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Spot The Naval Hot Zone

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'Things' appear to be hotting up in a couple of places around the world. While the Middle East's incessant instability only grows worse; the following clip from Stratfor sheds light on the 'discussion' that is occurring in the middle of the Pacific with the Chinese and the Phillipines over potential energy rights. Nothing to see here, move along.

 

 

And on the Chinese maritime 'excursion'...

 

And Iran and Syria...

Source: Stratfor

 

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Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:10 | 2651598 spinone
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4 carriers in the persian gulf means war

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:12 | 2651607 ACP
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I thought Thailand was the hot naval zone?

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:44 | 2651691 Son of Loki
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U prob mean the bars & nightlcubs of Pattaya as the hot navel zone.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:44 | 2651696 ihedgemyhedges
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Don't know about other guys on here, but I like the hot zone below the naval............it can get kind of hairy in some situations..........

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:02 | 2651741 AldousHuxley
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2 in hawaii means luau

 

CVN 73 going to overrun chinese floating shack which actually may be scuba diving vacation spot for spoiled sons of Chinese generals while they get their "I served in the military" stamped for future government career.

 

No war until after elections because that means higher gas prices, unless Obama's popularity sinks so bad that he needs to go to war to get votes from warmongers

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:46 | 2651995 White.Star.Line
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Aldous:

I don't remember you mentioning war in such a cheerleading fashion in your previous writings........

Have you taken this moniker by false=gain?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 09:59 | 2652934 Think for yourself
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What cheerleading? I don't see him taking any position either for or against, but only giving his assessment of the situation.

Moreover, his statement "unless Obama's popularity sinks so bad that he needs to go to war to get votes from warmongers" is far from telling us he looks upon actual war cheerleaders in a good light.

It seems that you are quick to judge, my friend.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:21 | 2651787 JoBob
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Hence the need for more haircuts on those assets.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:31 | 2651805 fnordfnordfnord
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beware the outtie!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 00:20 | 2652069 mick68
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Dumbasses will be making their jokes, assuming this is nothing, and betting long while this turns global. This is a war that amerikans will not watch on TV, it'll be outside their windows and in their streets.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 04:49 | 2652271 Popo
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I'll take the under on that. It'll be all over TV and fought over there. (Neither of which I say as a 'good thing')

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 06:18 | 2652320 neidermeyer
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There will be no war , the Philippines has no navy and we wouldn't back them anyway with the current president... It's been all over the Philippine TV (ANC and ABS/CBN) for months that they have some kind of revenue sharing areement with the Chicoms..

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 09:01 | 2652722 sessinpo
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I don't think anyone cares who has or hasn't got a navy or army. In fact, the weaker the military they have, the better. Would you want to do battle with an equal or superior opponent or a weaker one?

Anyway, I do agree with you that the Philippines is unlikely, but for different reasons. I don't think we want to take on the Chinese. A more likely situation is Syria or provoking Iran. But have inferior military compared to ours, not on technology wise but personnel wise.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 09:43 | 2652859 Think for yourself
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Would you want to do battle with an equal or superior opponent or a weaker one?

Is this a trick question? For TPTB, with an equal, of course.

  • More protracted
  • According to global power, probably more widespread as well
  • More sheeple sent to their deaths
  • According to global power, probably opens up more significant areas to dispute resource hegemony
  • Increases demand for MIC's products
  • Increases available contracts for para-MIC vulture companies (reconstruction, mercs, resource extraction/exploitation)
  • More state authority

"No protracted war can fail to endanger the freedom of a democratic country. Not indeed that after every victory it is to be apprehended that the victorious generals will possess themselves by force of the supreme power, after the manner of Sulla and Caesar; the danger is of another kind. War does not always give over democratic communities to military government, but it must invariably and immeasurably increase the powers of civil government; it must almost compulsorily concentrate the direction of all men and the management of all things in the hands of the administration. If it does not lead to despotism by sudden violence, it prepares men for it more gently by their habits. All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and the shortest means to accomplish it. This is the first axiom of the science."
- Alexis de Tocqueville
 

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 09:55 | 2652885 Think for yourself
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Oh and you forgot to mention that in the same way that the current Syria War is both a proxy and gateway war to Iran, the current Iran War is both a proxy and gateway war to China.

