Ron Paul's Statement On The Budget Control Act And On "Super Congress"

Tyler Durden's picture

Not one but two letters today (link to prior here) from a very digusted Ron Paul, in which he once again dissects the complete farce that is the "spending" cut bill (if by spending one means slightly lowering the angle of attack on future government expenditures well over and above the revenue slope) and also adds his thoughts on the farce that is the "Super Congress."

Statement On The Budget Control Act

Rather than raising the debt limit, Congress should recognize the federal government has reached debt saturation and therefore stop incurring new debt!   Federal revenues for 2012 likely will amount to about $2.2 trillion, an amount roughly equal to the 2004 federal budget.  To balance the 2012 budget, Congress simply needs to adopt 2004 spending levels.  Was the federal government really too small just 8 years ago?

But Washington has a serious spending addiction-- and in spite of all the talk about spending cuts, there are none contained in today’s legislation.  According to the non-partisan CATO Institute, this bill merely commits Congress to spending less than it otherwise would.  Even if this Congress could bind a future congress, I doubt many Americans would define a cut as spending less on unconstitutional programs than Congress originally planned to spend.  The bill also assumes large tax increases in its revenue projections, with the expiration of the Bush tax cuts at the end of 2012 calculated into the “baseline” numbers.  This assumption will make it very difficult politically for Republicans to extend current tax rates beyond 2012.

Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of this deal is the “Super Congress” provision.  This is nothing more than a way to disenfranchise the majority of Congress by denying them the chance for meaningful participation in the crucial areas of entitlement and tax reform.  It cedes power to draft legislation to a special commission, hand-picked by the House and Senate leadership.  The legislation produced by this commission will be fast-tracked, and Members will not have the opportunity to offer amendments. Approval of the recommendations of the “Super Congress” is tied to yet another debt ceiling increase. This guarantees that Members will face tremendous pressure to vote for whatever comes out of this commission-- even if it includes tax increases.  This provision is an excellent way to keep spending decisions out of the reach of members who are not on board with the leadership's agenda.

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Id fight Gandhi's picture

But I don't want a super congress! Didn't want the czars either.

WineSorbet's picture

I believe it is officially called "uber congress".

We are so screwed!

Drag Racer's picture

screwed would be what we went through the past 45 years, this is now death.


the heartbeat of America stopped years ago, government refused to even try to revive her, now this super songress crap is the end, it is the coffin. we are dead and buried.

AldousHuxley's picture

Ron Paul's been watching too much SuperTroopers

Fukushima Sam's picture

These days, on ZH, if you criticize Ron Paul for not being "Ron Paul enough" then you get "junked" (or whatever the new system is). 

Weird times at the end of days...

AldousHuxley's picture

Even Ron Paul admitted he will never end the Fed. But he takes  extreme positions to bring up a reform.


ZH attracts many tards these days. turn the clock back to 2009 Tyler!

wanklord's picture

Dr. Paul,

Your sincerity itself is bullshit; in fact, by appealing to tons of bullshit about the Constitution and other patriotic crap, Congressman Ron Paul is able to seduce his brute and ignorant constituency while doing nothing at all in Congress (a clever way to make easy money). He is just part of the establishment while pretending to be a "genuine patriot." Moreover, he is also a mediocre version of one of Leo Strauss'(*) categories of society: the Gentlemen

The gentlemen, are lovers of honour and glory. They are the most ingratiating towards the conventions of their society – that is, the illusions of the cave. They are true believers in God, honour, and moral imperatives. They are ready and willing to embark on acts of great courage and self-sacrifice at a moment's notice.

Besides that, Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue. The sooner the US economy collapses the better, so these brutes will finally learn NOT to live beyond their means.

Time for Barry to govern by decree: suspend the Constitution, declare Martial Law and quarantine in FEMA camps those who may try to revolt (the revolutionaries wanna be will need a little dose of indoctrination into the new system and NSPD 51 allows President  Obama to proceed in such direction).

