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Ron Paul's Statement On The Budget Control Act And On "Super Congress"
Not one but two letters today (link to prior here) from a very digusted Ron Paul, in which he once again dissects the complete farce that is the "spending" cut bill (if by spending one means slightly lowering the angle of attack on future government expenditures well over and above the revenue slope) and also adds his thoughts on the farce that is the "Super Congress."
Statement On The Budget Control Act
Rather than raising the debt limit, Congress should recognize the federal government has reached debt saturation and therefore stop incurring new debt! Federal revenues for 2012 likely will amount to about $2.2 trillion, an amount roughly equal to the 2004 federal budget. To balance the 2012 budget, Congress simply needs to adopt 2004 spending levels. Was the federal government really too small just 8 years ago?
But Washington has a serious spending addiction-- and in spite of all the talk about spending cuts, there are none contained in today’s legislation. According to the non-partisan CATO Institute, this bill merely commits Congress to spending less than it otherwise would. Even if this Congress could bind a future congress, I doubt many Americans would define a cut as spending less on unconstitutional programs than Congress originally planned to spend. The bill also assumes large tax increases in its revenue projections, with the expiration of the Bush tax cuts at the end of 2012 calculated into the “baseline” numbers. This assumption will make it very difficult politically for Republicans to extend current tax rates beyond 2012.
Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of this deal is the “Super Congress” provision. This is nothing more than a way to disenfranchise the majority of Congress by denying them the chance for meaningful participation in the crucial areas of entitlement and tax reform. It cedes power to draft legislation to a special commission, hand-picked by the House and Senate leadership. The legislation produced by this commission will be fast-tracked, and Members will not have the opportunity to offer amendments. Approval of the recommendations of the “Super Congress” is tied to yet another debt ceiling increase. This guarantees that Members will face tremendous pressure to vote for whatever comes out of this commission-- even if it includes tax increases. This provision is an excellent way to keep spending decisions out of the reach of members who are not on board with the leadership's agenda.
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Why aren't they court martialed?
Step up pussies. Are you sworn to protect the law or man?
The bond vigilantes will step in to stop this illusionist act, create a crisis that no shill Super Congress will possibly be able to trick anyone with, and the U.S. may be saved as the incumbent bums get thrown out next year for an army of Ron Pauls.
Or, 'The Housewives of Moscow" becomes the U.S. reality-escapism smash hit of the 2012-13 season.
Concentrate all power into a into a select small and elite group of politicians who are not accountable to the citizenry on a particular election cycle or are planning to make their career move to Goldman earlier than normal. This will help isolate the entire politburo from the people they pretend to represent and allow them almost zero accountability when things get extremely bad. In the future you can expect to vote for your representative with the hope that one day he will gain enough tenure to become valuable enough for the syndicate to bribe him to be on their super committee composing the numerous new laws and rules you will live by as an American serf. This is democracy in it's finest hour and George Soros is swelling with pride right now.
Ron Paul is right. There were NO CUTS in this bill. they just reduced how much more they were going to allow themselves to increase spending. Every one who voted for this bill should be kicked out of office in 2012. Anyone who runs on the platform "I will never vote for a debt ceiling hike" will win, the poeple are sick of this Bs. Read any forum, lot of anger out there.
It doesnt matter though. Tax revenues will be so short of their projections that the ceiling will be in jeopardy by 4Q2012-1Q2013. And then, TSWHTF.
tea party has become controlled opposition. are there any true believers out there that would dispute this? listen folks, it is like everything else we see these days was it all was just one big freakin lie.......i am sorry but that is the way it is and always was ...........
http://www.henrymakow.com/tea_party_is_controlled_opposi.html
there is only one way out of this mess. we must take it from them before they complete their plan........or else it is over for you and I, for your children and your grandchildren etc etc.......this is the final call........
You underestimate the power of "Little Teeny Super Congress" when it pops right up before your eyes.
It was modeled on a concept as simple as Sesame Street... video here: http://tradewithdave.com/?p=7537
Dave Harrison
www.tradewithdave.com
"if by spending one means slightly lowering the angle of attack on future government expenditures well over and above the revenue slope"...Wow, nice wording! You can also draw similarity of the economy with that of Wind Sheer. Everyone worries about economic headwinds, but its the tailwind (the Dollar climbs in value) that really kills-off any meaningful progress in exports, and sends the economy into the dirt. If you don't/can't lift interest rates and taxes (Lift), then an economic tailwind can be a killer.
Cut expenditures by 10% across the board now. Raise revenues (taxes) by 10% now.
And my personal governance fantasy...
Anyone who wishes to run for government office is immediately ineligible for that position. Make being a congressman like jury duty: "Oh shit, honey, I have to be the senator from Iowa for two years."
