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Sky News Reports Israel Preparing For Preemptive Strike On Iran

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First Fukushima made a repeat appearance last night with news of a repeat fission incident, a topic which has gotten absolutely zero media coverage as discussing beta, let alone gamma decay, is considered uncouth in refined society; now it is time for the fallback geopolitical hotbed to enter the stage. Sky News has reported that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is trying to rally support in his cabinet for an attack on Iran, according to government sources. "The country's defence minister Ehud Barak and the foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman are said to be among those backing a pre-emptive strike to neutralise Iran's nuclear ambitions. But a narrow majority of ministers currently oppose the move, which could trigger a wave of regional retaliation. The debate over possible Israeli military action has reached fever pitch in recent days with newspaper leader columns discussing the benefits and dangers of hitting Iran. Mr Lieberman responded to the reports of a push to gain cabinet approval by saying that "Iran poses the most dangerous threat to world order." But he said Israel's military options should not be a matter for public discussion." Which makes one wonder: why is Sky News reporting on this, and why is it a matter for public discussion?

More from Sky:

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) is due to report on the state of Iran’s nuclear capabilities on November 8, and that assessment is likely to influence Israel’s decision.

 

Western intelligence officials estimate that Iran is still at least two to three years away from obtaining a nuclear bomb.

 

Israel has long made it clear that it will not allow Iran to obtain a nuclear capability that could threaten the Jewish State.

 

Publicly it is pushing for a diplomatic offensive against Iran - including the imposition of sanctions - rather than a military strike.

 

But prime minister Netanyahu has repeatedly warned that all options are on the table.

 

Israel's former defence minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer told Haraatez newspaper that he feared a "horror scenario" if Israel attacked Iran.

 

Washington is also strongly opposed to Israel taking unilateral action.

 

Any strike on Iran could trigger retaliation from Iran and across the region.

 

Syria, a close ally of Tehran, could also launch attacks, along with the Iranian-backed Hizbollah militia in Lebanon.

All of this will surely end well if enacted. In the meantime, we present our favorite weekly chart update which we don't show nearly enough.

 

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Wed, 11/02/2011 - 08:57 | 1836240 LawsofPhysics
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Israel is simply doing the bidding of it's American master.  No big surprise here.  The spice must flow, and for a supressed price as well.  Junk away fucknuts, entropy will get you too.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 08:59 | 1836264 paarsons
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Let Israel do what Israel wants to do.

Just leave American blood out of it.

We've got enough fuckng problems.

http://fucklloydblankfein.blogspot.com

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:02 | 1836277 Carlyle Groupie
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Seriously. It's American Master?! Dumb-dumb. I thought the Vatican was it's master, lolz. Idiot spin troll.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:07 | 1836293 LawsofPhysics
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So you want to bet that America won't support Israel with troops and treasure (well more debt laid upon the taxpayer)?  Come on, put your money were you mouth is you fucking ignorant sheep.  I'll even give you 1000 to one odds.  You know America will all too happily provide blood and treasure for the Rothschild's war into an oil rich region.  How fucking stupid are you?  

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:31 | 1836375 LawsofPhysics
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Thanks for confirming.  Have a nice day.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:43 | 1836418 Harlequin001
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There's nothing like surprise when you launch a surprise attack, and this is nothing like  surprise.

This  has got to be one of the world's best kept secrets...

expect the death toll to be high with this one...

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:31 | 1836578 i-dog
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"expect the death toll to be high with this one"

That's the plan. The Sabbateans (Netanyahu, Barak, Lieberman and Peres) are no friends of the jews ... but are, coincidentally, good buddies with Rome.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 12:26 | 1837242 BigJim
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Oh good! Looks like WE'LL be the ones carrying this out:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/02/uk-military-iran-attack-nuclear

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 13:13 | 1837492 Troll Magnet
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There is a silver lining to all of this.  If Israel attacks Iran, we'll rush in like a bunch of war-starved mofos.  And when that happens, more people will wake up to Ron Paul's message. 

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 14:57 | 1838040 BigJim
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I'm not sure how many more silver linings the world can take.

Mon, 01/02/2012 - 20:27 | 2027299 swoop72
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and that would be why kbr was hired to fill the camps?

this machine WILL move forward.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 14:39 | 1837931 Harlequin001
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'But they warned the calculations could change because of mounting anxiety over intelligence gathered by western agencies, and the more belligerent posture that Iran appears to have been taking'

 beyond bizarre, and are we supposed to still believe in WMD, the tooth fairy and santa clause?

Thu, 11/03/2011 - 00:18 | 1839873 Joseph Jones
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It's well established the Rabbis, even to this day, state that the Jews killed by the Third Reich got what they deserved for disobeying and turning away from the Rabbis.  An interesting twist: While Rabbi-sycophant John McCain ran for president last time, he was condemned for hooking up with Zionist Churchian John Hagee.  How'd McCain divorce Hagee?  McCain's campaign condemed Hagee for saying exactly what the Rabbis say all the time: g_d bless Hitler for killing the Jews who disobyed the Rabbis!  It's OK when they say it, you know, like when blacks use the N word.   

