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Steve Jobs Has Passed Away (1955-2011)

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Steve Jobs has passed away, according to Apple. May the greatest one man success story of our times rest in peace.

Statement by the Apple board:

We are deeply saddened to announce that Steve Jobs passed away today.


Steve’s brilliance, passion and energy were the source of countless innovations that enrich and improve all of our lives. The world is immeasurably better because of Steve.


His greatest love was for his wife, Laurene, and his family. Our hearts go out to them and to all who were touched by his extraordinary gifts.

And from his family:

Steve died peacefully today surrounded by his family.


In his public life, Steve was known as a visionary; in his private life, he cherished his family. We are thankful to the many people who have shared their wishes and prayers during the last year of Steve's illness; a website will be provided for those who wish to offer tributes and memories.


We are grateful for the support and kindness of those who share our feelings for Steve. We know many of you will mourn with us, and we ask that you respect our privacy during our time of grief.

To capture the visionary genius of the man, and truly the legend, we repost probably the most comprehensive interview that Jobs ever conducted, this one with Playboy magazine from 1985

Playboy Interview With Steve Jobs


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Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:41 | 1743388 LongBallsShortBrains
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Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:42 | 1743408 Pladizow
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I guess an apple a day does'nt keep the doctor away!

Oh, IBummer - Nice Sack!

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:45 | 1743427 bob_dabolina
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Too soon, not cool

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:51 | 1743467 Roger O. Thornhill
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Bought my first Mac in 1984. $ 2,700 bucks back then.

Few people, I would say, actually did something worthwhile. Made some amazing ideas mainstream, from GUI interface to real, high quality, typography, etc. etc. Brought actual value to the world - not just a sick, twisted money shuffler - the man produced real assets. He deserved every penny he made.


Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:09 | 1743568 mkkby
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Now we know why they delayed announcing a new iphone yesterday.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:25 | 1743613 Bananamerican
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I'm the most anti-corporate fellow you'll ever meet, and i can't imagine ever saying this about ANY other CEO ever again...

I already miss the guy.

Perfect? No. But "who among us..."

You have to recognize the man WAS a dreamer and that he DID change our world, on balance, for the better.

How many of you made your living, directly or indirectly, using his products?

I did.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:26 | 1743639 Arius
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it is the END of an ERA .... its almost like the stars are aligned ... it coincides unfortunately w/ Wall street protests and tea parties who would like to change the world.... unemployment .... when we need him most he is leaving us - really unfortunate .... the end of an era ...

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:31 | 1743662 duo
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There's always that Starbucks guy....

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:43 | 1743896 Ahmeexnal
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This should give FAZ a double digit green tomorrow.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:01 | 1743931 anynonmous
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Now we know why they delayed announcing a new iphone yesterday.


A marketer to the end (or those who wished to exploit), too bad about the violations of privacy, tracking and all the other police state dynamics that Apple has facilitated.  Steve wasn't evil but remove the St and what do you have.... sssssssssssss

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:05 | 1743938 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Wow that is fucking brilliant. 

Just so you know, I am going to start using that.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:10 | 1743951 Cheesy Bastard
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Hopefully Steve was one of the Jobs that was created and saved. RIP.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:53 | 1744025 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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(St)Eve sold out and ate the apple.  He is a corporate whore.  He did no good for our society, and in fact worsened it by hiring slave labor to make the goods (apple is NAFTA's bitch) thusly bankrupting Americans because they are so disillusioned by the magic of apple they go go bankrupt by being in debt to this asinine corporate image of our given society, created by none other than....Eve Jobs! 

You are all slaves to the system unless you realize this.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:04 | 1744054 Fish Gone Bad
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I admired Steve Jobs and will miss him.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:14 | 1744083 Mr. Mandelbrot
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So, do the ends justify the means now?!! The guy was a visionary, but morally and socially a rotten apple. Do we praise Hitler for the autobahn system and Voltzwagen? No, his means render his ends unappreciable. We're a morally bankrupt society that makes Jobs, Buffet, Blankfein, Dimon, etc our heroes. Sad . . .

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:19 | 1744094 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Stolkholm syndrome is real.  Love your captors, bitchez.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:07 | 1744186 Oh regional Indian
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Seriously LH, Jobs was a pied piper. Of bad technology. He was a trans-humanist who could not be kept alive by them, strange, I thought they would Borg him out just to keep him going.

If any of his acolytes need one SYmbol of how he destroyed people, it's those White Ear Buds, driving the world deaf one iPod at a time.

He was a caricature of what our heores are meant to be in this twisted place.

I hope he is pushing a rock up a hill, wherever he is.


Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:29 | 1744249 Race Car Driver
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+ rocks


"Mac killed my inner child."

