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Solargate Meets Enron: Solyndra CEO And CFO To Plead The Fifth
And now the political rags will really tear the American Jobs Act, ARRA and the administration, apart, because the Venn diagrams of Enron and Watergate just crossed and the point of intersection is called Solyndra. According to Reuters: "Solyndra LLC's chief executive and chief financial officer will invoke their Fifth Amendment rights and decline to answer any questions put to them at a Congressional hearing on Friday, according to letters from their attorneys obtained by Reuters." But, but, what do they have to hide? And how many times in the past has pleading the fifth not led to a prison sentence for someone? And, implicitly, and potentially, the commencement of impeachment hearings?
From Reuters:
In the letters sent to the House Energy and Commerce Committee's Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, attorneys for Solyndra CEO Brian Harrison and CFO W. G. Stover said they advised their clients not to provide testimony during the hearings.
The bankrupt company's $535 million federal loan guarantee is being investigated by the House Energy and Commerce Committee.
Harrison is represented by Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe and Stover is represented by Keker & Van Nest.
Solyndra's offices were raided by the FBI two days after the company filed for bankruptcy, although the FBI did not say what prompted the raid.
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You chocolate eatin' bastard! You beat me to it!
one, two, three, four...FIF!
WTF, TD?
You CANNOT be impeached for pleading the 5th, nor can you be convicted of anything as a result.
But people can be convicted of whatever it was that they took the 5th to avoid testifying about. And by taking the 5th you are basically admitting that you may have been involved in some sort of criminal behavior.
Blood in the water...
damn moron, it aint soly ceo being impeached!
so trav, what grade where you in in 2007?
I thought This bunch was all in favor of sunlight? Guess not, after all.
Makin' it simple for ya'll: Solyndra was a laundry, not primarily a solar cell co. Obama '08 contributors and bundlers "invested" in this racket, and got back large multiples from their real investment, Obama, by way of the $.5 billion Zero sent to the laundry. Now we can sit back and watch the the Stupid Party fumble the ball again, like they did with the debt ceiling, Fast and Furious, and all else. I hear Boner's getting primary'd. That's nice.
too bad they won't talk, Jon Stewart could have used them in another great clip on Solyndra
Just as Bruce warned
Is that the Bernank? Are they counterfeit C-notes in his hand?
Counterfeits cost too much to produce, he used the real thing
LOL!!
If it was the Bernank. the money would be coming out of the pocket. It would not be going in.
Mikla bitchez!!!
You need to post more.
Accounting Fraud Bitchez!
GS looks sick
More fraudsters ... just great.
About time some fat cheaters go to jail!
And this is just a fraction of the corruption ongoing at state and federal levels. The unlimited creation of debt to line the pockets of the connected while not only slapping the average American in the face but taking their freedoms along the way.
That whole "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" thing was getting old anyway. After 200+ years it's maybe time again for some good 'ol tyranny, King George-style. People seem to be thinking that way, if you follow things.
Yup, this stuff has got to go : nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself
Like, collateral damage or something.
The fifth amendment states "...nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself..."
I thought it was just a hearing? By that logic, anything they say would be evidence of criminal activity, therefore, they can't talk at all.
Handcuffs, please.
Perhaps there will be a civil case. Then they would be required to testify. Anyone have a fiduciary interest?
That doesn't work, either. As long as there is a chance of future prosecution, the Fifth applies in a civl action, too. Example: OJ. Once he had been found not guilty in the criminal matter he could no longer take the firth in the subsequent civil case.
Where if the civil case come before the criminal case?
I bet they will settle real fast. Easy money for anyone with even a whiff of damages
May be. But my legal friends tell my that if you don't answer in a civil case, then the jury (or judge) can assume the worst possible thing for your answer.
if congress has commanded them to appear, then legally it is not just a voluntary matter
Their appearance and statements are compelled-->they must show and respond. Taking the Fifth is acceptable. Of course, it rather focuses the investigations and prosecutors on areas to dig.
- Ned
{I'm really scratching my head on Roger Clemens' performance under these circumstances}
[Ed. After Ollie North's public testimony, everyone who testifies has been deposed before going public (go Blue). Ditto the perjury comment]
This is BULLISH!
The Fifth worked for Iran-Contra...
That's what I thought.
I choose to invoke my 5th amendment righs for fear of being knocked off by an associate of Rahm.
And Gunwalker, Fast and Furious, Lightstream, and ObamaCare waivers to political friends...
Most ethical administration evarrrr.
You forgot New Black Panthers
He was trying to set up a few more "gifts" as well.
Section 251 of his "Let Them Eat Peas Bill" has something called Project Rebuild. Which is nothing but even more grants to his crony's & his little "acorns" who have already blown through the last multiple billions on purchasing Chryslers & wagyu beef.
The rape continues.
Edit: And blood & gore up to the elbows...
“I would be remiss if I didn’t mention, as the Attorney General in Mexico is so concerned, she’s made the point that at least 200 Mexicans have been killed with these weapons and probably countless more,” Issa said."
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/09/20/attorney_general_in_mexico_200_murders_result_of_operation_fast_and_furious
I've been halfway wondering if Solyndra isn't getting the coverage it has because it lets the press avoid talking about gunwalker/fast and furious. It doesn't take that much more digging to connect the executive branch deeply to gunwalker, and once that happens you have the White House implicitly connected to the murder of law enforcement officers. I'd think they'd happily take being called corrupt over being proven murderers.
I think OBummer could get another Photo Op out of this case.
Go into the empty factory and blame the Repubs. LOL
Bush did it by proxy. bwahhhahhahh.
Did you here about the $16 muffins and the $8.50 coffees....at the DOJ.......but no room to cut budjets...no nothing...
Eric "Place" Holder is on this mfer
Holder's accomplishments as AG:
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OT: Sacrilige--new feature request. SilverIsKing has demonstrated definitive business need for negative numbers in the enumerated list.
- Ned
{and seriously, all y'all have done a fine job with the transition to the new format}
You can soooooooo replace Holder with Obammi
Obammi's accomplishments as prez:
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Those communists drink and eat much better than me and other serfs. Makes me think of my kids wearing designer jeans while I, the bill payer, wore rags.
Is anyone here surprised. Has anything changed in the last 3 years. But now if Barry is involved. Well, then you have my attention.
Miners acting nicely today.
Newmont Mining must have had a huge short squeeze or something. Man, I wish I still had that stock.
silly me, i thought that venn diagram was a sketch of what the reamed out butts of us citizens are going to look like very soon.
A) left cheek
B) right cheek
"solyndra" must be kenyan for pecker.
Well, at least they've gotten competent legal advice.
Never, ever, EVER talk to the feds about anything. Because if you weren't in trouble before, you will be afterwards. Isn't that right, Mr. Bankfiend?
Mr. Bankfiend would take the sixth amendment, you know, "I refuse to answer the following question on the grounds it may tend to eliminate me".
Death by laughter. Protect yourself and your loved ones from the coming scourge.
I prefer the "pretend you don't understand English" defense, ala Sammy Sosa, to the "pleading the 5th" defense.
or Billy "bob" Clinton asking the question of the Congressional hearing on his impeachment, " what is your definition of sex"? (as if having your fuckstick down Monica's throat isn't sex:)
Not to mention his cigar sticking up her ass. Literally, blowing smoke....
there's always the indignant rafael palmeiro finger wag
strap them all to solar panels...in Texas.
No, in the Mojave desert. They're aiming to cover wide swaths with solar panels - endangered desert tortoises, fringed toed lizard and milk vetch be damned.
A few energy executive and politicians won't be noticed and besides, they'll feed the coyotes.
Milk Vetch - thought it was poisonous...
According to Wikipedia, some plants that get called milk-vetch include locoweed, which might be what you're thinking. True milk vetch is something different, and many types appear to be useful medicinally. I didn't know that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astragalus#Toxicology if you're interested.
So far as I'm concerned, the Mojave is a big place. A bunch of heavily subsidized solar panels added to the heavily subsidized wind farms won't change a lot but it's been interesting to watch the land and species purists battle it out with the renewable energy types.
And ultimately, we'll hear it is:
Racism,
Bushes fault,
The economy.
(did i miss anything?)
Are you suggesting that Obama will not take full responsibility for using the government to try to effect markets, recognize it is a flaw in policy and philosophy and lead us in a new direction to proserity? <sarcastic smile>
You must not have been paying attention sinc ehti sbegan to break. The Dems' first response was "Bush dealt with Solyndra, too!" They failed, of course, to mention that the Bush Admin. rejected the loan. Expect more of the same.
damn no you didn't i was thinking the same about using this vid...lol
This is the lawyer's first card played in a high-stakes poker game. The issue now becomes, will the investigators offer immunity in exchange for testimony? And if so, to whom?
Solyndra Bankruptcy is BULLISH!
Should have been a prerequisite for the loan.
NO PLEADING THE FIFTH.
Fifth is the right play. Even if you are innocent, any smart defense lawyer is going to tell you, do not talk to the police or to the government. Do not give a statement under oath.
Think the government cares if you are innocent? Bullshit. All they care about is getting you to talk, talk, talk. Then if they think you were untruthful about anything at all -- even something having nothing to do with the investigation -- they'll threaten to prosecute you under 1001, False Statements Act. Threaten you with prosecution and jail unless you now "cooperate."
This shit happens every single day. Ask Martha Stewart. Most sheeple think Stewart was convicted of insider trading. Bzzzt. It was 1001, misstatements to investigators and obstructing justice. So it wasn't the underlying crime, it was what she told investigators that got her nailed -- and Stewart gave a statement under oath with her lawyer present. Still got tagged.
If they ever drag me in for questioning on anything, I don't give a fuck what the public, media, or blogs think. I'm not talking, period.
water board the bastards..................
Amen, brother. As far as I can tell by the examples we're given (Scooter, Martha, Roger, Barry, etc.) NEVER answer any question from the Feds. Shut up, and Lawyer up. (That's on my business card.)
It does seem to be the right play but it ratchets up pressure on the administration (and I got the popcorn stocked). Next stop the DOE? And who do you think will get to ask the "what did the President know and when did he know it" question? I vote Darrell Issa.
Exactly, never say a word to the pigs. You have absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose.
Plead the 5th, avoid mentioning Obama in testimony, receive a presidential pardon on January 19, 2013.
The FBI was there to destroy evidence and the fifth is just a stall tactic
The bigger scandal is Light Squared...
(yawn)
*Always* take the fifth.
Never consent to searches.
Would you prefer they babble endlessly to the police? Talk too much?
Agree.
Shut Up, then Lawyer Up.
Naw, do the honorable thing like the Japanese do. Stick a large, sharp knife in your intestines and pull up and to the right.
Tyler, you made it move
Don't Talk to Cops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
Allow me to volunteer some insider information re: Solyndra CEO's taking 5th on damning info: they took taxpayer money knowing full well that, given their real projections and all financial and technical data, there was no possible way that they would ever operate a viable and profitable corporation; and they did this with the cooperation of Washington knowing full well this was the case. Damning on ALL sides of the transaction.
It's that simple folks.
Well, at least it wasn't a total loss. The president did get a nice photo-op for the taxpayer's $535M.
Does this mean my solar panels for the crack house will not be arriving this week?
QE is a helluva drug, bitch.
$535 million handed to you has known to cause "sticky fingers" now and again, every now and then, occassionally, once in a while, ah, shit - ALL THE GODDAMN TIME.....
We find the defendants guilty as presumed your Honor, solely on the basis of that's whazzz happens.......
Read Family of Secrets. Old man "Poppy Bush" had his hands in Watergate up to his elbows. Typical chickenshit backstabbing bastard that he is/was. First JFK and then RMN. Two assassinations of a different nature. Same motivation.
This is going to be more fun than Watergate, and that was a LOT of fun. The only difference is that everybody knew that Nixon was an evil asshole from way back, whereas Obama had an awful lot of people fooled, for a while. I actually wanted to believe - and that allowed me to be fooled, once. I'm old enough to have known better, and should have known better, but Jesus Christ, the alternative was a senile old hack and a gloss-lipped puta.
LOL! 'senile old hack and a gloss-lipped puta'. Your being awful kind sir.
I'm just an old softy. Peace and love brother.
Hmm, your avatar looks vaguely familiar... (You handsome devil!)
No - the alternative was Ron Paul.
As long as you keep buying into this lesser of two evils crap, you will continue to wind up with crooks running the show.
+1776! Two-party dictatorships are not a choice.
Today the main reason to take the fifth is to avoid a perjury trap. How many of the more recent political scandals have ultimately led to perjury when they couldn't come up with anything else?
How can you impeach a putative POTUS? Since there are no records of his past (Executive order #13489 signed less than 24 hrs. in office) and the birth record is forged (now by 12 experts with signed affadvits) fraudulent SS#, can't clear E-Verify as a legal citizen, falsified DNC election forms, the liar-in-chief has been perjured (taking the oath falsely) since the election and the corrupt CONgress keeps allowing it. WHat ever happened to the Constitution?
Is it Elite law by fiat? I can't serf. Serfing is against my monetary strategy!
Solyndra = trumped up shit to throw at Obama.
Rezko pt 2.
DOE invests in new tech all the time. Some of it fails. Big whup.
You sound like a typical OhBummer voter, so very casual with other people's money. Now, if you'd invested half of your own $150 in lifetime savings and it vanished, I'm sure the wailing and gnashing of teeth would be a sight to behold.
Right. If only we had elected McCain and Mama Grizzly shit would be just peachy and the DOE wouldn't be involved in energy R&D and commercialization.
Bunch of freeper doofuses here sitting in their mobile homes while their mail order philipino brides do the dishes.
What Anony said + what is wrong with mobile homes and mail order philipino brides ? Typical Liberal looks in the mirror and doesn't see the prejudiced bastard he is.....
Have you even read any of the information now avaiable concerning Solyndra? If you had you would not be reacting in a knee jerk fashion. The DOE was pressured by the WH to bypass their own rules on when to spend tax payer dollars on this type of plant. More importantly the taxpayer dollars were not protected. These kind of investments do fail. There is risk. The tax payers investment should never be last in line when bankruptucy occurs.
As a result of Barrack OBama's direct involvement his contributers will see get money out of Solyndra before the tax payer. Barrack Obama has stolen from women and children so as to funnel tax payer money to his buddies.
1/2 of billion dollars.... whoops it gone.... chicago style... you can take the scum out of the chicago machine but you can never take the Frank Marshal Davis out of B. Hussein Obama whose your daddy barracky?
What other fairy tales do you believe?
You might be the only one on the planet who thinks there is no there there.
The Bamster is corrupt, nothing was said about McCain being any better, and Solydra was yet another way to take your money and then have you happily give away blow jobs to the thieves, you twit.
As far as Obama goes... You CANNOT IMPEACH a USURPER!!!! A usurper must be removed and he would be striken from the office as if that plant to further run this country into the ground did not exist. All that userper signed would be negated. If they won't stop robosigning, do you honestly think the right thing will be done here too? Our constitution is to protect us from our government and it needs to be followed. This just pisses me off!!!
I'm with you...... Our constitution is under attack. The latest jobs bill has the following......
Buried deep, deep on page 133 of the bill, it states:
SEC. 376. FEDERAL AND STATE IMMUNITY. (a) Abrogation of State Immunity- A State shall not be immune under the 11th Amendment to the Constitution from a suit brought in a Federal court of competent jurisdiction for a violation of this Act.
States protection under 11 Amendment reads.....
The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.
OMG -- Obama Must Go!
I pray this blows wide open like Watergate. Oh please oh please. Then he will have to do some real lying.
RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"......AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND,,,it's gone!!!"
I thought they got raided since they might of had the leaked iphone5 ?? bankruptcy fraud doesn't mean anything anymore
I bet they don't want to tell us what their guitars are made of!
Ahhh, the false equivalency of it all. Didn't know Enron received Gov money? I guess we need to go back a few years (like hundreds) to understand the logic. I suggest the following mental excersize: Enron was based in Texas, Bush was based in Texas, therefore Bush is a witch. Burn him. Watch'a think?