September: Crunchtime For Europe And Germany

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"September will undoubtedly be the crunch time," one senior euro zone policymaker said. "In nearly 20 years of dealing with EU issues, I've never known a state of affairs like we are in now," one euro zone diplomat said this week. "It really is a very, very difficult fix and it's far from certain that we'll be able to find the right way out of it."

As Europe's fight with the twin demons of logic and math continues, time is running out. And as eurocrats take their mandatory vacations for a job well done and spend the next two weeks lounging on some Mediterranean island or listening to opera, Europe will enter hibernation mode, courtesy of a slow down in sovereign bond issuance, all of which however will change very quickly once September rolls in which as Reuters describes, "is shaping up as a "make-or-break" month as policymakers run desperately short of options to save the common currency." It is then that we will find if all that money spent on newsletter promoting active prayer to push the hands of central planners in that direction or the other, was well spent, or just thrown in the same cash black hole which is the final restring place for hundreds of billions in "bailout money" which has achieved nothing but perpetuating the same destructive behavior that it was meant to change.

Reuters explains why September will also be known as the popcorn month:

In that month a German court makes a ruling that could neuter the new euro zone rescue fund, the anti-bailout Dutch vote in elections just as Greece tries to renegotiate its financial lifeline, and decisions need to be made on whether taxpayers suffer huge losses on state loans to Athens.

 

On top of that, the euro zone has to figure out how to help its next wobbling dominoes, Spain and Italy - or what do if one or both were to topple.

 

Since the crisis erupted in January 2010, the euro zone has had to rescue relative minnows in Greece, Ireland and Portugal as they lost the ability to fund their budget deficits and debt obligations by borrowing commercially at affordable rates.

 

Now two much larger economies are in the firing line and policymakers must consider ever more radical solutions.

Following a year of real-time failed rumor, innuendo, speculation, prepackaged 'bankruptcy that is not a bankruptcy' negotiations, and much more, Europe has figured out what was patently obvious to everyone. This:

In Reuters' own words, the life raft is about to go pop:

The euro zone does not seem to have enough cash in the current setup to deal with a scenario of Spain and Italy needing a rescue, and a sense of doom is growing among some policymakers. Fighting the crisis, said the euro zone diplomat, is like trying to keep a life raft above water.

 

"For two years we've been pumping up the life raft, taking decisions that fill it with just enough air to keep it afloat even though it has a leak," the diplomat said. "But now the leak has got so big that we can't pump air into the raft quickly enough to keep it afloat."

Two bailouts in, and one bankruptcy, and Greece is fixed. Not

Compounding the problems, Greece is far behind with reforms to improve its finances and economy so it may need more time, more money and a debt reduction from euro zone governments.

 

If Greek debt cannot be made sustainable, the country may have to leave the euro zone, sending a shockwave across financial markets and the European economy.

 

Athens wants two more years than originally planned to cut its budget deficit to below 3 percent of GDP, so as not to impose yet more spending cuts on a country which is already in a depression.

 

This would mean Greece's 130 billion euro second bailout package may need to be increased by 20-50 billion euros, according to estimates by some euro zone officials and economists, and there is no appetite in the euro zone to give Greece yet more extra money.

 

More importantly Greece needs to bring its debt, which is equal to 160 percent of its annual economic output, under control. This means euro zone governments, which own roughly two thirds of it, may need to write part of it off.

 

Private creditors have already suffered a huge writedown in the value of their Greek debt holdings but so far euro zone taxpayers have not lost a cent on any of the bailouts.

So if Greece "agrees" to more austerity, how long until the rioting paralyzes the economy again, and a new government is elected, one in which Syriza has absolute majority, and the entire June fiasco with Greece potentially leaving the Eurozone out of its own volition is replayed? Not too long it seems. Especially since Schauble, who this weekend has perfected the art of throwing water in people's faces, just said there will be no more concessions.

But Greece is, once again, just the beginning.

Sept. 12 is a crucial date in the European diary. On that day the German Constitutional Court is scheduled to rule on whether a treaty establishing the euro zone's permanent bailout fund, the 500 billion euro European Stability Mechanism (ESM), is compatible with the German constitution.

 

A positive ruling is vital, because Germany is the biggest funder of the ESM, and the euro zone would be powerless to protect Spain or Italy without the ESM.

