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Sat, 12/17/2011 - 18:29 | 1990364 SheepleLOVEched...
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yea, # 3 is RON PAUL

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 18:55 | 1990394 d_senti
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I apologize for hijacking for an off-topic post, but I thought this was important enough to warrant it.

I've heard directly in a verifiable and reliable way (that I won't discuss) that the worst-case scenario regarding the downed drone in Iran is true. China was directly involved and was in possession of our technology on the drone, and was therefore able to jam its signal and directly hijack it. I'm sure many of you, like me, already assumed this to be the case, but I have now had it confirmed.

Sorry I can't elaborate, and given that I'm a random Internet guy I'm certainly not the most reliable source myself in theory, but it is nonetheless true. We have a serious national security breach by which China is able to directly steal out classified technology.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 19:02 | 1990410 bank guy in Brussels
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The murders of thousands of civilians in the world by those American drone planes, are war crimes and acts of true 'terrorism'. Such weapons are satanic.

If any nation can via technological means, put those criminal attacking drone planes out of business, God bless them and Godspeed.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 23:26 | 1990676 AldousHuxley
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drone planes = aerospace industry = cutting edge USA MANUFACTURING jobs

 

One of largest US export is aerospace tech where not many 3rd world is able to easily copy.

 

We were supposed to show it off, then sell some drone orders to balance out US exports, but Iranians got it with Chinese tech given the mint condition (obviously no rocket defense was involved). Chinese figured it out using good old industrial spying and reverse engineering.

 

Perhaps few underpaid foreign engineers sold the secret to Chinese government agents for some cash, but that's what happens when STEM-retarded society values consumer market web2.0 bs Groupon more then real technological advancement like Drones.

 

Cold war is ON!.....this time it is US vs. China in drone tech.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 00:58 | 1990750 Oh regional Indian
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Yup, no doubt about that one. Back in the day, I was a senior management "person" in a huge Fortune 50 MIC conglomerate. It was the most in-efficient comapny (fiscally) and there was always a strange sense around the MIC parts of the company.

Now I know why they never had to watch their budgets. Uncle Sam was an easy paying customer.

Merchants of death indeed. Bad Karma to boot!

And the price of wheat doubling? That is the one to watch. Doubling might be conservative. Imagine what this screwed up year has done to the planting/harvesting cycles and this winter has not really shown it's "stormy" hand yet.

ori

/this-that-and-the-4th-reich/

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:38 | 1991573 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AldousHuxley remarked:

Perhaps few underpaid foreign engineers sold the secret to Chinese government agents for some cash

The Chinese probably got it through a peer-to-peer file sharing program after finding some idiot defense contractors which were too stupid to realize that they were sharing their entire C drive (and network drives) on Limewire.

 

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 23:44 | 1990694 youLilQuantFuker
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Jeebus you are kidding right? I mean it's the Chicoms he's talking about and the Americans are not suppose to be handing out hanukkah gifts to strangers, right?

RIGHT!?

[hint: the is such thing as an Asian Muslim(big funking no no)]

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 01:11 | 1990763 disabledvet
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eh, we've killed far more with our mind martians. of course we let the women live--part of creating a more "balanced world" for the "chosen ones." i recommend a "hearty distancing from that device" approach to life from here on out. Break out "ye olde butter churner" if you're looking for some excitement.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 19:27 | 1992333 Excursionist
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Newsflash:  the drone genie is out of the bottle.  The question now is whether you want China to have the technology as well if it doesn't already.  Your implied belief that the PRC will altruistically disrupt U.S. drone missions for the benefit of human rights actually made me smile.  After all, China and human rights go together like "arm and hammer" or "bacon and eggs."  Right?  The cognitive dissonance is Brussels seems worse than ever.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 19:32 | 1990446 clymer
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d_senti.. You are a verifiable tool. Please go troll on the goarmy.com site. There are plenty of soft minds out there for your attempted infiltration.

Besides, you scripted DONKEY, WE GAVE, AND CONTINUE TO GIVE RED CHINA ALL OF OUR TECHNOLOGY VIA THE OUTSOURCING OF OUR ENTIRE ECONOMY IN THE NAME OF FREE-MARKET CORPORATISM, YOU GOD-DAMN FOOL, GO go go go go away pleeeeeeze

thanks.

Kind regards,

Clymer

 

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 19:49 | 1990467 d_senti
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Wow, you're kind of a douche. I'm nobody important and I've had this conversation with that nutjob I-dog before about me being some evil infiltrating mole, which seems to be the go-to attack from every nutball on this site (not saying all are nutballs mind you, but those that are always go that route). Go back and read that convo if you like.

