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The Silent Anschluss: Germany Formally Requests That Greece Hand Over Its Fiscal Independence
Update 2: the first local headlines are coming in now, from Spiegel: Griechenland soll Kontrolle über Haushalt abgeben (loosely Greece must give up domestic control), and Kathimerini: Germany proposes Greece relinquish some fiscal powers, sources say
Update: Formal Greek annexation order attached.
It was tried previously (several times) under "slightly different" circumstances, and failed. Yet when it comes to taking over a country without spilling even one drop of blood, and converting its citizens into debt slaves, Germany's Merkel may have just succeeded where so many of her predecessors failed. According to a Reuters exclusive, "Germany is pushing for Greece to relinquish control over its budget policy to European institutions as part of discussions over a second rescue package, a European source told Reuters on Friday." Reuters add: "There are internal discussions within the Euro group and proposals, one of which comes from Germany, on how to constructively treat country aid programs that are continuously off track, whether this can simply be ignored or whether we say that's enough," the source said.' So while the great distraction that is the Charles Dallara "negotiation" with Hedge Funds continues (as its outcome is irrelevant: a Greece default is assured at this point), the real development once again was behind the scenes where Germany was cleanly and clinically taking over Greece. Because while today it is the fiscal apparatus, tomorrow it is the legislative. As for the executive: who cares. At that point Goldman will merely appoint one of its retired partners as Greek president and Greece will become the first 21st century German, pardon, European colony. But at least it will have its precious euro. We can't wait until Greek citizens find out about this quiet coup.
More from Reuters:
The source added that under the proposals European institutions already operating in Greece should be given "certain decision-making powers" over fiscal policy.
"This could be carried out even more stringently through external expertise," the source said.
The German demands for greater control over Greek budget policy comes amid intense talks to finalize a second 130-billion euro rescue package for Greece, which has repeatedly failed to meet the fiscal targets set out for it by its international lenders.
It is likely to spark a strong reaction in Athens ahead of elections expected to take place in April.
"Strong reaction?" Is that the politically correct parlance for "civil war" these days? We must be out of the loop on that one...
The specific language that strips Greece of its sovereignty and which will be plastered over every front page in the Greek media tomorrow:
Budget consolidation has to be put under a strict steering and control system. Given the disappointing compliance so far, Greece has to accept shifting budgetary sovereignty to the European level for a certain period of time. A budget commissioner has to be appointed by the Eurogroup with the task of ensuring budgetary control. He must have the power a) to implement a centralized reporting and surveillance system covering all major blocks of expenditure in the Greek budget, b) to veto decisions not in line with the budgetary targets set by the Troika and c) will be tasked to ensure compliance with the above mentioned rule to prioritize debt service.
The new surveillance and institutional approach should be formulated in the MoU as follows: “In the case of non-compliance, confirmed by the ECB, IMF and EU COM, a new budget commissioner appointed by the Eurogroup would help implementing reforms. The commissioner will have broad surveillance competences over public expenditure and a veto right against budget decisions not in line with the set budgetary targets and the rule giving priority to debt service.” Greece has to ensure that the new surveillance mechanism is fully enshrined in national law, preferably through constitutional amendment.
And here is the full formal pre-annexation order:
In the meantime, Greeks are already practicing the switchover in the national dance:
Before...
And after.
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wow you're extremely stupid if you think the germans are solely responsible and even more stupid if you base it all one one book
Nobody ever said anything about basing historical understanding on "one book", but it is a book that even a dolt could understand. The Germans had done it before (Franco-Prussian War 1870). Let's put it this way: If the Germans had not wanted war in 1914, war would not have happened, period! You, on the other hand, probably have some "deep" inside information about the Illumminati moving the European chess pieces from some rathskeller in Baden Baden which supersedes all other "sheepformation". Time to grow up.
Hi Trav.
Have I mentioned lately that you're worthless here?
and this is relevant because.......?
