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Someone Is Going To Jail For This: MF Global Caught Stealing Hundreds Of Millions From Customers?

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Mon, 10/31/2011 - 21:08 | 1830310 Mohan
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We have regulators? In the United Corporations of America? News to me.
Mon, 10/31/2011 - 21:13 | 1830328 Carlyle Groupie
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All of whom are ex-Goldman employees.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 21:21 | 1830336 Pladizow
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This is testimoney to the fact that you cannot regulate fraud and no matter the degree of regulation, wall street will not change.

Without fraud and war, America has NO business model!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 21:34 | 1830417 bernorange
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TCTJ = Too Connected To Jail


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 21:56 | 1830485 Hedgetard55
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Don Corzine (proper pronunciation in Italian: Cor-zeen-eh, similar to Don Barzini in The Godfather) has the FED regulators in his pocket like so many nickels and dimes.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 22:07 | 1830532 eureka
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Mon, 10/31/2011 - 22:32 | 1830597 Cynical Sidney
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we have an obligation to bail out diligent working banksters from MF global, so we can arrest criminals who produce nothing of value such as the occupy wall street protesters and put them in jail for the rest of their lives.


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 22:42 | 1830623 Comay Mierda
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Baseball bat ----> corzine's kneecaps Warren G style regulators

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 22:52 | 1830656 jeff montanye
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that's a 6 mr. durden.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:44 | 1830774 flacon
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At least he didn't defile the mens rooms along the New Jersey turnpike like the other governator ("I-am-a-gay-americn"-McGreevey) did. Why did Thain need a golden bathroom at Merrill Lynch?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:52 | 1830787 Schmuck Raker
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I can't believe no one's re-posted this, so(2nd time/TD approved)

"...aaand it's gone"

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:58 | 1830800 Fish Gone Bad
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+1  aaaaand it's gone is ALWAYS funny.


Tue, 11/01/2011 - 00:17 | 1830819 TruthInSunshine
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I've been on an (admittedly) annoying off topic sequence (3 straight posts now) today/tonight, but I wouldn't be doing it if it weren't noteworthy 411 and regarding things I thought you'd all find highly interesting, if not downright incredible.

And so...here....we....go:

From tonight's New York Times (essentially, the New York Branch of the Federal Reserve Bank disregarded higher ups and refused to insist on haircuts for counterparties to insolvent entities such as AIG and others, putting taxpayers on the hook for far more than should have been the case [assuming the bailouts were legal, ethical - given conflicts of interest -, or prudent, in the first place]).

What the New York Fed could have gotten for 10 cents on the dollar, they refused, and insisted on using tax dollars to pay full face (inflated wildly) value for toxic sludge to ensure their VIP friends such as Goldman and JPM got fully paid on their CDS bets with the likes of AIG.

Sweet deal for banksters. No shame. No ethics. No limits in the ways and manner in which they shaft the taxpayers and grease the cronyistic, nepotistic, kleptocratic revolving door between the New York Fed and the Chosen Wall Street Investment 'Firms' doing such a great national service for the economy.

And who was the head of the New York Fed when this all took place? Why none other than Timmmmay Geithner, of course, of course.

Report Says New York Fed Didn’t Cut Deals on A.I.G.

New York Times 37 minutes ago

In paying the full amounts A.I.G. owed financial companies, the New York Fed disregarded the expectations of senior Fed officials in Washington.

WASHINGTON — The findings of a federal investigation released Monday raised new questions about the Federal Reserve Bank of New York’s handling of the 2008 bailout of American International Group.

The report, by the Government Accountability Office, says that New York Fed officials have offered inconsistent explanations for their decision to pay other financial companies the full amounts they were owed by A.I.G., and that some of the explanations were contradicted by other evidence.

The report also asserts that the decision to pay the full amounts, rather than seeking concessions as the government later did in other cases, disregarded the expectations of senior Fed officials in Washington and the expressed willingness of some of the companies to accept smaller payments.

In one case, when a company offered to accept a smaller amount of money, officials at the New York Fed responded that they had decided to pay the full amount of the debt, the report said.