Obviously, "we" want to take on the Chinese, because "we" are already doing so. That the Syria and Iran war are currently "only" fought at the black ops level (weapon smuggling, psyops destabilization operations, international propaganda, cloak and dagger operations such as assassination of gov members or state scientists, etc) as well as on the economical level does not change the fact that these already are ongoing wars.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:12 | 2651610 koaj
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they put their countries so close to our bases. what do you expect

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:24 | 2651792 Iocosus
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You owe me a new keyboard

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 01:36 | 2652165 Ima anal sphincter
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+1000  In a VERY sick way, you are correct. We are everywhere. Are we the "Cause of Good"????

Why do I even ask these questions?

America......taking over the world, one country at a time. Who cares how many we kill doing it? The bankers need more of everything.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 06:04 | 2652311 Dugald
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Ah yes of course, the well know Pax Americana

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:22 | 2651640 Long-John-Silver
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It's getting crowded! Imagine this times 4 in the Gulf.

(Opens in new window)

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:47 | 2651714 nonclaim
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plus 2 or 3 missile equiped submarines per group...

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:48 | 2652000 NachoLiebor
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Those Ohio-class SSGNs are 154 TLAMs worth of shock and awe, plus 2 Trident missle tubes full of SEAL shit.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 03:32 | 2652240 Rogue Trooper
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Let's roll BitChez....

Amerrrrrrica!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:25 | 2651651 Winston Churchill
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3.5 and counting.

Takes a lot of logistical plannng to have this many avaiable carriers,

usually have  a third  out for  refits.

Bush in port.

Truman at sea,could be anywhere really.

Watch this space.The Fat Lady is clearing her throat.

Obamma's internal polls must be bad.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:54 | 2651728 New_Meat
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and of course the five-sided-puzzle-palace gives out deployment information for ALLCON to consume at face value.

And actually "Buck Stops" Group is well located, and publicly for all to see, just to keep everyone happy.  The "predictions" on this theme have been less of "possible warning order" and more of "the boyz and girlz have already transited all of them miles and are right in <<your prospective>> villian's face right now.

But then again, your comment about "takes a lot of planning" is correct.  Why would the rotation be screwed up?  Might be because of how the current Administration sees the military.

Don't cha' know.

- Ned

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:08 | 2651882 knukles
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Going for the second Nobel?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 07:55 | 2652536 Uncle Remus
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The Fat Lady is clearing her throat

Wagner?

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:28 | 2651659 BandGap
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My money is on SE Asia, skirmish starts with China v. Vietnam.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 01:59 | 2652181 ersatzteil
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F'n A, can't wait for another one! Maybe they'll offer unemployed college grads attractive rates on their student loans if they enlist! I can see it now: "Student Loan-backed Securities" - buy student debt - sponsor a soldier! Slap triple-A ratings on these and invest your pensions, too!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 08:32 | 2652635 exi1ed0ne
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Join the Mobile Infantry and save the Galaxy. Service guarantees citizenship. Would you like to know more?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 07:42 | 2652490 battle axe
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Ok, so instead of one war we can have two, that should take everyone's mind off of the economy....

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 08:02 | 2652556 Watauga
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If I had a dime for every time someone wrote "4 [or 3, or 2] carriers in the Persian Gulf means war," I'd be a wealthy man. 

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:12 | 2651609 fonzannoon
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I vote we all chip in and send Simon whatshisname the soveriegn superman there to report back to us what is going on.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:15 | 2651619 Winston Churchill
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I'll go.

Payment upfront in barbarous relics required.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:52 | 2651723 ihedgemyhedges
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You wanna get paid in 70 and 80 year old Congressmen?  I don't get it...........

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 03:41 | 2652245 Rogue Trooper
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+QE3... I nearly fracked the keyboard though with a mouthful of rum :O

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:12 | 2651611 Oldballplayer
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Just get them a little bit closer together....bang!

