This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.

Ron Paul's Statement On The Budget Control Act And On "Super Congress"

Tyler Durden's picture




 

Not one but two letters today (link to prior here) from a very digusted Ron Paul, in which he once again dissects the complete farce that is the "spending" cut bill (if by spending one means slightly lowering the angle of attack on future government expenditures well over and above the revenue slope) and also adds his thoughts on the farce that is the "Super Congress."

Statement On The Budget Control Act

Rather than raising the debt limit, Congress should recognize the federal government has reached debt saturation and therefore stop incurring new debt!   Federal revenues for 2012 likely will amount to about $2.2 trillion, an amount roughly equal to the 2004 federal budget.  To balance the 2012 budget, Congress simply needs to adopt 2004 spending levels.  Was the federal government really too small just 8 years ago?

But Washington has a serious spending addiction-- and in spite of all the talk about spending cuts, there are none contained in today’s legislation.  According to the non-partisan CATO Institute, this bill merely commits Congress to spending less than it otherwise would.  Even if this Congress could bind a future congress, I doubt many Americans would define a cut as spending less on unconstitutional programs than Congress originally planned to spend.  The bill also assumes large tax increases in its revenue projections, with the expiration of the Bush tax cuts at the end of 2012 calculated into the “baseline” numbers.  This assumption will make it very difficult politically for Republicans to extend current tax rates beyond 2012.

Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of this deal is the “Super Congress” provision.  This is nothing more than a way to disenfranchise the majority of Congress by denying them the chance for meaningful participation in the crucial areas of entitlement and tax reform.  It cedes power to draft legislation to a special commission, hand-picked by the House and Senate leadership.  The legislation produced by this commission will be fast-tracked, and Members will not have the opportunity to offer amendments. Approval of the recommendations of the “Super Congress” is tied to yet another debt ceiling increase. This guarantees that Members will face tremendous pressure to vote for whatever comes out of this commission-- even if it includes tax increases.  This provision is an excellent way to keep spending decisions out of the reach of members who are not on board with the leadership's agenda.

 

- advertisements -

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Mon, 08/01/2011 - 19:56 | 1514966 Id fight Gandhi
Id fight Gandhi's picture

But I don't want a super congress! Didn't want the czars either.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:24 | 1515075 WineSorbet
WineSorbet's picture

I believe it is officially called "uber congress".

We are so screwed!

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:22 | 1515275 Drag Racer
Drag Racer's picture

screwed would be what we went through the past 45 years, this is now death.

 

the heartbeat of America stopped years ago, government refused to even try to revive her, now this super songress crap is the end, it is the coffin. we are dead and buried.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:37 | 1515462 AldousHuxley
AldousHuxley's picture

Ron Paul's been watching too much SuperTroopers

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:59 | 1515525 Fukushima Sam
Fukushima Sam's picture

These days, on ZH, if you criticize Ron Paul for not being "Ron Paul enough" then you get "junked" (or whatever the new system is). 

Weird times at the end of days...

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 23:11 | 1515562 AldousHuxley
AldousHuxley's picture

Even Ron Paul admitted he will never end the Fed. But he takes  extreme positions to bring up a reform.

 

ZH attracts many tards these days. turn the clock back to 2009 Tyler!

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 23:20 | 1515574 wanklord
wanklord's picture

Dr. Paul,

Your sincerity itself is bullshit; in fact, by appealing to tons of bullshit about the Constitution and other patriotic crap, Congressman Ron Paul is able to seduce his brute and ignorant constituency while doing nothing at all in Congress (a clever way to make easy money). He is just part of the establishment while pretending to be a "genuine patriot." Moreover, he is also a mediocre version of one of Leo Strauss'(*) categories of society: the Gentlemen

The gentlemen, are lovers of honour and glory. They are the most ingratiating towards the conventions of their society – that is, the illusions of the cave. They are true believers in God, honour, and moral imperatives. They are ready and willing to embark on acts of great courage and self-sacrifice at a moment's notice.

Besides that, Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue. The sooner the US economy collapses the better, so these brutes will finally learn NOT to live beyond their means.

Time for Barry to govern by decree: suspend the Constitution, declare Martial Law and quarantine in FEMA camps those who may try to revolt (the revolutionaries wanna be will need a little dose of indoctrination into the new system and NSPD 51 allows President  Obama to proceed in such direction).

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 23:51 | 1515645 Rodent Freikorps
Rodent Freikorps's picture

Wow. It is weird to run into that kind of narcissism outside academia.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 00:17 | 1515675 spiral_eyes
spiral_eyes's picture

it's all a circus, a non-issue. the real action is coming, soon. friend of mine explains why:

http://azizonomics.com/2011/08/01/why-the-debt-ceiling-is-a-dead-issue/

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 00:19 | 1515717 Oh regional Indian
Oh regional Indian's picture

Wank, spot on. Dr. Paul has been th ehard money red herring that has drawn acolytes, who after 40 years of prattle are happy to consider the good professor their saviour. And in-spite of th efact that he has been nothing other than a talking head for 30 howmanyever years and yet has said following is instructive.

To note that his politics is dynastic is equally instructive.

Il professoire, he says good things. End the Fed, audit the fed, open knox.... hah!

His followers have been duped.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/07/30/pre-cursor-01/

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 00:46 | 1515765 Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar's picture

I'm no Paul-freak and think the cat has a 0.0% chance of being elected.  But Paul is a good man, simply trying to speak truths and find solutions within the confines of this 'system'.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 01:00 | 1515784 Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar's picture

I get it, junker.  At this stage of the game we are better off coming onto Zero Hedge and offering opinions on gay porn.  In that, you'd find a less polarizing issue than Ron Paul.  Pleasant dreams to you.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 05:26 | 1516030 malikai
malikai's picture

Don't be upset. Those downvotes confirm that you are thinking outside the cult. Or they confirm that someone is having a good laugh at you. Take the first; it is more palatable.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 07:22 | 1516095 Oh regional Indian
Oh regional Indian's picture

Vic, I'm sure he is a good man for what he is, nice chap too, probably. 

