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Some Fun With Analogies, Rhyming History And Repeating Futures
We round out the evening with this simple SAT-type exercise:
Oct 3, 2008: SPX=1099.23; VIX=45.14 is to Oct 3, 2011: SPX=1099.23; VIX=45.45
as
Oct. 10, 2008: SPX=899.22; VIX = 69.95 is to ....
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Black Thursday, bitchez.
Shit Winds are a coming...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4iDurCE3Yk&feature=related
Oct. 10, 2008: SPX=899.22; VIX = 69.95 is to...
Oct. 10, 2011: SPX=36,000
am i right tyler?
OCT. 3, 2008: DJIA= 10,325.38
OCT. 3, 2011: DJIA= 10,655.30
OCT. 10, 2008: DJIA= 8,451.19 = -18%
OCT. 10, 2011: DJIA= 8,721.29? = -18%
Tyler, Fuck the SAT test.
The only formula anyone needs to memorize is:
Market data + Asset Prices + Fed Purchases + European Debt Crisis + Political and Financial theater = Bullshit.
Simple equation = simple theft.
Dow Jones Industrial Average
Tuesday, September 11, 2001
Closing Price: 9,605.51
Friday, September 11, 2009
Closing Price: 9,605.41
I shat bricks.
Enjoy October. All stops will be pulled out to boost equities, starting twelve months pre-election. This is just a downturn so we have someyhing we can be "saved" from. Hedge your hedges. Hedge your hedges of hedges. Ad infinitum.
I have literal hedges in the front yard of my house. They protect me from hooligans and rapscallions. Also 30 yr fixed no recourse at 4.125% bitchez!!!
Srry. Bdrunk
Srry. Bdrunk
But the directions were different.
Oct. 10, 2011: SPX=799.22; VIX = 79.92, forever to be known as the Columbus Day Massacre, as I am on record of predicting months ago.
I'm also predicting The Bernank will announce QE3 the following day in order to stem the continued stock market loses.
In other words, if you're going to panic, panic first.
OCT. 3, 2008: DJIA= 10,325.38
OCT. 3, 2011: DJIA= 10,655.30
OCT. 10, 2008: DJIA= 8,451.19 = -18%
OCT. 10, 2011: NYSE removed from the internet by a massive DDoS
I win!wrong,
Oct. 10, 2008: SPX=899.22; VIX = 69.95 :: Oct. 10, 2011: SPX=666; VIX = 666
If anonymous successfully hacks NYSE and spreads Stuxnet into high frequency colos into clusterfuckups.
VIX = 666? But I thought we eliminated volatility through Keynesian-Stalinist central planning and currency management???
Oh, sorry. Honestly didn't see you there, bud,
TYLER DURDEN FOR PRESIDENT
2012 :) :)
I would LOVE to see the "fictional" Tyler Durden Campaign Platform! How would Tyler manage the coming wipeout and recovery as President if he had a cooperative Congress. How would the US weather the storm in his administration? Tyler please consider writing this. I know you shy from politics and stick with uncovering lies, cronyism, deceipt etc...but let's just say you were going to deliver some hope and some change we could believe in...what would it be?
Sorry. There is no hope and change
"as
Oct. 10, 2008: SPX=899.22; VIX = 69.95 is to ...."
Not gonna happen. They never make things this obvious.
It happened in Oct 07 too.
What's obvious this week ???
No Robo this Week !!!
FYI Transgender BDSM convention SF. You asked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVkR7MsfSJY , may I add
Where is the original Rusty?
Tyler, can you take this test for me? Its too difficult. I'll pay you a thousand bernanke bucks!
Math is my strong point. For 500 bernankes I'll get back to you in 7 days with the exact answer. Lots of equations to analyze.
No no, Don't worry, everything is fine.
-Minitrue
put yer DOW 10k hats on ladies....and your DOW assless chaps....we're going in
Ruh-Roh!
Nope, October 10 will be a Black Monday.
my head hurts fuck you tyler I am buying platinum, spam, and bullets. In that order.
Why platinum? It is money, but is rarely recognized as such. You are more likely to lose out with falling industrial demand.
