The SDR: The Same Demented Regime

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Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:04 | 1935761 rambler6421
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It's paper.  WOn't work.  Back the dollar by gold.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:08 | 1935773 topcallingtroll
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I hadnt thought about it in such terms, but the SDR is truly fiat's last stand.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:13 | 1935803 Carlyle Groupie
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The only currency that should rule the world is the White Shoe Boy's currency.

FREEDOM to kill more Muzzies!

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:15 | 1935822 trav7777
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what matters is what oil is traded in.  Period.

You get major producers to accept other than dollars, you're fine.  The US is not going to the fucking SDR unless the entire oil exporting world bails on the petrodollar.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:16 | 1935828 Deadpool
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hell, we're not even on metric system...

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 16:13 | 1936056 TheGardener
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Metric system to be abolished soon,
because if an ounce of gold is no longer worth
31.1 metric grams, I should pay attention. But I will probably be picked up for detention before.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 16:27 | 1936096 IBelieveInMagic
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Meh, bullshit essay -- refers to action of "them" -- who is "them"? It is us, the OECD countries just trying to hold on to a net beneficial arrangement in consuming more than what we are contributing. We are doing our best to retain this arrangement... The spoils are not equally divided amongst us but our economies is receiving more than what we are delivering to others.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:24 | 1935863 Carlyle Groupie
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"what matters is what oil is traded in. Period."

What matters to the ZHeeple is finance and killin' Muzzies bitchez!

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:24 | 1935864 FubarNation
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I gotta agree.  I do believe it may be as simple as that.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:34 | 1935906 CClarity
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A very smart guy at Gave-Kal has suggested just that.  How oil could become like a "currency".

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:54 | 1935979 He_Who Carried ...
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The US Republican race is dominated by ignorance, lies and scandals. The current crop of candidates have shown such a basic lack of knowledge that they make George W. Bush look like Einstein. The Grand Old Party is ruining the entire country's reputation.

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Thu, 12/01/2011 - 16:56 | 1936234 Iwanttoknow
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VOTE FOR HERMAN CAIN.he will keep those mooslims out.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 19:13 | 1936468 Use of Weapons
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Although we admire your Avatar's breasts, and your personal dedication to keeping ZH a male dominated bastion.... Riddle me this: If you had, just mother-fucking-had-to, to get Obama back in for 2012, what would be the best way of doing so?


Hint: zero other democratic contenders (Hilary is aiming for prez 2020), and a field of Republicans that make the muppets look sane.


Job done. Obama 2012.



Oh. Wait. You think that the two parties are different? Okay.



p.s. Loving the random junker. We notice your efforts, even if no-one else cares. 3>.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 20:36 | 1936835 BoNeSxxx
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"Hint: zero other democratic contenders (Hilary is aiming for prez 2020), and a field of Republicans that make the muppets look sane."

Hint: zero other democratic contenders (Hilary is aiming for prez 2020), and a field of Republicans that make the muppets look sane and ignore Ron Paul as though we wasn't even in the room.

Fixed it.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 21:57 | 1936989 Use of Weapons
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Well, I might have garnered 2 junks for my comment, but those were from the stupids.

If you really think that R.P. will be allowed to be president, you're a fucking delusional nutcase.


Hint: Count the $$$. As I stated elsewhere, $$$ = election.When RP can either a) Raise about a billion dollars in campaign funds or b) mount a successful insurrection through the military that support him, then he'll get elected. Otherwise: just no. NO. You fucking retards, NO.



Now get off my porch, you silly AJones fan.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 22:45 | 1937114 BoNeSxxx
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You are delusional... you think you know who junked you and you think you know anything about me?

And you read things that aren't even there... Try reading the actual letters for once. When placed in a certain order, they convey real meaning.  Trust me, there isn't anything between the lines and, if you see something there, you should check to see if you skipped your medication.

I'M pretty sure you are clinically delusional. 

Hint: I never said anything about RP being elected.  I pointed out, factually, that he was being ignored and, in spite of your opinion about him, ought not be lumped in with the other nitwits who think Africa is a country and that the Taliban is in Libya.

p.s. when I decide to visit your porch, do I still just need to follow the banjo music?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 22:54 | 1937126 Use of Weapons
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You think that Ron Paul, a congressman for how many years, and with no real Corporate support has a chance at  the vaunted prize of the "President of the United States of America" if only the MSM would stop ignoring him? And you think that "being ignored" is the only barrier to his election?!?




Hey, area 51. I've heard that there's this global conspiracy about aliens....




