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Silvio Berlusconi: "We Don't Want Elections. We Want To Govern" - Tens Of Thousands Of Protestors Disagree

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Even as the EURUSD is surging because of, uh, we are not quite sure - HFTs hitting all stops most likely, it is only 9 short hours until BTPs, that one and only fulcrum security for the entire European continent reopens. And while for Greece getting a new government, even if one headed by a former Fed member is somehow good news (we wonder how the people will react knowing that their fate as debt slaves repaying European banks has just been sealed for a few more months), in Italy government "stability" (we realize the comic value of this statement) is the key to prevent a blow out to the 10 Year BTP, and the launch of a domnino cascade that will stop only with French OATs, and potentially rip through through that final firewall: Germany (with or without BuBa's billions in gold reserves... which we can only hope are not parked with the New York Fed). So back to Italian government "stability" which according to France 24 is not doing that hot. "Tens of thousands of Italians gathered in Rome on Saturday to protest Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's tackling of the country's sovereign debt crisis. "Silvio out" was the rallying cry for the large crowd that took part in the rally organised by the Democratic Party, the country's main opposition movement. Some demonstrators poured scorn on the prime minister after G-20 leaders humiliatingly put Italy's struggling economy under surveillance, amid a lack of trust in Berlusconi's reform pledges. At the summit in Cannes, the billionaire prime minister played down the gravity of the economic crisis with a trademark quip, claiming that "restaurants are full and the planes fully booked." "I go to restaurants... to do the washing up," read one banner at Saturday's mass demonstration." And the kicker is that over the weekend enough defections from his party have taken place which according to many, but not Silvio, are enough to lose him his majority: "There is growing concern Berlusconi no longer commands enough loyalty among MPs to ensure the quick passage that European and international financial officials say Rome must achieve to avoid falling victim to a dramatic debt crisis like that bringing Greece to its knees...  "We don't want elections. We want to govern," Berlusconi added." So much for democracy in yet another country, but he does bring up a fair demand, one shared by the increasingly more skeptical holders of BTPs. Because when Silvio finally falls, all bets are off.

More from France 24:

Berlusconi's popularity ratings have hit a record low of 22 percent, according to the latest poll released on Wednesday.

 

Energised by the large turnout, Democratic Paryt boss Pier Luigi Bersani reiterated his calls for Berlusconi to step aside, accusing him of being responsible for Italy's economic woes.

 

"Italy is on the most exposed side of the crisis because of an incompetent and discredited government," he said after singing the Italian anthem with the crowd.

 

"For the country's reconstruction, we urge Italians to put us to the test government and we will show them that we can be a reform party," he said.

 

"The sooner we send them to the junkyard the better," read one large placard at the rally, plastered with the pictures of Berlusconi's ministers, as pressure mounted on the 75-year-old leader's government.

 

The placard also included pictures of his lawyer Niccolo Ghedini and Nicole Minetti, the curvaceous former showgirl who was promoted as regional councillor in Milan after serving as Berlusconi's dental hygienist.

 

Both are symbols of what the opposition sees as a corrupt administration.

And from the AP:

There is growing concern Berlusconi no longer commands enough loyalty among MPs to ensure the quick passage that European and international financial officials say Rome must achieve to avoid falling victim to a dramatic debt crisis like that bringing Greece to its knees.

 

During an economic summit in France last week, Berlusconi asked the International Monetary Fund to monitor the country's reform efforts, a humiliating step for the eurozone's third-largest economy.

 

If his forces lose upcoming votes on the measures, the Italian president, who has repeatedly called on Berlusconi to take decisive steps immediately to rescue the nation, could intervene and rule that it is time for a new government.

Silvio's traditionally placating words:

"I am sorry to disappoint those who are nostalgic of the First republic when governments lasted an average of 11 months," he said in a statement.

 

My sense of "responsibility vis-a-vis the voters and the country... compels me and the government to continue our struggle for civilisation at a difficult time of crisis."

All we can say is stay focused on GBTP10YR Index GIP <go> beginning about 4 am Eastern, since the EURUSD is now largely irrelevant.

 


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Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:00 | Link to Comment midgetrannyporn
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gold bitchez?

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:13 | Link to Comment LeonardoFibonacci
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Bunga Bunga baby!

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:53 | Link to Comment midgetrannyporn
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Death by bunga!

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:56 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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With Silvio as bottom, I'll vote that up.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:04 | Link to Comment WestVillageIdiot
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Don't feed the midget tranny troll, Mscreant.  This fucknut is now on each thread just typing "gold bitchez" or "gold and silver bitchez".  It is meant as a slap against ZHers and the fact that ZH readers tend to believe gold and silver hold value.  This little troll deserves no response. 