But he's not done a thing! Tok tok tok!

No good!

ORI

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 08:36 | 1516205 Silver Dreamer
Silver Dreamer's picture

What else do you expect him to do?  Challenge all of the bankster puppets to duels, and shoot them all?  He's doing the best he can in a completely controlled system.  At the very least he's been a huge source of truth and has awakened a ton of people.  It's at least a good start.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 09:10 | 1516354 Oh regional Indian
Oh regional Indian's picture

30 years of talking? A congressman's job is to educate or do?

ORI

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 09:54 | 1516510 Silver Dreamer
Silver Dreamer's picture

You do realize how our system works, right?  Go stand on a stage of puppets, and show me what you can do to stop the show.  They will keep on singing and dancing all around you no matter what you do.  Give me a break.  Also, why do you and so many others on here sign their comments?  It's redundant and pointless.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 18:41 | 1518752 AldousHuxley
AldousHuxley's picture

Politician's job is to appear popular while pushing unpopular special interests against the will of the governed. It is essentially outsourcing of a dirty job by the super elites who can now hide behind the scenes to push their agenda without having to reveal who they are and risk their lives (people kill politicians but never find out who funded him/her for unpopular actions)

 

Thus, politician will push the populace around until they break. Then another opposing politician will take over to appease the populace. However, the AGENDA is set by those behind the scenes.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:12 | 1518853 faustian bargain
faustian bargain's picture

Do what, exactly? Pass a balanced budget amendment all by himself?

I think writing an Audit the Fed bill that got passed - albeit in a watered-down form, thanks to B.Sanders - was 'doing' something. What else would you have him do? Who else in government is 'doing' anything right?

And for all the talk of an ignorant electorate (not to mention a Congress full of people who don't even know what money is), a little education might not be such a bad thing.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 01:38 | 1519620 snakeboat
snakeboat's picture

ORI, all you do is talk, talk...  pot, meet kettle

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 01:59 | 1515869 John_Coltrane
John_Coltrane's picture

"Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue"

Speak for yourself.  Humans are animals.  But animals are not stupid.  They merely react to their environment with a drive for survival and gene replication.

Thus, you meant to write, "humans are a bunch of animals manipulated by their environment such that those who are most fit and lucky survive and replicate"

Stop insulting animals, even single celled bacteria could easily subdue you!

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 08:54 | 1516276 Toolshed
Toolshed's picture

I tip my hat to such a well polished tool such as yourself. I like this paragraph:

"Besides that, Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue. The sooner the US economy collapses the better, so these brutes will finally learn NOT to live beyond their means."

I am an American, and you are correct sir, we are stupid animals. The same stupid animals that helped save Europe, and the rest of the world for that matter, from those nasty Nazis. And yes, we are easy to minupulate. But, so are you and all other humans on this planet. Subdue? No one has yet accomplished that one......just ask the Japanese.

Now this paragraph is a real hoot:

"Time for Barry to govern by decree: suspend the Constitution, declare Martial Law and quarantine in FEMA camps those who may try to revolt (the revolutionaries wanna be will need a little dose of indoctrination into the new system and NSPD 51 allows President  Obama to proceed in such direction)."

This clearly indicates that IF you have ever been to the USA, you did not leave the safety of your motel room. We all possess these little, or not so little, devices I like to call guns. I am not really a gun entusiast, but I personally own  five. I have an associate that owns over sixty, which is not uncommon. What's that you say? Your benevolent leaders took away your guns so you wouldn't hurt yourselves? Probably for the best. Our leaders are much too afraid of us to even try that. But I guess you probably know much more about being indoctrinated than we Americans do, so I will stop now. If you are ever in the Florida vicinity, please look me up. I have a spot with your name on it on the back wall of the tool shed.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 11:38 | 1516840 jpmorrisaggie
jpmorrisaggie's picture

I completely disagree.  In addition to my personal experience of meeting the man on three different occasions, there are just way too many things in my mind that don't add up with the argument that Ron Paul is "just part of the establishment".  Please make your case with more than just opinions empty of any explanations of your basis for them or be considered a +1 towards the "bunch of stupid animals" in America.  

 

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 16:14 | 1518170 dxj
dxj's picture

Say what you must to make yourself feel superior to Americans, but there is a tradition of liberty and self-reliance that has been the source of this country's greatness. Ron Paul represents that tradition and why his popularity is growing.

The stupid animals will be the ones rioting in the streets only to be round up by NSA thugs. These are the dumb animals that will lay dead on suburban lawns after they try to loot the so-called "rich people". These are the dumb animals who have grown accustomed to living at the expense of others rather than providing for their own needs and wants.

No sir, it's not the dependent animals we need worry about. The well armed suburbanite has much more to lose and all the more dangerous because of it. Not even tyrants rule without the consent of the people.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 12:31 | 1520982 Gold Man-Sacks
Gold Man-Sacks's picture

WTF is wrong with you?  Paul is a hero, and one of the few who has stood up to the pricks and tried to save the sheeple who mostly ridicule him.  How much else can he do?  The establishment media will never let him get very far.  But yet, he still perseveres.  How frustrating must it have been all these years?  And then some wanker like you suggest he's just part of the establishment?  What evidence do you have?  Why don't you stand up, use your real name, and run for Congress or president?  Why?  Because you're just another anonymous internet commenting prick, that's why.  Do us all a favor, and quit your bitching and go back to wanking.  Tool.

Thu, 12/22/2011 - 15:41 | 2004998 optimator
optimator's picture

For those that don't like Dr. Paul, who do you like?  Who, of all the other candidates, Repub. and Dem. have the courage of their convictions?  The rest are all the same, they'll tell you whatever you wish to hear.  IT IS TIME TO GIVE RON PAUL A CHANCE.

Fri, 12/23/2011 - 10:52 | 2006987 VyseLegendaire
VyseLegendaire's picture

I love you wanklord.  

