blogs don't count.
NY Times? Aside from the editorial page, please explain. WSJ? Owned by Murdoch. ABC? Owned by Disney. NBC? Owned by GE. CBS? Owned by Viacom. Fox? Ha! Gannett? Brysam Global Partners. LA Times? Tribune Corp. And so on...
I don't care what individual reporters think. When you work for a big corporation, you do what your boss wants. Think there is much interest in rocking the boat at the expense of your paycheck in any one of those companies? If so, I'm wasting my time.
Oh, I almost forgot about the dozens of liberal radio talk shows. Pfht...
Don't "liberal radio talk shows" fall under the category of a "media outlet"?
Ya, real heavy hitters with their .00000003% or so market share.
Yeah, if you can name me one.
but but but but but but... i - ran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I8NhRPo0WAo
Could tptb let it happen? Surely not. We never see such justice do we..ever..
omg ho. li. fuck.
there IS a god after all!!
pray like a mother-f*cker people!!! -- because he's the last chance america has.
and even then thar's a real shit storm a'coming
I have been supporting Ron Paul since his last campaign in 2007. I have never been thrilled like right now. The odds of the impossible happening are increasing every day now. Spread the word.
For Liberty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIcIkoOwp7s
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/gop-will-take-gloves-if-ron-paul-wins-iowa/264111
the power of the status quo will be brought to bear if paul wins in iowa..........
so if he wins there, he had better prepare for a anal examination...........
That's the thing about RP, he is real, he is genuine. I'm sure they've already spent $millions looking for something in his past, some way that he is vulnerable. I don't think they will find anything.
What is worrying is what they might do to him. I have read over the years of superweapons that can induce cancer or heart problems at a distance. In fact, were'nt such items on display at some congressional hearing in the last few years? If RP can keep on keepin' on, the real danger is what they might do to him, or what they do in the world situation. WW3 might be reason to cancel the elections, etc. etc. But as more and more people wake up, all their usual tools of manipulation, like false flag, MSM, etc. are becoming less and less powerful.
And people thought I was nuts when I supported Paul starting in 2007... as always, ahead of the curve several years in advance...
well you can support whoever you want. but is ron paul the president? hell no, he isn't .............so will he ever be? let us be frank here shall we? what chance does he have against the legions of hell?
NONE - zero chance.
Anyone can "win" one of these bumpkin state clown shows. ANYONE!
When the show starts after the cartoons are over you will see the real powers in all their glory from the war-monger/statist/new-con to the welfare/statist/democraps turn on the threat machines and the media whores that support each side to keep access to the debt/money/pig-machine will as usual keep the sheep in the proper pen.
Someone like RP will only have a chance after it blows to hell.
I took a lot of crap from friends because I didn't vote for McCain in the 2008 election. I'm still blamed for putting Obama in office. I always replied that if the GOP couldn't field a better candidate they deserved to lose. Also, because Bush was so bad, he was the real reason Obama won.
even though i was not completely awake all of the years i have been on this earth, i have always known thst somehow the political system of this country never has worked and never will work as it is.....i have not voted since 1980 and i never will vote again. i agree with george carlin on this matter......
Good you prove your irrelevance
Refusing to particpate in evil or irrelevent actions(if that be your belief) is all you have.
If you can't/won't be guided by your own belief after research and thought on the matter then you are not a moral being.
Simple as that.
that and a $1 will get u , not much
Enjoyed sponsoring 2 minutes of the Ron Paul Blimp in 2008.....
go ron paul
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Ron Paul and Huntsmen are the only two who make sense so far.
Huntsmen is a Bootlicker
huntsmen is a interesting individual. nothing much is said about him . i never read much about him. if he is a mormon then that right there disqualifies him from office based solely on his cultish relgious affiliations which if you only knew about , you too would completely agree with my statements. the mormons were the only religion to ever declare war on the united states . does that statement in and of itself make some clarification about what noncompoops these idiots are all about? i hope so....
Look at the crap the shills are trying to pull :
Just as Ron Paul takes the lead... this happens... yeah total coincidence... NOT!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/19/iowa-caucus-polling-system-th...