And...they're gone.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:21 | 2651634 chump666
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Ah Fear

Just gone back in time http://youtu.be/tVaPaJZnkaw,

 

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 03:53 | 2652250 Rogue Trooper
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Nice... seem ironic that better music comes from darker times. One small ray of hope for us :/

Remember these... good tunes IMHO

This seems relevant again?  Let's Rock the Casbah Bitches.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9r8LMU9bQ

Interesting when you listen to this one now..... take from it what you will.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqXk0mAuOXU

 

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:15 | 2651618 chump666
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China has Philippines/Japan and India in it's sights.  All to do with energy.  Two hot-zones: Pacific and Straits of Hormuz.  Let's see if the Fed can ignite a war, they do QE3/lite or otherwise and Asia gets hit with more inflation.  Cue war.

Right now USD/DXY spot rate and forwards is pricing out QE3

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:19 | 2651629 fonzannoon
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Wait till that GDP report Friday.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:18 | 2651624 disabledvet
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The difference between a "show of force" and the real phucking deal is imminent. Wanna sneak peak?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru2PWmGIoB8

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:47 | 2651710 max2205
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Not counting Grenada, we have not won a war in 80 years

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:31 | 2651947 Dr. Engali
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We haven't been in a war in 80 years. The last declared war was WWII. Anything after that was either a police action, Kinetic activity or some other silly name.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 00:11 | 2652052 DeadFred
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Veterans benefits are higher for those who served in a declared war. Not many left who receive the souped up bennies. Gad it's hard writing about veterns when I have Obama's ad staring at me. What evil deed could get him to smile that way?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 08:00 | 2652548 Uncle Remus
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A charlie foxtrot by any other name...

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:33 | 2651955 toady
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We haven't been a war, including Grenada, in all that time. Korea was close, but it was a UN thing.
A few 'police actions', and the current 'nation building' endeavours.

WWII was kill or be killed, hate the enemy and their way of life, kill them all warfare. Your right, we haven't seen that in a log time... Yugoslavia was / is pretty harsh.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:54 | 2651625 Solon the Destroyer
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Has anyone seen the Navy's new advert? God shot flyover of a loaded carrier deck, and stats like 80% of the world's people live within a stone's throw of the ocean, finishing with The Navy keeping 100% of the world safe.

I wonder why they needed to come out with new propaganda, the warmongering bastards?

If the Navy starts killing civilians, which they will undoubtedly collaterally do, can they be sued for false advertizing?

What a ridiculous world. Thank god the Navy is 100% protecting this insane status quo.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 09:09 | 2652763 GeezerGeek
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Hey, somebody's got to keep the peace, and it might as well be us. After all, "We're the Cops of the World". Phil Ochs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL0sqh06H94

 

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:19 | 2651631 Bunker Boy
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With the Obamanos, the neo-Cons, the Mahdi's and the Chi-coms all believing they are the inheritors of the world, arrogant all and armed to the teeth, what could possibly go wrong?

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:20 | 2651632 RobotTrader
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How many times has Stratfor predicted war?

 

About the same amount of times that GEAB has predicted "Imminent Collapse" of the financial markets.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:24 | 2651647 EvlTheCat
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Actually, I was think about as many times as you make bad momo calls.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:59 | 2651735 LoneStarHog
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Once again, whether it be for stocks, bonds, forex, metals, OR global politics, you post SHIT!

Stratfor has released INTELLIGENCE research and NEVER stated "imminent", because unlike your worthless ass they are smart enough to post the trends without forecasting dates.

GEAB is ditto that of Stratfor.

But then, reading sophisticated reports from Stratfor and GEAB requires certain levels of intelligence and reading comprehension.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:22 | 2651642 Paul Atreides
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Long Sunburn Missiles

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:34 | 2651809 Ineverslice
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I would like to see one of these puppies in action posted on LL minutes after deployment.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:26 | 2651652 Mr_Wonderful
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Half the fleet is in home port. Nah, I don´t think any major war is imminent.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:27 | 2651656 EvlTheCat
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Waterworld 2:  Chinese maritime 'excursion'...

"my boat......."

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:34 | 2651668 Manthong
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Doesn't anybody in the international community think China is overreaching a tad with that pitiful reef over 700 miles from the mainland?

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:35 | 2651670 JR
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Why doesn’t Stratfor go fight Iran and leave the rest of us out of it?