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 00:11 | 1515709 Livingstrong
Livingstrong's picture

LOL, your comment made me laugh. But I think that ZH is one of the best economic websites right now. You are a bit nostalgic for 2009, I am glad is 2011 and looking forward to the end of this charade. 

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 01:48 | 1515849 Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar's picture

Agreed.  And since one should never go to bed angry or impish, let me offer a straight take:

I think the comments section on this site peaked in the summer of 2010.  (If you are newbie, go back to the old posts - there are so many rich debates there.)

Fast-forward to today: I replied to a B9K9 comment with a comment of his own.  There is nothing left to say on this site; if you are still here, just have fun.

This is still one of the best sources for news on the web thanks to Tyler and friends.  Goodnight everyone.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:02 | 1518818 AldousHuxley
AldousHuxley's picture

No doubt ZH is excellent source of economic debate to a point where I'm beginning to suspect that it is too good. Is Putin behind this to expose the truth while bringing America down like he is doing with RT news (RUSSIA Today)? Yes FOX sucks, but RT is Russian, PressTV is Iranian, CCTV is Chinese, and Al Jazeera is obvious.I hope not. I hope ZH is run by Americans for better America not Russians to bring down America permanently.

 

The issue is with trolls just using ZH to blindly complain and watering down the quality of the debate. I don't want ZH to become a whiner's paradise. Keep it objective. Otherwise ZH will end up in the hands of tea party idiots and water down the quality to Liptons. Those veterans on disability payment for life while complaining other people should not get medicare because that is government welfare. I'm afraid idiots only learn when they are forced....benefits are take away from all then vets will learn how much welfare they get from the government. Republicans showed true colors as they couldn't cut military pork. Time to everyone to face true poverty to find out the truth. Except that it may be too late.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 03:45 | 1515949 damage
damage's picture

I believe you're the tard for not getting the point that he is trying to win a Republican primary...

 

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 18:50 | 1518778 AldousHuxley
AldousHuxley's picture

No sir, your ilk are the turds for not being able see past the politics. It doesn't matter republican or democrat you will not personally benefit much either case unless all of your eggs are in either basket. False choice between two of lesser evils to give you the illusion of power through democracy.

 

Politics is battle between top 1% vs top 1% of different interests USING the rest of 99% as cheap pawns. No politician will make you richer than they themselves will from getting elected into power.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:41 | 1515468 UGrev
UGrev's picture

No. It's called "We're taking our ball and going to another court because you mother fucking tea party hags won't play by OUR rules that we make up as we go along..." 

I'm Tea Party Proud.. and those shit stains in congress that are willing to go along with this are no longer on my christmas list. 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 23:52 | 1515649 teolawki
teolawki's picture

Agreed! And I suspect a large lump of coal will be delivered during their next election cycle.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:43 | 1515153 slyhill
slyhill's picture

At least we'll be sure about which ones to, uh, "bring to justice" first.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:10 | 1515408 AmCockerSpaniel
AmCockerSpaniel's picture

I don't think what was done here is constitutional. It marginalizes the rest of the members of congress. The people voted to send representatives (for them the people), and they do not get to take part of the debate, or formation of any of the bills. There goes my vote!

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:31 | 1515448 molecool
molecool's picture

I personally feel very strongly that it is unconstitutional. But the rule should be that if there is ANY doubt about constiutionality it should be presented to all voters. What is happening here is nothing but a highjacking of a democratic process carefully designed by your forefathers (I'm an immigrant citizen, so i can't say 'our').

Extremely upset - this should be challenged. Where I come from (Germany) people would be in the streets and not in a peaceful matter either.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:41 | 1515466 MayIMommaDogFac...
MayIMommaDogFace2theBananaPatch's picture

Which part of the constitution do you think they're going to pay attention, now? 

I thought they'd pretty much washed their hands of that whole thing...

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 23:40 | 1515623 Clearly_Irrational
Clearly_Irrational's picture

It seems like sleezy party politics specifically designed to bypass some members who don't want to play ball, but I'm having a hard time figuring out how it would be unconstitutional.  Exactly which provision do you think it violates?

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:27 | 1515440 molecool
molecool's picture

Maybe this is the time to consider some burning cars and monotov cocktails? How much systematic degradation of our republic are we willing to take?

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 23:39 | 1515619 HoofHearted
HoofHearted's picture

If my vote means anything (and we all know it doesn't) then I'd want Ron Paul on my super Congress, uber Congress, just plain Congress, and any other Congress you've got. Man has been honest for his whole life and has remained so DESPITE being in CONgress.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 23:55 | 1515652 A Lunatic
A Lunatic's picture

That is probably already in the bag, and a good way to both keep tabs on the pulse of the Tea Party/Libertarian movement and keep it from gaining any traction. As long as we have a man at the table right??? Face it, there's no political savior.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 23:58 | 1515663 instinctiveDrift
instinctiveDrift's picture

Oh the irony, to be reading an article about Ron Paul and seeing ads promoting none other than Barack Obama's re-election and anti-Scott Walker ads. 

 

BTW, congrats Tyler.  You must have made the big time with ZH if the Whitehouse deems your site worthy of ad investments.  Not sure it's the wisest ad investment dollars spent given the crowd here but congrats to you none the less.

 

instinctiveDrift

Please return to your regular programming now...

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 06:48 | 1516066 Use of Weapons
Use of Weapons's picture

Over a million individual hits / month, and the highest GPA of financial blogs, according to Tyler; I never see the ads, but big league advertising = money, and we all know money = the score card.

 

And.. you never know. Might be Ron Paul putting those ads in, just to enrage voters to make sure they're mobilised for 2012.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 01:04 | 1515794 redpill
redpill's picture

In Soviet Amerika, debt ceiling raises YOU!

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 19:59 | 1514978 km4
km4's picture

"If debt is the problem, how is more debt the solution"?
- Ron Paul

You have my vote !