I'm a banker. A lady came in to talk to me today. She has $10k in credit card debt. Her solution was to borrow more money. I said to her, "Don't you understand that you can't fix debt with more debt?" She gave me a blank stare. For the briefest of moments, I thought about stabbing her in the neck and taking her out of the gene pool. We talked about budgets and getting out of debt and saving money. She left massively dissatisfied, and will probably go to another bank down the street and get a loan.
As a nation we have 3 options. Default, hyperinflation, or years of painful sacrifice to get our financial house in order. I am willing to follow the third path, but none of our political leaders have the vision to lead us into sanity. The most likely outcome is what ZH has become...a financial Mad Max with a lot of angry peeps looking to get over on those that have led us here.
Operation Northwoods Bitchez!
The United States of America died today.
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/baldung/ages/ages-woman-death.jpg
American Pie
Super Congress? Does this mean it will be even more dysfunctional than Congress Congress? Is that even possible?
Seems to me that when faced with a problem, Americans like forming committees or. "What should we do about the deficit? Let's form a commission" (Simpson-Bowles). A year later, "What should we do about the deficit? Let's form a Super Congress."
I can't wait for next year when Congress and the Super Congress roll out the Super Duper Congressional Commission on Deficit Reduction Committee Ad Hoc Working Group.
Super Congress? Does this mean it will be even more dysfunctional than Congress Congress? Is that even possible?
Seems to me that when faced with a problem, Americans like forming committees or. "What should we do about the deficit? Let's form a commission" (Simpson-Bowles). A year later, "What should we do about the deficit? Let's form a Super Congress."
I can't wait for next year when Congress and the Super Congress roll out the Super Duper Congressional Commission on Deficit Reduction Committee Ad Hoc Working Group.
In honor of our supercongressional overlords...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI6Qdoq679I
i contributed $300 to the Ron Paul campaign today out of disgust. Its a ton of money to me today, but worthhless soon if someone doesn't stand up. If Ron Paul can/does stand up... its well worth it.
Moon Lighting cash?
Should've bought 6 oz of Ag and an 1/8th of dope.
I always wondered how much political theater $2 Trillion bought, And we only had to destroy the US economy to see it....
I want to like Ron Paul, but honestly he reminds me more and more of a Fed reserve president. says a lot, most of it even intelligent, and then he votes the other way.
SUPER CONGRESS POLITBURO STATEMENT:
BOW DOWN TO YOUR OVERLORDS AMERICAN IDIOTS! GRAB YOUR ANKLES LIVESTOCK!
We already have a Super Congress of the kind the Senator alludes, it's called the Supreme Court!
If you don't believe me, ask them to review the 'strict' constitutionality of this provision and tell me how Justice Scalia votes!
I have always been a huge Ron Paul supporter. I am amazed at the number of people who talk smack about him. He has always done what he says and says what he means. One intelligent, decent guy, and they treat him like the rest of the ruling class liars. Kinda strange, kinda sad.
Maybe it's you.
is this Green Horn ville?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAyDmJvjxbg
Advoc8tr Thank you for having a brain. I'm tired of defending Ron and Rand's track record to people who care not to research what the constitution means. The civil rights laws created a superior class of citizen. that's not consitutional. furthermore the constitution already protected those peoples' rights anyway! we just needed a politician named Ron Paul to remind us of that!
revolt,
learn and play bocci
Next step - a military coup! Most Americans would applaud a military takeover especially if it was followed by the quick execution for treason of all 535 members of Congress, the cabinet and vice president and president. We could have a national day of liberation!
You morons. Don't you realize that the white trash population of America, juked up on meth and steroids, half drunk and veging out on a nightly dose of television will never vote for Ron Paul. It's sad I know but they love the Obummer with his black Santa Claus act. They're all going into the shitcan of history and personally it can't be fast enough. Down with the USSR - down with the USSA!
Absolutely disgusting on how the government does not care about our constitution or people anymore. Yet the people just sit back and don't care.
Time to stop buying treasuries and munis and other government debt. They already take part of your income; don't voluntarily lend them more. No more buying government debt directly, via ETFs, via mutual funds or via 401k. Do your part to starve Leviathan - stop lending it money.
Whatever we don't buy the FED will ... Party on America
Salute to the one person in Washington who tells the truth. Period.
For all the shit said on this thread, let's appreciate the simple truths in life. A second greenie goes to you dude.
It's clear that smoke and mirrors prevail in Washington. The only way I can see to get things back in control of the people, by the people, and for the people, is for all taxpayers to refuse to pay any future taxes until there is a balanced budget. Given the recent plethora of doomsday predictions, this message could have a profound effect on the political shenanigans we have allowed to go on for so long. If you don't pay taxes, it doesn't matter if you withhold or not. No tax payments - no vote on this one.
This could go viral but it needs an organizer. How about you and Ron Paul, Tyler?