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:09 | Link to Comment midgetrannyporn
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Ron Paul bitchez?

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:29 | Link to Comment WestVillageIdiot
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You are wonderful.  Please keep up your excellent posts.  They are very informative and educational.  Thank you for being here. 

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 22:42 | Link to Comment trav7777
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fuckin elections and goddamned electorate always fuckin things up...who the fuck do they think they are?!??!

Mon, 11/07/2011 - 03:32 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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  • What Does Plutonomy Mean?
  • Economic growth that is powered and consumed by the wealthiest upper class of society. Plutonomy refers to a society where the majority of the wealth is controlled by an ever-shrinking minority; as such, the economic growth of that society becomes dependent on the fortunes of that same wealthy minority.  

 

  • Investopedia explains Plutonomy
  • This buzz word was initially coined by analysts at Citigroup in 2005 to describe the incredible growth of the U.S. economy during that period despite increasing interest rates, commodity prices and an inflated national debt. Citigroup analysts argued that as such an economy continues to grow in the face of contradictory elements, the more important the society's ultra rich become to maintaining such growth. The analysts also believed that in addition to the U.S., Canada, Great Britain and China are also becoming plutonomies.

 

  • This interview was with a REPUBLICAN advisor from 2004

http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_phillips.html BILL MOYERS: With me now is a man who has been tracking the political and economic history of American wealth for a long time. Kevin Phillips and I were both young men in Washington in the 60s. We were on different sides but had a mutual interest in politics that reached workaday people. He was the chief political strategist for Richard Nixon's victory in 1968 and wrote the bombshell book on the emerging republican majority. Ten years ago his best-selling book on the politics of rich and poor influenced the 1992 elections. In his new book, WEALTH AND DEMOCRACY, he is writing about how big money and political power are the invisible hand in the hidden story of the American experience. Good to see you again.

KEVIN PHILLIPS: Well, the plutocracy ... and I think we have one now and we didn't, 12 years ago when I wrote THE POLITICS OF RICH AND POOR is when money has ceased just entertaining itself with leveraged buyouts and all the stuff they did in the '80s, and really takes over politics, and takes it over on both sides when money not only talks, money screams. When you start developing philosophies in which giving a check is a First Amendment right. That's incredible. But what you've got is that this is what money has done. It's produced the fusion of money and government. And that is plutocracy.

BILL MOYERS: But hasn't money always held politics hostage?

KEVIN PHILLIPS: Well, it's usually been very influential. And sometimes it really hasn't been too influential,

But what we've seen in the '80s and '90s is that it's taken control of both parties, pretty much taken control of the culture, and controls the whole dynamics of politics. And that is ...

BILL MOYERS: But the si- ...

 

KEVIN PHILLIPS: ... a plutocracy in a way that we haven't had before, since the gilded age.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:34 | Link to Comment rosex229
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I know I'll get a load of negative reviews for this, but, as I said on Wednesday, the end of the referendum and guarantee of greek bailout acceptance is a bullish signal. I must clarify though, these markets care only about the next 15 minutes not the next 15 weeks, or hours for that matter.

Once markets open the yield on Italian debt will fall (I'd guess it'll still be above 6%), but it will only be a temporary reprieve from its upward thrust. There will be temporary relief that the world didn't end this weekend, but reality has a stubborn habit of... well... existing, so as much as no one wants to hear it there will be a "relief rally". It will be small, temporary, and against all logical analysis, but it will happen.

Sometime soon the realization will kick in that nothing has changed, there are no solutions, no foriegn entities (barring the arrival of gullible extra-terrestrials) are contributing to the EFSF, Greece cannot handle 9 more years of austerity (shit we're only 18 months in), France is not AAA, the USA is not AAA... I could go on but everyone here already knows.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:40 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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seems to me the signal is "no debt monetization" thus forcing all the Italian banks to start buying the incredibly short debt maturity Italian debt. No wonder their banks are "buckling."

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:40 | Link to Comment jdelano
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You should have said there will (likely) be a relief rally as whenever anyone says markets will do this or that without a qualifier, the markets usually do the exact opposite, just to piss you off and illustrate the point that people who make definitive "prophetic" judgements about the markets are just as full of shit as the rest of us....

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:56 | Link to Comment rosex229
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Haha being that I am completely full of excrement (aren't we all) I readily admit that a number of trades have gone quite akwardly for me (yep that's a euphemism) but isn't that true for all of us?

