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Snapshot Update Of US Debt Talks

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Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:48 | 1487256 vote_libertaria...
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The misses and I are going to Las Vegas for vacation this week.


I think I'll bet red....get it...losses....hahahahaha

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:49 | 1487258 ratso
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Can the urge to destroy Obama out weigh the fear of self destructing? 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:05 | 1487306 cossack55
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The US self-destructed in 1913.  Just takes a while for dummies to figure it out.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:08 | 1487317 Sudden Debt
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Doesn't it AMAZE you that this bill isn't passed despite the fact that It's a bill for national security blablabla?

it used to work so well in the past...

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:49 | 1487259 Conrad Murray
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We need a good old fashioned brawl in Congress like the Asians do. Paging Preston Brooks...

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:52 | 1487267 bugs_
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Geither thinks its important to remove the threat of default for at least 18 months.  Now that sounds like he is concerned about America.  Who will be president in 18 months?  Who will be treasury secretary in 18 months?  Timmay, you are a great American <not>

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:23 | 1487369 SheepDog-One
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Yes now all our 'representatives' care at all about is to kick total collapse out past where theyre involved. 

Check Huffington this morning, 'our leaders' seek to create a 'Super Congress' totaly outside any Constitutional or other rules to just do what they see fit. Read it yourself!

Its rope and pitchfork time, well past it actually, and yet americans just sit marveling at the actions of their captors, just disgusting.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:36 | 1487404 Long-John-Silver
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Ropes and Pitchforks would be far too slow. Thousands of politicians and lobbyists in and around D.C. need to be "taken care of".

We could get a good deal if we contract for 100 Guillotine machines which would fill one 50' container from China.

I'm sure there are plenty of people that would volunteer to staff and operate these machines.

It's time to "Party" like it's 1789 in Paris.


Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:23 | 1487565 franzpick
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Barring some financial, trade or commerce collapse, 90% of Americans will continue to believe that everything is fine, or fixable, until they see the other 10% emptying the grocery shelves: seriously, it's going to take anarchy or some form of civil disobediance, by the few, to wake up the many.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:10 | 1487503 baldski
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No, they are watching their favorite "reality show" and trying to figure out how they can get on it!

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:53 | 1487270 Spastica Rex
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Closer to the cliff, higher the relief pop Monday morning?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:46 | 1487422 DoChenRollingBearing
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From CNBC:

Dow futures: -69

S&P futures: -1.70

Nobody seems to care (12:49 PM ET Sunday)

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:55 | 1487275 John Law Lives
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What a sad day that our politicians OPENLY state that the opening of the markets is a self-imposed deadline for action.

P.S.  The new font is lousy.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:56 | 1487277 slow_roast
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Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:06 | 1487313 DoChenRollingBearing
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+0.0000001 tiny!

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:20 | 1487549 Mad Cow
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Use Firefox.

In the menu:
View>Zoom>Zoom In/Out (be sure you have the "Zoom Text Only" option checked.)

Don't like the Font?
In Firefox menu:
Tools>Options>Content Tab>Font & Colors>Choose your font
Then click the "Advanced" button and un-check where it says:
"Allow pages to choose their own font, instead of my selections above."

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 14:21 | 1487795 John Law Lives
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<<<  Don't like the Font?  >>>


<<<  In Firefox menu:
Tools>Options>Content Tab>Font & Colors>Choose your font
Then click the "Advanced" button and un-check where it says:
 "Allow pages to choose their own font, instead of my selections above."  >>>

This worked well.  Thanks. 


Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:01 | 1487290 Hansel
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Yep, please Wall St and make sure to extend the debt ceiling through the next election.  Wall St -> Reelection -> Wall St -> Reelection -> Wall St -> Reelection.  Politicians care about nothing else.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:04 | 1487305 redpill
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Which font is different?  Looks the same to me.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:08 | 1487316 John Law Lives
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The font for every character on the ZH screen looks different to me that it did yesterday.  Perhaps it is the browser I am using (Opera 11.50).

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:11 | 1487327 redpill
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Yep I think it's a browser issue for you, per Sacrilege's post:


"11. Just to clarify, aside from some sidebar stuff, the CSS on the font stayed exactly the same."

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:28 | 1487380 1fortheroad
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The font is different on my chrome browser, almost unreadable. I have never seen this font before on this browser.


Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:15 | 1487341 Sudden Debt
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Clear your cache and temp files and reload.

it worked for me.


Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:52 | 1487444 Cdad
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our politicians OPENLY state that the opening of the markets is a self-imposed deadline for action.

Exactly!  Here we are again, Wall Street with a gun to Timmay's head.  "Bail us out again or Timmay takes a bullet."

I say...pull the figurative trigger.  Moody's and S&P will, and so last second nonsense will ultimately represent disaster anyway.  With the equity market improperly priced by multiples in a forward sense, I don't think anything will "save the day" for them anyway.  The credit markets have been saying so for weeks...even longer when you remove the false bid in T bills resulting from QE2 nonsense.

Here we are again, and again, and again, our Republic threatened by corruption in the banking industry.  This nation will not heal until the criminal syndicate is hit with the fire hose, and capital can once again form upon a stable and legitimate financial foundation.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:59 | 1487285 Duuude
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Brilliant misdirection play by the Banks.






Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:13 | 1487334 tip e. canoe
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absolutely...helps to have those choke chains on nice & tight.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:00 | 1487288 oogs66
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wake me up when they approve it :)  will they haul kids in to drink beer on the white house lawn like after we got osama?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:04 | 1487298 slow_roast
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Where's that idiot who was gloating about having shorted gold on Friday?  He might not be getting the fall he was hoping to see if the GOP isn't even phone conferencing until later in the day. 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:02 | 1487299 slow_roast
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Where's that idiot
who was gloating about having shorted gold on Friday?  He might not be getting the fall he was hoping to see if the GOP isn't even phone conferencing until later in the day. 

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:39 | 1487408 rajat_bhatia
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Here i am fellas, and i'm so excited to go into the 11th hour when there's gonna be a deal. We'll see who'll be the one laughing at the End (of tom trading ;)

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:05 | 1487308 DoChenRollingBearing
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The ONLY thing that would impress me is immediate spending cuts.  Across the board.  Starting right away, and cutting big.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:12 | 1487325 Sudden Debt
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Once your taxes will explode higher to downpay this shit, YOUR SPENDING WILL TAKE A NICE CUT!



to your spendings...


Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:13 | 1487333 Sudden Debt
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Just kidding when I said you would have to take spending cuts...



Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:34 | 1487398 DoChenRollingBearing
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I hear you Sudden re spending cuts at home.  Every time Mrs. Bearing wants to go on a trip, Mr. Bearing buys about that much (very roughly) in gold.  Buying gold is spending and saving at the same time!  What's more fun than that (other than in the bedroom or doing Tai Chi)?

You raised a great point.  EVERYBODY will indeed have less to spend pretty soon.  And the sad things is we did to ourselves.  We get the government we deserve.  Certainly NOT the one I chose...

Is it REALLY the Banksters and the Rothschilds?  I doubt it (could be though)?  I think it is the stupidity of the average voters who believe promises (essentially lies) that their politicians will GIVE them more then they TAKE AWAY.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:45 | 1487655 Sudden Debt
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Yep, there aren't just a few individuals who are doing this big "new world order" crap.

The real problem is that there are to many greedy politicians who try to scim the milk and a lot more. And when the milk ran out they now killed the cow and are selling the meat.

It simply is "to normal" that EVERY politician takes a piece for his own grill.

Why not use new laws against politicians who are crooked? Those who steal or take bribes = terrorisme and act of war against the country = Hanging or execution through a needle. = 1 sentence for every dollar they took!

How many people have you ever heard of that would go prostesting when a politician is cought shitting arround?

How many would answer you "I would do the same"?

To many who believe that stealing from the country is not that bad "because they have enough".

They also think that it's very patriotic to join the army and fight for your country, but none will fight against the real terrorists in the senate or white house or any other government that is.

Same in every EU country (even worse actually), US, Azia...


Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:06 | 1487312 Sambo
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Expect a blood bath in the Asian markets. In the US markets it will be less gory but it will be volatile tomorrow morning. Just remember to wear your seat belts.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:09 | 1487321 Boilermaker
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Horseshit, they'll come up with a 'death snatching' plan roundabout 3:45 p.m. for the 'sake of the country'.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:18 | 1487354 Conrad Murray
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There's some money to be made on that stance - http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=745701

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:08 | 1487318 Boilermaker
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Man, this is some serious kabuki theatre.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:16 | 1487345 vamoose1
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  someone  is  going fill that  can  with  concrete

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:19 | 1487360 SheepDog-One
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No one cares that traitors McConnell and Boehner say theyll just create a new 'Super Congress' out of thin air totaly beyond any constitutional autheority to just do as they see fit, Roman congress of elite traitors now rule over you america. Enjoy the very last few days.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:56 | 1487702 RockyRacoon
Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:29 | 1487382 bayoutrader
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Congress and the "government" got us into this mess and we expect them to get us out of it. Get back to me after the 2012 elections and like any good soap opera, we'll be just where we left off....that is if we are stll able to access the internet.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:32 | 1487388 Cynical Centaur
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I'm glad that i'm not the only one who procrastinates.


Tyler you are going to have a busy week ahead...

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:32 | 1487389 dp226
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"White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley tells NBC's "Meet the Press" that any short-term deal to raise the debt limit would harm the economy because financial markets and business leaders would not have the certainty they need to make investment decisions"


Hurt the economy maybe, Hurt their chances of re-election (R&D) definately

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:33 | 1487395 SuperRay
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Not a word about cuts in military or defense spending.  Guess we know who the puppetmasters are.


btw, don't like this new format at all. too compartmentalized, like the consciousness of the average american...

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:49 | 1487425 warchopper
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I work for the government and I received an email on Thursday asking how much money I could spend by the end of the day. All I can think is wow, gotta love Amerika. Here we are in the middle of "debt crisis" and I'm being asked how much money I can spend by close of business. As sad as it is, right now, everyoneis just waiting for money to start flowing so we can spend it.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:47 | 1487429 Bobbyrib
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"U.S. House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner tells Fox News Sunday that House Republicans are prepared to push through their own deficit reduction package if congressional leaders fail to produce a bipartisan plan by Sunday afternoon."


They can call it "Cut, Cap, and Balance." It won't make it a difference if it is any more fair, it will never pass.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 13:50 | 1487434 Dr Hackenbush
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I really admire the open transparency of this admin and especially that of Tim Geithner.  "it's important to remove the threat of default for at least the next 18 months"  

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