Rounding Error, Short Squeeze, And Cost Of Recap

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Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:22 | 1749306 Careless Whisper
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The Careless Whisper Morning Report


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Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:34 | 1749565 skohiu
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Harry Markopolos Likely Whistleblower Behind Bank OF NY Fraud Charges

Not likely, he was a guest on CNBS last month and asked what the next big issue would be....he specifically mentioned BNY Mellon and currency transactions.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:42 | 1749595 Careless Whisper
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“Bank of New York is going to go down, Eric.  Between Bank of New York Mellon and State Street, these two institutions have stolen between $6 to $10 billion from tens of millions of Americans retirement savings accounts.  It’s been a hell of a crime spree for the bank, but now they are being brought to justice.” ... Harry Markopolos

Strong language, don't you think?


Fri, 10/07/2011 - 12:11 | 1749890 covert
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this is the short trend


Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:25 | 1749322 TradingJoe
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Me Think Short Is Right Side Of Trade...For Now!

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:26 | 1749323 SheepDog-One
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The 'big short' out there is the FED, using your money to squeeze stocks higher.

Have to ask yourself 'why' though. Trap the last of the bulls piling in higher for a big plunge, is what I come up with. When theyre lying to get people to pile in for a euphoria panic rally leaving the station, I'd be VERY leery.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:27 | 1749547 CPL
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Don't count on facebook, twitter or FOREX ordering systems btw.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:59 | 1749664 Randall Cabot
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Wishful thinking on Beck's part, he just wants gold to go up.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:29 | 1749332 gringo28
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au contraire, it's this type of attitude and resistance that will continue to drive this upward, perhaps all the way to SP500 1230/1250 area before a pause....the shorts got a nice little pop but they seem to forget that they literally lost their shorts until August. pigs get fat...

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:44 | 1749391 SheepDog-One
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Nah, no way do I believe theres a bunch of shorts with endless cash willing to hand it all over every day to pump the markets higher. Its the FED.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:45 | 1749394 TradingJoe
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Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:50 | 1749421 SheepDog-One
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The pigs right now are the Hindu bulls...doesnt take much to get them believing markets just rise forever from here. Probably all this gain will be gone over the next few trading days.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:29 | 1749333 bill1102inf
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Hope you traded the es spike and sell off pre market today.  

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:31 | 1749342 slaughterer
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Peter, everything you say is correct, but with earnings season coming, and the media not reporting on negative developments in Europe (there seems to be a media blackout over the last two days on the EZ distinegration except for the BBC interview posted last night on ZH), the ES will take a good week or two or even a month to double bottom to 1070--and that only if the weak-handed shorts can manage to hold on till then.    With MMs and HFTs on "short kill" setting, time for shorts to be nimble. 

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:46 | 1749398 SheepDog-One
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I dont believe any of it, this is a momentary desperation pop courtesy of the FED to keep BULLS placated and not selling until next week when theyre completely wiped out.

Beck Has 'Verified ... An Attack On Wall Street Next Week' Tells Listeners To Have Cash And Food Rea - YouTube

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:32 | 1749351 anynonmous
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pete from what I can see unless you have the perfect track record of one Dennis Gartman, looks to me like you should be sporting some pretty nasty whipsaw burns on your trading fingers

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:39 | 1749378 edmondantes
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Belgium GDP in 2010 = €350 bn

say 40% of Dexia's assets are worthless ... say €228 bn... 65% of Belgian GDP in one hit (fortunately might be shared with France ... still 32.5% of GDP)

and let's not forget KBC... €320bn of assets

oh ... and ING... er, €1.3 trillion in assets ... (shared with Netherlands)

and Belgium's debt to GDP is already well north of 100%

and let's do the numbers for Italy, Spain, France, Germany... in each case banks in aggregate are far far larger than the sovereign

how do a bankrupt set of sovereign countries that are smaller than the banks recapitalise said banks using resoucres which, erm, they themselves cannot borrow in the market...

their only way out is to print trillions of EUR...


Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:46 | 1749402 qussl3
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How much of those assets are loans to Asia?

NOBODY is accounting for the hit on those assets if EZ blows.

Ponzi collapse if anyone defaults.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:47 | 1749405 SheepDog-One
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And printing trillions of Euros is no way out at all.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:14 | 1749501 oogs66
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yeah, it has to be to print, nothing else can come close to working

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:44 | 1749392 HedgeAccordingly
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at this rate... 1270 by next wedneday LOL. come the fuck on

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:48 | 1749414 SheepDog-One
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Or this by next Wednesday- Beck Has 'Verified ... An Attack On Wall Street Next Week' Tells Listeners To Have Cash And Food Rea - YouTube

Which way ya bettin....manic euphoria rules from here on out in a depression? Or do they got a nice false flag attack coming that makes 9-11 look tiny and removes every bit of market wealth out there to banker control?

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:56 | 1749449 fuu
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Is this like the attack on Iran that never happened?

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 11:02 | 1749673 SheepDog-One
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Nothing ever happens, till it happens.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 15:03 | 1750618 fuu
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Timing is everything.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:08 | 1749480 DeadFred
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Between 1270 and 1100 by next Wednesday I go with 1100

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:49 | 1749416 Steel_Preacher
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Europe has seen hyperinflation before. If they go ink crazy it would be ugly. I can't see them trying to print their way out. Any euro experts?