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:30 | 1515443 InconvenientCou...
InconvenientCounterParty's picture

Reagan proved deficits don't matter.

-Dick Cheney

That's deep compared to RP, admit it.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 04:59 | 1516010 Drag Racer
Drag Racer's picture

they are violating free speech right now by taking his site offline

http://paul.house.gov/

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 19:59 | 1514982 Savyindallas
Savyindallas's picture

Ron Paul is the conscience of America. Thank God Rand paul is just as good -maybe better.  The rest of Congress 9with a few exceptions) are a bunch of criminals - treasonous criminals. 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:06 | 1515006 High Plains Drifter
High Plains Drifter's picture

you don't know much about rand paul do you?

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:19 | 1515058 Cdad
Cdad's picture

No I don't...but I do know a lot about his father.  Is there something that I have missed there, drifter?  Perhaps, you'd like to explain?

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:41 | 1515142 High Plains Drifter
High Plains Drifter's picture

i can look it up for you if you wish, but he has flipped on more than one occasion besides kissing up to the israelis and he has for a fact on more than one occassion, stabbed the tea party people in the back already.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHz_kNyUZ-0

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/rand-paul-hurriedly-tries-back-away

rand paul lied about his resume..

these little white lies and his constant flip flopping on issues, show a lack of character imho......

http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/2010/08/04/contrary-to-some-media-...

getting in bed with the israelis

http://www.rlc.org/2010/06/05/libertarian-defense-of-israel/

rand paul believes certain people should be arrested. hmmm does this sound ok to any of you?

http://www.virginianrebel.com/2011/06/rand-paul-disappointment.html

this stuff is all over the internet. BON APPETIT !

rand paul has been a total disappointment and has not fulfilled his duties as an american and a tea party activist.......

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:52 | 1515177 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

Mrs. Watanabe

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:16 | 1515256 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

  Cdad and HPD.. You both have my vote

 

 

                                                                Yen/cross    eur/aud

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:36 | 1515315 Jendrzejczyk
Jendrzejczyk's picture

Did you lose the OUIJA Board?

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:44 | 1515477 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

 Pollack? Sp intended ya Potato head!

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:22 | 1515434 High Plains Drifter
High Plains Drifter's picture

i will stand at the crossroads waiting with my shotgun when it is time.  when i say this, i mean it......i have always known it would come to this. it is sad that many do not yet realize it.  i have always known it most of my life. i knew it would not be easy. i knew they would not ever, give it up without a fight. i have always thought our government was broken and could not be fixed. then i ran across what jefferson said, about a revolution was needed every 20 years or so just to clean things up.........and he was right.  these men, were clairvoyant in so many ways, way ahead of their time. they knew what was going on ,even then. heck many of them were part of it, but nevertheless they gave us some of a chance and you know what yen, we have blown it. my father blew it, my grandfather blew it and on and on it goes.......now they say the buck stops here when assigning fault. fine i accept the blame. now that , the blame game is over, may we get down to serious work?  these bastards are destroying this nation. they are killing our nation. yet we do nothing. there is no more time. we are the end of fiat. there is nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. this generation , ladies and gentlemen, this generation is it........there is no one else to dump it on anymore. i was listening to a preacher, sunday, where i used to go to church talking about what it means to have a good marriage. it is almost as if, the outside world and what is happening is not really there. they are in some kind of self induced mental bubble of some sort. the churches are silent ladies and gentlemen. they are totally silent and it is for this reason, i hold them accoutable on that terrible day.  remaining silent when you should be talking is to me just as much treason as anything else..............treason is in the air, all over this land.........treason..........it makes me sick to my stomach to see all of this. but......i remain silent now and i wait.........wait for that terrible day........

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:31 | 1515446 LasVegasDave
LasVegasDave's picture

try to make a succinct point, loser

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:34 | 1515458 High Plains Drifter
High Plains Drifter's picture

you can't hear and you can't see , can you?  what a disgusting country this is, full of idiots, useful idiots bought off with a few shekels here and there, and all of them somehow have it in their stupid idiotic minds that what they think is important and their vote counts and all of that bullshit and that they are free men and women........

 

man what a country this is..........

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 00:58 | 1515779 Nikao7
Nikao7's picture

Sad but true

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 02:11 | 1515879 John_Coltrane
John_Coltrane's picture

Democracy:  the worst political system except for the all the rest.

Capitalisim:  the worst economic system except for all the rest.

America:  The worst country except for the all the rest.

 

Get some prospective.  And by the way, he who lives by the sword dies by the sword, so all this "I've got my shotgun business is a load of crap.  Violence is a useless waste of energy.   Ifr you want to change the world work on yourself first.  Desire is the source of all unhappiness.

Breathe, relax.  Don't you have indoor plumbing? 

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 08:48 | 1516241 Silver Dreamer
Silver Dreamer's picture

Violence is a useless waste of energy?  It's a rather useful tool actually, and in defense of liberty it must be used from time to time.  Take your America, and the liberty it once stood for, hatred elsewhere.

Desire is the source of all unhappiness?  Your anti-capitalism is blinding you.  My country was founded with desire for liberty, but you and those like you think it was greed.  There's a huge difference between capitalism and corporatism.  Maybe you should look it up before you come on here and make such ignorant comments.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:52 | 1515499 tsx500
tsx500's picture

damn , there goes my buzz man !

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 23:15 | 1515567 BeansBulletsBandaids
BeansBulletsBandaids's picture

I don't always agree with what you write, but we are pretty close on this one.  The buck will stop here - it has to.  We ALL need to take personal responsibility for the shape our country is in.  If we blame others or "kick the can" we are no better than those in DC.

I regards to the sermon you heard - I wasn't there but perhaps the preacher does see what's going on and feels that a strong marriage and family unit is the basis for fixing what is wrong with this country?  Set our houses in order and then take care of the houses of govt??  just a thought..