Upon order of their Rabbi masters, the 1st Session of the 102nd US Congress passed Public Law 102-14 in 1991.  This law accords "...official recognition of the Federal government's legal oblication 'to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws'...Stupid, naive goyim are not told that in order to faithfully adhere to the so-called Seven Laws of Noah, 'righteous gentiles' are obligated to submit to rabbinic interpretations of those laws.  The Talmud commands the death penalty for idolatry.  Since Rabbi Maimonides ruled that Christians are idolaters, US law laid the groudwork for the execution at some future date (when the Rabbis have complete control) of authentic Christians.

No words (except for maybe some Yiddish) can accurately describe the extent to which goyim are suckered by the philosophy of the Rabbis.

Thu, 11/03/2011 - 04:01 | 1840000 i-dog
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You seem to be flying off on some weird tangent!!

The only thing that Public Law 102-14 of the US Congress resolved was that one of the 365 days in the year 1991 be declared as "Education Day, U.S.A."!!!

Here is the full resolution (from here):

"Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide Lubavitch movement, is designated as `Education Day, U.S.A. '. The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities."

"Approved March 20, 1991. Signed by George Bush, President of the United States of America"

Some goys are obviously more easily suckered than others!! ;)

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 13:38 | 1850674 Joseph Jones
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Obfuscation, lying, denial, and edited/censored text are prime ingredients of "Rabbinical Talmudism", which your post promotes.  See this link:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c102:H.J.RES.104.ENR:

Your edited version omits the 2nd line from above:

"...Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws..."

Again: The Rabbis can and do, at their whim, interpret the "Seven Noahide Laws" to mean whatever they want whenever they want.  Now, while the Rabbis lack total control (though they gain in power daily), they do not line up Christians and kill them for idolatry. 

But Rabbi Maimonedes indeed labels Christianty as idol worship.  So indeed, when their power is fully realized, the above law could and will be enforced and Christians will be slaughtered wholesale, same as Arab-Islam is now.

"Futurism" is the Zionist-quasi-Chrisitan false belief that Jesus returns in the future in Jerusalem.  False/marginal Chrisitans wrongly believe that "physical Israel" still exists.  The truth is since 70AD there is no physical Israel from a Biblical viewpoint.  So faith in a physical Israel is the true Christian idolatry.  The belief in a "chosen race", saved by race (not grace) is the true idolatry promoted by every single Rabbi, no matter how big the smile on his face.   

Sun, 11/06/2011 - 20:28 | 1851613 i-dog
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Sheesh! You can't fix stupid!!

I quoted the resolution (ie. what has been resolved to enact), while you are simply quoting [again] from the preamble (ie. meaningless assumptions).

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:43 | 1836420 gmrpeabody
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Still..., if I had to pick a side, and just to piss a lot of you off, I'd choose Israel.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:44 | 1836424 Harlequin001
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That's ok...

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:47 | 1836438 TruthInSunshine
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I can feel another Nobel Peace Prize coming this way...

...warm & fuzzy.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:57 | 1836700 i-dog
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Yep. Obomber is a shoo in ... with a piece of Iran for the oil men and a piece of Israel (Jerusalem under a NATO "piece keeping" force) for Rome. Win-win all round!

Might be a few casualties (like, most of the Shi'ites and Jews gone), but you can't make an omelette without.......

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:06 | 1836782 john39
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oh those poor Jews, always so taken advantage of...   and kicked out of so many countries throughout history for no good reason....   after all the good they have done with their monetary and "religious" practices too... /s...   all that good stuff they learned in babylon, and no one appreciates them for it.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 14:44 | 1837968 Harlequin001
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Tosser...

Mon, 01/02/2012 - 20:39 | 2027320 swoop72
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ive said for years now, after watching an episode of star trek tng, i know how to deal with this problem. just pick them up, and move them to nevada, arizona or utah. its all sand and we aint usin it. problem fkin' solved. you dont loose any square footage, and no more rocket attacks.

and if by chance our sand isnt good enough, and you have to have THAT sand....we will transplant it....over here.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:37 | 1836403 quintago
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It's bowl shit. If Israel is going to do something it does it first then stays silent afterwards. The fact that there are leaks and public discussion leads me to believe they don't have the capability or know that it will cause a shitstorm that they may not be able to deal with after the strike is done.

Or better yet.... the US has told them their planes might get shot out of the sky if the try anything stupid. This is unlikely though given how we walk around with our tongues out ready to give the Israelis a rim job anytime they so request one.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:23 | 1836884 AmericanFUPAcabra
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No no silly, the "leaks" are to get Iran to strike first so Isreal is justified. Remember, its not assault if they throw the first punch son...

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 12:43 | 1837343 infocyde
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AmericanFUPAcabra I think you get it.  This is all a psyop to draw the Iranians and their proxies out.  Syria has bio/chem weapons.  If one of them touches down on Israel, Israel then has the green light to do what it takes.  I wouldn't want to be in Demascus nor Tehran right now, or Israel for that matter.  I hear it will really take tac nukes to dig out the burried Iranian weapons plants.  Bunker busters may not cut it.

