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S&P Futures At Tipping Point On German Finmin Grexit Chatter

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The market was just starting to digest the schizophrenic Durable Goods data when chatter broke of the German FINMIN discussing a 'temporary' GRExit. In other words, just like Mario Draghi could transmogrify the twilight zone into reality during Merkel's vacation, and spread unfounded rumors that Europe is fine, now that the Chancellor has returned, the rumors take on the other side of the equation, and the mice no longer can play. This pushed S&P futures below overnight lows (down about 5pts from Dur Goods), EUR down 40 more pips (-75pips from close), and 10Y Treasury yields dropped 3bps (down 6bps from their overnight open). As we stand S&P 500 futures appear poised at an important trend-line tipping point in this move as Draghi's dreams are delayed to mid September and the world stops believing - as there is market talk also that Netherlands, Finland, Slovakia and Estonia are said to back the German plan.

S&P 500 e-mini futures at trendline decision time (red arrow)...

 

EUR disappointed...

 

Elsewhere, this is the caption we have all been waiting for:


 


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Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:00 | Link to Comment tawse57
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Does this mean that the DOW might actually go down 0.1% at some point or will we have DOW 14,000 by close of business tonight?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:07 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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Just Fecking "DO IT" Already ...

 

All is Not Lost, They still make great Souflakis!

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:26 | Link to Comment Nothing To See Here
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Obama can fix this, if he is given the necessary powers that is...

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 10:37 | Link to Comment Nothing To See Here
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LOL

I figured my sarcasm would be obvious, but it obviously wasnt...

-1 for FAIL

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:13 | Link to Comment Comay Mierda
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the major indices will only crash if priced in gold

DJIA/Gold ratio will probably reach 1.00 at the height of the coming dollar collapse, then i will sell my gold for stocks

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 10:39 | Link to Comment Lets_Eat_Ben
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I think you are missing the point of "The Most Important Chart in the World". Stocks have been de-valuing in real terms for about a decade; that's what that graphic represents.

Out of Au and into the (more easily manipulated) stock market? That is a well thought out plan with little to no chance of backfiring. Also, you are very intelligent.

 

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment Comay Mierda
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why dont you take a look at the dow/gold ratio in the late 70's early 80's genius

at some point, not soon though, gold will become a bubble.  i will exchange it for stocks, let them run, then buy gold after it comes down again

only idiots buy and hold any asset forever

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:01 | Link to Comment Jlmadyson
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They have truly run out of jawboning, options and time.

More importantly Merkel and friends are clearly marking the line.

Enough is enough as it were.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:09 | Link to Comment Stock Tips Inve...
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Whatever the route taken by the European authorities, these will have a negative effect on the market. What happens, is that a way can be a good solution to long term. However, there are other ways that can lead to disaster. But all these roads will be filled with stones.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 10:54 | Link to Comment LMAOLORI
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We'll see how political this gets...

 

Barack Obama asks eurozone to keep Greece in until after election day

US officials are worried that if Greece exits the eurozone, it will damage President's election hopes

 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/barack-obama-asks-eurozone-to-keep-greece-in-until-after-election-day-8076852.html

 

 

German Finance Minister Rejects Greece

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"German Finance Minister says no to giving Greece more time

German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble told a public radio Thursday that granting more time to Greece to implement reform is “not a solution” to its problems.

“More time is not a solution to the problems,” Schaeuble told SWR radio Thursday. He argued that granting more time to Greece for its reform implementation would mean more cost for creditors.

“The question is how we win back trust of the market,” he said, urging Greece to keep the time line as agreed originally."

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:01 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Nice bank run in Vietnam too, theyre grabbing the Dong BANK RUN IN VIETNAM (Who is connectingdots3) - YouTube

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 10:25 | Link to Comment Lets_Eat_Ben
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Everybody take posession of your Dongs, quick, and hold on with both hands!

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 10:29 | Link to Comment Lets_Eat_Ben
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A great deal of pressure is being felt on the Dong. If the Dong masters can supply adequate liquidity then the pressure will be relieved, but it will surely build again and again.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:01 | Link to Comment malikai
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It looks like EURUSD is pulling it down.

http://blog.quantsig.net/2012/08/24/eurusd-begins-convergence/

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:02 | Link to Comment Neoisolationist
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I just have to say this: Bullish!

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:02 | Link to Comment Boilermaker
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Don't worry, it'll go back up just in time for a positive open, then have a mystery ram-rod moment higher, then drift sideways into the close for another feel-good Friday moment.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:02 | Link to Comment JeremyWS
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What charting software is the E-mini SP futures being shown on in the first chart? Doesn't look like bloomberg, but looks pretty good, thanks.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:02 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Yeah we'll go to 1375 and then Hilsenbarf will throw out a QE bone.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:11 | Link to Comment GolfHatesMe
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at 3:30 set your watches

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:04 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Theyre going to try gliding a 747 on fumes for 3 months....good luck Beardface we're all counting on you.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:17 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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I have to concentrate... I have to CONCENTRATE... Hello [Hello] Echo [Echo]... Now pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon ~ Manny Mota...