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 00:12 | 1515711 High Plains Drifter
High Plains Drifter's picture

i think the 501(c)(3)  IRS exemptions pretty well closed the door and on any preachers talking about real life in their churches..........they are afraid to say what they think. they dance with the devil and now they will get burned.  on this you can be sure.  to me most of them are liars, liars to themselves and liars to me and liars to their flocks.......

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 01:01 | 1515785 Nikao7
Nikao7's picture

7But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment. 8For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean. 9Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. 10For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. 12To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. 13But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 08:21 | 1516174 High Plains Drifter
High Plains Drifter's picture

Isaiah talking about the corruption during his time. Man everything changes and everything remains the same.......

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 23:21 | 1515583 American Dreams
American Dreams's picture

Students of History understand your words, and expect the same end.  You may know this but I believe it needs to be said, you are not alone HPD, many will stand with you, maybe not at the same crossroad but a crossroad just the same. 

There be no shelter here

AD

 

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 00:19 | 1515716 High Plains Drifter
High Plains Drifter's picture

i was just watching a show on PBS about Lincoln.  They were talking about what happened after he was shot and they showed old photographs of the days of his funeral and it showed people gathering around in lines to go in and show their last respects and they told of how , that no time in the history of america had there ever been this kind of outpooring of emotion...

 

then the thought crossed my mind and i fast forwarded to 1963 and saw the parallels of that event to 1963 and then i thought how the same people who killed lincoln, killed JFK...........

we never learn nor do we ever pay much attention to what is happening around us.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 00:27 | 1515731 Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar's picture

we never learn nor do we ever pay much attention to what is happening around us.

No 'we' (i.e., humans in general) do not.  Never have never will.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 00:50 | 1515766 Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar's picture

Pro tip for my junker: get out there in the real world and change human nature, dude!  

Good luck with all that.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 08:23 | 1516179 American Dreams
American Dreams's picture

Correct we as a people never learn but we as individuals we can effect outcomes that will refresh mind and body.  To add to your point, consider the virtual american cannonization of these to men, when if history were given just a short read would they be understood as a segregationist and a womanizer.  This is not the warm and fuzzy history we, nor our children have been taught but I take it as my responsibility to explain that the civil war was not fought to free the slaves for their sake, just one example.

know your ememy

AD 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 23:23 | 1515585 A Lunatic
A Lunatic's picture

I ain't planning on eating any peas. See ya on the front line.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 00:24 | 1515725 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

  Who made up that stupid " Phrase"?    Effin POTUS is a SUMMER SQUASH!!!

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 09:17 | 1516383 Silver Dreamer
Silver Dreamer's picture

Front line? They'll be no such thing. I'll be in the fight none the less.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 07:32 | 1516107 earnulf
earnulf's picture

The Churches are not silent, at least not on the POLITCIAL issues on which they wish to cram down the throats of everyone else.    Abortion being prime among them, for it vexes them that these women are not subserviant to their boyfriends/hsubands.    Or perhaps Gay Marriage, for it blasphemes the sacredness of religious joinings (So why do we have a married box on the tax forms if this is religious?).     The Churches are in it for themselves, for once the non-religious government falls, they are once more the source of stability in these poor peasants lives and we go back to the indulgences and tithes to the Church.

Ask a southern Baptist if the Church is silent in the political arena.    Ask a Right to Life protester if the Church is silent.     Churches distribute material telling you which candidate is on the right side of issues as "guideance" when you vote.     After all, isn't God on their side?   (I personally tend to believe that God is on no side except his own).

I agree that a terrible day is coming.    But we have the CHOICE now to decide how to meet that day.   We can wring our hands in terror as we await the inevitable, or we can make preparations to provide and protect those we love.    I will do what I can to survive and keep alive the idea of freedom.     And I will do what I must to keep alive the flame of liberty.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:28 | 1515293 israhole
israhole's picture

I'll look into your links, but I haven't seen Rand Paul get in bed with the Israelis. However, I do agree he's too soft on them, as Israel-firsters in our government are traitors by definition.  Ending wars and all foreign aid would get my vote, if I believe he'd go through with it.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:05 | 1515396 WestVillageIdiot
WestVillageIdiot's picture

Rand Paul's victory speech when he won his election to the senate was one of the worst things I've ever heard.  He had no charisma, no style and sadly no substance.  It was just a butchering of the English language.  It made me think that he would be a massive dud.  After hearing that I expect nothing out of him.  His dad is the only presidential candidate I've ever donated to.  I was pissed when he really chose not to run a campaign.  I still like Ron but neither one has the ability to reach people.  They remind me of our Catholic priesets giving sermons when I was a kid.  You knew they might be saying something important but it was sure hard to pay attention.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:31 | 1515447 High Plains Drifter
High Plains Drifter's picture

here he explains his views. read this bullshit and see him as he is......

http://spectator.org/blog/2010/04/22/rand-paul-and-israel#

rand and ronny.......zionist to the end.......

http://jewishracism.blogspot.com/2010/11/rand-paul-vindicates-my-accusat...

rand paul meets with zionist jews and neocons......

http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2010/09/30/rands-secret-rendezvous/

so he was just bullshit from the start..........waste of any votes on this pinhead. i am sick of the whole lot of them.........

they sold us down the river and yet no one cares and nobody knows .......

this country is a real piece of work isn't it?

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 00:38 | 1515754 New World Chaos
New World Chaos's picture

Thanks HPD.  Rand Paul is now on the shit list.  I apologize for ever wanting him as veep in 2012.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 08:24 | 1516183 High Plains Drifter
High Plains Drifter's picture

he has been weighed in the balances and found to be wanting..........just like his daddy...........

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 01:04 | 1515796 Nikao7
Nikao7's picture

Thank you for sharing your feelings HPD...  I burn as well

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 03:38 | 1515943 damage
damage's picture

facepalm.jpg

 

Are you some 17 year old palestinian whose full time "job" is hating on Israel? Not that I think they should get special support from us... but these blogs are hilarious... seriously...

 

If you really think Ron Paul is a "loyal zionist" my god... you must be a fucking retard...

