Spot The Naval Hot Zone

Tyler Durden's picture

'Things' appear to be hotting up in a couple of places around the world. While the Middle East's incessant instability only grows worse; the following clip from Stratfor sheds light on the 'discussion' that is occurring in the middle of the Pacific with the Chinese and the Phillipines over potential energy rights. Nothing to see here, move along.



And on the Chinese maritime 'excursion'...


And Iran and Syria...

Source: Stratfor

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spinone's picture

4 carriers in the persian gulf means war

ACP's picture

I thought Thailand was the hot naval zone?

Son of Loki's picture

U prob mean the bars & nightlcubs of Pattaya as the hot navel zone.

ihedgemyhedges's picture

Don't know about other guys on here, but I like the hot zone below the can get kind of hairy in some situations..........

AldousHuxley's picture

2 in hawaii means luau


CVN 73 going to overrun chinese floating shack which actually may be scuba diving vacation spot for spoiled sons of Chinese generals while they get their "I served in the military" stamped for future government career.


No war until after elections because that means higher gas prices, unless Obama's popularity sinks so bad that he needs to go to war to get votes from warmongers

White.Star.Line's picture


I don't remember you mentioning war in such a cheerleading fashion in your previous writings........

Have you taken this moniker by false=gain?

Think for yourself's picture

What cheerleading? I don't see him taking any position either for or against, but only giving his assessment of the situation.

Moreover, his statement "unless Obama's popularity sinks so bad that he needs to go to war to get votes from warmongers" is far from telling us he looks upon actual war cheerleaders in a good light.

It seems that you are quick to judge, my friend.

JoBob's picture

Hence the need for more haircuts on those assets.

mick68's picture

Dumbasses will be making their jokes, assuming this is nothing, and betting long while this turns global. This is a war that amerikans will not watch on TV, it'll be outside their windows and in their streets.

Popo's picture

I'll take the under on that. It'll be all over TV and fought over there. (Neither of which I say as a 'good thing')

neidermeyer's picture

There will be no war , the Philippines has no navy and we wouldn't back them anyway with the current president... It's been all over the Philippine TV (ANC and ABS/CBN) for months that they have some kind of revenue sharing areement with the Chicoms..

sessinpo's picture

I don't think anyone cares who has or hasn't got a navy or army. In fact, the weaker the military they have, the better. Would you want to do battle with an equal or superior opponent or a weaker one?

Anyway, I do agree with you that the Philippines is unlikely, but for different reasons. I don't think we want to take on the Chinese. A more likely situation is Syria or provoking Iran. But have inferior military compared to ours, not on technology wise but personnel wise.

Think for yourself's picture


Would you want to do battle with an equal or superior opponent or a weaker one?

Is this a trick question? For TPTB, with an equal, of course.

  • More protracted
  • According to global power, probably more widespread as well
  • More sheeple sent to their deaths
  • According to global power, probably opens up more significant areas to dispute resource hegemony
  • Increases demand for MIC's products
  • Increases available contracts for para-MIC vulture companies (reconstruction, mercs, resource extraction/exploitation)
  • More state authority

"No protracted war can fail to endanger the freedom of a democratic country. Not indeed that after every victory it is to be apprehended that the victorious generals will possess themselves by force of the supreme power, after the manner of Sulla and Caesar; the danger is of another kind. War does not always give over democratic communities to military government, but it must invariably and immeasurably increase the powers of civil government; it must almost compulsorily concentrate the direction of all men and the management of all things in the hands of the administration. If it does not lead to despotism by sudden violence, it prepares men for it more gently by their habits. All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and the shortest means to accomplish it. This is the first axiom of the science."
- Alexis de Tocqueville

Think for yourself's picture

Oh and you forgot to mention that in the same way that the current Syria War is both a proxy and gateway war to Iran, the current Iran War is both a proxy and gateway war to China.

Obviously, "we" want to take on the Chinese, because "we" are already doing so. That the Syria and Iran war are currently "only" fought at the black ops level (weapon smuggling, psyops destabilization operations, international propaganda, cloak and dagger operations such as assassination of gov members or state scientists, etc) as well as on the economical level does not change the fact that these already are ongoing wars.

koaj's picture

they put their countries so close to our bases. what do you expect

Iocosus's picture

You owe me a new keyboard

Ima anal sphincter's picture

+1000  In a VERY sick way, you are correct. We are everywhere. Are we the "Cause of Good"????

Why do I even ask these questions?

America......taking over the world, one country at a time. Who cares how many we kill doing it? The bankers need more of everything.

Dugald's picture

Ah yes of course, the well know Pax Americana

nonclaim's picture

plus 2 or 3 missile equiped submarines per group...

