• Monetary Metals
    05/02/2016 - 01:28
    The price of gold shot up this week, and silver moved proportionally. Headlines are screaming for gold to hit $10,000 or $50,000. Does this alleged new bull market have legs?

Someone Does NOT Want To Be Long Over The Weekend

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Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:58 | 1677229 HUGE_Gamma
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this is the capitulation we have all been waiting for.. buy it and sit on it.


Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:05 | 1677305 SheepDog-One
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Go ahead, but your money would be far better invested in Gamblers Anonymous I'd say.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:26 | 1677429 reload
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Maybee he means Gold !

Which is shining again.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:38 | 1677487 spiral_eyes
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long term:

europe doesn't collapse gold goes higher.
europe does collapse gold goes higher. 
qe3 gold goes higher.
no qe3 gold goes higher.
death of the dollar gold goes higher.
dollar somehow survives gold goes higher.

what an investment.


Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:39 | 1677495 Snidley Whipsnae
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"Maybee he means Gold !"

Right... Looks like some of the paper coming out of financials is fleeing into gold... Now at $1820.50 and green.


Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:50 | 1677554 Sequitur
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I'll always fess up to losses. I shorted GLD and got singed by a couple of percentage points.

Still gots me physical gold maples and silver eagles, plus bullionvault and goldmoney, which have been reliable thus far.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:49 | 1677550 SheepDog-One
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Yea could be what he meant. Gold here is a bit tough though, great for anyone who bought far lower, a big chunk of change for anyone just looking to buy now.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 14:37 | 1678022 slewie the pi-rat
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anyone can sell every piece of gold and silver coin they own in the next hour, locally, @ market less "the vig"

there are buyers all day every day;  and sellers;  and paper hangers, too!

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:06 | 1677315 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You trade the nominal sans the real, eh?

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:08 | 1677326 Popo
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I hesitate to say it,  but what it *could* be is a recognition of the Swedish approach:   Wipe out the shareholders,  and nationalize the bank assets.

That would indeed make for quite a weekend...

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:26 | 1677428 SheepDog-One
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Anyone assuming that if they own stocks, the FED will surely save them if their shares crater doesnt remember the last 2 years very well. 'Bondholders safe'? Not in GM's case. When they nationalize all the banks and seize all the assets and property, all but the top insiders will get reamed.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:42 | 1677510 Bill Lumbergh
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SheepDog did you have your mandatory shot of hopium this morning...just listen to CNBC today and all will be well.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:49 | 1677553 SheepDog-One
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I put a block on that channel!

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 23:19 | 1679261 jeff montanye
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sheep you put a paw on it.  the stock holders have been standing against a wall wondering blindfold?  cigarette? 

it's the bond holders who need to feel the pain.  big time.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 13:06 | 1677645 Founders Keeper
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[When they nationalize all the banks and seize all the assets and property, all but the top insiders will get reamed.]---SheepDog-One

Roger that, SheepDog-One.


Fri, 09/16/2011 - 13:57 | 1677870 THE DORK OF CORK
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"Nationalise money not the banks" - Irwin Fisher


Irving Fisher and the 100 Percent Reserve ... - Full Reserve Banking

AIB just paid out 1.5 billion euros today




Fri, 09/16/2011 - 15:20 | 1678226 Bicycle Repairman
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The Swedish approach is 3 years overdue.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:48 | 1677545 Nothing To See Here
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Did you check for Solyndra shares? I think they're really affordable right now.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 13:12 | 1677671 walküre
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I concur.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 13:40 | 1677803 Spirit Of Truth
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Hope you didn't miss the opportunity to buy and sit on Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers when you had the chance! 

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 14:25 | 1677979 accumbens
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You may be sitting on something soon to be nationalized or bankrupted or both

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:55 | 1677240 SeverinSlade
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Hmm.  Bad news coming out over the weekend to trigger the necessary equity plunge necessary for QE3 to be green lighted later in the week?

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:03 | 1677295 SheepDog-One
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Certainly not out of the realm of possibility for these financial terrorists!

REMEMBER this week Weather Underground known terrorist and Obama best friend BILL AYERS is organizing a 'day of rage' protest TOMORROW on Wall St!


Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:18 | 1677389 Reptil
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Perhaps. It would be interesting to see what the reaction would be if they'd actually succeed to halt trading.
No one bothers unless damage is inflicted.

It's been a looooong time since the Weather Underground. Now, we have Blackberries, and Zynga games.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:20 | 1677400 Spastica Rex
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Good for Bill Ayers.

Enemy of my enemy and whatnot.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 13:14 | 1677676 Founders Keeper
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Guess I won't be seeking advice from Spastica Rex requiring sound thinking, principled values, and moral discipline.



Fri, 09/16/2011 - 13:39 | 1677801 Spastica Rex
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Good, 'cause I'm no ideologue. Plenty to choose from here; enjoy.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 14:11 | 1677919 Founders Keeper
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An ideoloque.  Thank you for the compliment.

Kind regards.


Fri, 09/16/2011 - 14:47 | 1678057 slewie the pi-rat
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spaZ_rex wins (again)! 