Platinum like Gold is brought and kept due to TRADITION
/sarc
then give me 100 kilos of palladium. You just gave me a reason to buy more.
Imho - it will never drop too far from gold, so gold will pull it along. And you have greater upside if it returns to a more 'normal' spread.
You can't eat bullets.
Eat, yes
Digest, no
Chuck Norris can.
But your enemies can . . .
No I can't.
But I can eat the tasty little creatures the bullets drop for me.
I can also eat the food that others will trade me for a few of my precious, really precious, little metals
If cracks me up how many people believe that even if things turn to shit, they will still be marching down to Wally World to buy some Chinese processed Mott's Apple Juice.
Good luck with that.
Agreed been saying this for years. 22LR will be the new currency if things get as bad as what we fear. Hope you got a squirrel gun in your arsenal with plenty of ammo because something tells me you will need it soon.
I have 3 squirrels who frequent my backyard and wreck havoac on the trees. I'm going to enjoy the stew, little bitchez.
or spam
Buggers if you cannot eat bullets eat Ipads.. They are tasty too...
Are you sayin' John Wayne was wrong, pilgrim?
Ya better not be sayin' John Wayne was wrong 'cause it'll getcha thrown off ah the wagon train out here in the middle hf injun country and I'll betcha woodn't like that too much.
But if worst comes to worst and ya' had a choice betewwn John Wayne's bullets and Hilary's cooch, leas ya' can eat the bullets.
Knukles.. I gave you an up vote to say you are welcome and because a young John Wayne was my hero in my youth.
Since we both appreciate humor, you may find this to your liking: What does tight-rope walking and receiving oral sex
from Whoopi Goldberg have in common? Answer: Either way you don't want to look down.
"John Wayne's a fag!... That's right you boys. I installed two-way mirrors at his pad in Brentwood and he came to the door in a dress."
You can only eat one bullet. No seconds.
You CAN'T even buy platinum. I'm not able to find ANY dealers who can fill an order.
Tulving has some Aussie Platypus platinums.
No kidding. I asked a nearby coin dealer and he looked at me as if I asked for polonium.
That's cool, can I play?
i see...
PAIN..
Neat-o!
S&P 900s by Wednesday, me thinks.
I'll go with sub-900 in 2 weeks if it plays out the same.
LOL!! Priceless....."But this time it's different"...LOL!!
And down she goes like a $5 hooker on buy one get one night
spa...
im going to get some mileage out of that one...
OMG LMAO
$5 dollars? I don't think so. I'll get it next year for $3
Deflation, bitch!
Your handle is a devo inspired?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKNulrmgwBE
<Your handle is a devo inspired?>
Excellent guess, but no.
The Great Mutatto is a hideous looking man-beast from the X-files. The local teenagers coax him out of the bayou by placing a PBJ on the designated cypress stump. When he shows up at dusk, to collect the PBJ, the teenagers start yelling...
"LOOK! IT'S THE GREAT MUTATTO!!"
Oct. 10, 2011: SPX=899.23; VIX = 70.25
I got 1400 on my SATs.
sorry but Ben Bernank got 1590 on his SATs way back prior to recentering bs. He was also a spelling bee champion before the days of spellcheckers.
of course his father who was a pharmicist gave him some experimental mind-boosting drugs.
So he is smarter than a 5th grader?
I was saying....when 99.9 percentile genius has no clue what to do except to print money, we are truely screwed.
But we do have spellcheckers so at least everyone can spell now.
if that's the case, why did you write "truely" instead of "truly"?
</smirk>
Hmmm, I come up with 70.43. So I must be close to genius level.
holy crap and holy shit!
Little Numbers. Meaning the same thinking that got us into this mess is not the same thing that is going to get us out of this. Eienstien said that the definition of insanity is the US tax code, yet the MSM treats Ron Paul and Herman Cain like doddering old fools.
Little Boxes Malvina Reynolds probably knew the bernake in the old perfect SAT days http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_2lGkEU4Xs
Herman Cain says that Ron Paul is a cranky old man. He also says that a Fed audit isn't necessary because there's nothing of interest to be discovered.