Isn’t the Israeli government’s communication version of the Iran situation available? Does Zero Hedge have to depend on George Friedman’s viewpoint to get the war monger version? Stratfor has been proven to be a spokesman for the American military/industrial complex and its fervent desire to add one more giant multi-slaughter war in Iran to its capital enhancement programs.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:19 | 2651914 JOYFUL
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acutely accurate observation...

it's time for some peeple to realize that a significant number of the reports on ZH(not the internally generated ones, but rather, the ones from outside, like this, and the top banner posters) are straight up disinfo.

Since it is greatly confusing to try to understand just why a beacon of truth in a sea of lies should take on the blighted bullshit of it's surroundings, think of it like bilgewater....the presence of a dose of disinfo on this site may have been a necessary quid pro quo that has been worked out between the Tylers and TPTB...the extra weight is actually keeping the ship steady in the water.

this fringe blog became a powerful thorn in the side of the bad guys some time ago, and the fireworks behind the scenes have been almost invisible to the outsider, but must have been awesome.

Steady on lads!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 00:25 | 2652075 AurorusBorealus
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The movements of American surface ships are readily available information.  Stratfor presents it neatly.  This is disinformation?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 00:46 | 2652099 JOYFUL
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information gathering and it's interpretation are two distinctly different elements of intel...strongly advise learning to distinguish between the two, so as to increase yur career options with the organs of the state.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 06:58 | 2652376 Colonial Intent
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We were taught two words, capability and intent.

Capability is what is possible and intent is what is probable, kinda like proven and probable reserves.

 

imho

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 08:04 | 2652560 Uncle Remus
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Did someone take concealed-carry class?

Sat, 07/28/2012 - 07:45 | 2658744 Colonial Intent
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In the UK thats still illegal........Unfortunately.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 09:06 | 2652743 sessinpo
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You post made me laugh because it reminded me of Rumsfeld.

"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."

 

But I get the point of your post. It just reminded me of Rumsfeld's quote. Thumbs up.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:39 | 2651681 HD
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Are you ready for hot naval zone action?!

Do you like giant carriers squeezing into a tight, wet gulf? Want to watch destroyers fire off some missiles into the face of the enemy? Want to see no-fly zones violated over and over again until they beg for mercy?

Just $720 million a day gets you all the action you can handle and much, much more. Order in your troops today.*

 

*Offer not valid in event of fiscal cliff.

 

 

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:48 | 2651839 fuu
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Please wait while your transaction completes.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:04 | 2651872 Totentänzerlied
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You forgot to mention the Sunburned sailors!

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 02:09 | 2652192 LarryDavis
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se(a)men galore

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:43 | 2651693 blunderdog
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"This NEXT gig is gonna be DYNAMITE!  Huge!  I swear!"  -- Joliet Jake

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:07 | 2651879 monad
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"Over? Did you say over? Nothing is over till we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!" ex President John Blutarsky (I) NH

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:44 | 2651698 Fix It Again Timmy
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Yeah, let's have another war and finance it with:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1942-WWII-WAR-Saving-Bonds-Album-w-12-stamps-25-...

 

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:46 | 2651706 Son of Loki
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are they still target practicing with those little boats with little brown people in them?

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:47 | 2651711 Bansters-in-my-...
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"things appear to be hotting up"
Too finny.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:55 | 2651715 earleflorida
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-seeks-return-to...

various stories have been around for awhile --- now it seems that our neo-imperialism antics want us to protect everyone in the world from natural-disasters and catastrophes! 

fuck the katrina folks and fema - lets spend our taxdollars on food-stamps for mexico and catastrophic insurance for strangers,... half the world away! Pathetic!

go USSA! 

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:58 | 2651733 Winston Churchill
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For disaster relief ?

You mean like man made/drone type one.

Two birds with one missile.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:13 | 2651775 earleflorida
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ya know, america is now totally energy independent. yet, obama has put a governor on america's prosperity. he is a warring president.

he'll get two bird's with one st[dr.]one - getting the aipac vote for syria/iran, and being a sitting president in wartime! just ask georgie`boy's... 'mission [911?] accomplished', deja` vu, all over my head?     