And then will the Iranians hold us reponsible? I've heard rumors of at least five former Soviet nukes smuggled in.  Will they go boom?

 

Thu, 11/03/2011 - 00:23 | 1839877 Joseph Jones
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"Israelis"??? WTH?  You mean they are not "Israelites", god's "chosenites", saved by "race"? 

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 14:19 | 1837775 zenbones
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"Rothschild's war"

Exactly.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:45 | 1836648 Spastica Rex
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Like I've said before: the real wizards behind the curtain are the Zen Buddhists and/or the Hutterites.

OPEN YOUR EYES!

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:58 | 1837122 Arthor Bearing
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7th Day Adventists are controlling Barrack Obama with radio waves

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 12:42 | 1837334 Lower Class Elite
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Amish jihad, bitches!

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:04 | 1836288 Comay Mierda
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"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - Einstein"

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:13 | 1836316 Nascent_Variable
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Israel recently tested a missile that can hit Iran with a nuclear warhead, so shit could hit the fan very, very soon.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:39 | 1836381 Ancona
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Dropping nukes on Iran would be insane. I'm not taking a side either way here, just trying to be objective. The saber rattling has intensified recently, and with the alleged plot to assassinate an ambassador to Saudi Arabia, I think they are setting up to allow Israeli planes......somewhere, via S.A.

That said, a nuke attack on an operating reactor is unthinkable. Why would the PTB want to irradiate one of the largest known oil reserves in the world? Isn't that self defeating? What would stop Syria, Lebanon and Egypt from simultaneously going apeshit on Israel? After all, they cant nuke everyone and surround themselves with radiation now can they?

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:46 | 1836434 Harlequin001
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It wouldn't irradiate the oil if it was below ground...

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:58 | 1836466 Ancona
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I agree, but if the ground above the oil were turned in to a giant sheet of irradiated Trinitite, how would you get the oil below?

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:28 | 1836568 Harlequin001
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Drill sideways...

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:38 | 1836615 DarkestPhoenix
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I drink YOUR milkshake.

Mon, 01/02/2012 - 20:47 | 2027336 swoop72
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+1 for the DDL refrence

cant wait for the LINCOLN  movie. show me the REAL man. the one that hung like 50 horse theives in the largest public exucition ever, or something like that.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:47 | 1836657 BigJim
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...Dropping nukes on Iran would be insane.

Thinking you are God's chosen people is insane. But once this worldview is taken into consideration, it allows you to view Israel's actions with some realism.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:53 | 1836698 Spastica Rex
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This fellow told me yesterday that nuclear war is no big deal:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-increasing-volatility-prelude-crash#comment-1833252

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:37 | 1836390 tarsubil
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Well, this is TPTB trying to throw some stuff at the stuff flying towards the fan in hopes of deflecting it away from imminent fan hitage. Sorta like a missile shield. When people start buying oil with gold, then the stuff will have officially hit the fan. Unfortunately, so much stuff is flying around fan hitage is unavoidable at this point. TPTB are going to have to put a serious amount of stuff in the air to protect the fan from all this other stuff.

Mon, 01/02/2012 - 21:09 | 2027371 swoop72
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you just made me think of how they monitor all the objects orbiting the planet. sounds funny when you replace earth with a giant fan.

 

hey, what did i just do to enlarge my text?

all i did was post.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:01 | 1836746 Abitdodgie
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Iran has a lot of "sunburst" missiles , you cannot stop the they fly at about 7000 feet per second and are very accurate, goodbuy aircraft carriers

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 13:10 | 1837365 infocyde
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Assuming a converted ohio class cruise missle sub doesn't clean the coast of them first.  Ultimately agree though, carriers are a big target easily overwhelmed by realtively cheap missiles.

Mon, 01/02/2012 - 21:17 | 2027381 swoop72
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ever heard of a sea wiz?

a mosquito couldnt get past that thing.

4 billion shots per second or something stupid like that. its designed to shoot down incomming missles. one day the guys were screwing around and decided to send a signal to block the sea wiz. it locked onto the tower that was broadcasting the signal, and proceded to saw it in half, crashing on the deck, before returning to its original target.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:43 | 1837020 Joe Sixpack
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And people wonder why Iran is interested in nukes.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 12:40 | 1837324 Christophe2
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Indeed.  Although I am against nuclear proliferation, I can't help but feel the whole world would be a lot safer if Iran had nukes.  That's about the only thing that would stop Israel/US/NATO from ganging up on it.  NUKES IN IRAN FOR WORLD PEACE!

Thu, 11/03/2011 - 00:31 | 1839889 Joseph Jones
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Read Michael Collins' books.  JFK ordered Israel not to go nuclear because it would start endless nuclear proliferation (JFK also planned to take apart the CIA because it was a loose cannon, the 4th branch of government).  Mossad killed JFK (an American coupe), LBJ OK's Israel to go nuclear, and away you go.

Stone's JFK movie was pretty accurate except of course the Jewish (are there Jews in Hollywood?) producers left out the Mossad part. 

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:09 | 1836299 knukles
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Sky News reports, it must be true,  An integral part of the "Fair and Balanced Family Propaganda System" piped right into your home.  For a modest monthly fee. 