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:22 | Link to Comment The Wizard of Oz
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good luck Beardface we're all counting on you.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:26 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Win one for the 'Zipper'

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:32 | Link to Comment piliage
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Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop leveraging short.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:07 | Link to Comment whydtinogo
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Caption: Thats right, you walk just behind me, like the Queen.

 

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:08 | Link to Comment tawse57
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Is Merkel saying "This is how you get a good grip?"

No wonder the guy behind her has a big smile on his face.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:27 | Link to Comment piliage
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"Gosh Angela, you do look lovely in a pants suit. Did you lose weight on vacation?"

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Nobody For President
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"Aren't you glad none of those rifles are loaded?"

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:09 | Link to Comment Boilermaker
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Storming higher and back to parity right now.

<hands up in the air> WHEEEEEE

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:12 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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Something wierd happening in the European banks this morning.

My transfers are not being executed.

Anyone else having problems ?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:14 | Link to Comment Jlmadyson
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Would not be surprised in this environment. Bank holidays soon.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:16 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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i think i have your transfers right here actually...

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 10:03 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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Finally they went thru.Six hours vs normal two.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:13 | Link to Comment Negro Primero
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ATHENS/BERLIN (MNI) – "The German Finance Ministry is seriously
considering a plan in which Greece would be obliged to ask for a
temporary exit from the Eurozone until it sorts out its public finances,
senior Eurozone officials told MNI."

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:13 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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caption time: Yes mommy!

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:58 | Link to Comment Pool Shark
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AP: Merkel and Draghi cheerfully face firing squad for crimes against humanity

 

 

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:14 | Link to Comment Joe A
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These soldiers had been ordered to shoot the Greek PM if he would give Merkel a Fakelaki in return for a Rousfeti.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:25 | Link to Comment Abraxas
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“Netherlands, Finland, Slovakia and Estonia are said to back the German plan"

What Hitler could not achieve with all the military might and devotion of his people, the technocrats did without a bullet, legally and with consent of other countries – enlarge German living space and establish colonies all over Europe. In return the Germans promise slavery for the 1000 year Reich. Nothing changed.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:35 | Link to Comment Nachdenken
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You should read current events rather than history. That old and worn cliche is inept.

Germany has a strong savings base, a cautious credit shy consumer segment, and unbeatable exports.  It is now the anchor and pivot for the European Union.

Current German economic strength is its fiscal discipline., and has, this half year a budget surplus.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:40 | Link to Comment sunshineguerilla
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Maybe you should try keeping the should's to a minimum. Nobody here is your wife.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:58 | Link to Comment Bullionaire
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As the Tylers have repeatedly pointed out, the German "economic miracle" is mostly channel-stuffing.

 

Harumph.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:17 | Link to Comment BrigstockBoy
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ausgezeichnet

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:17 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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Dow 36,000 here we come.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:18 | Link to Comment Boilermaker
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AND ES goes green in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1....

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:19 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Merkel : you know you really are a worthless piece of shit. If you try another move like that while I'm on vacation these soldiers will have their guns pointed at you.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:20 | Link to Comment The Reich
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'temporary' GRExit as temporary  as the European Financial Stabilisation Mechanism (EFSM)?

 

 

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:22 | Link to Comment Meesohaawnee
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yea cause after all 96 crude is gonna help get the euro zone out of the depression. They institute austarity.. and so do we. Just take it!

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:27 | Link to Comment jover
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The grexit will be transitory for sure

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:35 | Link to Comment sunshineguerilla
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Merkel : 'I think a li **** came out in that fart!'

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:44 | Link to Comment BigPerm
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They are going to let Greece go in early September and let the FED/ECB/G20 meetings pick up the pieces

Jig is up Mr Panos!

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 09:55 | Link to Comment Bullionaire
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Caption:

 

Geli - "Now you stand right here while I walk over there where those nice men are."

 

 

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 10:17 | Link to Comment pazmaker
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Let it all crash and burn...for then the phoenix rises

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 12:27 | Link to Comment TPTB_r_TBTF
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There will be *NO* GREXIT nor a EURO-Breakup!

 

The Finance Ministry should clarify this position with the Chancellery and TPTB.  The Chancellor and TPTB say otherwise!

Bundeskanzlerin Angela Merkel (CDU) hat sich klar gegen einen Austritt Griechenlands aus der Euro-Zone ausgesprochen und damit Kritiker in den eigenen Reihen in die Schranken gewiesen.


Chancellor Angela Merkel (CDU) spoke clearly *against* a GREXIT; thereby putting critics from her own coalition in their fucking places.

 

Merkel says: No GREXIT!

 

TPTB whisper: ... no GREXIT...  one-World Govt...  grab assets in Greece...  less national sovereignty in Euroland... no Euro breakup!

Edit:  @Tyler, you did you mean the markets were tipping up, right?  I see a big spike up on my screen!

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