 

On the same day, parliamentary elections are held in the Netherlands where popular opposition to spending any more money on bailing out spendthrift euro zone governments is strong. The Dutch vote may complicate talks on a revised second bailout for Greece, which also has to be agreed in September.

Is a ECB impairment next in the cards? And if indeed Draghi takes a haircut on his Greek holdings, how long until he has to do the same with Portugal, Ireland, Spain and Italy? And how long until the EUR is currency only by decree, when even the blindest of the blind realize that the ECB's balance sheet has a massive capital shortfall, that can only be held together by more printing, something which Germany will hardly be delighted by:

Policymakers are working on "last chance" options to bring Greece's debts down and keep it in the euro zone, with the ECB and national central banks looking at also taking significant losses on the value of their bond holdings, officials said.

 

If governments swallowed the bitter pill by also accepting a cut in the value of their contributions to loans already made to Greece, this would break a taboo and could provoke demands for similar treatment from Ireland or Portugal.

 

Peter Vanden Houte, chief economist at ING bank, said euro governments might be forced to accept a halving of the value of their Greek debt - known in the business as haircut.

 

"If Greece is to be saved, we must see some debt forgiveness from euro zone governments in the coming years because otherwise Greece is never going to come out of the situation it is in now," he said. "We are talking about potentially a 50 percent haircut, which would still mean the Greek debt would be (proportionately) around the euro zone average."

 

The euro zone would want concessions from Athens. "Most probably in exchange, euro zone partners will be more strict on Greek compliance with structural reforms and may ask Greece to give up some sovereignty," said Vanden Houte.

In the grand scheme of things, we wonder what is more realistic: Greece handing over the keys to the kingdom to a Belgian, or the ECB getting senior bondholder concessions out of insolvent banks. Frankly, neither. At least not until iTraxx Crossover is over 1000 bps: aka - peak despair.

And then there is Spain and Italy, and the fact that the ESM is insufficient (not to mention still inactive), and the ECB will need to step in. Hope that it would do so, is what sent the market soaring last week. Yesterday, however, Germany made it all too clear that Draghi had made a deal without the devil, and that attempts to bluff Germany into a "certain" outcome just won't fly.

ECB President Mario Draghi signalled last Thursday the bank was ready to act, indicating it may revive its programme of buying bonds of troubled governments on the secondary market.

 

"Within our mandate, the ECB is ready to do whatever it takes to preserve the euro. And believe me, it will be enough," Draghi said. "To the extent that the size of the sovereign premia (borrowing costs) hamper the functioning of the monetary policy transmission channels, they come within our mandate."

 

However, Germany has always been hostile to the idea and the Bundesbank said on Friday that it continued to view it "in a critical fashion".

 

German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble dismissed suggestions Spain will ask the bailout fund to try to lower its borrowing costs by purchasing its bonds.

 

Spain faces high borrowing costs because investors fear they will not get their money back. The Spanish economy is shrinking, many of its autonomous regions need bailouts from Madrid and banks need the recapitalisation of up to 100 billion euros.

Which, in turn, leaves out those who just bought Spanish bonds, because hope and prayer are a strategy (and remember: Lehman will never fail), out in the cold:

Madrid still has to raise about 50 billion euros on the market by the end of the year. This may be impossible if its funding costs stay well above 7 percent for 10-year bonds.

 

Draghi's remarks knocked yields down by more than 40 basis points to below 7 percent on Thursday, but they could quickly climb back if the market does not see firm ECB buying soon.

All this, and much more, is finally coming to a head, as the time for can kicking with hollow promises and words without action is coming to an end: just more than one month from now is when Europe will have to put up or shut up. And we will truly find out how much of a misnomer the "European Union" truly is.

Finally, for those who enjoy a granular walk through for what is in store for Europe, here it is courtesy of Deutsche Bank.

July

  • 30 July: Italy auction. Bonds.