There was a very brief period in time; namely the early part of 2009 when I thought the republic could be saved. The herd was sufficiently riled. But of course I overestimated them. The well tested science of "airframe shock testing" was what I was observing. It was not a revolution of the sheeple masses, quite the opposite. It was part of a well designed action/reaction experiment.
The debt debate you just observed was another example of "airframe shock testing". You had Tea Party Boehner voting the same as Nancy Pelosi. Amazingly it held up quite well. You simply guage the publics reaction and re-calibrate the sytem accordingly ...
"Airframe Shock Testing, The Economy, and Politics
An intelligent observer would notice the similarity to what an aircraft engineer does in engineering an airframe and what happens in economics and politics.
When a desired shape is found for an airframe, engineers build a scale test frame and subject it to enormous stresses using giant hydraulic machines that test the bending and breaking limits of the wings and fuselage. This is done to establish load limits, both predicted and absolute (breaks), and establish where certain equipment should go. Due to the nature of aluminum and composites, this is different for each and every airframe design, but absolutely necessary to predict the outcome of stresses.
SO, similarly, the way the economy works and predicting how it (any economy) will function under stress is done in a similar fashion. Simulations are run against real world situations to see how much stress the economy can take given a change in different variables. Much like how electronic circuits are tested as well, but that is another topic for later discussion.
For example, when the price of oil goes up, economists watch how the economy manages the stress and can make predictions of what it can take in the future in terms of increased prices.
The same goes for every commodity and anything traded on the market. When the predicted stress will be to high, the prices are adjusted to balance supply and demand, but this can only be done by stressing it...to test where the breaking point is and avoid it while maintaining balance.
The same thing applies absolutely to politics, and that is what you are witnessing now in the US elections. While you debate endlessly, there are those who control things that are watching what is happening.
The public is being shock tested to see what kind of stresses the society can endure under given projected circumstances.
The election of a woman VP is a test, as is the acceptance of a half-black man to run the country.
Whoever wins will change our country's history forever, and both will cause stresses on peoples ideals and thinking. This is normal and designed to see if the country will break, so to speak.
Without shock testing, accurate projections of what will happen in the future cannot be made, and how the sheep will behave cannot be predicted.
Since the sheeple often are often unpredictable and dangerous, their actions must be predicted to maintain public safety, absolutely." http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=368_1223970260
Now that the sheep have indicated a high docile factor under shock, expect much more to come. Grab as much PMs you can!
Folks - mobilize for the next election, and vote all these fuckers out of office. America needs YOU.
Ron Paul wrote:
>> This is nothing more than a way to disenfranchise the majority of Congress by denying them the chance for meaningful participation in the crucial areas of entitlement and tax reform.
Congress has had ample opportuntiy to participate in meaningful entitlement or tax reform and showed no inclination to do either.
I went over to Ron Paul's site and got 403 Forbidden. I have never had trouble viewing his government site before.
http://www.paul.house.gov/
For all those people who want to opt out of voting,
why not lobby for an addition to the ballot sheet-
A box marked 'none of the above' ie overhaul the system.
Once you get enough votes, then you can make demands (and withhold your taxes)
Stupid congress assigns a super congress
to deflect their failure to address
the need to stop spending, no more debt.
it's moral fortitude they don't get
take your bullshit superiority and your success
kleptocratic disguise your phony largesse
...I met with Ron on the Hill at his office. He gave me a copy of the Constitution. When I got to the last page it had an offer to donate to one of his causes. Donations are tax deductable. http://bible.cc/luke/20-24.htm
the curtain was pulled back on the power elite strings on congress and many more people see the criminal conduct of this government..
what a beat down they gave those who had known the truth of this government in DC.
this will not sit well with those who have come to a "THEY LIVE" moment.
Alien monsters hold no match to that gang of DC and NYC elite
do not fool yourself this was not done well too many are now aware of the inside dealings of the elite who control us.
More money for Obuma's wars and HLS pat downs is on the way.
any way we can get a class action lawsuit for negligence per se?
The dream of representative government has officially become a nightmare. We no longer even have the illusion of representation. If our federal government is forming a "super congress," it is time for We the People to be forming our militias.
Amen to that brother.
If this kind of BS were to happen here in the UK, we'd be 1000 deep cracking skulls in Westminster.
It's this kind of democracy-undermining shit that gives Faux news it's raison d'etre ..
I'm all for RP and commend him for raising difficult subjects that the sheeple mostly want to brush under the carpet (like not being able to pay their bills without going further into debt) but at some point the US taxpayers are going to have to stand up for themselves .. or is the revolution going to be farmed out to a bought-off pressure group (like everything else, it would seem) ?
Excuse my cynicism, I'm tired and drunk.
It is by voluntary action for Americans to actually pay federal taxes. You don't have to pay any taxes unless you choose to. (if you choose not to pay federal taxes, then you don't have to pay state taxes either). If everyone voluntarily chose not to pay their taxes, I think it would be interesting to see what the non federal federal reserve would do then....
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