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:14 | 1836314 goldfreak
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how many times did this rumor go around already?

And like the Israelis are going to let SKy news know before they hit so the Iranians can be prepared for it

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:29 | 1836571 john39
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the Iranians have been ready for a long time.  Not like they don't know that Iran is number 1 on Rothschild hit list.  But Iran is no Libya, once they start this in motion the world will be forever changed.  

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:16 | 1836844 i-dog
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Rothschild couldn't give a shit about Iran ... but the papists do. To the Vatican, Shia Islam is a heresy (because they don't recognise the Pope as the sole spiritual leader of the planet with a hotline to God) whereas the Sunnis (eg. Saudi Arabia) are more accomodating. Hence the coming engineered battle of mutual destruction between the Jews and the Shia - with NATO watching on the sidelines and supplying both sides with munitions to "keep it interesting".

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:29 | 1836929 john39
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I respectfully disagree.  it is the Christians and Muslims that have been pitted against each other.   And we don't really need to speculate why or by who.  The vatican is just a useful tool, certainly not the top dog in the NWO, basically a strawman to direct attention away from the real power.  Notice how the pope is used to make the call for a world bank...  would be a bit too obvious if the Rothschilds did it directly.  besides, that is not how it works, they play from behind the scenes.  

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 19:01 | 1837678 i-dog
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"Christians and Muslims that have been pitted against each other"

By whom? Are you suggesting that Rothschild was around in 610AD when Muhammad was tutored by the Augustinians (who ghost-wrote the Khoran) and then married a Catholic nun?

"The vatican is just a useful tool"

Riiiiight. A useful tool with 2 billion adherents, a few hundred thousand scheming academic clergy working under an ideology, thousands of committed "knights" (crusaders) under various Orders - and an unbroken 1,800 year history of attempting to rule the world from Rome.

Nearly all current world leaders have sworn allegiance to Rome. The RIIA, Bilderberg, Trilateral, CFR and various other think tanks were all started by Knights of Malta who swore allegiance to Rome. All the major secret societies are also directed from Rome. But you seem to think that Rothschild and a couple of other bankers are planning everything over a game of croquet ... and have been doing so for centuries? Think again.

"Notice how the pope is used to make the call for a world bank"

That wasn't the Pope ... that was some functionary in the Vatican trying to be "helpful" to the European mess that let the cat slip out of the bag, then the story was buried faster than you could say "Hail Mary". I'll bet that Cardinal has since been demoted to a novice! There was zero coverage from either mainstream or alternative media (not a mention on ZH; no comment from Alex Jones; a short-lived link on Drudge) until Max Keiser briefly covered it a week later (then also removed the brief separately-headlined clip from his blog the next day). That story was not meant to come out ... yet!

It is indeed planned from behind the scenes, but not controlled by whom you think it is. The nobility, priests and bankers have always worked together ... they need each other.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:09 | 1836302 El Viejo
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Unfortunately we have contractural (treaty) obligations signed in blood.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:51 | 1836450 Sudden Debt
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talking about those contracts, YOU STILL OWN ME 6 POUNDS OF YOUR FLESH!!

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 15:32 | 1838227 GiantVampireSqu...
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Hey , no pounds allowed don't euro know ! ..

... we're metricated now  ,

The new expression is : "  450 grams of flesh , no fat , no carbon miles . "

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:10 | 1836304 ZackAttack
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I don't think that plays with the mouth-breathers over here. Best I can make of their silly little beliefs, apparently Israel has to exist in order for the cosmic zombie to return and establish the reign of the undead.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:21 | 1836337 caconhma
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Hopefully, Israel and Iran nuke each other to a complete extinction.  Two malignant cancers will be removed at once.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:40 | 1836414 caconhma
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Both Iraq and Libya were a very convenient target: Gaddafi and Saddam did not believe in being invaded and were ready to negotiate to the dead end.

If Iranians make it clear that the military actions will take place in Israel, France, Germany, and England, there will not be any war. The fucking West  is looking for easy targets. It is not ready for a real war. It is only good fighting with CIA-controlled phantom Al Qaida “terrorists”. Note how many Al Qaida leaders were killed and none of Taliban.

The history note. The Soviet scientist Andrei Sakharov, in late 1950s, proposed to mined American Pacific and Atlantic coasts with 100MT nuclear devices and, at the first US provocation, blow them up. If Nikita Khrushchev listened to him, there would not be any arm race.

 

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:26 | 1836562 ZackAttack
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So far, the pattern has been - If you have nukes (North Korea, Pakistan, Iran so far), you get left alone. If not (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc), you get invaded.

My take is, even the Caesars knew better than to bring a hardened army home to a restive populace.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:22 | 1836877 barkingbill
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that 9 people like this and two disagree doesn't say much for the humanity of zero hedge comment board. 

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:37 | 1836988 tmosley
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Two tumors.  America is the main cancerous mass, and it has been metastasizing since the end of WWII.

Thu, 11/03/2011 - 05:48 | 1840042 jackbooted gauleiter
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Could it be that British policy in Palestine in the years 1945 to 1948, which limited immigration in order to keep the peace in the region, can now be seen to have been wiser than the Soviet backed formation of the state of Israel?