And they had a 25 year old trader on bloomberg asia last night who correctly pointed out that if the USA sold the max (fantasy) estimate of spicie in fort knox at (todays) spot it would not cover the vig on the US debt for more than six months.
I am all for private citizens using gold to improve thier lot in life in a free market. But if that market is going to exist, you gotta baby step away from the central planners, which is thier precious tax code. Timmay messes up his taxes. Bernake does not.
you are a wise fool indeed.
James Steel, an analyst at HSBC Securities USA Inc. I think this is who you are talking about:
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/76524540/
And here is a related video about Gold and Silver:
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/76416880/
You got it!
Shouldn't someone be printing ? To stop this madness ?
http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/tot_operation_schedule.html
Tentative Outright Treasury Operation ScheduleThe Desk's tentative operation schedules associated with outright purchases and sales of Treasury securities as announced by the FOMC.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h6/current/
see M2
and..
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h6/hist/h6hist1.txt
even if you dont understand.. you can understand the FACT that the numbers are getting bigger, not smaller.
Oct. 3, 2008:Gold=$825 is to Oct. 3, 2011:Gold=$1650
as
Oct. 3, 2011:Gold=$1650 is to Oct. 3, 2014:Gold=?
a. $3300
b. $6600
c. $9900
d. unavailable
D.
Oct 3 2014: Gold = now priced in Renmibi
The only reason that America Owes Debt off shore is so that Banks on shore can collect fees..
So that the Share Holders of the Federal Reserve Bank can collect 6% on every dollar printed into circulation.
If America owed the Federal Reserve Bank $14 trillion in printed monies America would simply Not! pay the $14 Trillion.. so the debt has to belong to someone else other that ourselves.
The Fact that America has a 120% +++ amount of leverage on every U.S. dollar verse say the Chinese 1,200%+++ Leverage.. means that "We the People" are Transferring over 1,000% of our Wealth to China with every dollar they are allowed to invest into a U.S. Treasury (or other).
This is the biggest scam going and because the Value of the Yaun? is undervalued.. says Cable News in Heavy Rotation / 4 times an hour.. makes it so?
China services its debt or leverage on its Yaun / Renminbi thru production.
7 to 12 Cities a year are built that NO ON LIVES IN! and this is how China services its debt.
and the dumb ass people of America buy the story because it is repeated and repeated over and over again making China's Dollar "Strong like Bull!"
China's dollar is SHIT! and all of these Government Plants and / or STUPID Parrots should be rounded up and shot for Treason.
Stupid is as Stupid does. (Sino) Forrest Gump
Can we make the canuks take over for captian kirk with regard to to the new world "reserve" currency baton?
Beats violence on a flat world. And the Chinese are not the gimps Bloomberg thinks they are. empty cities or not.
China is an empty City.. and Bloomberg isnt quoting a 1,200% (number is from March 2011) +++ Leverage / Debt on every Renminbi Printed into existence.
so...
1,200% +++ leverage / debt on China's Printed Fiat Money.
120% +++ leverage / debt on every U.S. dollar printed into existence..
='s a wealth transfer of? over 1,000% to them.. not us.. and no matter how many TSY's we allow them to buy it doesn't change the fact that the only reason China can service its own debt load is because of the faux / empty cities.. that they build at a rate of 7 - 12 +? a Year.
China has one aircraft carrier that is in sea trials right now.. retro fit / bankruptcy purchase for $20m U.S. dollars?? is going to do what?
the worst thing we could do to China is build them up to fail.
and guess what?
all the property that China has bought in America.. all the Companies that China owns a majority in?
but 2 years ago China changed the law there.. no foreign company / person can own more the 40% of anything, period.
this shit ain't checkers.
and no violence?
the population is to fucking big! and poor people are going to thin the heard! of other poor people! LOL!
you think the Government all of the sudden forgot how to manage the herd?
wait?? because of the internet? LOL!!!
you will do what they want and not even know you are doing it for them! LOL!!
WAKE UP!
wait for the crack down on all those pretty lil girls getting pepper sprayed! wait till New York's Finest or some other armed group opens fire on the un-armed kids.. then we will have a ball game!
and its coming, quote me!
Why does a sovereign country have debt at all?