 

Usually I joke about people being government/CIA paid "psyops", but you really make me wonder that you're not one just trying to scare away the "conspiracy theory" type people from Ron Paul... Either that or your one-track mind will explode whenever someone might try to appeal or negotiate with the opposition....

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:28 | 1515294 Van Halen
Van Halen's picture

I liked Rand Paul's idea of cutting one penny from every dollar of government spending. Would love to see anyone debate THAT.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:27 | 1515088 Savyindallas
Savyindallas's picture

apparently far more than you do

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:14 | 1515248 hunglow
hunglow's picture

There's two kind of people.   You dig!

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:33 | 1515309 Lord Welligton
Lord Welligton's picture

you don't know much about rand paul do you?

No I don't.

Did he suck your cock?

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:45 | 1515479 High Plains Drifter
High Plains Drifter's picture

37 junks.?  man you paulistas are fools.............blind fools..........all of you.............:)

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 00:34 | 1515745 teolawki
teolawki's picture

Sorry, but anyone that misses their daily meds and their bedtime deserves a few junks.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:54 | 1515507 gwar5
gwar5's picture

.

 

Rand Paul acts as if he's been in the senate a long time already, but with the common sense of his father.  I could easily see him running for president.

 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:51 | 1515173 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

  Too bad that realist wasn't 30 years younger.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:00 | 1514986 IslandStyle123
IslandStyle123's picture

Ron Paul is the lone voice of sanity in the asylum. 

But he's pissing in the wind.

 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:59 | 1515201 Miss Expectations
Miss Expectations's picture

So shines a good deed in a weary world.

Willy Wonka

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 00:09 | 1515698 Temporalist
Temporalist's picture

That is a Shakespeare quote.  But yes it was in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory too.

Portia:
"That light we see is burning in my hall.
How far that little candle throws his beams!
So shines a good deed in a naughty world."

The Merchant of Venice, Act 5, Scene I

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 07:17 | 1516082 Miss Expectations
Miss Expectations's picture

"And the candle by the light of which she had been reading that book filled with anxieties, deceptions, grief and evil, flared up brighter than ever, lit up for her all that had once been in darkness, sputtered, grew dim, and went out for ever."

Anna Karenina

(Thanks for the Merchant reference)

 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:30 | 1515296 Strike Back
Strike Back's picture

GODAAMMIT I AGREE WITH YOU!!!

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:34 | 1515313 Lord Welligton
Lord Welligton's picture

He's pissing in the debt.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:00 | 1514988 buzzsaw99
buzzsaw99's picture

a trillion dollars only buys a five minute stock rally these days? brief indeud.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:14 | 1515246 TSA Thug
TSA Thug's picture

Consumed by the veracious appetite of the algos. Buy GS.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:50 | 1515495 Bolweevil
Bolweevil's picture

I'm gonna short the shit outta GS just like I'm gonna short your pension (what's left of it) just for spite.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:01 | 1514990 GlassHammer
GlassHammer's picture

I have an oligarchy that runs a super congress.

So from now on the "I voted" sticker will be replaced with "Why bother?"

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:10 | 1515234 pods
pods's picture

I'm out of voting.  It hit me last time I went and did it:

You come out of doing your patriotic duty, feeling like you have the power, flag waving at the polling place.  You feel like you are a part of something bigger, so noble.    Then they give you an "I voted" sticker like a good little 3rd grader.  What's next, you need proof of voting before you can collect unenjoyment, social security, etc?

They need you to give your tacit support of the system, as the system requires it.  

So let's all be good little citizens and vote for more of these scumbags.  Now instead of killing brown people who are on our oil, we are enslaving the youngest and most innocent among us, our children.

Why is it every time the coin flips we hear "well, we wanted to accomplish x,y,z but we just needed..." so vote more of our asses in so we can come up with another excuse.

Withdraw consent.

Stop the use of credit.  All of it.  Have a contest to see who can get the LOWEST credit score.  We enslave ourselves.  Why do you think that they make it seem so great when you get a high credit score?  Because they want you to think that "the proper use of credit is a good thing".  Haha.

Pretty soon they will be giving us "I borrowed" stickers when we take out a loan.

pods

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:40 | 1515464 High Plains Drifter
High Plains Drifter's picture

that's right pods. anytime you vote, you are implicity saying that you agree with the system. now then, how can anyone with a conscience vote, under these circumstances?   then they say, well we have to vote for the lesser of two evils?  what kind of bullshit is that?  lesser of two evils?  give me a break. anyone that goes to washington and wants to do the right thing is taken to the woodshed the first year and told how the cow eats the cabbage. .........what is up is down and what is down is up. what is right is wrong and what is wrong is right. God i am sick of these bastards.......i am sick of them all.............many of you should listen to your uncle hpd, because ladies and gentlemen, many of you are young people and i here to tell you, your world is caving in as we type here. it is your world now. it is your children and their world to come and your grandchildren and their world to come. what are you going to do?  what?  pretend all of this is not happening?  please enough of us have done this and now there is no more time to do this anymore.......none. it is over my friends..........it is over..........wake up...........

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:58 | 1515523 LasVegasDave
LasVegasDave's picture

man, do us all a favor and kill yourself already

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:01 | 1514993 Cassandra Syndrome
Cassandra Syndrome's picture

As Mary Poppins would say.... SuperCongressFuckedUsOverObamaIsAtrocious

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:09 | 1515020 Cheesy Bastard
Cheesy Bastard's picture

If you say it loud enough, you'll always sound precocious...