August:

  • 1 August: Monti meets Finnish PM. Italian PM Monti is due to meet his Finnish counterpart in Helsinki.
  • 2 August: Spain auction. Bonds
  • 2 August: ECB Governing Council meeting. Our expectation is that 2 August is likely to be an occasion for non-standard (“quantity”) monetary policies. Standard (“price”) monetary policy, or the level of policy rates, we suspect will take a backseat this month. A monetary policy “price” response would in any case be more effective after a “quantity” response given the current impairments of the monetary transmission mechanism. We expect a further 25bp refi rate cut at the September meeting. We suspect the deposit rate will remain at zero for now. See “Eurostress” in this issue of Focus Europe.
  • 7 August: Italian Q2 GDP flash estimate. A weak figure would reignite the ‘austerity versus growth’ debate (DB forecast –1.0% qoq).
  • 13 August: Italy auction. Bills
  • 14 August: Italy auction. Bonds
  • 14 August: Euro area Q2 GDP flash estimate, from Eurostat.
  • Mid-August: French Constitutional Court/Fiscal Compact. In Mid-August the French Constitutional Court is due to rule whether  the Fiscal Compact, which euro area countries are due to endorse by the start of 2013, needs to be ratified into the French Constitution. If so, a joint vote by the French Assembly would be required. Signals are that this would happen in September if required. See accompanying article on France in this issue of Focus Europe.
  • 16 August: Spain auction. Bonds
  • 20 August: Greek bond redemption. Greece is due to repay EUR3.1bn of GGBs. Following the PSI, these would be GGBs owned  by the ECB and EIB. While agreement on how to reconfigure the second loan programme is unlikely before September, it is unlikely the EU will hold-out from paying funds to Greece to repay the ECB/EIB. In a consolidated sense, the official sector’s exposure to Greece remains the same, but the creditor changes (to the EFSF). Alternatively, Greece could issue T-bills and the  Greek banks could absorb them with the assistance of ELA from the Greek central bank.
  • 21 August: Spain auction. Bills
  • 28 August: Spain auction. Bills
  • 28 August: Italy auction. Bonds
  • 29 August: Italy auction. Bills
  • 30 August: Italy auction. Bonds
  • End-August: DBRS rating on Spain/Ireland. By the end of August, the DBRS ratings agency is due to have concluded its review  of Spanish and Irish sovereign ratings.

September:

  • September: Moody’s due to conclude review of Spanish sovereign rating. Logically Moody's should wait until there is clarity on  direct recap before making a decision on Spain’s rating. Since governments have not made progress fleshing out a direct recapitalisation facility — indeed, have created some ambiguity as to whether it will be non-recourse — there is a distinct risk that Moody's, in another move to be “ahead of the curve”, decides to downgrade Spain within the next 3 months. Moody’s currently rates Spain Baa3, the lowest investment grade rating.
  • September: Detailed bottom-up Spanish bank stress tests due for publication.
  • 6 September: Spain auction. Bonds
  • 6 September: ECB Governing Council meeting. If we are right about the outcome of the 2 August ECB meeting (dominated by “quantity” measures), we suspect that revisions to staff forecasts for growth and inflation are likely to be a basis for a 25bp rate  cut.
  • 11 September: Greece auction. Bills
  • 12 September: German Constitutional Court ESM ruling. The German Constitutional Court is to rule on the complaints lodged  against the ESM and fiscal compact. The chances of the ESM being vetoed are low. However, the Court might again strengthen the German Parliament’s prerogatives as regards future European integration (see Focus Germany, 20 July). Germany is the last approval needed for the ESM to come into effect. Then the first instalment of the capital has to be paid by the ESM members  within 15 days of the ESM treaty entering into force. There are three other countries where Constitutional Court queries are outstanding — France, Austria and Ireland. France’s Constitutional Court will be deciding by mid-August. Neither Austria (which  may take another 3-6 months) nor Ireland are large enough to hold back the ESM — the ESM will come into force when countries representing 90% of the subscribed capital have approved it. Both Germany and France have an effective veto power in that case.
  • 12 September: Dutch Election. In April, the VVD/CDA minority government failed when Geert Wilders' PVV party withdrew its  support amid negotiations for the 2013 austerity budget. A crisis was averted when three smaller parties came forward to give support to a budget, but an early election was unavoidable. Domestic austerity and European crisis issues will likely play  important roles in the election. Compared to the configuration of parliament at the October 2010 election, the latest opinion polls (Maurice de Hond) show PM Rutte's VVD liberal party vying with the Socialist Party for the dominant party position. Both would  gain 31 seats in the 150 seat parliament on the latest polls. This is an unchanged position for VVD, but a doubling of SP seats. SP are gaining at the expense of all other parties except VVD and neo-liberal D66. This may reflect a backlash against the  austerity for 2013 which has broad party political support. SP have also taken a stance against euro rescue initiatives, voting against the ESM alongside the PVV and extracting a pledge from Dutch FinMin De Jager that parliament will vote on any future  direct bank recapitalisation disbursements. Given the typical distribution of the vote among several parties, the questions are  what coalition emerges from this election, how long it takes to form a government and what policies will it support? Markets in particular will be watching the ramifications for domestic fiscal policy (the 2013 Budget is a week after the election) and euro  rescue initiatives.
  • 12 September: Italy auction. Bills
  • 13-14 September: G20 Finance Ministers and Central Bankers meeting. In Mexico.
  • 13 September: Italy auction. Bonds
  • 14 September: ECOFIN meeting. This is very likely the finance ministers meeting when adjustments to Greece's second loan programme will be considered. The remaining EUR23bn recapitalisation of the Greek banks is due to complete by the end of September, assuming a positive review of the loan programme. This is also when finance ministers should have their first discussion on the proposals for a common bank supervisory regime under the ECB. Any delays, with knock-on delays for a direct bank recapitalisation mechanism, will disappoint the market. Options for a reconsideration of Ireland’s legacy bank bailout policies may also be discussed (decision not due until October ECOFIN meeting).
  • 15 September: Eurogroup meeting. Coinciding
  • 18 September: Greece auction. Bills
  • 18 September: Spain auction. Bills
  • 20 September: Spain auction. Bonds
  • 25 September: Spain auction. Bills
  • 25 September: Italy auction. Bonds
  • 26 September: Italy auction. Bills
  • 27 September: Italy auction. Bonds
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Sun, 07/29/2012 - 10:52 | 2660187 williambanzai7
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CLOUD NEIN!