I'm repeating info I heard from a reliable source because I thought that the curious readers here would want to know it. I'm not telling anyone to join the army. I've got nothing but respect for soldiers, but I've never been one and never will be, and am a staunch supporter of Ron Paul and getting out of everybody else's business. I fully believe we've been drumming up propaganda to antagonize Iran. If anything, these facts would make war LESS likely, as I doubt the US military wants to screw with China (for now at least).

You don't believe me? Fine, whatever. Like I said, I'm just some random guy posting on an Internet comment section. I know what I heard and thought I'd be kind enough to share. If you're crazy enough to think the only explanation of what happened was collusion between Obama (who I hate), China and Iran to stage an international incident when he could have just as easily HANDED them the info behind closed doors, then you're not really the kind of person who I was trying to inform. I heard classified info that I thought relevant and important for people to know. If you wanna get all pissy about my small attempt at a public service, be my guest.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 21:19 | 1990564 el Gallinazo
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Well, it's pretty fucking obvious that the drone got hacked as it appeared on Iranian TV in showroom condition.  Either that or they have some terrific autobody technicians.  Not that I give a shit.  I hope all the fuckers end up on the ground, particularly the ones in Montana supposedly going after cattle rustlers.  I'm for leaving that up to Wyatt Earp and his Buntline Special.  We don't need no stinking drones.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 22:11 | 1990608 d_senti
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I agree. What I heard just confirms that it's correct and that China was directly involved.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 00:00 | 1990707 economics1996
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We know this shit.  China won a round.  Now go away.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:49 | 1990891 Non Passaran
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Just bugger off will ya?

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 23:16 | 1990669 LasVegasDave
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Or, is it possible that the US allowed the drone to be hijacked with hidden tracking devices and hidden computer codes to identify Iranian weaknesses to the CIA?

No way it was an accident.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 00:55 | 1990749 AldousHuxley
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At the bottom of the drone, there is a small sticker that reads "Made In China"

 

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 16:55 | 1992106 The Heart
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OMG AH!

How did you know?

The Navy Bought Fake Chinese Microchips That Could Have Disarmed U.S. Missiles:
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/navy-chinese-microchips-weapons-could-hav...
 
U.S. military could be shut down by secret 'back door':
 
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=321477

"Had the flaw not been detected, the chips could have shut down U.S. warships, aircraft, advanced weapons systems and encoded transponders that distinguish friendly aircraft from hostile attackers."

“The revelation is only the latest in a series of incidents that have sent off alarm bells in the Pentagon. China previously was found to have been actively pursuing placing back doors in computer equipment. Several cases have been uncovered in which Internet-capable devices have had Chinese chips in them which also provided a back door into the networks the devices were supposed to protect. The devices were attached not only to industrial and commercial networks but also to networks that were defined as part of the nation's "critical infrastructure."

The Hunt for the Kill Switch:
 
http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/design/the-hunt-for-the-kill-switch

 

.:("got yer back bro"):.

 

 

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 21:21 | 1990566 ninja247
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d_senti, 

 

You are a tool and a troll.

AJ has already exposed your Centcom kind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUvPoA-x1rQ

 

@Tyler Durden, kindly remove this Globalist Pawn.

The globalist have been passing around technologies to "enemies" for many hundreds of years.

Go read None Dare Call It Conspiracy for anyone even slightly confused by what d_senti is saying.

http://www.captaincanadacrusades.ca/articles/none-dare-call-it-conspiracy%5B1%5D.pdf 

 

Keep up the good work Durden and everyone else contributing to ZH.

 

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 21:50 | 1990591 d_senti
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My goodness some of you are retarded. I heard a piece of information that is technically classified. With the intention of being helpful, I hop in Zero Hedge and merely repeat the information I heard. Immediately I am lambasted by a dozen paranoid pseudo-nazis for being a secret mole and a pawn of the globalist agenda.

As I've said already on here before, I'm a 27 year old security guard at a North Dakota airport. I've got a wife and young son and I make 9 bucks an hour. I'm poor and just as pissed off at the level of corruption and collusion that takes place among the elites. I'm vehemently anti-Fed and pro Ron Paul and don't want anything from anyone. I qualify for every govt handout there is and take none of them, because I'm morally opposed to them. I can't count how many times I've promoted these beliefs on Zero Hedge and among every one I know.

There is LITERALLY NO REASON anyone in their right mind would think I am some sort of evil mole conspirator, yet this is maybe the fifth time I've been accused of it here. And why? Because you disagree with me. I pass along info I heard from a valid source without commentary and without elaborating on where it came from because I don't want to get anyone in trouble.

About 3/4 of the people downvoting me would suck off Julian Assange if given the chance. They're tired of govt secrecy and corruption, like I am. I do the very little that I can to shed light on it by revealing some small, some would say inconsequential, fact I heard from a good source and out come the schizos.