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:26 | 1515084 knukles
knukles's picture

And if you say it one more time your ass be DHS roasted

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:39 | 1515137 Cheesy Bastard
Cheesy Bastard's picture

What do you mean?  Domestic terrorist.  Bomb.  Assassinate.  I don't think I understand what you are trying to say.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:06 | 1515223 A Lunatic
A Lunatic's picture

Sorry I don't have a witty comment or catchy slogan to donate to the forum. I guess I'm just too pissed off about this whole sorry fucking waste to see the humor in it.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:27 | 1515288 contagiousNY
contagiousNY's picture

It was the original song correct form up to cheesy's 2nd comment. aww! have to laugh sometimes.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:34 | 1515311 Cheesy Bastard
Cheesy Bastard's picture

Sorry to break the chain.  One tweak of the nose for me.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 05:30 | 1515453 Al Gorerhythm
Al Gorerhythm's picture

raise the limit one more time

Your cheque it will be posted.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:10 | 1515025 Tapeworm
Tapeworm's picture

I had to recall the song and make sure that your lyric fits, and it does!

 I gave my firt positiv.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:04 | 1514995 Vint Slugs
Vint Slugs's picture

This (Super Congress) is one way that TPTB will go about marginalizing the Tea Partiers and all of the recalcitrants and obstructionists that won't vote the party line.

 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:21 | 1515061 Blano
Blano's picture

Change "Super Congress" to Politburo.  More accurate.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:29 | 1515098 fuu
fuu's picture

Da comrade.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:36 | 1515123 seek
seek's picture

Bingo, I was about to post the exact same thing.

They're on the cusp of giving up even the faking of democracy.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 23:49 | 1515644 Clearly_Irrational
Clearly_Irrational's picture

Considering their corporate backing and fondness for government and industry partnership I'd say we're talking Fascism not Communism.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 09:27 | 1516410 Silver Dreamer
Silver Dreamer's picture

Oligarchs are always fascists, and communists, whether they know it or not, are always the tools of the oligarchs.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:27 | 1515093 knukles
knukles's picture

Yes, marginalize them "T Partry terrorists who won't let us spend money" as some Democratic Congresscritter said

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:22 | 1515273 Capitalist Sooner
Capitalist Sooner's picture

I believe that was the illustrious VP/plagarist Joe Biden.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 02:21 | 1515889 John_Coltrane
John_Coltrane's picture

Yes, and without any new debt how would the principal dealers (PDs) get all that nice interest and fees from inflation and interest?  Big spenders and their creditors-truly co-dependent!

Debt is slavery-pure and simple.  Centralized government power is the road to serfdom.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:57 | 1515187 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

 My Pumpkin vines could use your help.  Slug bait on my Marigolds is good!

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:43 | 1515338 Lord Welligton
Lord Welligton's picture

marginalizing the Tea Partiers

No.

It is about placing landmines at the heart of the Republic.

And it was a "Republican" that did it.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:47 | 1515485 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

  That comment was so imperial!!!  You make me laugh L/W...

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:23 | 1515435 kridkrid
kridkrid's picture

Wait until you see how quickly the super congress acts after our next false flag. This will all make sense, I believe.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 23:34 | 1515607 BeansBulletsBandaids
BeansBulletsBandaids's picture

I had this exact same thought not long after I heard about the "Super Congress" as part of the potential debt ceiling deal some time last week.

There ain't no way this Politburo will only act on spending issues.  I think the whole circus the last few weeks was just a distraction to slip this crap in.  Just some razzle-dazzle, rope-a-dope...and look here, no here, wait a minute, crap it's the USSA...

 

I'm sickened....

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:48 | 1515486 gwar5
gwar5's picture

.

 

Exactly. This is about preempting 2012 when people are likely to vote in another wave election to stop TPTB. The creature known as the super congess will now be there waiting to prevent reassertion of self government. US sovereignty will now be handed over to the UN facilitated through this body.  

It's also a massive provocation. DHS is certain to be quick to turn upon Americans who don't want to take this lying down.  The recent rhetoric calling the TP terrorists was purposeful --  demonization is always the first step on the road to making it acceptable to jackboot fellow citizens.

If they can do this, everything is on the table. How Soviet-like. The police state build up has been telling us this was coming and they're wasting no time. Gird loins.

 

 

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 09:34 | 1516439 Silver Dreamer
Silver Dreamer's picture

That's an excellent point.  This new "super congress" will of course be able to approve treaties, right?  har har  UN arms ban?  UN occupation forces if martial law is declared and our forces are conveniently spread all of the world already??  It's just a hunch.  Blue helmets on American soil will be the beginning of a hot revolution.  I hope they realize the shit storm they will be walking into.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 03:58 | 1515965 disabledvet
disabledvet's picture

there is no answer. the sooner all of YOU understand that the better. these folks either perceive some vested interest in the status quo or are in fact the status quo. how Barak Obama became this guy will forever just blow my pea sized brain away. anywho--there's a whole new world being created out there. be a part of it if you aren't already. if you succeed in that world--fight for justice and against intolerance and bigotry in every form. it sounds stupid but it's true. i watched an old gf of mine who tried to do this her whole life--but once she went to DC she could hardly wait to start "pulling on the levers of power." that's how i feel like i "know" these folks. will they help their own or be "sucked in"? when you say "my own is the nuclear industry and if you report on Fukushima one more time i'll kill you" then i think you, i and all the rest of the world has its answer! on the flip side is "the entire delegation from South Carolina." they let out the collective "FUCK YOU" to the powers that be. and lookey there would ya: Boeing wants to build airplanes there! IGNORE IT! TALK ABOUT THE WEATHER INSTEAD.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:22 | 1515000 PulauHantu29
PulauHantu29's picture
When Mr El speaks...everybody listens:

Monday, August 01, 2011 3:22:55 PM PIMCO's El-Erian: Debt Deal Will Only Bring Temporary Relief

http://www.ai-cio.com/channel/NEWSMAKERS/PIMCO_s_El-Erian__Debt_Deal_Wil...