This is the one thing that "should" happen that would ruin my investment thesis regarding what "will" happen. And I hope it does.
irrelevant, Ben Shalom, Goldminites , Rothschild and so on....
we own the world but will let others to do the work and pretend.
You don't own squat. Certain jews do. You don't.
It's like saying ``Christians killed the jews during WW2 because Hitler killed them and he was a Christian``. Total bunk.
Rothschild will exterminate millions of jews if it means more power to his family of inbreds.
you are right on that point, if i was part of that group i would not be hangin in here.
But i will defend jews if i see a profit.
especially if you see a prophet worth 30 pieces of silver? (I jape)
Study reveals 80% of Jews aren't Semitic but Abkhazi
Merkel is bluffing: The Greeks will say "Opa yours blondie!" and the Germans will still have to bail them out.
It's an end-game. Everyone is trying to own the center of the board. Good luck with that one -- the game is already over.
For me it feels more like "Guess which box".
One box contains money, one box contains red nuclear button and one box contains slave collar.
Ah, well, they can try to get money from the Greek but there is a 100% certainty they will fail.
What would you do?
Give them one big slimy middle finger.
But they can try......
Sovereignty breach.
Whatsoever,while this fact being unacceptable, it also shows that contrary to the usual propaganda spred on here, the Germans, like the rest of the European US citizens, seek the same end: blobbing up.
The only hurt is rivalry, who is going to be in charge.
But all the european US citizens follow the same path to Paneuropa.
No breaking up, only merging up.
ROFL
USA! USA! USA!
lmao!
Exactly how low can Greek politicians get before the people rise up and lynch them? The passivity of the Greek population never ceases to amaze me. I am beginning to think they deserve to get fucked over.
US politicians do it to US citizens everyday. I guess we deserve it too
At least passive until they cut off cable, then it's game on.
As long as the food stamps are printed the 85 IQ crowd will be happy.
Greeks have not been passive.
They have participated alongthe way of US citizenism.
Following US citizenism, they have to blob up. The other options being the ones one gets when being on the wrong side of US citizenism...
USA! USA! USA!
But if they rotate yellow, then slide is the brown, and only sharp will be lofty.
NOW you're getting the hang of it! :>D
"Let the sargeant mirror spin,
if we lose, the barbers win!
Happy family, one-hand clap,
four went on, but none came back."
Kadir beneath Mo Moteh.Shaka, when the walls fell.Temba, his arms wide.Mirab, his sails unfurled.Sokath - his eyes uncovered. Kailash, when it rises.The river Temarc - in winter.Rai and Jiri at Lungha. Kiazi's children - their faces wet. Zinda - his face black, his eyes red. Chenza at court - the court of silence.Uzani - his army with fist open. His army with fist closed.
And that my friend Akak, is the solution to the fucking debt problem...
Akak, his eyes crying with laughter!
Uhhh.... thank you, Miss South Carolina.
funny
That's what I was thinking. If the Greek People allow Germany to take control of their country financially they deserve to get screwed.
They might or might not get screwed.
Either they play ball with the rest of the US citizens in Europe or they fall against those US citizens.
As Greeks have been active in the spread of US citizenism accross the world, they perfectly know what it looks like and what it feels like to be on the wrong side of US citizenism.
On that ground, Greeks might as well consider that they would get screwed when they do not play with the paneuropeans.
WTF? US citizens in Europe? What a bunch of American tourists? The political opinion of a US citizen in Europe counts about as much as any foreigner's in the US, as in none at all. And what do you mean by 'citizenism' is this even a real word, or is it one of those global village, let's all hold hands together and be metrosexual, multicultural and other bullshit?
I have to agree with Agent, what the hell is he talking about? Also what is "Blobbing up"?