Can we look forward to the banning of that propaganda film "Exodus" which unfairly villifies what is now obvious as a sensible and humane policy?

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:46 | 1836437 monkeyboy
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And the black swans just keep on coming...hell of a wedge formation appearing.

 

 

Thu, 11/03/2011 - 05:50 | 1840043 jackbooted gauleiter
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"hell of a wedge formation appearing"

Is that a bullish or bearish pattern?

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:56 | 1836462 ToNYC
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The tail trying to wag the dog may render both worth less.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:23 | 1836342 SheepDog-One
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Who has Iran ever attacked, can anyone name a single strike theyve ever carried out on anyone?

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:28 | 1836354 TruthInSunshine
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Iraq, whom we were arming at the time, when Rumsfeld was meeting, greeting, wining and dining Saddam Hussein, like he was one of his best buddies in the whole wide world.

Bunga-Bunga

(Actually, I do believe it was Iraq that attacked Iran, however, so to answer your question directly, no - though the Persian Empire did attack Leonidas and his 300)

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:14 | 1836512 High Plains Drifter
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no, iraq attacked first. tried to use a blitzkreig kind of thing. ran out of steam and bogged down in one of the cities in iran, where resistance became stronger and stronger.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaOEnctICcs

 

husseins's conscripts were poorly trained and bolted had problems at the first sight of trouble. 

 

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:49 | 1836443 Harlequin001
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We'll try not to mention the Persian empire shall we?

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:59 | 1836470 ToNYC
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We must hate on them because they don't let young women get on the pole by nine years of age.

Thu, 11/03/2011 - 05:44 | 1840039 jackbooted gauleiter
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That's not the problem, it's middle aged men on the poll that's the problem.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:53 | 1836453 Robert Neville
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Iran under the current régime hasn’t had the balls to attack anyone directly. They have been responsible for numerous attacks though their proxies such Hezbollah. They are also a major supplier of weapons to jihadi groups. Ahmadinejad believes he was put on earth by god to bring on the Muslim apocalypse.  As to whether he has the capability or not is a subject for debate. Hitter also announced his intentions to the world and nobody paid much attention.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:34 | 1836590 john39
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really, and you know all that because Fox news and/or U.S. intelligence reported it?  must be so...    but wait, curious who the world's largest arms supplier is?  yeah that's right, the largest terrorist organization in the world, responsible for more dealth and destruction than any force in world history....  the so called "good guys"....    U.S. and its war club, Nato, aka, ZATO, zionist armies of total occupation.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:51 | 1836683 Max Hunter
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Exactly... I thought that was Bill O'Reilly for a moment.. Still not sure..

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:34 | 1836970 tocointhephrase
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Spot on. The largest rim of them all!

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:34 | 1836972 tocointhephrase
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Spot on. The largest rim of them all!

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:16 | 1836843 Abitdodgie
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Robert Neville , that is the biggest load of crap I have ever heard, IF Iran wanted nukes they would buy them from Russia but they dont because it is againts there religion .We have so many sanction against Iran it makes it hard for them to even sell there oil.         "America is the terrorist of the world"

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:57 | 1837109 Robert Neville
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 It’s all well documented. I worked on a project pertaining to IED’s used in various places. A surprising number of the components come from Iran. Read some of Ahmadinejad’s speeches instead of barking out your ass with kneejerk anti-Americanism. For real fun watch his last speech in front of the UN. The guy is a total nut job. By the way, I didn't even mention nukes.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 13:20 | 1837528 Cathartes Aura
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. . . and I take it you've "read some" of his speeches, in their original language, not the numerous western "translations" variants from the various nooos sources indoctrinating the masses, yes?

I've no love for the guy, but to base a nuclear attack on a nation's peoples because of mis-reported, deliberately mis-represented speeches is the height of insanity - ahhh, carry on. . .

Thu, 11/03/2011 - 05:59 | 1840046 jackbooted gauleiter
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"A surprising number of the components come from Iran."

So finally we see the consequence of American policy to allow "self determination".

When the third world were under the benevolent care of the European empires, they were stuck as primary producers while anything "technological" was manufactured in Europe.

This enlightened policy ensured that the subject peoples were not only ruled by enlightened Europeans, but were also unable to mount an effective challenge to this natural order.

Additionally, were these empires still in existence would we now be facing tropical deforestation outside of South America? No. What a disaster American post WWII policy has turned out to be.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:16 | 1836849 High Plains Drifter
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there are about 100,000 persian jews living in iraq. there are many jews high up in government and in the armed forces there. iran has had a long standing agreement with israhole that any jew that wishes to move to israhole may do so without any problems. iranians have no problems with jews per se. if it was so bad for jews in iran, then why don't they all leave?  hell, the president himself is a jew, for crying out loud.......so all of this talk about iran bad, is just bullshit...........things in this world are never the way they are portrayed by the media or any talking head....you have to dig and study on it , and see the game that they are playing .........they know most people will not do this.........the internet is there for all to use to study and enlighten one's self. do it while you still can. 