Report Says New York Fed Didn’t Cut Deals on A.I.G.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 00:28 | 1830846 lunaticfringe
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I'm ready to start stretching necks.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 00:49 | 1830881 TruthInSunshine
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Trav questioned why I posted what I did above twice now, which is a fair question.

My response was as follows:

It's significant enough that I believed posting it twice had merit.

In fact, it warrants a headline from ZH.

That the Government Accountability Office has essentially accused the New York Fed (headed by Geithner, at the time) of lying with respect to the reasons for paying the amounts it did to counterparties of AIG, during the largest bailout and backstop of Wall Street in American History, is highly extraordinary.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 01:30 | 1830916 strannick
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Someone is going to jail for this

Yeah, it'll be the accountants assistant copyboy.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 05:32 | 1831043 Widowmaker
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Yep, record bonuses commence in 3...2...

No one saw it coming, no one.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 06:13 | 1831052 Hephasteus
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I thought goldman had a brown guy service.

Hello I need another brown guy. Bit of trouble here.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 03:06 | 1830985 Michael
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I too have reposted things of relevance I thought to get more audience than the previous thread had eyeballs on it.


The Jews monetary system really sucks and their financial product innovations they peddle to us are sucky as well.

It has nothing to do with Jews being Jews. It has to do with the really sucky product.

I'm looking forward to a Constitutional Currency once again. 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 01:03 | 1830897 Mentaliusanything
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pertinant and catchy tune 

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 02:19 | 1830953 TheLooza
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We want the Money, Corzowksi. Bunny says you're good for it.  Where's the money Corzowksi? Where's the money Corzowksi?  Where's the fucking money shithead!!!!!



Tue, 11/01/2011 - 03:15 | 1830987 Sorynn
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Ha-ha jokes on US.


Tue, 11/01/2011 - 04:05 | 1830998 Raging Debate
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Some games are played in 5d. The joke of the devil was indeed on the American people. Let's make sure it doesn't become hillarity. I actually like all peoples of this world and to magnify large global losses carved into flesh is not a game that should be played.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 22:40 | 1830624 DoChenRollingBearing
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WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHY, WHY, WHY was I screaming about Jon Corzine earlier today???!!!

He is the dirtiest POS on planet Earth!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 22:50 | 1830646 Manthong
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This should be pretty good.

I bet there are a number of liberal notables that have been Maddof'd by Corzine.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 02:37 | 1830960 crazyjsmith
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They must safely remove the client from their money.
Those barriers must be strong and irrevocable.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 07:18 | 1831095 grey7beard
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>> I bet there are a number of liberal notables

Brilliant, make this a liberal/conservative issue.  There's a recipe for more of the same.

Wed, 11/02/2011 - 00:26 | 1835670 Xavier Doe
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It is, where the objectivity of the press is concerned.

Were Corzine an "evil Republican" instead of a press-coddled Democrat, this assiduously downplayed "non-story" would have already erupted at full volume, blasting 24 hours a day on news networks everywhere, and his name would've been dragged through the mud several times over by now.

Instead we get "let's be cautious, not jump to conclusions".  Tell that to Herman Cain, whose staff was last seen waiting for Godot^H^H^H^H^H treatment in kind from these zealous caution-mongers.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 22:52 | 1830655 Bwahaha WAGFDSMB
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Economic hit man?  Who was he really working for?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:17 | 1830721 Careless Whisper
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I'm just wondering if JC Flowers is the next domino to fall?


Tue, 11/01/2011 - 00:49 | 1830882 Fukushima Sam
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I'm sure everything is just fine over at Corzine's.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 01:06 | 1830898 optimator
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I can find only one redeeming quality in Jon. He generously spent 100 million dollars of his own ill gotten gains, er, I mean money, to get elected to the Senate where he could "help" himsel, er I mean help the country. Waddaguy!  
Tue, 11/01/2011 - 06:01 | 1831045 Widowmaker
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Those seasoned in politics may uncomfortably tell you, politics IS the exit strategy for far too many criminals.

Unfortunately, this is usually realized late after the fact.