Iowa Caucus Polling System Threatened By Hackers
Republican Party officials in Iowa are taking new steps to secure their vote counting systems after an anonymous threat suggested computer hackers could attempt to disrupt next month's presidential nominating caucuses. A video uploaded to YouTube features a computer-generated voice denouncing a corrupt political system and calls on supporters to "peacefully shut down" the Jan. 3 caucuses.
yep, the jewish media machine will go into full overdrive to stop this ron paul candidacy because the zionist probably see him as a clear and present danger to them and their goals.........at first he was just some novelty to entertain the sheep but now , it is getting more serious.........
First they ridicule you..............
pods
THE YIDS ARE COMING TO GET YOU!
you an ADLbot?
Seems to show up for the same topics time after time?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_tool
pods
I wait with great anticipation!
an invented people , ha , come and get some. bitchez.
Yes, correct. A poster on another site pointed out that this video is not even on Anonymous' own site, and both the objective and Anonymous' usual synthesized voice was not characteristic of the real Anonymous.
Most likely a false flag by TPTB...it will be interesting!
Turn off Faux News. You will learn nothing there. The rest of the MSM media ain't much better.
Dude, to understand the enemy you have to read their propaganda.
Iowa caucus precinct votes are not counted by computer at the local level...what morons...the lot of 'em.
Common people understand we already have economic chaos because of our politicians proclivity of running around the world butting into everyone's business. The 'Fix' is a return to minding our own business which out politicians call isolationism. Europe needs to provide and pay for their own defence. WWII ended in 1945, it's time wean them from America's tit so they can grow up. The Middle East has been the worlds boil since the 8th century. The solution to that problem is to allow them to return to their choice of population control by killing each other.
when you look around the world not too many countries spend as much as we do on this thing called "national defense" which was never about defense but only about offense........
large standing "defense" forces come along with large taxes and a welfare state that heads into decline. Always.
The temptation to "use" it is too great for your avg pol and for the below avg they are an absolute quick route to tyranny.
The Founding Fathers were "isolationists", too....crazy THEM!
For those neocons in your life who CLAIM to love the Constitution and the Founders, you might cut and paste the section of George Washington's Farewell Speech that TOTALLY supports Paul's foreign policy position....
Then, watch them squirm! : )
As this article points out, the GOP will spend big bucks to try and destroy Ron Paul's reputation if he wins in Iowa:
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/gop-will-take-gloves-...
Winning Iowa is a big step, but it gets very ugly after that. Obviously, what the people want matters little to the power brokers.
They've already shot their bolt, so I say "go right ahead".
Winning Iowa means next to nothing.
If you finish in the top 3 or 4 that's all that's required.
Iowa is a foregin land compared to many of the other states , especially on either coast.
It is used as a fund raising tool and winners don't mean squat.
Real politics don't bend to fairy tales no matter how nice they may be,
So, true re: Iowa. It's just political pigs on display like at the state fair.
He'll leave Iowa based on momentum...and then crash in one of the real primary states when the money runs out.
Somewhere in the wee hours Ron Paul raised $4MM from small donations once again given by thousands and thousands of inspired people.
Somewhere in the wee hours TPTB got a shiver up their spine.
Run Ron Run.
One of those donations wuz me.
me too. wasn't much, but it was all I could afford.
Gold sold off again today. Bernanke must be in the process of leasing all his Treasurie gold before the election.
I want a Ron Paul/Peter Schiff ticket.
I do as well, Devo. That would make those idiots like Ben Stein at fucks news flip their lids.
Ron Paul/Kyle Bass ticket. Two of the best things to come out of Texas.
Peter Schiff can't be trusted, he's against a new 911 investigation.
http://peterschiffchannel.blogspot.com/2010/03/peter-schiff-on-9-11-conspiracy-theory.html
He's also "Banksta Gramps" (Jacob) progeny....too close for comfort!
Please… pretty, pretty please, let RP win in Iowa. If for nothing else but to let me watch the GOP go into crisis mode and try to explain why their cream-of-the-crop can't beat the "crazy old kook" at their own game on MSM.
I will feel sorry for RP if he does win, his impending character assassination will be swift and without mercy.
I can already imagine the Headlines:
"Ron Paul let's a new born fall on it's head, after delivering it" ... (later retracted with full apologies)
"Ron Paul harms a fly!!!" ... (as it turns later it was some other guy with the name 'Ron Paul')
"Ron Paul cheats on the IRS" ... (further clarification - by paying too much in taxes)
"Ron Paul cheats on his wife" ... (by helping an elderly woman cross the street)
go ron go!!!!!