Thu, 11/03/2011 - 16:15 | 1842943 Oh regional Indian
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Eggzactly. HPD and ZackAttack with his pointed observations...

 

war-memes-me-iran-israel-uk-us-social-engineering-planted-stories

 

ORI

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:14 | 1836511 LasVegasDave
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BY PROXY US SOLDIERS IN iRAQ

AND THE ISRAELI EMBASSY IN ARGENTINA

BUT THESE ARE SMALL MATTERS

THEY ARE AFTER ALL A PEACE LOVING PEOPLE

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:29 | 1836570 ZackAttack
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Well, they did induce the turd Bush into destroying their one natural enemy and handing them a dominant position in the ME.

But that's just pwnage, and well-played, not an actual invasion.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:07 | 1836793 Abitdodgie
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That is why we HAVE to attack them we cannot be having them spread there un-American ways around the world ,good God no more wars living in peace that is not an option

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 12:52 | 1837395 infocyde
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Iran through proxies has killed and wounded thousands of US troops in Iraq and A'stan using IED's.  I'm not trying to spin this politically one way or another.  It just is a fact.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:30 | 1836370 oldman
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Hey Law,

Green in sympathy. This show's a no-go also.

It seems one can get anything one wants out in print

I wonder what this means? Anyway, as long as we pay attention to Israel and ----Now, this oldman is doing it, also! Paying attention to fear anf loathing by responding at all-----

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:37 | 1836396 LawsofPhysics
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I agree, buy the rumor, sell the news.  In reality, Israel does nothing, America funds them and, aside from their own defense, does their military bidding outside their boarders.  The only truth is that the spice must flow as the world's economies still largely run on oil.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:01 | 1836480 High Plains Drifter
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oh we are the masters. ?   well i am glad, according to you, that we are the masters of something....

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 15:10 | 1838116 william shatner
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First target, the iran oil bourse!

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 08:55 | 1836241 zilverreiger
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All in line with the surge in radical jew videos lately,

Sigh, for what, bunch of backward dickheads should leave people be.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 08:56 | 1836249 sunnydays
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How disgusting.  NWO just does not stop invading countries when the leaders are not part of their Rothschild banking group.  They have been wanting to invade Iran for years now, I guess they have to take the heat off all the economic break down by starting yet another war.  I have no doubt the U.S. will be right there with Israel.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 08:57 | 1836252 LawsofPhysics
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Even the NWO needs oil to remain cheap for a while longer.  The spice must flow.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:01 | 1836268 MFL8240
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If the UN says we go to war with Isreal against Iran to protect the Iraqi Oil than of course their boy Obama will do what he is told to bost his reelection slush fund from the Jewish Banking Cartel that has ruined the global economy.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:00 | 1836269 TradingJoe
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One reaosn to pull out of Iraq...redeployment anyone?!?!

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:03 | 1836283 SeverinSlade
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That's precisely what I've been saying.  Pull out of Iraq and Obama gets to say "See?!  I fulfilled ONE of my campaign promises!" only to quickly redeploy the forces to Iran, Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, Somalia, etc.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:24 | 1836344 TruthInSunshine
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By and Published: October 29, 2011

MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. — The Obama administration plans to bolster the American military presence in the Persian Gulf after it withdraws the remaining troops from Iraq this year, according to officials and diplomats. That repositioning could include new combat forces in Kuwait able to respond to a collapse of security in Iraq or a military confrontation with Iran.

US Plans Post-Iraq Troop Increase in Persian Gulf - New York Times
Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:46 | 1836435 SeverinSlade
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I really wish there were a triple leveraged ETF that tracks the BS coming out of Obumma's mouth.  I'd sure as shit be long.

Seriously, it's so goddamn simple to predict what he's going to do.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:03 | 1836284 LawsofPhysics
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Yep, sure as hell don't want these men and women coming home, then they would have to be employed.  Where are the Jobs Mr. President?

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:00 | 1836477 kridkrid
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Interestingly.... the city where I live is running what must be a pretty expensive ad campaign for police recruitment (though I suppose since all I really watch on TV is sports, it may just be a highly targeted campaign).  If we were to ever transition those troops home...

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:23 | 1836550 LawsofPhysics
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Hey, they are already used to fighting in the ghettos around the world.  Makes sense.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:43 | 1836644 kridkrid
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I've heard people posit that everything our military has done over the past 10 years is little more than OJT for what's coming next.  It usually is in the context of a broader war in the middle east, but certainly urban/ghetto warfare translates back home.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 13:30 | 1837575 Cathartes Aura
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indeed, if I wanted to recruit forces to guard my shit from the population at large, sports TeeVee would be my first choice. . .

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:25 | 1836348 SheepDog-One
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And dont worry, the Rothschilds banking cartel certainly isnt 'jewish' or anything.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:55 | 1836458 SMG
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Actually it's not, it's Illuminati/Luciferian.   Different religion.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:57 | 1836727 SheepDog-One
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Yea, like I said.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:29 | 1836934 Tsunami Wave
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I'd rather have Niggas With Attitude over New World Order any day of the week...