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 06:22 | 2652322 Dugald
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Go USSA!  Indeed.....if you could only decide on which direction and when.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 07:01 | 2652380 overmedicatedun...
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a man I know told me last night his son is due to fly out to a carrier in the gulf at 0300 that night..left conus 2 days ago..expect passage into the str of hormuz (sp) next several days. real people die when a president needs to win an election, DC is going for it, it would seem.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:01 | 2651719 OldE_Ant
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Based on that data I don't see the US going to war anytime soon.  Certianly they don't expect naval battles.  Fleet movement to asia is just a statement 'we are watching' and to support allies (Phillipines, Japan, S. Vietnam, Thailand, etc.).  The Chinese know full well the US is over extended around the world and politically no way the US public will swallow another war certianly in Asia, but they are going to lean hard being in expansionist mode now. 

As to Iran, I'm skeptical there as well.  I suspect the US will get someone else to do their dirty work, OR better they will do some 'surgical' strikes and see if the hornets come out of the nest to play.  I doubt the US would do anything alone there, but they may do something that pisses Iran off so much that Iran does attack the US in some feeble way.  That may be what they are setting up for, induce Iran to attack US presence and make it look unfounded, and particularly tragic (but no way militarily disasterous or even detrimental) so the US can get its allies into another 'quick war' in the region and take over two countries they've wanted for oil for OH SO LONG.  IRAN and IRAQ.   The bonus is oil prices rise, leading to 'real inflation' which the FED oh so desperately wants.  The problem is all inflation does is feed the deflationary scenario because less real disposable income means less economy.

I'm more of the mind now that there is no way out of a deflationary scenario, since money is not being created but destroyed by debt which is going parabolic and debt service which is not decreasing (even while interest rates have dropped by 1/2 to 1/4 previous levels in past few years).

Middle east flare up IS a concern.  To my mind an Asian conflict flareup would be a suprise and VERY BAD all around.  Even a trade war would start screwing up supply chains in the US, and production in China since just about everything in the stores is made in China now, and the Chinese are not that stupid to kill the golden goose before they've gotten all of its golden eggs!  When the US starts levying trade sanctions that really crush trade and income for China, then and only then will the Chinese get militant and take advantage of the US being over extended, and politically weak.  Yet another reason NOT to get into another conflict before we've exited the first ones.

End of Line

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:55 | 2651854 YouAreBliss
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American public tired of wars?  Look at Romney's Foreign Policy Team it's a NeoCon Zoo.

Same Bush team that brought you 2 at once!

Listen to Mittens VFW speech this week!

Don't you know the GOP position - wars never have to be funded or budgeted.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:06 | 2651878 Totentänzerlied
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That's Obummer's position, too. And FDR's, and LBJ's, and ... 

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 03:10 | 2652232 Haager
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There are Neocons active all over the board. That's why the result of the votes matter that little.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 21:50 | 2651722 Self Trader
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A remake of San Diego Fireworks 2012 ?

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:01 | 2651739 Destinapp
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I saw a 747 land at VPS/Eglin this afternoon and there is no airline that uses a 747 for civilian flights into here.  All branches of Special Forces are based out of here now, so we are deploying a 747 full of real bad asses as of tonight. 

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:02 | 2651742 JR
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In the video Stratfor, the primary U.S. propaganda arm for Israeli foreign policy, uses Israel’s claims against Iran’s involvement in the Bulgarian bombing even though no evidence has been made available.

“All the signs point to Iran,” says Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu concerning last week’s bombing in Burgas, Bulgaria. In fact, Netanyahu had declared after the bus bombing that Iran was responsible, citing recent alleged incidents in other countries, but no evidence.

Even though Israel has been using a news shaping campaign of allegations against terrorists’ actions in Baku, Tbilisi, Bangkok, and Delhi, trying to fit them into the overall narrative, no hard evidence has yet to be presented.

The Pentagon says it does not know of any assessed attribution for the Bulgaria bombing.

Israel wants the European Union to find Hezbollah to be responsible for the bombing and for the EU to label Hezbollah a terrorist organization, as has the United States. Netanyahu sent Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman to Brussels to meet EU Foreign Policy Chief Catherine Ashton and foreign ministers of nine EU member states for the task.

Still, at this time, Netanyahu has not produced evidence either linking Hezbollah or Iran to the bombings, saying only that the information has been shared with “friendly agencies.”