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:04 | 1515002 bernorange
bernorange's picture

We approach the precipice.  Ron Paul is in the back seat telling folks to hit the brakes, but Thelma and Louise are determined to drive over the cliff.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:09 | 1515019 Confused
Confused's picture

Lets be honest. His voice may not be loud enough, but it isn't as though he hasn't been screaming for some time now. 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:10 | 1515022 equity_momo
equity_momo's picture

Not quite. We went over the cliff edge some time ago. This is just like the scene in Inception when the truck goes off the bridge.... youre 3 layers deep in this dream and everything is happening in super super slow mo.   The impact is unavoidable. And you aint waking up.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 09:37 | 1516450 Silver Dreamer
Silver Dreamer's picture

Exactly.  We went off that cliff many trillions of dollars ago.  I'll take all of the time I can get before we crash into the ground below however.  People should be using the time to prepare.  Those that continue to say, "nothing will happen" are seriously fooling themselves.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:53 | 1515181 CynicLaureate
CynicLaureate's picture

And the MSM is screaming we need a "balanced" solution, we need to push on the brakes and the gas in equal amounts, or it's not fair.

 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:06 | 1515008 problemfixr
problemfixr's picture

What a mind trick.  "Super" congress, huh?  How about this?  Start slowly and be regular, constitution following, public servants of the people.  Start putting the American people ahead of your own self-interests, for even a month.  That would be super.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:52 | 1515176 DosZap
DosZap's picture

Just exactly what the fascists need.
How any politico idoit could GIVE away their duties to a Super Congress is beyond the pale.

What's to keep these fkrs from deciding on a few OTHER issues, like U.N. treaty signings,maybe some Gun Control?, and a Poyus that wil sign in a nano second.

With NO right to filibuster,nor call for debate.......INsanity supreme!.

Hell, go HOME, you just gave the entire field of play away.And you call yourselves Representaives?.With no cards, you cannot be in the game.

Screw me,we have lost our collective minds.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:21 | 1515267 TwelfthVulture
TwelfthVulture's picture

Hell, while you were watching they conducted regular official business, then debated a debt ceiling increase bill (with no budget in sight for over 2 years) WITHOUT A QUORUM, then call back a QUORUM to vote on the bill which was just debated WITHOUT A QUORUM.  We, collectively as a nation, pay no attention to what they do.  Why should they give a fuck what we want?  The nation can survive a Barak Obongo, the nation I fear will not survive a plurality that voted him into office.

 

Hell.  I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict NO SPENDING CUTS WILL BE ENACTED.  That's my prediction.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:32 | 1515305 contagiousNY
contagiousNY's picture

Clean house or die.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:08 | 1515014 Caviar Emptor
Caviar Emptor's picture

I love my debt! 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:25 | 1515282 TSA Thug
TSA Thug's picture

Well said. When you manage yourself with discipline some of the tools that you have been presented with can lead to a wonderful amount of prosperity.

Personal responsibilities. Let's take stock and stop the blame game.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:08 | 1515016 working class dog
working class dog's picture

Maybe if they are lucky they can get Rubin, Summers and Leavitt along with Greenspan to sit on the commission, they'd  get er done ,

 

This bunch should be renamed from the dream team to the hillbilly financial investigation committee. he he.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:09 | 1515021 RiverRoad
RiverRoad's picture

It sure is a lot easier for the banksters and TPTB to control Everything through the Super Congress Cabal.  Will the American people really stand for this????!!!!!

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:10 | 1515023 km4
km4's picture


Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of this deal is the “Super Congress” provision. This is nothing more than a way to disenfranchise the majority of Congress by denying them the chance for meaningful participation in the crucial areas of entitlement and tax reform. It cedes power to draft legislation to a special commission, hand-picked by the House and Senate leadership. The legislation produced by this commission will be fast-tracked, and Members will not have the opportunity to offer amendments. Approval of the recommendations of the “Super Congress” is tied to yet another debt ceiling increase.

 

Welcome to the new Amerika folks !

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 20:18 | 1515056 Tapeworm
Tapeworm's picture

Imagine how bought the Super-Members (dual) would be if the PTB were able to eliminate bribes to the lower vermin congresscritters and lavish it upon the Supers. What a way to reduce the expence of buying the congreff. The grifters of K Street would have to downsize some if the Super-Congress went through. Their low level professional lobbyists won't be needed when the non-supers aren't worth the expense.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:18 | 1515262 wisefool
wisefool's picture

terrible and unseemly snarkiness, but it is one of those days: That would put alot of actual whores out of business. We already know the lower rungs are upto 3 per night. And Bawney has access to his own brothel.  how many actual whores could these supers physically consume? Maybe a billet for 24x7 "non sexual relations?" Clinton style?

I am going to invest in the desk industry that allows for hot swapping two "servicers" at a time.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:44 | 1515331 chemystical
chemystical's picture

K Street?   I'm more curious as to how many kikes from J Street will infest the Super Congress.   Betting my nuts that they'll be more disproportionate there than their already grossly disproportionate numbers in the House and the Senate.  If blacks were overrepresented by the same 650% that Jews are, and there were consequently 78 black US Senators, would the rest of us be permitted to notice that??  Or how about if EVERY SCOTUS justice was black and the next 11 Justices were also black?   Would we be permitted to notice that?  Ad nauseum.   Anyone who notices the joooz gross overrepresentation in all things criminal is ipso facto anti-Semitic  0 just ask them.  (As if the bulk of them have any more Semitic DNA than my dogs).

 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:42 | 1515332 chemystical
chemystical's picture

K Street?   I'm more curious as to how many kikes from J Street will infest the Super Congress.   Betting my nuts that they'll be more disproportionate there than their already grossly disproportionate numbers in the House and the Senate.  If blacks were overrepresented by the same 650% that Jews are, and there were consequently 78 black US Senators, would the rest of us be permitted to notice that??  Or how about if EVERY SCOTUS justice was black?   Would we be permitted to notice that?  Ad nauseum.   Anyone who notices the joooz gross overrepresentation in all things criminal is ipso facto anti-Semitic  0 just ask them.  (As if the bulk of them have any more Semitic DNA than my dogs).

 

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 22:36 | 1515461 LasVegasDave
LasVegasDave's picture

Maybe its because you have done nothing with your life and need someone to blame.

sucks to be you.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!