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 11:07 | 2660212 engineertheeconomy
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Give in to your inner temptation to steal from others and live decadently

no, scratch that...

Give in to your temptation to shoot the cocksuckers that are stealing from others and living decadently!

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 12:20 | 2660352 Manthong
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When you can create money from nothing and impose taxes to your hearts content, every season is springtime.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 13:57 | 2660483 GeezerGeek
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Refresh my memory, please. Are we talking about Europe or Washington, DC?

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 14:04 | 2660491 Manthong
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“it's far from certain that we'll be able to find the right way out of it.”

..which means close to certain that they will find the wrong way out of it.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 15:00 | 2660568 Ancona
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......99 macht luft balloon

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 17:11 | 2660831 MillionDollarBoner_
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Anyone got a picture of that German chick - Nena, wasn't it? She wuz Hot!

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 21:02 | 2661176 caconhma
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Regardless of what ZH or anybody else said, the EU future is very simple: the entire EU as well as the Euro-zone will be ruined together with Germany. Presently the German political leadership is totally controlled by the World Zionist Banking Mafia (WZBM) who does not give a shit about Germany or its people. The same is true also for the old USA.

Just remember that the German Supreme Court is not any different from its American counterpart. The political expediency presently rules the Western World.

Today, the only somewhat independent from WZBM country is China but they have too many internal problems: the present Chinese political & economic structure needs an urgent transformation to move forward. The present one comes from the post-Mao times. It is still a communist model with its enormous corruption, fraud, and inflexibility.  The Chinese international economic model just cannot continue in its present form since the West cannot and does not want to pay for Chinese good & services at all. Plus, from now on going forward, Chinese will have to defend their national interests using its military might and friendly allies. The post-WW2 “peaceful” world is over.

 

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 22:02 | 2661325 Lord Blankcheck
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Peacefull world?

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 05:27 | 2661685 Dugald
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A few weeks back it was August to be the make or break month.....did you thimk we would not notice a year was not given.

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 06:54 | 2661732 Bogdog
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"Presently the German political leadership is totally controlled by the World Zionist Banking Mafia (WZBM)"

 

oh boo hoo, payback is a motherfucker.

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 04:39 | 2661674 Rogue Trooper
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Here you are MDB the whole vid........ she was hot in an 80's kinda way ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lur-SGl3uw8

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 20:41 | 2661155 FreedomGuy
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Well said, lol! Actually, they all know the "right way". It is to properly let countries default, settle accounts and suffer the consequences of their actions. However, that is the responsible, adult, non-collectivist way out. So they will not do it.