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:33 | 1744262 philgramm
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I am sure you realize the irony in the fact that you are sitting at a computer writing your diatribe.  It may be a PC instead of a Mac in which case you'll be writing the same hateful things about Gates when he dies, all the while benefiting from the products they created.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:05 | 1744341 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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We don't need technology:  Technology needs us.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:50 | 1744385 Arkadaba
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Stupid. Wish I could change the font. You guys are being stupid. My first computer was a Mac where I learnt how to create a web page and figured out some system scripting stuff. I don't idolize the guy but Steve Jobs made a difference. Not like you typing away and using a gui that would not have happened except for people like Mr. Jobs.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:56 | 1744390 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You are swimming in circles, and you are bound to drown.  Yet you think you are special because your noble teacher Eve who ate the apple Jobs gave you a pointless task of doing some stupid thing.  What good did you create?  Do you feel better about yourself?  Does your life have purpose now?  Run along, and play with the other kids.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 02:43 | 1744429 Arkadaba
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I know how to swim and even tread water. Bigger question - what did you do?

Btw I actually like most of your comments that I've seen over the past few years - reacting to some inanity I'm seeing regarding this particular person. Sorry but he made stuff and did create jobs. Did he eventually outsource them - yes. Is he a Christian? I don't care. What party did he contribute to - probably both.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 02:21 | 1744427 Christophe2
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@"Stupid": You are no smarter, certainly.


It's a rigged game and an oligarchy.  People who are connected (eg: free masons) are insanely advantaged over the rest, just like the children of vastly wealthy people are also hugely advantaged.  I don't think Steve Jobs succeeded against all odds: he sold out to the system, and hence was able to succeed.


Here's what sucks about Jobs, Gates and the rest: they lead dysfunctional companies (everyone undermining one another from within) and they owe their success largely on lack of competition (eg: patents) and on propaganda / mind control to get sales (Jobs) or abusive monopolies (Gates).  Furthermore, their success comes from the engineers and designers far more than it does from the CEO.


More to the point, why is Mohamed Ali considered the best athlete of the 20th century, bar none?  Because the guy has a conscience, because he fought the system, because he was 'real'.  Steve Jobs is a puke who was most certainly part of the secret societies, an industrialist who didn't hesitate to take advantage of slave labor to make a faster buck, even though he was already a gazillionaire who didn't particularly need the money.  He was evidently one of the chiefs of the corporations that are making our lives hell, but we should regret his passing because he made pretty machines?  Screw him.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 08:44 | 1744871 BigJim
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...Stupid. Wish I could change the font. You guys are being stupid. My first computer was a Mac where I learnt how to create a web page and figured out some system scripting stuff. I don't idolize the guy but Steve Jobs made a difference. Not like you typing away and using a gui that would not have happened except for people like Mr. Jobs.

Jobs and Gates were/are great businessmen, but neither of them were great engineers, coders, or designers. It's impossible to say what our world would be like with people like Gates and Jobs because our current economic /legal system encourages people like them to get to the top. Furthermore, without all the IP law that protects their products from competition, it's arguable that the system actually retards technological progress.

PS - Apple didn't invent the GUI. Try Xerox Parc.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 02:31 | 1744433 saiybat
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I use Linux. When Gates dies he'll get his wish of population control. It's too bad he doesn't off himself to set an example for the overpopulation ideologues to follow. Really, I'm not being vindictive; people should practice what they preach instead of seeking to impose it on others.

I don't have a problem with Steve Jobs but I never used his products.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 07:19 | 1744655 krypplephite
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Bill Gates didn't create the PC.

I'm no Apple fanboy, but it's safe to say that Gates has been Salieri to Jobs Mozart.

That said, the curated computing experience of iOS is built for retards.

Jobs success was understanding how to apeal to your inner retard with a never ending cycle of shiny objects and planned obsolesence.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:55 | 1744318 epwpixieq-1
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Only if he had only known that there is a cure for cancer, he could have been saved:

maybe then he would have decided to work not only for his personal visionary plesure and the business but allso for improving the lives of The People.

Rest in peace.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 05:43 | 1744550 Monedas
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Steve Jobs RIP !  Monedas 2011    Michael Moore is to Capitalism and Freedom......what the FDA and the Texas State Board of Medical Examiners are to Dr. Stanislaw Burzinski and his Neoplastons ! Monedas wonders if Neoplastons could cure Michael Moores's Socialist cancer ?

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 01:49 | 1754149 Bananamerican
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that seems more like an infomercial than a documentary....

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:49 | 1744154 chindit13
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Does your morality extend to feeling sympathy for the slaves who mined much of the gold and silver you worship?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:17 | 1744216 Bolweevil
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I wrestle with that one often. Are there no sound investments free from the taint of immorality or ethics?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:32 | 1744260 wisefool
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It starts with making sure the head of the tax collection agency is not a tax cheat.