Dollar at parity with the Pengo :o )
e. having it already buried in your backyard.......Priceless
Now those are scary numbers. Sitting here with confetti and physical. Just did not get into shorting this time around. Guess we need to wait to either add or get back in to the miners if Tyler's math is correct.
Good Night
buy!
Buy!
BUY!!
the sheep are all lined up ready to be fleeced!
Pomo, the gift that keeps paying transaction fees!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OuQe-brvqY&feature=
I welcome yall to my show!
+1 best link of the day
this is easier than any Captcha i ever had to answer at zerohedge
Tyler Durden, will you marry me?
As soon as my hard-on recedes I shall promptly raise my limit order sell prices on FAZ, TZA, DPK, and EEV.
Think you just helped Tyler make his decision re: marrying you.
+lmao
It's a trick question. We all know that there were "green shoots" as early as March 2009. Ben Told us so and he wouldn't lie would he?
The "green shoots" of economic revival are already evident, Bernanke told CBS program "60 Minutes" in the interview broadcast late Sunday, which the network said was the first by any sitting Fed chairman in 20 years.
Oh I forgot about those green shoots (not really) but everyone else did - sigh.
I keep seeing references here at ZH to "green shoots." I've always thought it was some kind of inside joke, but I have to ask: Did somebody *important* (Bernake, Obama, Giethner, Dimon, Cramer?) actually use the expression seriously at some point? Seriously? What's next? Chauncey Gardner for president? Oh, wait. That just happened, didn't it?
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2009/04/green_shoots.html
Of course, he never bothered to clarify that those 'green shoots' turned out to be mold.
pandas eat green shoots, not eagles
"And I think as those green shoots begin to appear in different markets, and as some confidence begins to come back, that will begin the positive dynamic that brings our economy back,"
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5h0_BVHNrjlYOoncy63c6f...
Oh, dear. And I thought I'd seen everything.
Actually, that's delusional ... I don't have a television and haven't had one for nigh on 30 years, so I've probably seen nothing. Is this what goes on on television? The news and financial shows? Still? Today? This very hour?
People are going to wake up this morning, turn on the television and hear about green shoots, and then go to Starbucks?
I think I envy them.
Imagine where the market would be if we had some legitimate gut-check bad headline news like a major bank failure, rather than slow hemorrhage from papercuts.
Such Deja Vu. QE^N will come.
I went over it and over it and although I know its suppose to be easy, I'm just not seeing it. I'm sure its right in front of my face. Is this code? Math is hard.
I've had so much trouble focusing since the vaccination.
Retard.
I heard that the CME was going to raise the margin on the VIX by 50% to guard against volatility ;)
Oct. 10, 2008: SPX=899.22; VIX = 69.95 is to ....Oct.10, 2011: SPX #REF!; VIX=#REF!
Stay Calm, Be Brave, Wait for the Signs. ...
If you're still waiting, your late.
It's only two years two late, but we're finally getting the global reset I thought was coming then. To anyone who would ask the question, yes, I'd rather be early than clueless.
"Your Browser" has crashed.Please hit send ......
What are the odds here? I hope the analogy is true.
Oct 2008: Nobody could believe we'd see SPX 666
Oct 2011: Nobody would be surprised
This post should make you soil your pants. Of course the reason you soiled your pants would be different depending on if your long S&P or long gold.
Oct. 10, 2008: SPX=899.22; VIX = 69.95 is to ....
Oct 10, 2011: Goldman Bonuses=0; MS CDS = 528 ?
Idiots!
42 is the answer.
Oct 3, 2008: SPX=1099.23; VIX=45.14 is to Oct 3, 2011: SPX=1099.23; VIX=45.45
as
Oct. 10, 2008: SPX=899.22; VIX = 69.95 is to Oct. 10, 2011: SPX=799.25; VIX = 70.95
don't ask...
Oct 10th is the Anon day of NYSE destruction....
And at this point a 2008 Philly / Tampa World Series repeat is still possible...WTF???
what is .. cat.
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/08/25/buffett-to-invest-5-billion-in-ba... I find this math more amusing.
Is someone sorry for him? Why media still bow to the "Oracle" is beyond me.