Not to worry, AgentDefault --- this AnonymousAsshole is just a blindly bigoted, hate-filled, virulently and mindlessly anti-American troll who loves to swarm threads with his nonsensical ramblings about "US Citizenism", which is both meaningless and apparently intended as a sweepingly broad condemnation of each and every American for the crimes of their oligarchic political and financial elite. One cannot rationally respond to such psychotic drivel.
I wonder what a Markov tree 'conversation AI' would sound like, if the programmers were Chinese?
can we respond irrationally?
AnonymousAsshole is sure taking his best shot at it.
WTF? US citizens in Europe? What a bunch of American tourists?
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US citizens ('Americans') are the proponents of US citizenism ('Americanism'), a state of mind, a doctrine, a set of beliefs.
Once again, using the original words, Americanism and Americans would not help it at all.
US citizens are denialists.
They could as well write "WTF? Americans in Europe?"
Which US Citizens are you referring to?
ALL of them?
If you answer "yes", isn't that kind of (irrational) thinking called "stereotyping", a.k.a. "bigotry"?
Why should any intelligent and rational person listen to the ravings of a bigot?
Fuck gold, I'm going long whatever this guy is on. What is it anyway?
USA! USA! USA!
WTF?
I get your irony, but do you need to splatter this all over this site?
Wouldn't once per post be enough?
You are witness to the most ironic trolling in all of humanity. Bow.
USA! USA! USA!
You keep this up and you are going to have to change your avatar to a giant foam finger.
I have a better theory: The entire Universe was sneezed out of the nose of a being called the "Great, Green Ocklseizure!"
Beware the coming of the great white handkerchief...
If that happens i hope those politicians have blackwater's number on speed dial cuz their gonna need thier services. "To serve and protect".......but whom?
Greek island would be nice...but I am a german debt peon myself, so no chance ;)
well we could pool monies and bid for them. oh wait, the hedge funds already have.
Based on the timing of the Facebook IPO and the over extending S&P nearing resistance, I'd say that we are at a market top. It's all coming together nicely.
from your lips to gods ears.....I am getting smoked waiting for it
In German Europa, Greek finance annexes you.
NWO
http://northwilts.org.uk/
Probably not, but a pretty good deep cover.
Check this out, oh hater of Ayn Rand: http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1023-financial-tyranny
Then figure out whose side Ayn Rand was on...
Never wrestle Oprah?
Certainly not on a bet.
Given enough olive oil, I'd do it for free (and probably enjoy every minute of it!) :>D
"Bend over" in Greek now has a totally alternate meaning.
Sangria and wurst please.
This will be the new menu:
Eh...Sangria is a Spanish or Portugese wine punch.
Europe in trouble, when worse comes to wurst.
Well this will make for a colourful next week.
I'm thinking long hanging ropes.
Time to go long Riot Gear manufacturers.
How about a Supercommittee? They can fix anything.
As Germany plans to invade Greece with Gestapo forces to beat the money out of citizens, rich Greeks start destroying all evidence of tax fraud. http://is.gd/InBl8J
Or, someone's collecting on their insurance (to pay taxes? Surely you jest!)
deutsche fantastisch
Now is the time on Sprockets when we dance.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHZR9SA5pOg
Rofl..really?
Rofl..really?
Euro, bitches! xD
"In case ZH readers haven't noticed, the mainstream opinion is that the euro is toast. So you're contrarians on pretty much everything else, but in matters of he euro you're unquestioning in your support of the MSM view, the view so clearly fed to the masses by Uncle Sam."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-gold-bonds-averting-financial-a...
I doubt most people here or anywhere are purely contrarian about everything. It's foolish to be contrarian just to take the opposite view of the mainstream. Gravity, the sun rising in the east, these are all common views, but most people don't bet against them just to be contrarian.
You have to be selective in your contrarianism, and even when the contrarian view is perfectly rational, timing matters.
That, and you obviously are not paying attention as the views here are quite diverse. You probably can find a few people who believe the Euro will last much longer.
Agreed. Being contrarian just for the sake of it is stupid. However I do not see a lot of independent thinking here as regards the euro; rather I see people gobbling up everything the MSM is feeding it.