The entire premise of statism-collectivism is that the state with its central planning geniuses can remove all evil and negative consequences from life, especially when we are talking economic management. All this is an attempt to hide the lie that they are fools and actually create these disasters.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 14:16 | 2660504 TheGardener
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What is wrong with living decadently in times like those?
Enjoy the party while it lasts. Open up a bottle of
bubbly each time real money makes up another hundred old
fiat dollars per ounce . Decadence is another issue, it is the entitlement infected so called middle classes with rotten apple gadgets and attitudes that make them unemployable outside this socialist system that have the most to loose or aged personae claiming a right to overseas
vacation that should be reduced to their proper role .
Which is just supporting their next akin, if any...

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 11:59 | 2660314 Arius
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looking back in retroperspective ... it was so easy, if we just did not let the first domino to fall ... Greece that is ... everything would have been different ... now the markets have taken a life on their own and none trust anything anymore ... what is to come ... it was so easy to just stop it at the very beginning ....

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 15:29 | 2660617 MsCreant
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Tell us how you would have stopped it? Hmmm?

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 21:51 | 2661312 Matt
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I would have stopped it by not knowingly allowing bankrupt countries to join the Eurozone.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 11:59 | 2660315 The Monkey
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But, but, but... FOMC!

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 13:27 | 2660440 disabledvet
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maybe the live version will get me an up arrow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knzIpxNWkYs

ain't the temptations that's fer sure. the keyboardist is Ivan Neville who is apparently related to the Neville Bros of Neville Bros fame.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Neville
what was the article about again?

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 01:26 | 2661609 palmereldritch
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The ESM says 999 but the BIS says 666.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 10:56 | 2660199 cherry picker
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At this stage of the game, who cares whether the one currency or one government fails?  Do you think those in Greece or Spain or Portugal or France or England who spent thousands getting an education and discover there is nothing for them to do in the way of making an income and too financially stressed to be able to start a business of their own cares?  How about those raising a family and have little if nothing to feed the young with?

Isn't the Euro and it's government the kind of stuff that pushed Europeans to the West, where opportunities used to prevail and a man could be considered free of this nonsense.  Note I used the words "used to be".

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 12:02 | 2660325 knukles
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Mais Non!

Not now.  This is still July.  We're packing for vacation.  September will take care of itself in September. 

Phhhhht!

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 14:01 | 2660489 AssFire
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Celente:

The entire financial system is under collapse. It’s not about the Greeks; it’s not about the Spanish; it’s not about the Italians; it’s not about the English; it’s not about the Americans; it’s not about the Chinese; it’s about everybody.
http://www.economicnoise.com (http://s.tt/1j8NL)
Sun, 07/29/2012 - 17:15 | 2660836 MillionDollarBoner_
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Almost perfect French...only you forgot to shrug when you said "Phhhhht!"

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 12:08 | 2660337 Broomer
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Just a bit more to the West and the Europeans will drown in the Atlantic, like lemmings.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 13:19 | 2660437 pendragon
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you prove you have zero clue by lumping england (sic) with greece, spain and portugal.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 13:35 | 2660454 cherry picker
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No Clue, really?

If so then blame the media as it tells me that within a few miles of the Olympics the English are living in squalor.  The media tells me the English are in a recession.  It tells me that the Polish are taking all the manufacturing jobs in England.  That is what the news media tells me.

If they are wrong, please enlighten me as I have no other source of information.

If they are wrong, who is right?  You?

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 14:03 | 2660490 pendragon
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first it's the uk you muppet. second look at the bond yields and then work out who to lump with who. third don't believe the media..see for yourself. fourth there are no manufacturing jobs in the uk. fifth i'm right

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 17:16 | 2660839 MillionDollarBoner_
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Sixth - its just a matter of time ;o)

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 10:58 | 2660202 I am Jobe
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Vaseline Bitchezz.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 13:03 | 2660420 fockewulf190
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Looks like Phyzz is going to be the Preperation H of the economic world that ends up bringing any semblance of relief. Stock up.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 11:00 | 2660206 JeremyWS
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I've got a good birthday to look forward to in September. Should be fun!!!!