 

NWA > NWO

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 12:52 | 1837396 Lower Class Elite
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When I'm in your neighborhood, you better duck

'Cause Ice Cube is crazy as FUCK.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 08:55 | 1836250 disabledvet
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What if Iran pre-empts the preemption? "All is well"? I mean "war talk" is all fun and games...until you get the war of course.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:04 | 1836285 MFL8240
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Not so, this President who never held a job let alone was in our military is thrilled with the idea of another military offensive to distract attention from his failed Presidency.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 13:58 | 1837674 FeralSerf
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If he really has never held a job, where did he get his spending money prior to his "government service"?

Obama is and always has been a CIA covert asset.  That's his job.  It sometimes pays very well and he doesn't need to declare any of the income.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:13 | 1836310 sqz
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Except Iran has never invaded or started a war with anyone since the 18th century.

Contrary to media and military propaganda, for the size of their country and army, Iran is even less of a warmonger in contemporary terms than Canada. Unlike Canada, they don't contribute to the American-led NATO or UN to interfere with other sovereign states on a routine basis.

Iran is also the only country in the Middle East that has never been colonized by the West. Obviously, this independence must be very frustrating to some...

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:26 | 1836353 SheepDog-One
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Exactly right sqz, anyone name a single time Iran has ever attacked anybody? I cant. But I can name plenty of times the US and Israel have carried out attacks on others.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 12:57 | 1837425 infocyde
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Iran has attacked and killed US troops numerous times by using IED's and proxies in Iraq and A'stan.  Iran is also responsible for supporting things like this-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing

I'm not a war monger, I don't want to see a bunch of innocent Iranians get killed. I think war in the region would be catastrophic. I also believe Iran already has nukes.  100's disappeared from the Soviet arsenal, and their have been numerous reports, some even within the last few days, that Iran has some of these weapons.

http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/5304

 So why this buildup to war is happening now has to do with something other than Iranian nukes. But let's don't put any blinders on to the fact that the Iranian regime is guiltless or angelic.  They are neither.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 13:51 | 1837644 prole
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Not a warmonger. A propagandista and a liar.

"Let's" "Let's?" Let's implies a You and a us together as "us."

If you dislike Iran for whatever reason (I don't) grab a gun and go get em.

I'll be rooting for Iran! GO IRAN!!

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 15:19 | 1838154 infocyde
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I've been promoted to a propagandista!  Sweet. 

 

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:50 | 1836448 SeverinSlade
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I think that's the plan.  Israel is really provoking Iran to say/do something stupid which they'd use as another excuse to attack.

The British did the same thing with Hitler in WWII to justify bombing the shit out of German civilians.  The "good guys" always need an excuse to justify their war.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 08:56 | 1836251 CPL
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Watch how badly this turns out.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:54 | 1836455 narnia
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It's not going to end well for Israel whether they strike or don't strike, whether the US engages or doesn't engage.

We'd do the world a big favor if we offered up the Big Island of Hawaii for a mass emigration & Israel accepted. 

 

 

 

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:00 | 1836731 CPL
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Double post...

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:58 | 1836733 CPL
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Israel has the exact same problems with food prices, space, housing, infrastructure, government, water, power, Oil (I know it's weird, they've been having big supply problems for a while) as all the rest of the MENA. Population problems basically mixed with the usual shit.  And that very unique first world problem, nobody is dropping dead fast enough so the demographics are very heavily weighed in the retiree category.

 

Just because they are Jewish doesn't mean the place isn't run by a bunch of inbred cludge fisted dipshits.  Seems to be standard practice for all governments nowadays to put the dirtiest, dumbest sock puppet in charge.

 

If Israel is looking for a population reduction programme, war is by far the easiest route.  Cut the young population down and shed the elders that are as tenacious as cockroaches then hope you don't repeat the baby boom cycle after a nice, big war.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 08:57 | 1836254 Momauguin Joe
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A 50 megaton bomb dropped on Tel Aviv would generate peace in that region of the world for at least the next 500 years.  

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:02 | 1836262 LawsofPhysics
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True, althougn I was just thinking there is no way anyone else will get junked any more than me.  We'll see, I sense that there are a lot of unemployed marxist sheep on the internet this morning.  Notice how they are junking my comment up top but in every other thread mentioning America supporting this move, they have given the comment a thumbs up.  fucking stupid sheep, more useful idiots for the NWO.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:06 | 1836291 Momauguin Joe
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Shabbos Goyim

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:09 | 1836303 LawsofPhysics
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Indeed, but don't scare the sheep there is shearing to be done.  We need the wool for some new winter coats.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:22 | 1836339 Momauguin Joe
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I thought they would have held off until March 8th. PURIMFEST! TRADITION!

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:13 | 1836315 lizzy36
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Yeah because the arabs all get along so well.

Guranteed Peace for at least 2 weeks (over/under) i take the under.

The world actually needs less democracy and MORE Sharia law.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:25 | 1836346 Momauguin Joe
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Do Arabs shake down the US of A for $$ BILLIONS in "Aid" every year?