MF Global was one big private bailout, the end. Im wondering if It was set up to fail every step of the way...

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 22:42 | 1830628 Howard_Beale
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Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:33 | 1830742 tickhound
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"At Goldman, we recognize that the capitalist system as we know it is circling the drain – but there’s plenty of money to be made on the way down." - HB

MF Global reminds me of "Goldman Sachs Global Rage Fund*" - HB tm*

a classic. 

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:26 | 1830740 ricocyb13
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Corleone or Cocaine ?

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 00:01 | 1830807 redguard
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So your saying he"s Italian.....

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 02:04 | 1830939 Breaker
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I think Obama will throw him under the bus. Eggs must be broken to make an omlette and members of the ruling class understand that periodically, a few of them must be sacrificed to achieve their the blessing of peace and prosperity for the class as a whole. Corzine will get an easy sentence and much of his fortune will remain intact. But he will likely go down. 

This will be a cheap ond easy way to deflect popular anger from a bloated, all-powerful government to "Wall Street," who are obviously responsible for the failure of Obama's noble progressive vision. And it will shore up the radical base without alienating independents because Corzine probably does deserve jail time. It will also give Eric Holder something to do besides defending shipping automatic weapons to drug cartels. Corzine should be looking at the correlation of forces against him--he has no friends among Republicans or conservatives and he will be looking like a pretty juicy sacrificial lamb for the administration. He should be striving to find some tapes of Obama, Pelosi and Reid with dead children and putting them in a very secure place.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 08:57 | 1831467 tarsubil
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And when you say "throw him under the bus" you mean "give him a couple hundred million for his official retirement", right?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 21:40 | 1830437 Haole
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"Without fraud and war, America has NO business model!"


There's still porn and doughnuts!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 21:43 | 1830447 Freewheelin Franklin
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Bitches and blow, bitchez

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 09:29 | 1831756 Chrome Child
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Or, Bananas and blow:


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 21:47 | 1830461 Pladizow
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Perhaps you should franchise a combination of the both?!?!

Could give new meaning to "Time to make the doughnuts".

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 21:56 | 1830492 UP4Liberty
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How 'bout "Time to make the blow-nutz!"?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:49 | 1830780 Dingleberry
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DOn't forget we have the tattoo industry now also......

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 03:36 | 1830990 Bollixed
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Finally, somebody who sees the big picture...

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:06 | 1830654 Melin
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pish tosh.  Fraud is punishable under the Constitution.  "Regulating" fraud is the status quo and breeds the corruption you pretend to want eliminate.  

America's business model is voluntary trade for mutual benefit.  Fight to end the regulations and trade with people and companies who've earned your trust.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 01:17 | 1830911 eatthebanksters
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You can regulate fraud real successfully using the simple Chinese method.  Guilty parties are shot in the back of the head and the bill for the cost of the bullet is sent to the family ofthe executed.  We should use golden bullets on these guys and gals!

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 03:07 | 1830983 anonnn
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Pladizow- and "you cannot [effectively and directly] regulate fraud"...

Arguably true, and clearly true that you canot effectively regulate insider trading.

But both can be indirectly regulated with effectiveness acceptible to serve real fairness, aka justice, that has nearly always been absent.

Namely, there are ways to set limits on income/profits that can be easily monitored and exposed.

How? Locate 20 of the brightest persons, by demonstrated background accomplishments in any scientific disciplines.  Define the general problem or undesired situation and let them, individually and in groups of their own choosing, come up with workable solutions.

 Publish their solutions/suggestions publicly and their views on each of the solutions/suggestions exactly as they are offerred, without editing by outsiders. After a period of public debate, let Congress decide how to procede, with any plans for actual implemenation being first reopened to public comment by the 20 individuals before proceding.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 03:48 | 1830995 Bollixed
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That's how we got into this mess. Fooled ourselves into thinking the mental elite had better masterbatory habits than the rest of us so we gave them ivory towers to make their proclamations from. Then we bowed to their prowess, looked at each other and said "Yea, I'll go with that" not even realizing we were relying on other fools.

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