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:09 | 2651762 Yes_Questions
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the gulf of Aden?

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:12 | 2651772 lolmao500
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9423537/Syria...

- Japan’s claim to Okinawa disputed by influential Chinese commentators

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/influential-chinese-com...

- Barak: Nuclear Iran far more dangerous than preemptive Israeli strike

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/barak-nuclear-iran-far-mor...

- Iran warns U.S. to face 'teeth-breaking' response if cyber attacks continue

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/iran-warns-u-s-to-face-teeth-bre...

- Attack on Syrian chemical stockpiles could lead to 'broader campaign,' says IDF Chief of Staff

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/attack-on-syrian-chemical-...

- Leaders pan Nagorno-Karabakh elections

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Leaders_pan_Nagorno-Karabakh_elections_9...

- N. Korea puts attack choppers near border: reports

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/N_Korea_puts_attack_choppers_near_bord...

- N.Korea's New Hovercraft Base Near Completion (it is completed)

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/05/30/2011053000933.html

- S. Korea, U.S. to conduct joint military exercise in late Aug.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2012/07/23/0200000000AEN20120723002...

- China to deploy military garrison in new city in Spratlys

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/266282/news/nation/china-to-deploy-...

- China’s South China Sea Fishing Fleet: How Far Will It Go?

http://chinabystander.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/chinas-south-china-sea-fi...

The Chinese aircraft carrier will go live on August 1.

- U.S., Poland Work on SM-3 Interceptors Deployment - Pentagon

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120726/174782217.html

- Russian Arms Ship Loads up with New Secret Cargo

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120724/174757466.html

 

And for the dumbass of the day :

Obama: AK-47s belong on battlefield, not streets

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/07/obama-aks-belong-on-battlefie...

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:16 | 2651781 earleflorida
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thankyou for the links :-))

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:49 | 2651845 JR
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Is it just me or am I overlooking the news reports from the Iranian side of the question?

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:36 | 2651965 lolmao500
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Well...

- Iran General: Reprisals Await 'Arabs' Over Syria

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/iran-warns-arabs-syria-int...

- Gasmasks in demand as Israel tracks Syria chemical arms

http://news.yahoo.com/gasmasks-demand-israel-tracks-syria-chemical-arms-...

- Iranian Mouthpiece Media Calls on Syria to Attack Israel

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/245686#.UBC5oKPFA0o

- Israel orders demolition of 8 Palestinian villages for IDF training sites

Israel’s Defense Ministry has ordered eight Palestinian villages in the West Bank to be razed, claiming the land is needed for military training. Hundreds of Palestinians are to be displaced despite evidence that the villages have existed since 1830.

http://www.rt.com/news/israel-demolish-palestinian-west-860/

- Jordan Strengthening Border Troop Presence

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/245626#.UBC5eaPFA0p

- Rebels say Assad moved chemical weapons to border

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4259622,00.html

- TSA now searches your smartphones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLsTL2c-C7c

- TSA Begin Operations At CA Bus Terminals and Train Stations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrwHE3kEjdc

- Bloomberg: Police Officers Should Not Protect Americans Until Strict Gun Control Is Enacted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFMMB_sqT6Q

- Iran Pledges to Deploy Warships in the Atlantic

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/iran-pledges-deploy-warships-atlantic

- Big Russian fleet nears Syria. Iran to fight regime change as foreign forces pile up

http://www.debka.com/article/22209/Big-Russian-fleet-nears-Syria-Iran-to...

- Turkey Closes All Borders with Syria

http://en.rian.ru/world/20120725/174768362.html

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:14 | 2651904 JR
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I would like to comment on your link to the article, Russian Arms Ship Loads Up With New Secret Cargo, which states: “The U.S. Congress voted to break off all contacts with Russia's state arms corporation Rosoboronexport on Thursday over concerns about Russia continuing to supply arms to Syria. Russia has maintained it is only fulfilling contracts signed before the current wave of unrest in Syria, and said last week it will not supply a batch of Yak-130 advanced jet trainers to Damascus.”

The neocon/neolib group of government plotters that dictate world compliance to the supremacy of the bankers who are planning the “planetary unification of despotism” fear Russian President Vladimir Putin as they consider him a dangerous adversary to their world financial plans.