I understand that those here have an aversion to paper currencies, and cannot easily overcome that obstacle.
I simply posted out of amusement, poking fun at that. :P
The value of Au is rising and tells me all I need to know about currencies.
The contrarian view is more often right than wrong; how funny is that!
because the original view is bought. Follow ze money.
Contrarians are stupid. Better to think for yourself.
You just made my brain stop for a few seconds.
( Thankfully, I can still comment... )
When you stop to think, remember to start again! :>D
"Reuters says" is not the same as "Germany says." And "Germany says" is not the same as "Deutsche (Goldman) Bank" says, or the "EU says." I mean, who is Reuters? A non-story! But I’ll tell you who does call for fiscal integration of the entire euro area. Here, straight from the horse’s mouth, is EC President Herman Van Rompuy's invitation letter to the upcoming EU summit, after reports that the ESM won't be on the agenda at the upcoming EU summit, which it is.
EUROPEAN COUNCILTHE PRESIDENT
Brussels, 26 January 2012
Invitation letter by President Van Rompuy to the Informal European Council
It is my pleasure to invite you to an informal meeting of the members of the European Council on 30 January 2012 in Brussels.
We will first have an exchange of views with the new President of the European Parliament to go over the main points we will later on discuss in the meeting of the members of the EC.
In the present economic situation, we must continue our efforts to ensure financial stability and fiscal consolidation: this is necessary in itself, but it is also a condition needed for returning to structural economic growth. At the same time, we need to take active measures to enhance growth and competitiveness and above all create jobs. Whilst our March meeting will provide wider guidance to Member States' economic and employment policies, I want us this time to focus on immediate action to be taken in the specific areas of youth unemployment, the Single Market and SMEs. To that end I have circulated a draft statement which should help structure our discussion and communicate its outcome.
My idea is to hold an interactive debate allowing us to share experiences of the different paths to promote jobs and growth. Thus, after general introductions by José Manuel Barroso on how the EU can support Member States' action, in particular as regards youth unemployment and support to SMEs, and by Helle Thorning-Schmidt, on the measures the Council needs to agree on rapidly, I will ask a number of lead speakers to introduce the three strands of our discussion (youth employment; the Single Market; and the financing of SMEs).
We will also use this opportunity to endorse the ESM treaty and to register agreement on the new treaty on stability and convergence within the euro area. With the two treaties we will further strengthen the instruments at our disposal to ensure the consolidation and development of the euro area as a whole.
"We will first have an exchange of views with the new President of the European Parliament..."
Democratically elected, of course ;-)
Soon to be President of the World.
Voting by inner-circle members only.
Do inner-circle members hold hands when they vote?
Not sure if they have/use.
even europeans don't have a clue how the various organs of governemnt work:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Council
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_European_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_Assembly_of_the_Council_of_Eu...
I am from Balkans. Nooooooooooooow, we're talking. Now it's real.
I was in Athens during peace time in 1997. May Day was a day of wrecking by protesters. Again, those were nice peace times. Old people still talk about Germans as invaders.
Oooooh God. If this is true, we'll see fire, literally.
"Strong reaction?" Is that the politically correct parlance for "civil war" these days? We must be out of the loop on that one...
Not sure I see anything happening, if recent history is an example. This stuff has been going on for years and I'm guessing if someone, anyone, will cut them a check so long as they can fog a mirror, why would they care?
I don't see this German takeover as a problem, rather a solution. Now, if the Germans stop cutting those checks, well then I think the Greeks will go ahead and burn down their own houses. That'll show those Germans!
Of course the ECB can fund the Germans as they fund the Greeks so it never has to end. See, I've read MMT!!!
Wow... just, wow! Nigel Farage was right about the undemocratic nature of the EU after all...
Nigel Farage has been right about many things for a long time now. The fact that the MSM avoids him like the plague should be more than sufficient evidence to that affect.