Do you realize how f*cking ridiculous it is for you to piss and moan about secrecy, to whine about violations of free speech and support Ron Paul, and then publicly demand that someone be banned because they said something you disagree with (and therefore must be an evil secret agent)? Are you not the same people who piss and moan about Denninger for BANNING any dissenters? You are the epitome of cognitive dissonance and a world class douchebag.

I come to Zero Hedge for intelligent discussion and analysis. And over the last few months you fricking psychos have been pulling this shit more an more. Everyone who doesn't tow the party line is ripped apart and called a "tool" or a "globalist pawn." You, yes you and those like you, are killing intelligent discourse by paranoid ad hominem attacks. Guys like Trav or Chumba, etc., may say some out there things but at least they bring something to the table.

Cut the bullshit and actually DISCUSS what people talk about. If you have nothing to add besides screaming SCHILL! at any dissenters, then kindly shut the f*ck up.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 21:59 | 1990597 BigDuke6
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Chill buddy
I got yer back.

And I'm a hard cunt

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 22:12 | 1990610 Socratic Dog
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Not trying to be patronizing, but...you sound like you're too goddam smart to be an airport security guard.  Use your brain, you can do better than that.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 22:50 | 1990637 mess nonster
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Do you mean he's underachieving, or do you mean his cover-story is unconvincing?

If our sensitive-info delivering friend is underachieving, he can join the rest of us. I find that credible. If he's merely trying to troll up some sort of fiction, it isn't believable at all.

As for the Iranians getting Chinese help, I think they could quite easily have accomplished the capture of the drone by themselves. If they give anyone a peek at it, they will give it to the Russians, in exchange for S-300's.

I'm not saying the Chinese didn;t help them. Anything is possible. I hate drones so much I often fantasize about ways to bring them down myself. Satanic machines indeed.

Ron Paul eats drones for breakfast. Ron Paul is our only hope.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 23:22 | 1990673 d_senti
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Underachiever. Went through life with the whole "you'll do great things" refrain told to me again and again, so I blew it off. I hadn't planned on having a normal family life so it seemed inconsequential to me. But now obviously, with a wife and son, I need to grow up and figure it out.

Then again, you DO seem to be deflecting attention from yourself. Gasp, you're the mole, aren't you?! :)

I don't discount the possibility that the Iranians are capable of pulling it off by themselves. It just doesnt appear to be the case given what I learned. The way I see it, helping Iranians pull this off has nothing but iodized for the Chinese, so it makes sense that they would.

And I see nothing inherently evil with any form of technology, but what they've been doing with these drones is evil, I agree. Especially here in the US. The lack of real consequences for using one is disturbing to say the least.

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 23:59 | 1990705 CompassionateFascist
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If granpa Ron is our "only hope", then the situation is truely hopeless. PS - don't forget Rand.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 04:02 | 1990958 StychoKiller
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There is a tradition that the Persians invented the game of Chess, FWIW.  What everyone should realize is that the only thinking you can really trust is yer own (sometimes, not even yours!).

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 23:00 | 1990651 d_senti
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Ha, thanks. I got a 33 on my ACT and have a very intelligent family (sounds arrogant saying that, but I'm trying to be honest without bragging). I know I can do better and intend to. I seriously considered going back to school for accounting but after some helpful advice from the ZH community decided against it for now.

I'm losing my job in four weeks because our contract is up and they aren't renewing it (went over budget); I don't really know what to do. I'm going for a few different jobs but nothing certain yet. I'd just do some good, honest grunt labor but I'm disabled and can't do any of that stuff. I'm willing to work my butt off and earn my way, but opportunities for me have been scarce. Any advice is always welcome, and I don't find it patronizing at all.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 00:46 | 1990746 UP Forester
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Go to a good, quick Gunsmith school.

They'll be needed posthaste.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:01 | 1991639 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Gunsmithing is a valuable skill which will continue to be needed and which is not subject to offshore outsourcing.

General repair is another field which will see increasing demand. Over the last 30-40 years, the United States has become a throwaway society, the consequence of which is a diminishing number of people with repair skills.

If you're looking to go to school, an option you might want to consider is tattoo removal. A lot of young people over the last twenty years got tattoos, and my guess is that a significant portion of them will end up regretting it. If you choose this route, make sure you receive training from a place that can provide you with the credentials you'll need to receive any necessary certifications that your state may require.

Best of luck to you and your family.

 

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 01:04 | 1990753 BigDuke6
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Difficult q
I think hard work will always be rewarded in the trades where a reputation can b built rapidly due to the idleness of peers.