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:11 | Link to Comment BKbroiler
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Silvio's has had enough, and he does not give a shit what the left thinks of him anymore.  Every week it's a new confidence vote and he always wins.  Italians mostly hate him because he lives the Italian stereotype out on the world stage and fucks anything that moves, but so what?  He brings tons of money in for Italy through contracts on handshake deals with all the world leaders who know and trust him, and no one in Italy can even come close. For Christ sakes, he got 200 of italy's hottest women to "convert" to Islam for Gadaffi just to score some oil contracts, one big shit show and it worked beautifully.  Putin and him are pals and party like real world leaders are allowed to, he fucks with Merkel for laughs, laughs at Sarkozy for fun, and says Obama has "a great tan"  

Berlusconi 2012! 

Mon, 11/07/2011 - 03:42 | Link to Comment hollowbody
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Actually BK,

Your line needs a slight correction:

Italians mostly LOVE him because he lives the Italian stereotype out on the world stage and fucks anything that moves

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:23 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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You are a sexy bitchez! ;)

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:01 | Link to Comment lapedochild
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100% agree, the GBTP10TR is now a leading indicator for all bourses...

Question though... sure, they want Berlusconi out, but is that because the Italians can't wait to enact the new austerity measures he's trying, but unable, to implement?

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:19 | Link to Comment paarsons
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Good citizens of Europe!

I've got sad news.

Bend over!  You are about to get it in the ass.

http://fucklloydblankfein.blogspot.com

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:02 | Link to Comment The4thStooge
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Bunga Bunga!

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:52 | Link to Comment midgetrannyporn
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Death by bunga!

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:04 | Link to Comment Boilermaker
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Hey, that's really interesti....FUTURES ARE UP!

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:05 | Link to Comment ZeroPower
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BTPs, HY and IG is what ill be watching. EURUSD while not irrelevant probably just needs some more time to resume a drop.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:06 | Link to Comment navy62802
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It will come crashing down soon enough. Have patience and use this time to prepare.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:08 | Link to Comment Animal Cracker
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"We don't want elections. We want to govern."

This is the most honest thing a politician has said in years.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:09 | Link to Comment Boilermaker
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Pure, unbridled, integrity!

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:48 | Link to Comment ziggy59
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Pure, unbridled fascism

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 22:23 | Link to Comment The Big Ching-aso
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"We don't want elections.  We want erections.   We also want to govern with an iron fist.  The best of all worlds.  It's good to be King."

There, fixed it for ya.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:09 | Link to Comment Boilermaker
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Expect futures to be up over a hundo by morning.  You can already see the shoving upward on all downward movement.  Jesus fucking Christ, give a rest already.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:13 | Link to Comment WestVillageIdiot
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Futures are already up.  It is looking good.  But more often than not futures start out red.  You go to bed and there are predictions of a big downward slump at the open.  Then some wise man pulls up with a pocketful of myrrh in Bethlehem and magically the futures shoot skyward.  The open is all green and we are off to the races.

I wouldn't have so many problems with the criminality of the stock market if the regular Joe wasn't forced to be a pawn by way of their meager 401k.  For most people there is almost no way to fully opt out of the system.  Giving up a 401k match is insane.  The dons of the financial world know how this works and take advantage of it. 

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:18 | Link to Comment Boilermaker
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...But more often than not futures start out red.

WHAT?  LMFAO.  Riiiiigggghhhtttt.

 

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:23 | Link to Comment WestVillageIdiot
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Happens all the time.  They are red when you go to bed and green when you rise.  This gets teh ball rolling and the shorts frying.  They have to at least make it seem that there is some chance that the markets will go down. 

"Blue Robo loves Lululemon"

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:30 | Link to Comment Boilermaker
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Well, no shit, they go up over night.  But, they don't open down a majority of the time by any stretch.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:10 | Link to Comment stopcpdotcom
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History unfolding in front of our eyes.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:13 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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EUR/USD is not surging...

unless +.00169 is "surging"

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:12 | Link to Comment agent default
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Berlusconi contrary to the perpetually in between jobs, professionally unemployed and unemployable political establishment, was a businessman.  He understands creditor risk, and knows that if he flips the banks the finger, they and the EU will be in more trouble than Italy will.  That's why TPTB don't want him in power.  Protests can be fermented very easily by shady characters with shady connections.  Had the masses not been so gullible, would we be in the mess we are right now?

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:16 | Link to Comment WestVillageIdiot
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Have you looked at the masses lately?  Even a quick review of their view on the world, and their own place in it, will not make you optimistic about society. 