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 15:27 | 1678265 NotApplicable
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Yeah, it's always good when controlled opposition launches a faux attack to help out a friend.

Hegel owns you.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 15:45 | 1678324 Spastica Rex
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Genießen Sie Ihren Aufhebung.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 14:43 | 1678044 ww2vet
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ass WHOLE - market closed tom

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:56 | 1677249 DoChenRollingBearing
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I am not holding any financials over the weekend either...

Europe really is wagging the dog in the financial news this week.  It does not look like things will be getting better anytime soon, neither  in Europe nor here.

Fewer and fewer places to hide.  Got gold?

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:01 | 1677282 SheepDog-One
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And if youre bankrupt now, how does saying 'Oh yea we got this fixed, and will start resuming the same old failed crap but not till next year' help the fact that youre bankrupt TODAY? Something else real rotten is getting ready to blow up here, can just feel it.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:06 | 1677317 DoChenRollingBearing
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"Something else real rotten is getting ready to blow up here, can just feel it."

Nailed it, yeah, that's what I feel too, SheepDog.  What?  Beats me.  And I do not see any bankable way to make any money...  Short anything?  Naah, that never works for me either.

I will not short Europe nor anything here.  I'll just hold the gold.  Gold gets slapped again, I'll just buy more.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:46 | 1677533 SheepDog-One
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Im not takin the bait either way, these banks and stock owners want OUT!

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:57 | 1677258 Aductor
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Ah, not to worry. The ignorant US "markets" will resume uptrend. Geithner and the Chair must be obeyed.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:59 | 1677275 SheepDog-One
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Just wash, rinse, repeat from here on out till the big rug pull out...wont get much up or down either way, its all about crowd control its not a market.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:48 | 1677541 Smiddywesson
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its all about crowd control its not a market.

Yes.  Something rotten this way cometh.  In which case, using the SNB reverse gold logic play, gold may see some dirty pool over the weekend to protect us from that frothy speculation that is so dangerous to the metals markets but not to equities.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:57 | 1677259 trav7777
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Financials are fucked, dollar swaps or not

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:57 | 1677262 FinkPloyd
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Perhaps corellated with the gold price rise today. "tail risk" over the weekend ....

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:58 | 1677272 DosZap
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Something is pushing Gold and PM's back off the floor also........?

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:03 | 1677296 FinkPloyd
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Gold was down to $1760s today before asia closed. Up to $1804 as of now. Yesterdays "CBs saved us" moment wearing off fast, better to be long gold and risk protected over weekends....

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:09 | 1677332 DoChenRollingBearing
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Dos, Fink,

Gold seems to be the only thing anyone can TRUST.

The drop from $1915 to $1760s is just yet another of the drops we have to be ready for and willing to tolerate as TPTB try to stick save a rotten system, rotting by debt.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:18 | 1677391 Panafrican Funk...
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Yeah, I'm not particularly shaking in my boots here.  Oh no, we sunk all the way back to +26% YTD gains!!!!!  The sky is falling!!!!  Meanwhile, equities are still negative for the year.  If gold drops to $1500/oz., it will have still achieved that mystical 8% annual yield benchmark everyone is trying and epically failing to hit.

Yet, people still think I'm the moron for being heavily invested in gold.  Stupid, stupid world we live in.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:30 | 1677444 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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"Yet, people still think I'm the moron for being heavily invested in gold.  Stupid, stupid world we live in."

They will think the same when gold hits $5000 too.  "That 15 year chart is going straight up and what goes up must come down" they will announce airily as they congratulate themselves for not buying.

If Gold going from $35 in the late 60s to $1800 today or up 5X since 2001 doesnt convince them to at least consider that they may have been wrong, why would being up 10X or 50X?  One thing I learned from the housing bubble is that most people would rather fail along with everyone else than succeed on their own.  The media tells them gold is stupid and it gives them great comfort to belong to a group of people who sound like they know what they are talking about.


I declare that we should let people enjoy whatever comfort they can during days to come.  They will need it.



Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:36 | 1677475 DoChenRollingBearing
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Here's another indicator that physical gold is not being released by its owners:

24hgold.com and eBay have a joint-venture widget at 24hgold.com's site (bottom of the first page).  For the past two days the "eBay price" has not moved (Gold Eagles) while gold's (paper) price has bounced around.  No one there at eBay wants to let their gold go cheap.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:51 | 1677559 Smiddywesson
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Love it, thanks!!!


Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:24 | 1677418 americanspirit
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Right on DoChen - each of these "retracements" is just a ploy to shake loose a few thousand small money buyers who jumped on the bandwagon in the past few weeks/months and put all they had into a few ounces and now - oh my God - I've lost $100/ounce. Better sell and sell fast. Boy, I'll never do that again.

TPTB are just doing their routine training of the masses - be afraid, be very afraid, and don't you dare buy gold (or silver) because all you are going to do is lose money.

And it works - for some of the epople, some of the time. But only works on those who have a day-by-day or week-by-week view of life and who know nothing about what is going on in the world.

Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:35 | 1677464 FinkPloyd
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Hmm... Gold up like a rocket to $1817. Would like to see a chart of euro banks v/s gold price.

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