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 11:10 | 2660219 StrawberryBlonde
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So, I guess Italy will have to sell some of its gold (or hand it over to Germany)...as the world's 3rd largest  holder of gold, that shouldn't put too much of a dent in its vault...and no doubt Spain will have to fork over some hard assets...depends how badly they want to stay in the Euro.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 11:12 | 2660226 TrainWreck1
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The gold that is so safe in the basement of the NY Fed that it rarely needs audited

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 12:10 | 2660323 The Big Ching-aso
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It appears Europe is simultaneously hosting a Financial Special Olympics.   Let's see who takes the most gold.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 12:05 | 2660331 Broomer
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Hey. It's your gold, I mean, I'm just holding it for you, like a bank.
Except, huh, you know,  better than a bank because, you know, banks always get knocked off.
You know, no one knocks off old Fed.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 12:28 | 2660365 knukles
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Hey, come on! 
Trust me.
It's in it's own very lonesome allocated segregated unaudited account held in custody just for you :)
Don't listen to those rumors about it being sent to the City for rehypothication, used as collateral for gold swaps or set aside for any other purpose.
Why, it's safe with us.
Wouldn't you rather a wire transfer good from the NYFRB?
By the way, f you go to our website, we've got a nice little downloadable brochure you can have.

http://www.newyorkfed.org/education/addpub/goldvault.pdf

And try out our research for dummies, too

https://www.newyorkfed.org/publications/result.cfm?comics=1

We gotcha covered!

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 14:29 | 2660482 tongue.stan
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/tungsten-filled-1-kilo-gold-bar-found-uk .(... and china)

Older article: http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/gold_bar_scam_215.html

The crunchtime I look forward to is when all the rehypothecated tier one assets of tungsten filled bars are finally accounted for.

Oh wait, thats not gonna happen.

 

Wheres that idiot with the katy perry videos when you need her?

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 14:54 | 2660557 MisterMousePotato
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Paraphrase of a line at the end of The Professional, right?

Great movie, btw, for anyone who hasn't seen it.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 12:28 | 2660363 jimmyjames
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So, I guess Italy will have to sell some of its gold

***********

They wont be able to sell it because the EU will have claims on it and that goes for all PIIGS gold-

I'm surprised by how little press this got even on the blogsphere

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http://bit.ly/KqrbNZ

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 14:25 | 2660517 Ghordius
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Careful, it's only a plan. And a bad one, anyway.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 15:23 | 2660607 Western
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A bad plan for whom, the debtor nations or the creditors?

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 02:58 | 2661644 Ghordius
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+1 good point. I was thinking about the debtor nations. But you could make the case that it's a bad plan for both depending from the timeframe and price. Here on ZH we all like to discuss what is going to happen soon. Chances are that this is all the beginning of a long, long fight. Currency wars are often longer than a decade.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 17:19 | 2660850 MillionDollarBoner_
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Have you never seen "The Italian Job"?

Michael Caine nicked it all in a mini :O)

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 11:12 | 2660223 Beam Me Up Scotty
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"And if indeed Draghi takes a haircut on his Greek holdings, how long until he has to do the same with Portugal, Ireland, Spain and Italy? And how long until the EUR is currency only by decree, when even the blindest of the blind realize that the ECB's balance sheet has a massive capital shortfall, that can only be held together by more printing, something which Germany will hardly be delighted by:"

How long until Bernanke takes a haircut on his Euro holdings?  How many Euros does the Fed hold thru currency swap?  The broke US taxpayer on the hook again???

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 12:39 | 2660377 ElvisDog
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The Fed and ECB will never, ever take a haircut until all other (i.e. taxpayer) options are exhausted. The central bankers are getting a free pass now because the taxpayers haven't really felt the sting of all the obligations (student loans, FHA mortgages, etc.) that have been allocated to them. This is because the U.S. can still run and fund $1T deficits every year. The flaw in the plan of dumping everything on the taxpayer, of course, is that the middle class taxpayers are already being bled dry. Those taxpayer guarentees don't mean anything if the taxpayers don't have any money to pay them.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 13:10 | 2660430 Totentänzerlied
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Living taxpayers. You forgot to mention the real mark in this heist: the young and the unborn. Remember, claims on future productivity. Kick that can, yes we can.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 11:13 | 2660228 Haole
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The Human Centipede, European Parliament stylie.

 

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 11:14 | 2660230 Eireann go Brach
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Obama and his mini me sidekick Geitner will go over there and give a speech, and the Teleprompter will save the day!

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