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 21:50 | Link to Comment agent default
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You mean entitlement galore, it's all somebody else's fault coupled with some vague socioeconomic theory that makes no sense in terms of simple arithmetic never mind reality and laws of nature?  Sure.  In a way, I am glad for the upcoming collapse.  When I talk to some people I honestly wish they get whatever is coming because they deserve it.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:14 | Link to Comment chump666
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Bizarro HFT trading has kicked in, 100 point rally on the Aust markets in less than 10secs.  Risk is actually off if those lunatics care to look at bond/credit spreads blowing out on Italy. 

 

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:19 | Link to Comment Boilermaker
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How many average Joes and Jills look at the bond/credit speads blowing out on Italy?

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:48 | Link to Comment chump666
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They should.  That's how the re-finance con job from the ECB has being keeping the Italians afloat with money to buy food and keep themselves warm.

Silvio, IMO, is going to can this EU/IMF funded bullsh*t.  He will bankrupt the country and go back to the Lira.  Any good dictator would do that, send the country into a depression, then rebuild it with their own currency albeit depreciated.  If he pulls that seduction on the Italians, he will say to them, "would you like your monies going to French and Germany banks? huh"

Remember he has a tenure for another 2yrs. 

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:08 | Link to Comment Boilermaker
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They don't.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:26 | Link to Comment chump666
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yawn

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:28 | Link to Comment Boilermaker
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They still don't. <FART>

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:22 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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Can USA deploy some troops. Heck USA needs anoterh war for sure.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:23 | Link to Comment Zer0henge
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G&S Short squeezes bitchez

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:38 | Link to Comment nonclaim
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Does anybody have a short list for replacing Berlusconi?

It is easy to not like him, there's plenty of reasons, but the replacement should be for the ECB or against the ECB?

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:42 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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How 'bout you and me? I'll get my Jefferson "wig" if you bring your Dolly Madison bouffon--er, i mean bouffant...bouffant!

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:58 | Link to Comment midgetrannyporn
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Ron Paul bitchez.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:43 | Link to Comment Eally Ucked
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My choice Bunga Bungannini!

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:28 | Link to Comment solgundy
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progressivism is the present & the future......get use to it.......the few control the many

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:29 | Link to Comment paul_Liu
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"We don't want elections. We want to govern," Berlusconi added." So much for democracy in yet another country, but he does bring up a fair demand, one shared by the increasingly more skeptical holders of BTPs. Because when Silvio finally falls, all bets are off.

 

Really? People are saying if he resigns, BTP will drop 1%?

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:47 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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Which "people"? And what "people" will replace him?

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:59 | Link to Comment midgetrannyporn
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Ron Paul bitchez?

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:04 | Link to Comment BKbroiler
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exactly.  there's nobody.  Italians bitch and moan by instinct but Berlusconi is their only hope through this mess.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:33 | Link to Comment rhinotrader
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Asian futures are opening up! ZH has no clue! Keep shorting with them until there is nothing.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:20 | Link to Comment WestVillageIdiot
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Are you saying that ZHers have been shorting gold and silver, in anticipation of the world's monetary systems to work their way out of this mess?  Is that the shorting to which you refer?

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:39 | Link to Comment chump666
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you seen Asia's volume?, thin as Berlusconi's hairline ( huh? huh?...oh c'mon...)

Now you seen the trading ranges for US/European markets and you wanna go long? They are tight, too tight, like sell off from hell tight.

Those crazy Europeans have lost their brains, especially the Greeks, anyone buying into their inanity cycle is insane

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:48 | Link to Comment Eally Ucked
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Of course ZH has no clue! We live in different world which is called reality. Reality doesn't exist anymore so lets immerse in the world of fantasy.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:44 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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At least he still has his sense of humor with his "yearnings for the 1st Republic" comments. Italian sarcasm just doesn't come across as nearly as threatening as the German variant.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:51 | Link to Comment ziggy59
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hooo hooo..we are the world...

 

we are the sheeple...

 

la..la...la....

 

or is it ba ba ba

 

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:52 | Link to Comment chump666
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and the EUR is sell. 

 

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 19:55 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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this guy is funnier than joe piscopo

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:05 | Link to Comment Mark123
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What is most frustrating with all this mayhem is that it is almost impossible to make a quick buck off of it.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:52 | Link to Comment fonzanoon
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you could make a quick buck off it by just buying some stupid retail stock and riding  the year end rally. Or buy some stupid retail stock and waiting for the new years rally. Or the Europe did not implode today rally. I don't believe it. But at some point I will buy one, get clobbered and mush the whole f'n market trying to make a quick buck. It's like I can see the future.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:08 | Link to Comment Mark123
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Go long pasta.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:24 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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Getting rid of the shitty countries is bullish for the Euro.