Farage is the British Paul, for all purposes.
So in otherwords between this news and Facebook saving Planet Earth with it's IPO next week.........Surely DOW 13k is in the cards. I wouldn't be one bit surprised. Everytime this market fucks around with hanging in thin air it's really just waiting for some sort of good news to push it higher as there are no sellers.
So FB popularity peaks next week.
Tyler,
That is completely over the top. You cannot take over a country without an army.
The current lot of Greeks deserve absolutely no sympathy. They are truly a nation of crooks. You think I am exaggerating? If you listen to J Kyle Bass on Greece, he spells out how the Greeks have been doing it - they've been making promise after promise and borrowing money on that basis. The IMF laid down a condition that Greece replace 5 retired public sector workers with only one new hire (as a ratio) - in exchange for financial support. They borrowed money and broke that agreement in broad daylight. The IMF realised that 18,000 public sector workers retired and the Greeks replaced them with 24,000. There is nothing glorious about a nation of parasites that survives on borrowed money and shamelessly defaults. Greece has actually defaulted 108 times in the last 200 years on its sovereign debt.
The Germans are one the ones who are stupid idiots. They need to grow out of their post-war guilt. Enough of that nonsense already. How many Germans alive today collaborated with Nazis to conquer Europe? The Germans need to move on and look at the world through a different lens. The only reason this monstrosity called the EU is surviving is because of all the money the Germans have been chucking at it.
If there is any good to come out of this, it will be the utter total destruction of the EU and the rebirth of national sovereignty in Europe. The Germans are fools if they think they can control fiscal outcomes in Greece through the back door. A country that has broken every single promise up to now will keep breaking promises. The German politicians are a bunch of spineless pussies who cannot face the truth because the consequences are too dire. Its the same story in every democracy.
About time Greece defaulted and got it over with. Let them go back to the Drachma and become once again a sleepy backwater that does not threaten the entire global financial system. You know something is rotten in Denmark when Greece threatens the financial stability of the planet. I know, I know - there is Japan and the Uk and the US and France and blah blah blah. But Greece is really a symptom of all that has gone wrong with modern finance. We need to pay for our sins. The sin was lending to Greece. We have to atone for this.
Money is a promise in itself.
Germany just like many other countries is not in good shape.
They can just exhibit others'poor shape before theirs.
The average German will be utterly ruined by the time this ends. His savings will be worth zilch. That's the price for these idiotic pan European solidarity ideas that the Germans seem to be in love with.
And they are totally right to be in love with that as it works to their benefits.
Two agents:
-one is in debt for $10,000
-the other $10 in debt
Both are insolvent.
One goes deep into debt by $5 and give to the other
Mutualization of debt
one owes now $10,015
the other $10,015
One good thing is that one is also certain that the other will be never solvent again (in the previous, the only existence of the debt of one might be the factor behind the insolvency of the other)
Germany has the sweeter deal.
This is crazy talk. If one person is $10,000 in debt and one is $10 in debt and they become mutually liable for the total debt, they owe $10,010 total. They could split it 50/50 and owe $5005 each.
Unless this is like Thomas Jefferson and his brother-in-laws splitting up his father-in-laws estate before paying its debts, and then each of them owed an amount equal to the original debt of the estate. But how and why would they (Germany and Greece) do that?
One could borrow $10,000 and lend to the other to pay the original $10,000 debt, so one has $10,000 debt, while one has $10,010 debt countered by a $10,000 asset, but why and to what end?
Just curious, is English not your first language or do you just naturally have such bizarre sentence structure?
Mere diversion.
One and the other owe now 10,015. How they split it is irrelevant.
The main point to underline is the change in situation and who benefits from the move.
Splitting: one writes off one's debt. Letting the other holding the bag (worse case scenario, to be assessed in terms of risk taking).
Or the other writes off the other's debt. Letting one holding the bag.