As outlined in the article “Eurasian Project a Threat to New World Order,” the globalists see Putin’s vision of “a new integration project for Eurasia” - his 2011 paper on the “future in the making” -  as an attack on its global position of  “political redemption of the world through global governance.”

The vicious attacks on the Russian president have been forthcoming in the controlled MSM to bias public opinion against him. Putin, an Orthodox Christian who regularly makes church appearances, has publicly stated he is a Christian which also goes against the multireligion concept of their “multiculturalism.” In fact, according to reports, “the BBC has published a major article with pictures of Vladimir Putin’s Orthodox Christian affiliations.”

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:25 | 2651929 lolmao500
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Totally agree.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:22 | 2651790 Mr_Wonderful
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Iranian nuclear facilities have reportedly been attacked by a “music” virus, turning on lab PCs at night and blasting AC/DC’s “Thunderstruck.”

Mikko Hypponen, Chief Researcher at Finnish digital security firm F-secure, publicly released a letter he received from an unnamed Iranian scientist. The researcher, who claimed to work for the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI), said that another virus has struck the Natanz uranium enrichment facility in central Iran and a secret underground research facility at Fordo, southwest of Tehran.

The letter’s author reported that the virus shut down equipment (made by Germany’s Siemens Corporation) and automated systems at both research centers.

Hypponen published the letter on his blog, but cautioned that there is no way for him to verify the accusations. He was able to confirm, however, that the letter did originate from the AEOI’s servers.

http://refreshingnews99.blogspot.in/2012/07/iranian-nuclear-facilities-h...

 

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:39 | 2651817 GoinFawr
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Whoa. That tune is under copyright isn't it? I certainly hope that Iran didn't sign on to ACTA or they might be in for some real trouble.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:27 | 2651933 Ineverslice
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Turn it up!

Now if they Justin Beibered me, i'd melt the plant down.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 22:46 | 2651835 GlomarHabu
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Standby for thr CIC to go Presidential and attack,attack,attack ... attack what you ask? .....doesn't matter November looms.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:05 | 2651876 q99x2
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I learned in my Geography class that Suadi Arabia has 20% of the world's oil. Iraq has 9% and Iran has 10%. I wonder why the US would want to invade Iran?

Hey but listen to this. The largest untapped oil reserves are in the South China Sea and China may want claim the rights to those reserves.

Anyhow who's going to pay for all this UN oil grabbing when the world economy has already started to implode?

I'm not.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 00:37 | 2652091 DeadFred
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You will if the guys with the guns say you will, unless you want to make good friends with your new roommate Jojo.

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 23:12 | 2651893 jonjon831983
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So, another great arms show coming up?  Show some demos and line up the buyers?

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 00:18 | 2652061 Nachdenken
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War and the threat of war are ancient forms of territorial expansion for security, wealth, (high return on low value human capital), destabilisation of existing or potential external power centres, and a means of forcing and consolidating structures for internal and external control.

The contemporary pattern of war is not only by conventional arms on land and sea, but also through economic and scientific aggression which are less easy to discern, or discuss.  We are no longer ignorant in many ways, and faster broader communication through this media, for instance, has allowed a wide exchange of ideas and alternative perspectives on events over time. 

The levers of power do not allow any real challange to established structures.  We can rant and rave and shake our verbal fists at the interests that have, and can continue to dictate those who are choiceless, who are trapped in a tight cycle of survival. 

It is no conspiracy, it is the bureaucracy that rules us everywhere.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 01:41 | 2652170 Negro Primero
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"Nothing to see here, move along." < +100

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 02:10 | 2652194 CustomersMan
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USS Enterprise in Persian Gulf: Pay attention to a potential attack by Israel to be blamed on IRAN, while everyone is watching the Olympics. Similar to their attack through Georgia on S. Ossettia during the 2008 China Olympics that triggered a Russian response.

Thanks Russia.

There have been several reports of a barely re-furbished U.S.S. Enterprise, placed in the Gulf out of mothballs, with the sole purpose of being a target that could be sunk and blamed on IRAN.

 

Of course you know that if Israel can pull all the scams in every other area around the globe, they can certainly get or make counterfeit weapons with Iran's name on them.

 

Similar to when Israel fired that N. Korean torpedo at a S. Korea military ship, killing many and designed to get us into a N. vs S. Korea military confrontation. They wanted everyone to blame N. Korea for the attack.

Not sure how a staged attack on the Enterprise could be accomplished without killing a lot of our men, but the Zionist Media Cabal - (ZMC) stands ready to blame Iran, just like they did with the Bulgaria Bus Bombing. If American men die, according to them so be it, we are less than cattle according to the Talmud racist religious books.

 

They count on immediate and convincing "experts" , spokesmen and "owned Congressmen and leading Politicians" to saturate the airwaves with their blame game and then initiating an attack from America before anyone can substantiate the claims.

 

Nasty. Reminds me of how they had videos showing Palestinians celebrating when the towers fell.

 

The Palestinians never did any such thing. They were completely innocent but sat on Lands the Zio's coveted.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 03:14 | 2652234 TheObsoleteMan
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Customersman: The USS Enterprise was never in the "Mothball Fleet", she has been in the active fleet since the 1960s. She was due to be decommissioned very soon, but it looks like that has been put on hold for the time being. She is still as battle ready as ever.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 02:42 | 2652210 zilverreiger
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yankee go home.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 02:56 | 2652217 Johnk
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You know, Grenada has been a little uppity lately...just sayin'

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 10:52 | 2652231 TheObsoleteMan
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Pacific: How long before the flips beg us to return to Subic Bay? How long before the Vietnamese ask us to return to Cam Rahn Bay? Funny how the more things change, the more they stay the same. China's next play will be for Taiwan.

 

Middle East: I would not be so quick to declare an end to Assad. Russia {and China to a lesser extent} is not to keen on his departure. I suspect Putin will become much more involved very soon, as this is a direct threat to the Caspian. This is beginning to look very similar to 1854.  Watch out for al Sadr's militia, Iran is already stirring the pot in Iraq. Hezbollah CAN be counted on by Iran, so can the other sponsored groups: Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, etc. Hitlery got a less than warm welcome when she was in Cairo recently, this was played down in the western press. I think the western nations are underestimating their opponents, and are overplaying their hand, it is not as strong as they think it is. They are making a number of miscalculations.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 04:08 | 2652255 silverdragon
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China is just negotiating, might is right, they will get most of the goodies in the Spratleys and give some scraps to the Vietnamese and the Philipinos. The west will let it happen as long as the Chinese let the western oil companies get their bit of the pie, which China will do.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 06:11 | 2652316 awakening
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No matter what these ships get up to, at least we can thank Obama for giving us a clear conscience.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2...

(image shamelessly cloned from here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-you-didn%E2%80%99t-build ).

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 08:14 | 2652587 Watauga
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Three nations stand to benefit most from a war in the Middle East:  Russia, which sees a bleak future with oil under $100 per barrel; Israel, which sees a bleak future if Iran obtains an effective nuclear threat; and Saudi Arabia, which sees a bleak future if Iran continues to gain power.  Of these three, the most likely culprit in creating the circumstances by which war can be a viable option is Russia, as there is simply nothing to constrain Putin's ambitions.  The U.S. constrains Israel and Saudi Arabia.  That said, Israel is very good at covert operations and also is willing to give Obama the finger if it deems war an effective alternative to watching Iran develop the weapons technology to destroy Israel altogether.

Additionally, the presence of multiple U.S. carriers in the Arabian Gulf and Arabian Sea is common, and it does not "mean war."  If anyone thinks that the U.S. is going to manipulate events so that the ENTERPRISE is sunk, he is insane.  That would destroy Obama politically, the military would not abide it, and in such a case, the truth would come out and take down anyone remotely involved.  I know the U.S. Navy pretty well after 28 years of service, and I can guarantee you that sinking the ENTERPRISE is NOT part of a U.S. false-flag operation.  To think that it is, is simple insane.  Finally, the ENTERPRISE was not taken out of mothballs.  Are you serious? 

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 09:48 | 2652879 swmnguy
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Something about American Citizenism.

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 09:59 | 2652945 warezdog
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If we go to war with China we'll have no choice but to win because there is now way in hell we're going to be able to pay them back.

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