Fear may be driving liquidity preferences also.
I think we can be sure Germany would rather see the eurozone fall apart rather than have significant inflation. To me that seems to explain the rising Euro.

Why would the euro drop if it breaks up and maintains its strongest core members?

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:28 | Link to Comment ThePiousPriest
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Things are going to get bad, and it's getting worse here in the US. Could we say revolutions of 1848 anyone? 

http://youtu.be/I0pX9LeE-g8

With police no longer obeying the Constitution, I'd suggest people start picking up some firearms. I'd recommend one of these: 

http://youtu.be/eNAohtjG14c

If it can shoot while on fire, congratulations, you have a reliable gun.  

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 21:15 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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Dont try a standoff fight with ak47s against the m16 and its variants, but for a running fight or ambush it is perfect. You can field a small people's force without a lot of logistics support and virtually zero maintenance

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 21:24 | Link to Comment ThePiousPriest
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I know the AR variants were designed with a longer range in mind, but Mikhail Kalishnakov knew that most combat was at 300 meters or less thus the AK was designed for that. Drop an AR in mud or water and it's game over for it. Distance vs Reliability seems to be the recurrent theme in this debate and I don't think it's going to be settled for a while. 

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:32 | Link to Comment Georgesblog
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These politicians are like little kids, playing house. The Monopoly money isn't real, and they can't buy penny candy with it. I don't expect any of them to step up and do the honorable thing. They deserve to bow out, in disgrace.

http://georgesblogforum.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/the-daily-climb-2/

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:49 | Link to Comment chump666
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ATHENS (Dow Jones)--Greece's major political parties on Sunday agreed to form a national unity government that will oversee elections after putting in place a debt-slashing deal, in the hope of averting financial catastrophe and winning back the trust of the nation's European partners.

hahahaha and then they want to "oversee elections"???  

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:58 | Link to Comment vamoose1
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Short the Zeuro. And short that child molester Macaroni while youre at it.

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 21:07 | Link to Comment bugs_
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we don't want to govern, we want to RULE

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 21:41 | Link to Comment Buck Johnson
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This is going to end badly.  I think in a few hours if not monday morning we are going to hear news about another company with derivatives having to file for bankruptcy (Jeffries, they had to have bought Italian bonds and have derivatives ont he other side of it also).

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 22:25 | Link to Comment Fozzy Slippers
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You think this asshole would have learned from what happened to Mussolini.

Mon, 11/07/2011 - 00:05 | Link to Comment RiverRoad
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And the crowds grow larger everyday....

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 23:55 | Link to Comment PulauHantu29
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"Oh yes, those people out there...how quaint they look.....Please close the curtains, waiter and yes, I'll have another glass of Chianti, the Reserve vintage please."

Mon, 11/07/2011 - 02:49 | Link to Comment Peter K
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Sad when a couple of thousand protesters and low ratings become a proxy for democratically elected officials. But I guess that crowd never really believed in gov of the people, by the people, and for the people. :(

Mon, 11/07/2011 - 02:56 | Link to Comment uranian
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excerpt from an interview a day or 2 ago by max keiser, with Birgitta Jónsdóttir, an Icelandic member of parliament:

 

...most politicians, or people in power, are puppets. They are puppets for the financial sector, and we just have to face it. It is really time that we look beyond the traditional politics, because let's face it, our democracies are dictatorships of many heads, becase we the people do not have access to the decision making...

 

iceland is actually still being raped by international banks, despite the reports; the IMF just privatised a state electricity company, for example.

 

seems to me that when you've got politicians noting that representative democracy has become a total failure and protesters around the world waking up to fiat money (we even have an occupy movement in my local sleepy town of 100,000 people), the game's afoot. these 2 basic steps, changing to a direct democracy and re-instating the gold standard are to my mind the most central steps in changing anything for the better.

Mon, 11/07/2011 - 04:46 | Link to Comment Use of Weapons
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If you Grep my posts, I linked to her blog about a week ago quoting a letter she joint wrote to the parliament over IMF actions. If you look back even further, about 4 months, I linked to the energy company story.

 

I'd also float the opinion that independent traders [non-aligned] are soon to be cut from the party. So far the warfare has been limited to major players, and crumbs around the edges haven't mattered - I think that's going to change. I suspect bandwidth and internet stability will become somewhat suboptimal - due to all the "cyberwar" being waged.

 

System-D & ways to mitigate central financial collapse have been interesting me recently - http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/10/28/black_market_global_eco...

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