NachoLiebor's picture

Those Ohio-class SSGNs are 154 TLAMs worth of shock and awe, plus 2 Trident missle tubes full of SEAL shit.

Winston Churchill's picture

3.5 and counting.

Takes a lot of logistical plannng to have this many avaiable carriers,

usually have  a third  out for  refits.

Bush in port.

Truman at sea,could be anywhere really.

Watch this space.The Fat Lady is clearing her throat.

Obamma's internal polls must be bad.

New_Meat's picture

and of course the five-sided-puzzle-palace gives out deployment information for ALLCON to consume at face value.

And actually "Buck Stops" Group is well located, and publicly for all to see, just to keep everyone happy.  The "predictions" on this theme have been less of "possible warning order" and more of "the boyz and girlz have already transited all of them miles and are right in <<your prospective>> villian's face right now.

But then again, your comment about "takes a lot of planning" is correct.  Why would the rotation be screwed up?  Might be because of how the current Administration sees the military.

Don't cha' know.

- Ned

Uncle Remus's picture

The Fat Lady is clearing her throat


BandGap's picture

My money is on SE Asia, skirmish starts with China v. Vietnam.

ersatzteil's picture

F'n A, can't wait for another one! Maybe they'll offer unemployed college grads attractive rates on their student loans if they enlist! I can see it now: "Student Loan-backed Securities" - buy student debt - sponsor a soldier! Slap triple-A ratings on these and invest your pensions, too!

exi1ed0ne's picture

Join the Mobile Infantry and save the Galaxy. Service guarantees citizenship. Would you like to know more?

battle axe's picture

Ok, so instead of one war we can have two, that should take everyone's mind off of the economy....

Watauga's picture

If I had a dime for every time someone wrote "4 [or 3, or 2] carriers in the Persian Gulf means war," I'd be a wealthy man. 

fonzannoon's picture

I vote we all chip in and send Simon whatshisname the soveriegn superman there to report back to us what is going on.

Winston Churchill's picture

I'll go.

Payment upfront in barbarous relics required.

ihedgemyhedges's picture

You wanna get paid in 70 and 80 year old Congressmen?  I don't get it...........

Rogue Trooper's picture

+QE3... I nearly fracked the keyboard though with a mouthful of rum :O

Oldballplayer's picture

Just get them a little bit closer together....bang!

And...they're gone.

Rogue Trooper's picture

Nice... seem ironic that better music comes from darker times. One small ray of hope for us :/

Remember these... good tunes IMHO

This seems relevant again?  Let's Rock the Casbah Bitches.....

Interesting when you listen to this one now..... take from it what you will.


chump666's picture

China has Philippines/Japan and India in it's sights.  All to do with energy.  Two hot-zones: Pacific and Straits of Hormuz.  Let's see if the Fed can ignite a war, they do QE3/lite or otherwise and Asia gets hit with more inflation.  Cue war.

Right now USD/DXY spot rate and forwards is pricing out QE3

fonzannoon's picture

Wait till that GDP report Friday.

disabledvet's picture

The difference between a "show of force" and the real phucking deal is imminent. Wanna sneak peak?

max2205's picture

Not counting Grenada, we have not won a war in 80 years

Dr. Engali's picture

We haven't been in a war in 80 years. The last declared war was WWII. Anything after that was either a police action, Kinetic activity or some other silly name.

DeadFred's picture

Veterans benefits are higher for those who served in a declared war. Not many left who receive the souped up bennies. Gad it's hard writing about veterns when I have Obama's ad staring at me. What evil deed could get him to smile that way?

Uncle Remus's picture

A charlie foxtrot by any other name...

toady's picture

We haven't been a war, including Grenada, in all that time. Korea was close, but it was a UN thing.
A few 'police actions', and the current 'nation building' endeavours.

WWII was kill or be killed, hate the enemy and their way of life, kill them all warfare. Your right, we haven't seen that in a log time... Yugoslavia was / is pretty harsh.

Solon the Destroyer's picture

Has anyone seen the Navy's new advert? God shot flyover of a loaded carrier deck, and stats like 80% of the world's people live within a stone's throw of the ocean, finishing with The Navy keeping 100% of the world safe.

I wonder why they needed to come out with new propaganda, the warmongering bastards?

If the Navy starts killing civilians, which they will undoubtedly collaterally do, can they be sued for false advertizing?

What a ridiculous world. Thank god the Navy is 100% protecting this insane status quo.

GeezerGeek's picture

Hey, somebody's got to keep the peace, and it might as well be us. After all, "We're the Cops of the World". Phil Ochs: