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"Sold To You": European Banks Quietly Dumping €300 Billion In Italian Debt

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Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:41 | 1870493 GeneMarchbanks
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Poor Fink.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:44 | 1870505 Ahmeexnal
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We can only hope and pray that the iTalians man up and dump the euro.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:48 | 1870522 Fiat Currency
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There will be 2 Euros ... one for the Europeans & one for the Europeons.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:55 | 1870546 redpill
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Last one out has to peel the garlic

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 15:20 | 1870627 espirit
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Got collateral? Garlic won't do.

Who's going to buy uncollateralized sovereign debt? Buwaahaahaa.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 17:42 | 1871008 trav7777
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All the greaseball euro countries got to use the euro to give them germany's rate for a decade, so they did what any deadbeat with someone else's credit card would...they maxed that shit out.  And now, we're all stunned that fucking italy, who CHEATED to get into the EU in the first place, is still the deadbeat they always were?  I mean with the lira at wtf was it 1000:1 to good currencies? 

The northerners actually believed those greasy dagos would follow the same rules?  WTF?  Have white people really become that mindfucked?

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 23:25 | 1871559 greyghost
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not an hour earlier the fox business channel had some fuck from wells fargo investments on touting the time is right to invest in european goverment debt. i thought at the time that wells fargo must have a boat load of shit to unload......no crime here...move along

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 15:16 | 1870619 aleph0
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Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:49 | 1870523 Chris Jusset
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"With the ECB providing a bid for Italian bonds that might not otherwise exist, board members at some of Europe’s largest bank say now is the time to accelerate disposals."

Such a nifty symbiotic relationship: the ECB sucks up the turds and shit that the banks dispose of.  The ECB is not only a toilet for the banks, but a rectal vacuum cleaner as well.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:56 | 1870550 GeneMarchbanks
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Nifty, Chris, the turds and shit.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 15:08 | 1870591 Roy T
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Sounds like the Fed's purchases of MBS.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 16:32 | 1870807 Chris Jusset
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Indeed!  So what does that make Bernanke?

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 15:40 | 1870672 chubbar
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OT, Been out of the loop all day, did anyone post this little tidbit yet?



This looks interesting. Especially for the customers who have(had) accounts with MF Global. Hahahaha

Did MF Global Use $80 Million in Customers' Gold & Silver COMEX Warehouse Receipts as Collateral for a $300 M Short Term Loan?

Yesterday we advised readers that 1.42 million ounces of registered silver, and 16,645 ounces of registered gold are not currently available for delivery per the CME, due to the MF Global bankruptcy.

This is roughly $50 million worth of silver, and $30 million worth of gold- or $80 million total.
So the question needs to be asked- why are $80 million in gold and silver unavailable for delivery? Did it vaporize overnight?
Forbes today has released an article that may shed some light into WHY $80 million worth of registered gold and silver are currently unavailable- because the warehouse receipts of MF's clients were stolen by company execs and used as collateral for a short term $400 Million loan obtained in an attempt to bridge the failing company until a buy-out could be arranged. When the news of the loan and missing customer assets became public, the lender instantly liquidated the illegally pledged assets- [/b]which apparently included $80 million in registered gold and silver.

Still wondering why The Doc advocates taking PHYSICAL DELIVERY of gold and silver and holding in your own possession?

Now the question remains- WHO lent MF Global $300-$400 Million against $700 million of customer assets a week ago Thursday?

Why do I believe MF Global executives transferred customer assets not cash to “house” accounts? Because missing cash would be noticed immediately. Their clients were still trading and clearing and cash was required to settle. Securities such as U.S. Treasury Bills, blue-chip equities such as CME Group stock held by many exchange members, and physical assets such as gold, warehouse receipts, and other certificates of title are less active. They would not be missed Thursday through Monday.

What did MF Global do once these assets were moved to a “house” account? I believe they pledged the customer assets as collateral for a short term loan.
A privately arranged line of credit, secured by a basket of assets discounted by up to 50% due to the risk of default and the firm’s desperation, could be unwound as soon as a deal to sell the firm was struck. All the assets could go back into the customer accounts and no one would be the wiser. "............

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 15:56 | 1870708 Ahmeexnal
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was it...Douche Bank???

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:41 | 1870494 Careless Whisper
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Fri, 11/11/2011 - 15:02 | 1870572 lincolnsteffens
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Funny ++ Who's your daddy! good one

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:43 | 1870501 Biggvs
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In other words, the ECB will more or less buy the Italian bonds from the banks.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:58 | 1870559 walküre
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Fantastic. It's a bailout for the banks. ECB is 2 years behind the curve ball.

Don't ask where the money comes from, just ask what you can do with the money.

I get it.

Risk On. Fire away. Leverage yourself to the max and buy and hold for at least the next 12 months.

Right? Right?

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 15:42 | 1870669 DormRoom
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So let me get this straight.  European banks are offloading to the ECB (dumb money), which is backstopped by taxpayers.  So capital (plutocracy) has once again socialized risk, and privatized profits.






Fri, 11/11/2011 - 15:59 | 1870722 SheepDog-One
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Which also means theyre clear of any danger of losses so free to drop the crap out of the markets again soon as theyre done.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 16:06 | 1870734 MachoMan
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Given the FED's propensity to engage in swaps, I'd say you're talking about american taxpayers...

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 16:10 | 1870741 walküre
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Yes, exactly.

OWS needs to change their strategy.

Beat THEM at their own game instead of uncovering thruth that nobody cares about.

Think about it. For example, get millions of Americans to max out every credit card, every loan, hoard cash and gold and hide it.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 17:22 | 1870953 Strider52
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Since most of us agree that Wall Street is full of nothing but crooks, I suggest that instead of occupying it, we build a prison wall around it. Nobody gets out unless yu can prove that you're NOT one of the bad guys.



Fri, 11/11/2011 - 19:39 | 1871247 XitSam
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Yeah! And then Air Force One can crash there and the government can send in Snake "Call me Snake" Plissken to get him out.

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 09:38 | 1871949 fajensen
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Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:46 | 1870510 Manthong
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"a hope that credit default swaps would protect them against heavy losses"

If you understand this disconnect, you understand the complete lie that is the market today.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:46 | 1870512 Ruffcut
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Quietly selling huh? Lying sacks of shit need the piss kicked out em.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:46 | 1870514 Racer
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So yet another backhanded bailout for banksters

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:51 | 1870530 Raskolnikoff
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that's funny, Cramer was on the tube this morning talking about how he was buying some Italian bonds, what a coincidence!

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:52 | 1870535 ItsDanger
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ECB will buy the bonds, roll it over, and repeat.  Only when the cash flow stops from the stronger nations will this end.  Will China, or other countries step in at that pt and purchase assets?  These clowns are destroying future generations because no one has the courage to lead.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:53 | 1870537 The trend is yo...
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When the mere survival is at stake for the banksters, THEY WILL PRINT...The ECB will backstop the Italian Bonds as well as France when it gets to them.  The Sharade must go on

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:53 | 1870538 ZeroPoint
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Both the ECB and the Federal Reserve need to be flushed down the toilet and people every where need to say "never again".



Fri, 11/11/2011 - 15:06 | 1870586 Snidley Whipsnae
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The bloated balance sheets of all central banks, including the Fed, will be dumped into the IMF in return for SDRs.

Like this...

worthless crap from central bank balance sheets traded to IMF for worthless crap SDRs.

SDR = just another piece of worthless paper

When IMF balance sheet gets so bloated that no one will accept SDRs then a Martian Central Bank will be called on to trade REITS on Mars for whatever crap exists on the IMF balance sheet... and some idiots will be writing CDS on the Martian REITS... Next up Venus, Jupiter, the fucking moon, whatever...


Sat, 11/12/2011 - 09:53 | 1871957 fajensen
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Haha: Its an idea for a game!

A network of nodes interconnected with pipes all leading to bigger, more fortified, nodes with the central bank in the middle. The nodes suck up ressources and spill toxic waste in return. The objective is to use a fighter plane to kill regional nodes before their poison kills the players ressource accumulation (ressources are gathered from unpoisoned land and used for upgrades), thereby cutting the central feed to to lower nodes, causing them to die too, until enogh regional defenses are down to take on the main node(s).

There is a time limit: Killing regional nodes causes toxic sludge to migrate up the pibelines towards the center nodes. Not killing nodes causes the sludge to poison your ressources. When enough sludge has accumultated in a node, it will detonate in a nuclear explosion that will devastate the local landscape and kill the player if he is close. The central bank node will blow half the planet away - if it blows up before it is destroyed by the player.

Fast and frenetic gameplay. Wee.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:55 | 1870539 Mercury
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    "Sold To You"

    BLK: "Done."

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:58 | 1870560 GeneMarchbanks
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Fundamentals... (snicker)

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:56 | 1870551 Socrate
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Say what? It looks like European banks are dumping their PIIGS bonds directly in ECB's hands. It is all as planned under the table during the October 26th euroheadz meeting. And all of this - to prevent writedowns to happent and to make moral hazard less possible the way that PIIS wanted it to be (eg. asking for write downs just like Greece).

In other words, it looks like all the toxic bonds will be only in ECB's hands and it is somewhat funny. They are the only one who deserve these zero-cost bonds.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:57 | 1870555 XtraBullish
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Glad to have bought the crash in September and am XtraBullish. ZeroHedge continues to provide the perfect offset to CNBC bullshit and for that I am grateful. However, I am most certainly bullish for a move into the Spring and you know what? We haven't seen new highs in years despite record money-printing. I see 1,600 on the S&P by Summer 2012. That's the good news. The bad news is that it will cost $5.00 for a loaf of bread.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 15:02 | 1870571 jomama
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not sure where you live, but it already costs 5 bucks here in the ca. bay area.

that is, for whole bread, not the HFCS/bleached wheat garbage bread.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 16:06 | 1870732 SheepDog-One
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$5.50 a loaf for anything worth eating here, and the garbage bread is $3.
Rock on bankrupt US. Hey stocks are up, nothing to see here!

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 19:47 | 1871260 XitSam
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Bread machine. My Zojirushi is nice.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 14:10 | 1876134 Jena
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Me too.  Added plus:  You control what goes in it and more importantly, what doesn't.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 15:51 | 1870695 Hohum
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You may be right; you may be wrong.  However, the junkers don't want to look at correlations.  Sure equities up.  But, as usual, oil up, dollar down, gold/silver up.



Fri, 11/11/2011 - 16:04 | 1870730 SheepDog-One
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XtraBullshit with the dollar drop and oil up, youre not even keeping even with your 'bullish' stance on stocks....losing.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 17:16 | 1870937 Poetic injustice
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RobotTrader, please use your handle to avoid misunderstandings.

That was addressed to handle XtraBullish.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:58 | 1870557 kito
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lets all give thanks to blackrock!!!! if it wasnt for them, the fed would be forced to buy this crap

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:58 | 1870558 fonzanoon
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the federal reserve owns all our toxic shit. Seems to be working well enough here.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 15:05 | 1870581 walküre
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It sure seems that way. All logic has been abandoned though. Debt that keeps growing and can never be repaid.

Growing debt that is serviced by reduced revenues and nobody wonders just how it's done.

OWS is on the wrong path.

There's only one way to get to these fuckers and it's by beating them in their own game.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 14:59 | 1870562 RobotTrader
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FSLR is my proxy for Europe debt

If it makes a sharp reversal, bears need to watch out.

Tons of hedge funds are short this stock as an artificial hedge against Euro sov debt.

46% of the shares floated are now short.


Fri, 11/11/2011 - 15:03 | 1870575 Careless Whisper
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46% of the shares floated are now short.

Goldman upgrade imminent. Short squeeze heaven.


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