Who has the sweeter deal? Who mutualization endangers the most?
I shudder to even imagine what playing Pictionary with you would be like.
Simply insert a Blue pickle in your ear to clear your vision...:>D
And bite the wax tadpole!
Yes. No sympathy. For the entirety of the Greek nation. Because they all are but a nation of crooks in a sleepy backwater, that does, and should not, threaten the entire financial global system, and they should contemplate the outcome of their en masse actions.
I'm guessing that you are part of a much, much superior nation, collectively infallible in character and where people control the totality of said nation's political and economic infrastructure as individual units.
Because if that's the case, then shit, I bow to your and your kinfolk otherworldly superiority.
Or you could reconsider your opus-like tripe on pigeonholing and exchange your moral throne for something that allows the removal of your head from your rectum at more frequent intervals.
My regards to Pala, you condescending c*nt.
"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws."
- Mayer Amschel Rothschild
Don't reverse the guilt. It's greece that is at (de)fault here. Its creditors are
only fools if they fail to seize the collateral and liquidate. Islands, anyone?
Merkel huh? Check this out. And when you look at her she actually looks like him.
Just so we’re all clear here and you understand. Merkel IS the daughter of Hitler. All one has to do is look at the history and any picture side by side of her and the Fuehrer, its uncanny.
****For your reading pleasure****
The vow made by Angela Merkel to unite the European Continent under one flag cannot be ignored, especially when viewed in the light of still secret, but ‘obtainable’, Soviet KGB archive files which present a terrifying portrait of the present German Chancellor as being the daughter of the former German Nazi Leader, Adolf Hitler.
Though said to be born on July 17, 1954 in the former Soviet controlled German Democratic Republic (East Germany), Angela Merkel’s Stasi GDR file (currently still held in the Soviet KGB archives) states that she was instead born on April 20, 1954, the birth date of her ‘true’ father, Adolph Hitler who was born on April 20, 1889.
The means of Angela Merkel’s birth, as detailed in these documents, was based upon the research of the German Doctor Carl Clauberg, and though classified as one of the worst Nazi ‘Angel of Death’ doctors, and convicted by the Soviet Courts as being a ‘war criminal’, was nevertheless freed by the Soviets as he was recognized as being the ‘Father’ of artificial insemination.
According to these reports, Doctor Clauberg was released by the Soviets after serving only seven years of his sentence in return for turning over to the KGB his hidden files on his Nazi artificial insemination experiments and, more horrifically, the frozen sperm of the former Nazi Dictator, Adolf Hitler.
Upon their receipt of the Nazi files on artificial insemination, along with Hitler’s frozen sperm, the Soviet Politicheskoye Buro (Politburo) authorized the experiments to ‘resurrect’, ‘if possible’, a child bearing the ‘genetic markers’ of Adolph Hitler.
Doctor Clauberg then brought to the GDR (Communist East Germany) the wife of Adolph Hitler’s, Eva Braun, youngest, and most devoted to the Third Reich, sister, Gretl to be the ‘surrogate’ mother for the intended offspring of the Hitler’s frozen sperm. It was ‘reasoned’ that the combining of the genes between Hitler’s sperm and Eva Braun’s closest family would produce for the Soviets a ‘near match’ of what a child of Hitler and Eva Braun would have been, should one have been born.
Upon the birth of Angela Merkel in 1954 it was ‘agreed upon’ by the Soviets, Americans and the Vatican, that she would be ‘placed’ under the ‘control’ of the Catholic Church through its ‘connections’ with the GDR Lutheran Church, and whom she was in fact placed with. Doctor Clauberg, after the birth of Hitler’s Daughter, and upon his return to West Germany was promptly imprisoned and then murdered almost two years later while still in custody of the West German and Americans.