Relevant: http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6137/ronpaul2012trumanpaper.jpg
yaawwwwnnnnn... umm, hrumph cough, cough. He's still gotta get the nomination doesn't he.
You're that guy that, on a sunny day when others are enjoying the weather, will say, "Yeah, but it's gonna rain eventually."
no, that was just my attempt @ humor. But I really am gifted with exhortation.
Needs to say "For second place"
nah i am the guy that doesn't wish for a roof and then wonder why I am all wet when the rains come in the spring.
If Ron Paul wins, many will be coming back to settle in the US and bring back both their capital and knowledge to restart the country.
Ron Paul/Gary Johnson 2012
Assuming Dr. Paul wins Iowa and is second in New Hampshire, then it will be a massive, heavily financed snakepit a-waitin' in South Carolina. The traditional shallow unmarked grave for 'wrong' Republican candidates.
If any ZH readers/Paul supporters have friends or family in SC, start mentioning Ron Paul NOW (or sooner). That will be the barricade state for the corrupt swine in charge.
On the plus side, Dr. Paul has plenty of cash and the truth going for him. Did you know he has raised more money from active duty military servicemembers than all other Republican candidates combined? Washington Post mentioned that last week. Paul is pro-defense and pro-security. The military itself understands this.
So, Vote for Freedom: Vote Paul!
Unfortunately he probably wont do well here no matter what. Fighting terrorists bent on totalitarianism and domination got so deeply ingrained into the DNA 150 years ago that merely using the word has people looking for their rifles and seeing enemies whether warranted or not, now it overrides common sense and even states rights for all too many.
All he needs to do is tell the people that yes, he will nuke Iran if they even look at us funny... then he is in like Flynn... he flopped that one in the last debate...
PS: Kim Jong, burn in hell you asshole!
Because that line of thinking served us so well in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Elect Ron Paul.
One Iowan for Ron Paul here!
you BiCheZ got plenty of straw, doncha?
There are only two questions to consider in the 2012 Presidential election:
Do you believe in the power of truth?
Do you believe in the power of personal choice?
There is only ONE candidate that truthfully declares that he respects your power of personal choice...
>>>Do you believe in the power of personal choice?<<<
I do. So, why doesn't Ron Paul?
Libertarian hypocrite.
The face off between Oba and Ron would be interesting. I don't think Oba would be able to match Ron's understanding of the economy.
I don't think Obama would even consider a debate against Ron Paul
Call me cynical and call Bobby and John dead. Nothing will change no matter who is elected.
Yeah... there's kind of two issues there... one... survive until the election and two... survive after the election. But up first... character assassination... it'll be a heavy dose of "guilt by association" with a few allegations of racism. That'll be round one and it starts now.
While I recognize Ron Paul as a better candidate than all the rest, I still think he is not fit to govern. Not only for all the reasons of an unstable party backing (which may undo any president), but because his ultra-libertarian ideology would only entrench economic powers more and more. You see, financial innovation always thrives where it's less regulated... OTC bullshit anyone? Let Ron privatize and deregulate it all, and the consequences will end up being an even more bloated state now completely (even more than today) bought over by economic interests. A guy who can't recognize a legitimate role for the state, just can't do it. I'm sorry.
I agree, Your sorry...
Well, I was sorry for illusions bound to be broken. But as for the result, it can't be better. Anything that brings down the global dollar system (and its associated global military) is good IMHO. So yeah, Ron, Romney, Obamba, whatever. No matter who it is, they're all wrong and shit's going dooowwwn.
yea regulation and government agencies have done a bang up job you fucking idiot.
Well, let's have no govt agencies and no regulations, like in Mogadishu,. Let's see who's the fucking idiot then.
I think you misunderstand Ron Paul; he has always been against paper money, whether its paper or a computer entry, which he claims leads to tyranny. He supports an end to the unconstitutional powers of the Fed. Says Paul, when money is replicated at will and without regard to cost, “it’s morally identical to the counterfeiter who illegally prints currency… it’s fraud.” Here is just one of thousands of public statements, this one in early 2008:
“First, money is not wealth, in and of itself. You cannot create more wealth simply by creating more money. Wall Street bankers cry out for more liquidity, but what is really needed is more value behind the dollar. But the value, unfortunately, isn't there.
“You see, the Fed creates new money and uses it to purchase securities from banks. Flush with funds, these banks seek to put this money to use. During the Fed's expansionary period, much of this money went to home loans. Through a combination of federal government inducements to lend to risky borrowers, and the Fed's supply of easy money, the housing bubble took shape. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were encouraged to purchase and securitize mortgages, while investors, buoyed by implicit government backing, rushed to provide funding. Money that could have been invested in more productive, less risky sectors of the economy was thereby malinvested in subprime mortgage loans.
“The implicit guarantee from the Fed [quickly became] explicit, as those institutions deemed "too big to fail" are bailed out at taxpayer expense. Wall Street made a killing during the housing bubble, reaping record profits. Now that the bubble has burst, these same firms are trying to dump their losses on the taxpayers. This approach requires more money creation, and therefore debasement of all dollars in circulation.
Centrally planned, government-manipulated economies always fail eventually. The collapse of communism and the failure of socialism should have made this apparent. Even the most educated, well-intentioned central planners cannot plan the market better than the market itself. Those that understand economics best, understand this reality.
“In free markets, both success and failure are options… As painful as it might be for Wall Street, banks, even big ones, must be allowed to fail..."
Ok, Ron Paul is against paper money. That's OK. But he's also against any backstop against economic interests taking over the political process. So even if you don't have paper money, even if you go back to a gold standard; you'll still be a serf for the economic interests.
And worst, returning to the old age of gold standard and a minimum monetary base, where the richest have the gold, and there's no gold for anybody else... I remember the fight to monetize silver... Like they're going to allow that once they control the money supply. Hah, you'd be screwed.
>>>but because his ultra-libertarian ideology<<<
What ultra-libertarian ideology?...not if you're a woman.
He's apparently only a libertarian where men are concerned.
He's stuck in some fuckin' "Leave it to Beaver" time warp.
Well, yeah. It's always the innate Republican fear of gender equality. Oh them gents, they feel so threatened by them ladies, you kinda wonder what sort of gents they really are...
Donations in the Ron Paul Tea Party Moneybomb at this moment stand at $4,096,000+…
New Hampshire is Romney’s to lose, where he is now leading, but today’s additional breaking news that Ron Paul’s numbers are climbing in NH is really big news:
Paul Passes Gingrich in New Hampshire at 21%.
American Research Group reports on research taken Dec 11-14 from likely Republican voters that “Mitt Romney continues to lead the New Hampshire Republican Presidential Preference Primary with 35%. Jumping into second place is Ron Paul with 21%. Newt Gingrich is now in third place with 16% and Jon Huntsman is in fourth place with 13%.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/ia/iowa_republican_presidential_primary-1588.html
Real Clear Politics has the average of latest polls
Remember that Iowa doesn't count if Ron Paul wins, at least according to the MSM talking morons. And then I guess New Hamshire won't count either, and then South Carolina, and then Florida...
Its going to be Mitt Romney (Mormon) vs. Obama (?)
And historically speaking, the Mormon religion was biased towards blacks back in the day. Look up the history.
Mitt Romney's great-great grandfather was Parley Pratt - who only had ties to Joseph Smith. Who is Josepth Smith? Oh, he - J. Smith - only founded the Mormon church and those golden plates, visits from divine apparations, etc...lol.
Leaders are not elected - they are born.
Obama will get in for a second term though
BTW - the 44th president is not suppose to make it out of office. They are due for a sacrifice and who else than a guy from Illinois, who came in during a time of great unrest and is a lot different than anything else we've seen - thats right Ab Lincoln...i mean Obama...
44=no good
Ron Paul follows marching orders from Al-Qaeda. Seriously, let us hope both the democrats and the republicans pull together and get this wack job out of the race.
hmm... care to elaborate on that wildly speculative assertion?
No, not really but it is commonly known that Dr. Paul is weak on terror and sympathetic to Islam.
If he gets the bid AL-QAEDA will bulldoze that fool, play him like a fiddle. Islam will be raping american children in no time.
the CIA which is an American organization controls Al Qaeda and the Saudi's fund fundamentalist islam around the world. Stop your racist shit, islamic people are being raped by bankers as well although more violently than in the west...for now.
Controls them my ass.