Rodent Freikorps's picture

Wow. It is weird to run into that kind of narcissism outside academia.

spiral_eyes's picture

it's all a circus, a non-issue. the real action is coming, soon. friend of mine explains why:

Oh regional Indian's picture

Wank, spot on. Dr. Paul has been th ehard money red herring that has drawn acolytes, who after 40 years of prattle are happy to consider the good professor their saviour. And in-spite of th efact that he has been nothing other than a talking head for 30 howmanyever years and yet has said following is instructive.

To note that his politics is dynastic is equally instructive.

Il professoire, he says good things. End the Fed, audit the fed, open knox.... hah!

His followers have been duped.


Vic Vinegar's picture

I'm no Paul-freak and think the cat has a 0.0% chance of being elected.  But Paul is a good man, simply trying to speak truths and find solutions within the confines of this 'system'.

Vic Vinegar's picture

I get it, junker.  At this stage of the game we are better off coming onto Zero Hedge and offering opinions on gay porn.  In that, you'd find a less polarizing issue than Ron Paul.  Pleasant dreams to you.

malikai's picture

Don't be upset. Those downvotes confirm that you are thinking outside the cult. Or they confirm that someone is having a good laugh at you. Take the first; it is more palatable.

Oh regional Indian's picture

Vic, I'm sure he is a good man for what he is, nice chap too, probably. 

But he's not done a thing! Tok tok tok!

No good!


Silver Dreamer's picture

What else do you expect him to do?  Challenge all of the bankster puppets to duels, and shoot them all?  He's doing the best he can in a completely controlled system.  At the very least he's been a huge source of truth and has awakened a ton of people.  It's at least a good start.

Oh regional Indian's picture

30 years of talking? A congressman's job is to educate or do?


Silver Dreamer's picture

You do realize how our system works, right?  Go stand on a stage of puppets, and show me what you can do to stop the show.  They will keep on singing and dancing all around you no matter what you do.  Give me a break.  Also, why do you and so many others on here sign their comments?  It's redundant and pointless.

AldousHuxley's picture

Politician's job is to appear popular while pushing unpopular special interests against the will of the governed. It is essentially outsourcing of a dirty job by the super elites who can now hide behind the scenes to push their agenda without having to reveal who they are and risk their lives (people kill politicians but never find out who funded him/her for unpopular actions)


Thus, politician will push the populace around until they break. Then another opposing politician will take over to appease the populace. However, the AGENDA is set by those behind the scenes.

faustian bargain's picture

Do what, exactly? Pass a balanced budget amendment all by himself?

I think writing an Audit the Fed bill that got passed - albeit in a watered-down form, thanks to B.Sanders - was 'doing' something. What else would you have him do? Who else in government is 'doing' anything right?

And for all the talk of an ignorant electorate (not to mention a Congress full of people who don't even know what money is), a little education might not be such a bad thing.

snakeboat's picture

ORI, all you do is talk, talk...  pot, meet kettle

John_Coltrane's picture

"Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue"

Speak for yourself.  Humans are animals.  But animals are not stupid.  They merely react to their environment with a drive for survival and gene replication.

Thus, you meant to write, "humans are a bunch of animals manipulated by their environment such that those who are most fit and lucky survive and replicate"

Stop insulting animals, even single celled bacteria could easily subdue you!

Toolshed's picture

I tip my hat to such a well polished tool such as yourself. I like this paragraph:

"Besides that, Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue. The sooner the US economy collapses the better, so these brutes will finally learn NOT to live beyond their means."

I am an American, and you are correct sir, we are stupid animals. The same stupid animals that helped save Europe, and the rest of the world for that matter, from those nasty Nazis. And yes, we are easy to minupulate. But, so are you and all other humans on this planet. Subdue? No one has yet accomplished that one......just ask the Japanese.

Now this paragraph is a real hoot:

"Time for Barry to govern by decree: suspend the Constitution, declare Martial Law and quarantine in FEMA camps those who may try to revolt (the revolutionaries wanna be will need a little dose of indoctrination into the new system and NSPD 51 allows President  Obama to proceed in such direction)."