Because the media sucks the dicks of rich people to make us all think they know what's going on and to let them retain power a little while longer.
Wait a minute, I've seen this question before, let me think...Yes! This is the exact same question that Prof. Bernanke gave us on our final exams at Princeton about ten years ago! The answer was QE100, and I got an A!
1280 and 22
Some site/blog/chat room/board called over-the-edge or some such name started talking about the fed twst program back in the spring and while many comment on the pitfalls of 3X ETFs, buying some (4p of your portfolio) TMF back then delivered a nice double
but seriously between 960 and 1280 with 20 percent overshoots in each direction for 18 years from 1998 to 2016 seems about inline with previous cycles (1120 about midrange)
buy on the way down, sell on the way up
hahahahah.......There is an expression in Brazil that is : "TOMA , TOMA ,TOMA !!".......like one " TAKE IT ! TAKE IT TAKE IT !!!".......
The movement is the same ! 2 months until free fall from first fall......"GAME OVER"
That's normally what I scream when I'm f**king someone... somehow, that seems appropriate in this context as well.
YEAH !!! THANKS A LOT FOR THE ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW ! cheers !
make me a bicycle clown!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8eL4GHCDhE
2 years, and 2 QE's ago...
Now we are in the same f**king place, unemployed with 2 trillion in additional debt. Wow, that worked out well...for the Banks and Wall Street.
HOUSTON.....we have a problem !!!.......we have sp500 and vix at the same place oct,2008.......we have a problem HOUSTON !!
Did you understand me ? Can you hear me Houston ? ZZZZZZZZZZZ
To read this message in English, Press 1. To read this message in broken Hindu-English, do nothing.
Sorry, but Houston has been shut down do to a lack of funding. Please address all your questions to Overland Park Kansas during the hours of 9AM to 5PM EST, and to Calcutta during the off hours. And if Overland Park Kansas doens't straighten up and stop demanding such things as a livable wage, you may soon be addressing all questions to Calcutta.
Whever I took standardized test my answers were always 1.) A 2.) C 3.) D 4.) C and repeat. ROCK n'ROLL!
Just remember, 1000 bernanke bucks is worth more TODAY, than two months ago compared to GOLD, SILVER, HOUSES, DIESEL, GASOLINE, HOME HEATING OIL, NAT GAS, COAL, and Food. Except for McDoubles, they were $1.00 and still are today.
Long the McRib?
Yes, a world run by marxist, mysogonist, lawbreaking gangstas is a suitable replacement for capitalism.
Monopoly money should buy some pretty good assets in the near future.
3Days worth of selling left (some end week meltups), but Asia sells all week. Then markets really slide for the rest of the year. Copper price starts to capitulate as indexes begin to crumble into new lows for 2011. Three major fronts in trouble EZ (crumbling) /US (recession/depression + trade war with China) + China (huge chunks of the Chinese economy crash within the October = extreme FUBAR
It's going to feel like the end of the world...for some.
asia rolling over again...october is the cruelest month
The math is too difficult - lets go shopping
That was good shit right there buddy!
have a song!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yyh_U32gbOo&feature=
I may not agree with you on a lot of things, but I gotta say you like good music.
you refuse to see my sarcasm.. if it doesnt make sense.. add "sarcsm /" to it and see if it doesnt pencil out for you.
I am for the people!
I am against the LOOBY! FED!! BANKERS (Investment)!!!
so.. if I am off message.. once again, think of my using sarcasm.
I am rolling with this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGbK_H1O8PI&feature=related
Ah yeah
You know I'd never considered how much Wendy resembles Rachal Maddow (or maybe the other way around) until now.
come on man dont do that to home team! LOL!!
Think I'll settle for Tom Lehrer, an actual mathematician-turned satirist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wHDn8LDks8
Or on a more positive note, that's rather apt considering the meltdowns at Fuckyoushima and in "the markets".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIoBrob3bjI
Oh and enjoy other offerings available in YouTube from Tom.
You mean such as his explanation of Ivy league economists?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL4vWJbwmqM
BTW, re-arrange the letters of 'Ivy league economist' and you get 'A selective guy I moon'