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Spirit Level... Or Li(e)bor?

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There was a time when Libor, and the British Bankers' Association was relevant. As well it should: after all $350 trillion worth of downstream "products" are reliant on it. That's right: $350,000,000,000,000.00 worth of notional assets have their value directly and indirectly linked to what a consortium of BBA member banks sits down every day and tells the world is the cost of unsecured overnight funding. Of course, there are occasional allegations and lawsuits that the entire Libor market is nothing but one massively manipulated cesspool, in which the banks, desperate to give off the impression they are healthy will offer numbers which have no bearing on reality, and which in a world which is now entirely funded by central banks, are just as irrelevant. This, however, is total BS. After all, as we all know, in the past three months, liquidity conditions have tightened massively, an entire country's banking system has officially failed and been bailed out, and everyone is now screaming for more liquidity because liquidity is so obviously tight. Surely this all is reflected in a volatile, and rapid rise in the USD Libor as reported daily by the BBA: after all they do have an upward struggle to regain their credibility, and to restore confidence in the Libor indicator. Well, let's take a look at the historical chart of the benchmark 3 Month Libor, shall we....

Wait, this can't... Europe is imploding, the world economy is crashing, and the Spanish banking sector has failed, and the BBA is telling us that in over 3 months Libor has moved by at most... 3 bps, has actually been unchanged for weeks and weeks on end, and has been used by construction workers in the place of a spirit level?

But, but, this may lead some to believe that all those allegations of Libor market manipulation are....true?! Because if the world is on the verge of collapse and Liebor, pardon, Libor has not budged by 3 pips since the day LTRO2 was concluded,  it may, just may, lead some to question just how bad the bank liquidity truly is among the BBA respondent banks.

Fear not, though, we know what will fix everything shortly:

Anthony Browne, a Morgan Stanley executive and former adviser to Boris Johnson, the mayor of London, is on Tuesday expected to be named as the new head of the British Bankers’ Association.

 

The appointment follows a two-month search by Marcus Agius, chairman of the BBA and of Barclays, one of the UK’s biggest banks. Angela Knight, chief executive of the BBA who led the lobby group through the tumultuous years following the onset of the financial crisis, announced she would step down in April.

 

He has experience defending the UK financial services industry through his involvement with City UK, a group dedicated to promoting the square mile. Mr Browne helped set up the group and remains a member of its board.

 

His role at Morgan Stanley – head of government relations for Europe, the Middle East and Africa – should also prepare him for tricky dealings with ministers as he tackles a range of sensitive industry issues, including pay and consumer protection.

Well, if a former Morgan Stanley "diplomat" is about to be placed in charge of Libor, then all is well, and the $350 trillion market is once again in safe, unmanipulated, and fully-credible hands.

 


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Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:00 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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 "There was a time when Libor, and the British Bankers' Association was relevant"

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When? Like right before the battle of Waterloo?

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:02 | Link to Comment sunaJ
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So, to combine two ZH headlines, we die of Eurosis of the Libor.  Is that correct?

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:04 | Link to Comment Raymond Reason
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The tangled web they're weaving is beginning to look like a noose. 

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:09 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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"Eurosis of the Libor"

Well played, Sir!!!

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:11 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Manthong
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Atta’ boy for that.. They will just keep swigging down that 100 proof liquidity, all the while pretending it’s water until everything stops working.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 12:07 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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Let's just hope the noose is made in China, that way, it will break when it tries to hold up.

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 10:35 | Link to Comment LMAOLORI
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Seriously hahaha you actually believe anyone will do anything about this??????

Wall Street Supporters In Congress Unmoved By Libor Probe

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-03/wall-street-supporters-in-congress-unmoved-by-libor-probe.html

 

Wall Street still giving to Obama

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57465854-503544/wall-street-still-giving-to-obama/

 

Morgan Stanley Got S&P To Inflate Ratings, Investors Say

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-02/morgan-stanley-pushed-s-p-to-boost-ratings-investors-say.html

 

Hot new filing claims internal docs show rating agencies lied on MBS

http://newsandinsight.thomsonreuters.com/Legal/News/ViewNews.aspx?id=51259&terms=%40ReutersTopicCodes+CONTAINS+%27ANV%27

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:14 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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+1 I was a little slow on the take there. I had to take a second look.

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:57 | Link to Comment Random_Robert
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"Eurosis of the Libor"

 

Fucking brilliant....

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 15:01 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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I think Tyler needs to add that one to the ZH dictionary...

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 16:40 | Link to Comment Stuck on Zero
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You guys are reading the chart wrong.  The patient is the banking system and the pulse of banking is what is charted.  This patient is clearly "flat lined."