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:45 | 1836426 Calmyourself
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Yes, you idiot they do.  Fy 2011 Afghanistan 3.9 billion, Pakistan 3 billion, Israel 3 billion, eqypt 1.5 billion, Jordan 675.7 M

 

Blow up Telaviv and the Arabs will start killing each other over who is the best most successfu  l pederast.  "The Arab Mind" I suggest you read it and get a grasp of the Arab psyche..

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:56 | 1836459 Momauguin Joe
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How about annual "aid" going to back to 1948? Any comparison there, goy?

Read the Talmud to get a grasp of the Ashkenazi psyche..

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:49 | 1837055 john39
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and that U.S. money is meant to buy control of those Muslim nations...  for Israel.   too bad for Israel that the U.S. is going broke...   will be interesting too see what happens as Muslim countries shake off zionist controlled dictatorships.  

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 12:34 | 1837281 Calmyourself
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Yes, nice change the timeline thus recovering from your previous statement blowing up in your face..  The "goy" is the key to guys like you simple stereotyping.  By the way I am an American German here since early 1800's.. Reading Numbers now.   Facts matter asshat as does context in 1948 half these bastardized Arab "nations" were still giving the love to goats and young boys in public..   Bacha bazi anyone??

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 16:05 | 1838387 Momauguin Joe
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Wrong again goy. Of the numbers you mentioned, only Israel gets money for nothing. The rest are military occupations or puppet dictatorships paid off to be kosher for Israel.  Israel alone benefits from these expenitures. As you say, facts matter...

 

 

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 14:05 | 1837700 FeralSerf
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"Non-Jews were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world-only to serve the People of Israel," ........"This is his servant...That's why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew."......"why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap; and we will sit? like an effendi (master) and eat."........ "That is why gentiles were created." Israeli (former chief) Rabbi Ovadia Yosef 10/18/2010 (radio speech in Israel)

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:12 | 1836808 BigJim
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The Afgans and Pakistanis are Arabs, are they?

So, according to your figures,

Pakistan's  population  @ 173M =    $17.34 per citizen
Egypt's  population  @ 81M =          $18.51 per citizen
Jordan's  population @ 6M =           $112 per citizen
Afganistan's population  @ 34M  =   $114 per citizen
Israel's  population  @ 7.6M =        $394 per citizen (+ plus all the other bennies they get from us, like intelligence data, munitions, loan guarantees, guaranteed cover in the UN security council for ANY behavior, etc, etc)

The reason we give so much money to Afpak is so we can continue to cruise their skies, bravely incinerating shepherds from 30,000 feet while sipping Starbucks lattes in Denver.

The reason we give so much money to Egypt and Jordan is to keep our satraps in power there, to ensure they do our bidding with regards to the Palestinians (and pretty much anything else in the region)

The reason we give so much money to Israel is because they own our entire political class.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 12:48 | 1837373 Calmyourself
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Never touched on the reasons little jimmy, that being said much of what you say is true.  Pashtuns / Arabs I see very little reason to differentiate; both sharia seeking, pederast promoting, women beating societies stuck in the 7th century...  You see jimmy I don't care about these folks they can continue to live in shit, never inventing, never innovating mired in their shame based cultures. 

 The Israelis on the other hand are much different and that and that alone is reason enough for me to give at least 51% of the support pie to them..  The bankers on WS  are a different breed, psychopaths they and our dysfunctional political class truly deserve our spite.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 19:03 | 1838839 BigJim
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Of course the Israelis are different from the surrounding countries' people. Culturally, they resemble exactly what they are: a bunch of European colonists who have coercively displaced the native populace.

I suppose next you'll be saying Catalonians are entitled to Jordanian land because they're so much more civilized than those dirty Mooooslims.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:57 | 1836464 Carlyle Groupie
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Pay no attention to her. She posts a few pro-Israel comments then goes back to dry humping her Israeli passport. Luckily she's multi-orgasmic and spend more time humping than posting.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:14 | 1836507 lizzy36
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My zada told me never argue with a moron. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

l'chaim

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:47 | 1837039 john39
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but you just did.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:58 | 1836726 redcorona
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Unlikely, generally - like Sontag, et al. - they go cold in their mid twenties. And so their men tend to flee into the arms of one another.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 09:37 | 1836389 Savvy
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And the US is such a peacefull nation?

Iran: 0

USA: El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d'Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004)...

 

(courtesy WRH)

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:09 | 1836498 kridkrid
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Absolutely remarkable.  Yet the average American views America as the Peace Maker, or at worst, a defender of freedom.  It's at the same time scary and awe inspiring the grasp our propaganda has on 300 million.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 11:40 | 1837003 tmosley
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lol, and that is just the last 31 years.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 10:43 | 1836638 CPL
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Arabs =/= Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Orthodox, Atheist, Agnostic, Pagan, etc

Whites =/= Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Orthodox, Atheist, Agnostic, Pagan, etc

Blacks =/= Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Orthodox, Atheist, Agnostic, Pagan, etc

 

Weird how people assume being Jewish is a race and not one of religion. 

 

Example; while I can generally assume one person is a moron, it does not classify all people to be part of the cult of moron.

 

Anycase I'll stop there before it gets all edgy teen drama in here while discussing something as pointless as religion.

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