This clearly indicates that IF you have ever been to the USA, you did not leave the safety of your motel room. We all possess these little, or not so little, devices I like to call guns. I am not really a gun entusiast, but I personally own  five. I have an associate that owns over sixty, which is not uncommon. What's that you say? Your benevolent leaders took away your guns so you wouldn't hurt yourselves? Probably for the best. Our leaders are much too afraid of us to even try that. But I guess you probably know much more about being indoctrinated than we Americans do, so I will stop now. If you are ever in the Florida vicinity, please look me up. I have a spot with your name on it on the back wall of the tool shed.

jpmorrisaggie's picture

I completely disagree.  In addition to my personal experience of meeting the man on three different occasions, there are just way too many things in my mind that don't add up with the argument that Ron Paul is "just part of the establishment".  Please make your case with more than just opinions empty of any explanations of your basis for them or be considered a +1 towards the "bunch of stupid animals" in America.  


dxj's picture

Say what you must to make yourself feel superior to Americans, but there is a tradition of liberty and self-reliance that has been the source of this country's greatness. Ron Paul represents that tradition and why his popularity is growing.

The stupid animals will be the ones rioting in the streets only to be round up by NSA thugs. These are the dumb animals that will lay dead on suburban lawns after they try to loot the so-called "rich people". These are the dumb animals who have grown accustomed to living at the expense of others rather than providing for their own needs and wants.

No sir, it's not the dependent animals we need worry about. The well armed suburbanite has much more to lose and all the more dangerous because of it. Not even tyrants rule without the consent of the people.

Gold Man-Sacks's picture

WTF is wrong with you?  Paul is a hero, and one of the few who has stood up to the pricks and tried to save the sheeple who mostly ridicule him.  How much else can he do?  The establishment media will never let him get very far.  But yet, he still perseveres.  How frustrating must it have been all these years?  And then some wanker like you suggest he's just part of the establishment?  What evidence do you have?  Why don't you stand up, use your real name, and run for Congress or president?  Why?  Because you're just another anonymous internet commenting prick, that's why.  Do us all a favor, and quit your bitching and go back to wanking.  Tool.

optimator's picture

For those that don't like Dr. Paul, who do you like?  Who, of all the other candidates, Repub. and Dem. have the courage of their convictions?  The rest are all the same, they'll tell you whatever you wish to hear.  IT IS TIME TO GIVE RON PAUL A CHANCE.

Livingstrong's picture

LOL, your comment made me laugh. But I think that ZH is one of the best economic websites right now. You are a bit nostalgic for 2009, I am glad is 2011 and looking forward to the end of this charade. 

Vic Vinegar's picture

Agreed.  And since one should never go to bed angry or impish, let me offer a straight take:

I think the comments section on this site peaked in the summer of 2010.  (If you are newbie, go back to the old posts - there are so many rich debates there.)

Fast-forward to today: I replied to a B9K9 comment with a comment of his own.  There is nothing left to say on this site; if you are still here, just have fun.

This is still one of the best sources for news on the web thanks to Tyler and friends.  Goodnight everyone.

AldousHuxley's picture

No doubt ZH is excellent source of economic debate to a point where I'm beginning to suspect that it is too good. Is Putin behind this to expose the truth while bringing America down like he is doing with RT news (RUSSIA Today)? Yes FOX sucks, but RT is Russian, PressTV is Iranian, CCTV is Chinese, and Al Jazeera is obvious.I hope not. I hope ZH is run by Americans for better America not Russians to bring down America permanently.


The issue is with trolls just using ZH to blindly complain and watering down the quality of the debate. I don't want ZH to become a whiner's paradise. Keep it objective. Otherwise ZH will end up in the hands of tea party idiots and water down the quality to Liptons. Those veterans on disability payment for life while complaining other people should not get medicare because that is government welfare. I'm afraid idiots only learn when they are forced....benefits are take away from all then vets will learn how much welfare they get from the government. Republicans showed true colors as they couldn't cut military pork. Time to everyone to face true poverty to find out the truth. Except that it may be too late.

damage's picture

I believe you're the tard for not getting the point that he is trying to win a Republican primary...