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:07 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Mean while back in the U.S:

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/11/border-agency-overextended-drone-program/

 

What to do? What to do? So many drones ...so few ideas.

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:07 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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"The agency also said it won’t expand beyond 10 drones — “unless directed to do so by a higher authority.”"

I assume they mean the Fed?

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:57 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Or the EPA. Seems they want to keep track of all the bullshit ranchers are spreading as opposed to all the bullshit that .GOV and the Fed produces.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/11607-epa-defends-use-of-spy-drones-over-iowa-neb-cattle-ranches

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:06 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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".....and has been used by construction workers in the place of a spirit level?"

Actually just plumbers.....who all know that shit flows down hill and payday is Friday. No need for a spirit level anywhere as good as the Li(e)bor. Just piss on the ground and carefully watch where the dollars flow.  

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:07 | Link to Comment libertus
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Libor is meaningless in a world where the ECB and the FED backstop everything. If the markets actually worked it would have spiked. This number--like most of the others coming out of the markets means nothing and just points to the singularity around the corner. 

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:12 | Link to Comment waterwitch
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I feel pretty level after a few spirits :D

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:21 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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So is England the collateral or merely London? Of course "there is the slight problem of collection." Who here has thought about that? The "number of airborne divisions" it takes to "collect on an unpayable debt"? Oh, that would be me of course. Shall i interest you in a 1000 ton "experimental German tank" then? The Germans actually built some of these things in case you're wondering.

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:21 | Link to Comment blindman
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that was a big deal in the summer of 2008,
as you suggest, i think, before full entrenchment
of the digital ponzi-gnome, central, che-loving,
guerilla, capitalist banker zombie-vampire occupation.
they will find no flesh in the gut upon autopsy,
it will all be laying on the streets as reported
by those closest to the situation. (eye witnesses).
shouldn't there be a rehypothecated index normalization swap to, upon request, keep that thing right where it is or needs to be/should be for occasions such as this?
b double e double r U>N>. beer run?
what is spirit level? among other things..
Jethro Tull - Locomotive Breath
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWubhw8SoBE
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" no way to slow down.." i.a.

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:26 | Link to Comment AndrewJackson
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As a clerk in the Eurodollar Options pit, I can tell you liebor is the biggest piece of shit ever. It really is hilarious how many products are linked to libor. Why on earth, going forward, would anyone hedge with this piece of shit number? Gosh I need to find a new less manipulated market.

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:27 | Link to Comment Broomer
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I read 350 trillion and felt nothing, but seeing $350,000,000,000,000.00 written sent a chill down my spine.

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 16:55 | Link to Comment noob
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...relax, it's only...

   3.5E+14      ...no biggy  /sarc   ;)

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:27 | Link to Comment sudzee
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I think the financial system is at the point where it could crash with the withdrawel of 5 physical dollars. I'll be back in 10 min.

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 17:55 | Link to Comment The Alarmist
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Don't leave that $5 lying around unguarded ... JPM will take it for itself as collateral and rehypothecate it to the ECB, and they will leverage it to bail out Italy, and the next thing you know the whole world economy will implode.

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:46 | Link to Comment HellZero
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Not defending libor, but plenty of the banks on the panel are awash with liquidity; when things get worse, some are seeing more not less liquidity (maybe short duraton, but still). 

Thus its a totally redundant indicator for risk at moment. EurUsd basis swap is a far better indicator of stress

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 14:51 | Link to Comment razorthin
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No, it was relevant in 2008.  After the ensuing crash is when they decided to put a lid on it.  Never again shall the sheep be forewarned.

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 15:08 | Link to Comment slewie the pi-rat
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eurosis of the the libor made me spill my rice!

Mon, 06/11/2012 - 15:54 | Link to Comment AGoldhamster
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reminds me of EURCHF

Tue, 06/12/2012 - 03:33 | Link to Comment BritishBankers
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British Bankers' Association here. As you know we do not comment on LIBOR movements so we will limit ourselves to two factual corrections. One: you do not need to be a BBA member bank to be a member of a LIBOR panel. Two: LIBOR data are available in 15 maturities, so it's not just overnight funding. That's all.

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 10:39 | Link to Comment Cursive
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Another comedic trolling attempt.  Here's a fact:  one can either be hanged by the neck until one dies or one can be hanged in such a way as to break one's neck, thus dying instantaneously.  I'd prefer to avoid the noose altogether, but if given the ultimatum, I'd go with instantaneously.  Something for all BBA members to think about.

Tue, 07/03/2012 - 12:14 | Link to Comment bmusic
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The problem is, outside of the few thousand that will likely read this article, no one cares.  Try walking down an average street and asking people about Libor manipulation, and you'll be hard pressed to find a single person that know what you are talking about.  Normal people just don't know what the hell is going on!

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