If you can't sign up with blackwater.... :)

Plumbing is easy to learn and pays over what it should but it's hard to recommend something without sounding dopey.
Food supply of quality produce and healthcare of an aging and demanding population may b in more demand than others,
Good luck.
If you were in Australia it would be easy , come here and drive a dumper truck in the mines, no training, no experience required, month on month off $150,000 a year.
No worries... Maybe

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:56 | 1990904 Non Passaran
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That's very curious because you don't sound intelligent at all.
Advice: stop pestering us with your idiotic off topic crap and go find a job.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 05:42 | 1991021 d_senti
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And yet, curiously, you have made no less than three "contributions" to this conversation, while I never intended to do anything more than make a single post with some information. But we all know, of course, that the relevance of an internet comment section is sacrosanct, and these threads never go off on tangents. In what way, specifically, do I appear unintelligent? Please enlighten me.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:01 | 1991637 FeralSerf
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His writing skills suggest someone that could get a better job than a security guard.  Maybe he has a better job than that?  I don't know -- just wondering.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:49 | 1991321 tabernac
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We have a shortage of engineers, especially computer science.  I am speaking with first hand knowledge of someone who is having trouble hiring these skills.  Yes, a lot of these jobs have gone offshore, but there is still a huge shortage onshore (maybe because everyone decided to go into finance, law, and real estate after the dot com bubble burst).  My guess is that this shortage will get worse as the economy continues to tank (i.e. more incentive to replace workers with automation).

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:29 | 1991705 Winston Smith 2009
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I don't know how disabled you are, but I'd recommend getting into anything relating to medical care that you can handle.  Pharmacological and medical assistant degrees don't take four years.

Best College Majors

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Sun, 12/18/2011 - 01:49 | 1990795 Mentaliusanything
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A security Guard at ND airport , married, male one son - and a verified IP adresss. 

Nice going my boy, now I have no argument with what you are saying but be aware of how you say it, where and How (and good luck to the person(s) you heard it from.)

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:43 | 1990885 d_senti
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If they come a-knockin, I'll be on here letting you all know.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:14 | 1991669 FeralSerf
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If this is classified information, and it could be, it is only a secret from the American people.   The Iranians, Chinese, Russians and just about anyone else would already know about it.

There's a possibility that this poster is not a security guard at a ND airport and also possible he hasn't got a verified IP address.

Qui bono?

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:51 | 1990892 Non Passaran
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You're an annoying topic hijacker.
Now get lost.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 05:37 | 1991020 d_senti
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I'm sorry that my attempt to inform you has injured your scrolling finger. I look forward to more of your incredible insights.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 09:13 | 1991175 Element
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I'm a 27 year old security guard at a North Dakota airport. I've got a wife and young son and I make 9 bucks an hour. I'm poor and just as pissed off at the level of corruption and collusion that takes place among the elites. I'm vehemently anti-Fed and pro Ron Paul and don't want anything from anyone. I qualify for every govt handout there is and take none of them, because I'm morally opposed to them.

 

Don't ever give out accurate or correct personal details about yourself.  Always fake info.  If this info is accurate it can isolate who you are and where you supposedly heard this rumor.  You think you gave out nothing much but it generates a lot of connections and indicates who you are not, which leaves a far smaller and localised pool that makes it easy to deduce who you are.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:00 | 1991344 LongBallsShortBrains
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Did you really expect that less than some here are retarded?

Thanks for the info. Your post speaks for itself.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 19:59 | 1992364 WhiteNight123129
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For someone making 9 bucks an hour you are very articulate. Either you are a liar or the USA is wasting even more human capital than I thought. That would be even more scary than having China hijacking drones, which is not improbable.

 

 

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 22:50 | 1990638 Abitdodgie
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I live in North Dakota , I use to live in Los Angeles , what the fuck was I thinking.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:08 | 1991659 FeralSerf
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You were thinking that it's too hot in the winter and the freeways are too crowded.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 05:20 | 1991012 UnderDeGun
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Ninja, remember the crappy iPod obozo gave the Queen. Well, I wouldn't be surprised if he's been raining thumb-drives on or ChinE financiers. Actually, there are so many spies in this country the globalists don't have to share shit. With all due respect, of course. ;-)

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 21:52 | 1990596 BigDuke6
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It's poor form to have gone after d senti after he only relayed a perfectly obvious fact.
The Iranians downed that drone themselves? LOL

Course the chinks did it, and now they have access to its tech.

USA keeps handing over the tech..... Fucking stoopid.

Just like the chest thumping patriot goons above.

It's gonna take brains and guile to win this great game

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 01:13 | 1990766 disabledvet
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NAME NAMES! WHAT'S THE SKINNY! FEED US SOME REAL INTEL HERE BUSTER!

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 20:08 | 1990498 ebworthen
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Our corporations have been falling over themselves to give China whatever they want for several decades.

Chinese agents have been in graduate programs stealing research and classified information, sometimes with help, for decades.

We have completely SOLD OUT to China and we help keep their people oppressed and in virtual slavery because it is "good for business."

Sat, 12/17/2011 - 20:20 | 1990512 d_senti
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I agree. Just passin it along.

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