AldousHuxley's picture

No sir, your ilk are the turds for not being able see past the politics. It doesn't matter republican or democrat you will not personally benefit much either case unless all of your eggs are in either basket. False choice between two of lesser evils to give you the illusion of power through democracy.


Politics is battle between top 1% vs top 1% of different interests USING the rest of 99% as cheap pawns. No politician will make you richer than they themselves will from getting elected into power.

UGrev's picture

No. It's called "We're taking our ball and going to another court because you mother fucking tea party hags won't play by OUR rules that we make up as we go along..." 

I'm Tea Party Proud.. and those shit stains in congress that are willing to go along with this are no longer on my christmas list. 

teolawki's picture

Agreed! And I suspect a large lump of coal will be delivered during their next election cycle.

slyhill's picture

At least we'll be sure about which ones to, uh, "bring to justice" first.

AmCockerSpaniel's picture

I don't think what was done here is constitutional. It marginalizes the rest of the members of congress. The people voted to send representatives (for them the people), and they do not get to take part of the debate, or formation of any of the bills. There goes my vote!

molecool's picture

I personally feel very strongly that it is unconstitutional. But the rule should be that if there is ANY doubt about constiutionality it should be presented to all voters. What is happening here is nothing but a highjacking of a democratic process carefully designed by your forefathers (I'm an immigrant citizen, so i can't say 'our').

Extremely upset - this should be challenged. Where I come from (Germany) people would be in the streets and not in a peaceful matter either.

MayIMommaDogFace2theBananaPatch's picture

Which part of the constitution do you think they're going to pay attention, now? 

I thought they'd pretty much washed their hands of that whole thing...

Clearly_Irrational's picture

It seems like sleezy party politics specifically designed to bypass some members who don't want to play ball, but I'm having a hard time figuring out how it would be unconstitutional.  Exactly which provision do you think it violates?

molecool's picture

Maybe this is the time to consider some burning cars and monotov cocktails? How much systematic degradation of our republic are we willing to take?

HoofHearted's picture

If my vote means anything (and we all know it doesn't) then I'd want Ron Paul on my super Congress, uber Congress, just plain Congress, and any other Congress you've got. Man has been honest for his whole life and has remained so DESPITE being in CONgress.

A Lunatic's picture

That is probably already in the bag, and a good way to both keep tabs on the pulse of the Tea Party/Libertarian movement and keep it from gaining any traction. As long as we have a man at the table right??? Face it, there's no political savior.

instinctiveDrift's picture

Oh the irony, to be reading an article about Ron Paul and seeing ads promoting none other than Barack Obama's re-election and anti-Scott Walker ads. 


BTW, congrats Tyler.  You must have made the big time with ZH if the Whitehouse deems your site worthy of ad investments.  Not sure it's the wisest ad investment dollars spent given the crowd here but congrats to you none the less.



Please return to your regular programming now...

Use of Weapons's picture

Over a million individual hits / month, and the highest GPA of financial blogs, according to Tyler; I never see the ads, but big league advertising = money, and we all know money = the score card.


And.. you never know. Might be Ron Paul putting those ads in, just to enrage voters to make sure they're mobilised for 2012.

redpill's picture

In Soviet Amerika, debt ceiling raises YOU!

km4's picture

"If debt is the problem, how is more debt the solution"?
- Ron Paul

You have my vote !

InconvenientCounterParty's picture

Reagan proved deficits don't matter.

-Dick Cheney

That's deep compared to RP, admit it.

Drag Racer's picture

they are violating free speech right now by taking his site offline


You don't have permission to access / on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Savyindallas's picture

Ron Paul is the conscience of America. Thank God Rand paul is just as good -maybe better.  The rest of Congress 9with a few exceptions) are a bunch of criminals - treasonous criminals. 

High Plains Drifter's picture

you don't know much about rand paul do you?