In the, aforementioned, ‘agreement’ between the Soviets, the Western Powers and the Vatican, the ‘ascendancy’ of Hitler’s Daughter to power could not be achieved until the Vatican also brought to power a German Pope, and which was accomplished in 2005 following the death of Pope John Paul I, and which then brought to power the former German Nazi Joseph Ratzinger, and who is now known as Pope Benedict XVI, and who assumed the Leadership of the Roman Church on April 20, 2005 following his election the previous day.
(It goes without mentioning the significance of the present Nazi Pope taking power on the 116th birthday anniversary of Adolph Hitler.)
Quickly following the Nazi German Pope to European power, Hitler’s Daughter was elected as the Chancellor of Germany on November 22, 2005, and which is one of the most significant dates for the World Globalists, as it was on November 22, 1859 that the ‘final assault’ upon Christianity was made with the publishing of Charles Darwin’s “On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection”, and whose intention of fragment the Western Worlds peoples from their truest origins, and meanings, has succeeded beyond their expectations.
Today, the Daughter of Hitler, holding the same office as her father, Chancellor of Germany, is now the most powerful human being on our Earth as she is also the President of the European Union (EU) and the head of the powerful Western Economic Block known as the G-8.
More concerning, however, is that her Fathers dream of uniting Europe under German/Vatican control through war is now to be accomplished by his Daughter using deception. For as we have been taught from our ancient past, in the uniting of the Continent begins the destruction of our present World, and which as the New Comet runs, and as Mabus has died, begins the tribulations of awakening and Final Destruction of the dragons of old.
That's an impressive load of crazy you've got there!
I suppose it makes up for the recent lack of Obama secret muslim communist crazy.
Yeah I never believed any of that crap I just accurately describe him as an undeserving spoiled brat who refuses to allow the press to do any actual research on his background.. Still waiting for the grades and anything the man ever wrote at Harvard..
They say his real name is Barry Soetoro. He does look more Indonesian than African to me...
Throw you a bone: "My muslim faith." Another Freudian slip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw
"Your Quantum mechanical theory is crazy! But NOT crazy enough to be true!"
LONG TINFOIL !!
My dear 10 weeker, Chupacabra-322...
If you are going to take up 22 inches of column space anyway...
Just ask Tyler to guest post...
Oh, come on, so no one in the mainstream media has picked up on this? No one in the German Media has picked up on this? What it was a conspiracy that Hitler's daughter lives and runs Germany and no one knew except KGB/VATICAN/America? Put down the Meth pipe. Buddy seek help.
darlin' I think I'm in love ;-) - Ned
Damn! Somebody leaked the SNL script.
i heard merkel is the best at that board game Acropoly. she just passed GO and landed on Mykonos. shes got all three red properties now..santorini and cyclades were the other two she acquired....and shes got one of those get out jail free cards...they really come in handy when playing Acropoly......
Hmmm - playing Acropoly......
funny.
but you do know monoploy is already a greeek word? (monos + polein).
J Kyle Bass on Greece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXsi_uvxeRI&feature=related
Funny, nearly everyone's been saying that Germany will walk and the EU will fall, yet all we ever get is more and more concentration of power. Of course, "Germany" being a mere body politic, can't walk, as it has no legs! Merkel, OTOH, being a living entity, well, it looks like she's not going anywhere her masters (not to be confused with the Volksentscheid) don't want her to.
FUCKEDPIGGS: PIIGS+UK+France+Cyprus+Denmark+Estonia
ROTFL
Huh? Danish public debt/GDP is about 42%.
Rotten Contagion To Make Landfall In Denmark: CDS Set To Soar As Hedge Funds Target Country
You mean unlike every other country in the Western World?
If the housing bubble pops (and isn't inflated away), yes, then Denmark will be in a sea of shit. As will China. And Australia. Spain as well. And the UK. And the US. And France. Oh, and how about all those loans to the former Eastern Europe by banks in Austria, Sweden, Germany, ...
Not to forget that the US implicitly underwrites all of this through credit default swaps.