And yes. The wider world is reading this wondering how many drugs you took in 'Nam.



p.s. You need to up your medicare on trolling prescriptions, because yours are weak, and only garner greens and reds from the catfish readers. Srsly.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:22 | 1935853 SilverRhino
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Most fiat currencies ... 40 years and detonation.  

The SDR won't last 40 months without a WW breaking out over it and it's misuse.


Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:30 | 1935897 fonestar
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Does anyone see the endgame playing out something like I do?  Where the BRICs nations are moving to gold and the western "democracies" are moving to SDRs?  This can't end well and this seems to be a Highlander type scenario evolving ("there can be only one!").

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:59 | 1935996 Sunset chaser
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My guess is it's certainly possible, as these kinds of things are generally accompanied by extreme shifts in wealth distribution.

No way does Germany advocate printing money without having already solved the debt crises, because it's widely accepted there that money printing caused the Weimar hyperinflation which led to Hitler's rise to power and WWII.

That's the rationale I'm trading on. Adding more deep puts today, as I fully expect a huge plunge imminently.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 17:09 | 1936292 fonestar
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Thu, 12/01/2011 - 18:14 | 1936499 viahj
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except that the western nations have a whole lot more gold than the BRICs do (if you can believe their official numbers).  SDRs are the western choice because you can't pring gold to inflate, however i do believe that the SDR basket will include the Yuan (once China has enough gold to have a sway with the gold big boys). 

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 18:57 | 1936642 Smiddywesson
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One currency to rule them all,

and in the darkness bind them.

Kinda scarry, huh?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:29 | 1935889 donsluck
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It's not just that they don't care about death and destruction. It is part of the Illuminati creed that in order to transend you must be responsible for the death of many, many people. The more that are killed, the higher the transendence.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 20:54 | 1936865 New World Chaos
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The more innocents they sacrifice, the more they charge up Lucifer and become one with him.  And their world government / world currency system is the Beast which we have been warned about. 

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:49 | 1935961 killallthefiat
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SDR is backed by full failth and credit of the USPS.  Go back to sleep.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 16:17 | 1936071 Chupacabra-322
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 “The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury.”

~ George Washington

"Paper is poverty, it is the only ghost of money, and not money itself".

-Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788

"The banks... have the regulation of the safety-values of our fortunes, and... condense and explode them at their will".

-Thomas Jeffferson to John Adams, 1819

"The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it"

-Dr. Josef Mengele (Infamous Nazi Doctor)


Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:08 | 1935774 Gubbmint Cheese
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"Make the lie big, keep it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it"

Adolf Hitler.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:23 | 1935847 tgatliff
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Never suggest a conspiracy when willful ignorance is possible.....

I think the author gives the "people in charge" too much credit.   These people are not smart.  I was watching Warren Buffett humping Becky Quick's leg the other day and was taken back with how slow this man's thinking process is.... People like him are not smart.  They just lived during a time of great monetary expansion. (aka burning fiat currencies)  

Also, the issue is not one of "who is in charge", but rather generational.  Baby Boomers sold the future for a big asset inflation run, and basically tried to "eat" their young... Good for them!   Their little retirement dreams will collapse in their '80s while their pissed children will ship them off to a concentration (aka nursing home) camps...


In short, we have seen this before in the 1930's... It is not skilled or intentional.   It is the side affect of short term mindsets driven by 4 year election cycles...

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:59 | 1935980 flattrader
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>>>Never suggest a conspiracy when willful ignorance is possible.....<<<

That has some credence.

Often a loose association/alliance of a perceived common interest is enough to create the appearance of a rock solid conspiracy.

Often that loose association/alliance crumbles in the end when the situation gets pushed to the extreme.

They might try an SDR...that doesn't mean earthlings will accept it.

It will take an alien invasion (literally) to make something like this palatable.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 16:44 | 1936178 Janestool
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Thu, 12/01/2011 - 16:48 | 1936189 Janestool
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Not very Smart, indeed, more like benefactors on an endless binge.....

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 18:10 | 1936480 Use of Weapons
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Gray men.

Some band somewhere knew the score when they suggested that the grey men jump from the towers of wealth. Pro tip: You'll never meet the smart cookies; most aren't even in it for the big money (SCANDALOUS).


Ideology and 'humanity' (Sein Und Zeit) has a far larger pull than you'd imagine. Cash is important.... up until other things like breeding, genes and inter-generational continuity come into play. Remember: "Be Excellent to one another".