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:56 | 1749447 qussl3
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I'm no expert but i think many here are missing a key component in hyperinflation of the classical sort we are so familiar with.

Print and spend.

Zim, Weimar....etc all had govts who printed currency and disbursed it to the populace to spend.

There is nothing of the sort in EZ now, Germany is squeezing the PIIGS into primary surpluses - ie cutting govt spending, so that tranmission mechanism for velocity simply doesnt exist today.

My guess is the bailout will come and in the form of ECB QE, but only when the various govts have commited to NOT spending more than they take in reciepts and are supervised.

The flaw in that scheme is if somehow the QE liquidity leaks into the pricing mechanism in another form like commodities speculation.

I think they can keep this ponzi up, but they wont be able to stop the commodities spiking, with periodic crashes, the key will be the insiders piling physical.

The bankers themselves will blow up the PM markets via their buying of physical.

Just my 2c.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:29 | 1749556 mess nonster
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I think this is the first coherent comment yet...deflation is inevitable. Go look at your closest Peal Oil chart.

But not tomorrow, or next week...

So far aggregate gold values equal total global currency at "around" 5-7 trillion...

Besides gold as defacto backstop to all currency, if bankers buy and hoard physical, this drives the price of PMs up, thus funding cotinued QE by artificial shortage.

Right now the goal is to shore up zombie banks everywhere. Who cares if they won't loan? The little people can just eat cake... ...or gov't cheese. If sovereign and continental (EZ) QE falters, then QE moves to some sort of global mechanism... IMF? SDRs?

It can't last forever, but as long as it lasts for today...

Watch for any big increase in physical  gold supply- this is the big dump, and a sign it is all over.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 11:05 | 1749688 SheepDog-One
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right quss13 Ive been pointing out for a long time THIS is nothing like the printing of Weimar or those cases, the people HAD the printed money to spend!

Today only the banks have all these printed trillions and theyre just sitting on it all. 

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:49 | 1749418 praps
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That was no short squeeze yesterday. Looks much more like a leaked NFP. Selling off now to take profits on trade is the evidence.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:52 | 1749426 SheepDog-One
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Sell the news, trap euphoric bulls calling for S&P 1,250 by Monday.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:22 | 1749529 DeadFred
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What yesterday looked like to me was a short squeeze that was struggling as the smart money sold into the rally.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:51 | 1749424 ronincap
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explain why gbp is up after announcing qe2


Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:59 | 1749455 qussl3
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GBP collapse 13 big figs already, this round of QE was probably the most telegraphed in history.


Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:52 | 1749429 kito
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how is that cyber attack on nyse going? 

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 11:03 | 1749681 SheepDog-One
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Well they were specific, Oct 10th at 3:15. Who knows?

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:06 | 1749472 yabs
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these rallies make me nervous

maybe they have saved the Ponzi scheme?

just as we startt heading to new lows it bounces back with a stick save

lets hope this sucker goes down soon

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:08 | 1749481 riley martini
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Since the Exchange starts the rally at 10:00 every day it looks like PPT price pump.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:10 | 1749490 yabs
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good points

thats my way of thinking that with eacdh QE it doesn't get into the hands of citizens but ONLY goes into speculation done by the TBTFs

However once commodities such as oil rise to a certain level, it causes a crash

this will continue indefinately until you said it the bankers themselves see thewriting on the wall and use the money to buy physical

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:37 | 1749574 mess nonster
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You got it qssl3. Watch any glitch that could spike oil... Mid -east violence, gloomy production reports, etc. This is the wild card, and it WILL be played, HAS to be played, because it's the one hand not card-sharked by TPTB global banksters.

As soon as oil spikes and po'folks collapse under austerity AND skyrocketing oil prices, the the collapse begins at home. When that happens, zombie banks can give each other all the monopoly money they want, but it won't matter. 

In deflation Cash Is King. Gold, at best par with cash. Watch for the big PM dump and the gold free-fall.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:15 | 1749502 dvsteenk
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i think we're going down again, as we fell out of the short squeeze trading range that broughtus from 1170 to 1270 in the last three days

but i'm still holding my breath

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 11:16 | 1749719 Randall Cabot
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Well, you know that as soon as the short squeeze has run its course, the shorts will be shorting again-with a vengeance!

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:19 | 1749518 disabledvet
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the move up has been sudden. could need a respite with the good numbers.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:23 | 1749534 TheBreaks
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I'm not sure I agree that you were willing to give the benefit of the doubt to them at any time, even at 1080 - from what I read it seemed you pretty much constantly said they were screwing it up at all times.  You called the short squeeze after it started, but you were all bear and pretty scathing of the Europeans at the bottom of it.

Short at 1170 - a clear call.  Interesting to see how it unfolds over the next few sessions, and if you make an equally clear call on when you'd unwind that.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:29 | 1749555 yabs
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lets jhope so dvsteenk

can you imagine if the matrix survives ?

I cannot take that

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 15:08 | 1750647 paul_Liu
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Tyler, any chance the Germany and France could agree something or at least say they agree something? This happend in the IMF weekend. 

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