All CDS spreads ought to be zero, because once this giant puss-filled bubble pops, we're all going down.
Until then we will keep licking the balls of leprechauns for good luck and wish for the best.
The leprechauns sold their balls to a German bank.
Only Germans get to like Leprechaun balls.
Conclusion: something's rotten in Europe
Armada Markets just tweeted this stuff. Awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li0no7O9zmE
Sorry Tyler, but EU is not Germany. Germany has been always a net money contributor to the EU for decades. And the profiteers of the Euro are not the German people but the big corporations owned by the upper 1%. The majority of DAX companies belong to foreigners, not to Germans as a study recently revealed.
Giving up national sovereignty will be a necessity to save the Euro. This will apply not only to Greece but to all EU countries including Germany.
Merkel has the guts to tell the people the ugly truth what is necessary to save the Euro, while others hide. This is in the interest of Elites and they will benefit most. United States of Europe is coming faster than most think.
The Germans have already been the scapegoats for two world wars. IF the Euro collapses, a new world war could be the net result, and I'm sure the Germans are pretty desperate to make sure they're not the scapegoats this time around as well.
The winners write the history books, aren't they?
Made me laugh.
Have you read the title? First word?
Being the "scapegoat" for a war that might or might not be is not the concern of Germans.
Their concern is to know whether or not they would rule the next blob to come after paneuropean project is achieved.
Germany is already insolvent. It is not better than the other european countries.
They are broke like the others.
They cant help out nobody.
And becoming sovereign over another nation is in this situation certainly not a punishment.
Their concern is to know whether or not they would rule the next blob to come after paneuropean project is achieved.
How this? Germany has never been a souvereign country since 1945. And there has never been and there is no peace treaty after WW2.
Germany is already insolvent. It is not better than the other european countries.
Right, most developed countries are actually insolvent. What is done is kicking the can down the road.
It is not a road, it is a dead end street. One way! No exit!
If so, then the consequence is that an insolvent country can not bail out another country.
In Europe, no combinaison of countries (eg:France plus Germany) can help the others out.
Claiming that Greece, Portugual or another are bailed out is unfounded.
What is going on is an association of insolvent countries that want to acquire the critical mass required to deal with their insolvency (kicking the can and latter repudiation of debt) more easily.
Germany is working at the moment at getting at the top of that movement.
That's rather high on the text-decision-tree. Easily satisfied, but one wonders what the laugh signifies. Is it humour? No evidence of that in all of its correspondences. Is it ... ???
- Ned
ah, yes, The Balfour Declaration of 1917- Jewry Screws Germany
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0AxFf9Rpac
what a piece of crap. almost every single title card can be blown to smithereens by some
critical research... wow, 400+ hits since March. Don't underwhelm me!
here's something that has more truth in it and far far funnier... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFA-rOls8YA
Rap Battle of the Century: Adolph Hitler v. Darth Vader
The others hide?
Either some US citizens start to believe their own spin or they come with cheaper propaganda by the day (which they do)
The others do not hide, they work actively on suppressing sovereignty from european nations on the open.
They are drafting treaties in this direction, keep telling that constitutions should include golden rules on debt etc...
All the others walk in the open.
The propaganda strand in here was that Germany opposed that walk.
Which they never had.
You have to distinguish between "work actively" and telling people the truth
What do you mean by telling the truth?
The others tell the truth. They have told numerous times that taxation power must be transfered to European supranational state.
Cant blame them if some have not yet copied the message.
spelling algorithm malfunctions noted: "cant" :: "Empty, uncritical thought or talk"
Yep, that'z he/she/itz modus.
- Ned
Right now, Greece is probably regretting sending Leonides to Thermopylae.
the ancients have nothing on todays slavery
u'v gotta' be a'shittin' all of us.
Or u have no idea/clue/...
- Ned
reddie on ya!
Zum kotsen.
Kyle Bass on when the shit is going to hit the fan: http://bit.ly/ywzqNI