Arete. When money is a score card, Arete in any particular field (as long as it isn't something like "bake beans") is your signature. The real problem arises when your Arete is non-compatible with the mode of Being of your civilisation.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 21:29 | 1936926 killallthefiat
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I'm not sure ZHers can handle that truth.  I junk you, so more can read.  Definitely a conspiracy, but certainly a bunch of willful ignorance

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 17:02 | 1936262 Kayman
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" We've taken Stalingrad... really... just a few pockets to clean up"

Yesterday's swaps are the best sign yet that the ponzi is coming apart at the seams.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:09 | 1935784 GeneMarchbanks
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We haven't seen desperate yet.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:12 | 1935797 mtomato2
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Have you never desperately needed a towel?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 22:58 | 1937137 Use of Weapons
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You got a +1 for a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference.


I will now recite poetry in the hope that your link isn't something else.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:48 | 1935950 SheepDog-One
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Right Gene, hell wheres even 'uncomfortable'? Theyre talking about the endgame here, 'problem reaction solution', I dont even see a problem yet hell all is well! All economic data is fine, Black Friday bonanza....where is the world panic?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 16:10 | 1936044 GeneMarchbanks
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'...where is the world panic?'

Truth is you won't see it happen. It'll rise up in waves of outrage and then recede. Entirely too many believe in cataclysmic 'trigger' event that changes everything. I'm not saying that isn't possible, only improbable. So far average Americans have given or rather, had taken from them, little in way of disturbing day-to-day life. But there is always a tipping point that may be 'invisible' to most.

The soft spot is oil price. Gas prices kill the consumer faster than anything. When we reach that point it'll get to the 'endgame'.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:09 | 1935785 redpill
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OT: I knew this was coming.  Bye bye NFLX, short away bitchez.

"Netflix May Increase Your Internet Fees

Internet service providers across the country mull charging data hogs more, according to new report."

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:10 | 1935790 TheSilverJournal
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Maybe TPTB's game plan is for the IMF to suck up all of the assets of the world through SDRs. They already have like a third of the gold that the US holds.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:11 | 1935793 Peter K
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Mike Krieger of KAM LP dissing the lame stream media? What a joke. This douchebag is the lame stream media:-)

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:11 | 1935795 1835jackson
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They will keep printing. Look if you were an inside ex squid employee serving the shadow banking masters are you going to get behind the podium and tell the masses were are facing a total financial collaspe? They will keep printing. 

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:12 | 1935798 Ancona
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Well fucking said! I drove past the local Wally World after Thanksgiving and witnessed the mad rush of walmartians for myself. It truly was a sight to behold.

Fucking pathetic sheep.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:57 | 1935988 Snidley Whipsnae
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"Walmartians"... Good one Ancona. Mind if I borrow it in future?

If you want to listen to more about the SDR; Jim Rickards has been talking/writing about them for a long time.

Click here and scroll through the KWN broadcast archive... Rickards very first interview was excellent, although all are worth listening to.


Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:38 | 1935805 hedgeless_horseman
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"Anyone who clings to the historically untrue — and thoroughly immoral — doctrine that "violence never solves anything" I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms."

-Lt. Col. Jean V. Dubois (Ret.)
Starship Troopers, Page 26

We could no longer just create dollars out of thin air and directly buy the world’s resources. We might need to exchange our national currency into the new reserve asset (SDRs) to then buy  use our superior military to kill people and take their things.

Mike, you are aware of the size of America's military budget?  SDR  for oil just isn't going to happen.  The oil producing nations (except Iran, Iraq, and Libya) already "elected" the petrol dollar, and recent history indicates they will stick with it.  Iran will either come around, or not.

I'm not saying it is right or wrong (watch the video below), I'm just saying it is.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:42 | 1935932 GeneMarchbanks
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I'm not sure you'll see Mike putting the military budget into his calculations. Out of his jurisdiction. Few can comment on geopolitics among finance gurus and I'm not sure Mike even qualifies there.

The big question is do the intelligence agencies/military study the impact finance has and how it imperils security in general?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 15:50 | 1935957 hedgeless_horseman
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The big question is do the intelligence agencies/military study the impact finance has and how it imperils security in general?

I don't know the answer.  The are probably too busy studying the impact peak oil has and how it imperils security in general.

US military warns oil output may dip causing massive shortages by 2015


"By 2012, surplus oil production capacity could entirely disappear, and as early as 2015, the shortfall in output could reach nearly 10 million barrels per day," says the report, which has a foreword by a senior commander, General James N Mattis.

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