Let me know when can work on the next steps.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:51 | 1744358 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Half of the gold above ground was mined before 1900.  The amount mined since I started buying is marginal.  In no way is buying gold perpetuating slavery.  You just gave one of the worst arguements in the history of arguements. 

Buying gold now is so fractional considering our move against the FIAT PONZI that we are justified.  And if the people end up with the gold instead of institutions then we can end this FIAT PONZI.  I say this is a great goal.

You are against us.  I wonder why. 

I am trying to end the system, and I found a loophole.  We take the PM, they can't short it.  They can't short it, and the dollar loses its value.  No more dollar, no more US military.  Then no more war.  Why don't you know this?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 06:09 | 1744528 chindit13
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Since we are using superlatives, you just gave one of the best rationalizations in the history of rationalizations.

No doubt your gold is "ethically mined" and your sole reason for buying it is to end war, but a whole lot of the gold out there was mined by slaves or under horrendous conditions, pre and post 1900.

Ever been to a gold mine?  Post apartheid SA gold mines are better than apartheid mines, but they still ain't pretty.  The mines I have visited, where China is the producer, are filled with folks making less than a dollar a day for twelve hours work, much of which is hand kneading mercury through the excavated gold-bearing soil.  "Mad as a hatter" is not just a cute phrase.  Other of the mines use cyanide as a recovery agent.  A good many people die on site.  Ground water around the sites is poisonous, rivers are polluted, and the open pit mines scar the countryside.  These mines have been in operation for a while, so some of the product could well have found its way to your local coin shop or online dealer.

But that gold sure is purty, and hey, owning it ends wars.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 08:34 | 1744837 BigJim
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The Chinese government buys all their domestically-produced gold. So unless Mr. Lennon Hendrix is Chinese, chances are pretty good he owns no recently-mined Chinese gold.

As for the South African miners - they do the job because it pays them better than other employment opportunities in Africa. But feel free to set up a company in South Africa paying higher wages yourself.

Let's apply the argument that we should eschew gold ownership because in the past, vast amounts of gold were mined by slaves. Have a look around you - that can be said of anything older than a few hundred years. Should we stop using a Roman road because it was made by slaves? Should we throw out all our antiques because the exotic hardwood was almost certainly cut by slaves, and the cabinetmakers who shaped it consumed slave-produced sugar?

What a sanctimonious twat you are.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:20 | 1744996 chindit13
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I'm talking about Chinese mining of gold in Burma. The Chinese government does not buy/keep all of this production.  It goes elsewhere.  It goes global.

I did not start the sanctimony.  I did try to point out the hypocrisy of this guy's statement.  Also, he tried to make a claim that his gold buying helps weaken the "system", the dollar, and eventually the military, i.e., it's altruistic.  Well, if his buying of gold can end wars, then his buying of gold certainly can help drive up the price of something which then encourages the kind of mining I see here.

Why didn't you address your "because it pays them better than other employment opportunities in Africa" to the other poster, albeit replace Africa with China?

Finally, you don't know diddly about what I'm doing to improve anyone's lot in life, so feel free to bugger off.


Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:43 | 1745514 BigJim
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Oh, Burma? According to wiki (, Burma produced 100 kg of gold... out of a total of 2,310,000... or, roughly 0.0043% of world production.

That was back in 2006... perhaps their production has expanded by several orders of magnitude since then? If not, then chances are still good to excellent that Mr. Lennon Hendrix has no Chinese/Burmese gold.

And no, I don't know diddly about what you're doing to improve anyone's lot in life, apart from sanctimonious online advisings concerning the putative evils of PM ownership.

But do tell.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 11:34 | 1745856 chindit13
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While I am sure Wiki is the be-all and end-all expert on everything everywhere, I haven’t seen too many of their people here over the last few years.  Besides that, the junta here tends to be rather closed mouth, so I doubt they report to the WGC or anyone else.
As for increased production, it has exploded since gold popped $1000.  Additional millions of acres have been opened up to Chinese mining interests, and the entire landscape of the northeast part of the country has been altered.  Tens of thousands of people have been displaced, and one sees a "whole lot of shaking going on" in the mining areas as a result of the effects of Hg.  When I see nuggets that would make an Aussie envious, or see geological reports that show 15ppm on large tracts of land, I’ll bet the production is pretty high.  Certainly the monies generated have fueled a property bubble of astonishing proportions, though other factors have had an impact.

I’m not the one spouting the PC line or lambasting anyone for buying Pms per se, but I did point out the inconsistency of that guy’s argument.  I am well aware that steering clear of somebody’s abuse or misfortune in this world is nigh on impossible.  As I noted before, you might well have used your SA argument against Lennon and his China concerns, but I suspect your ire stems from my mentioning Pms in less than God-like light.   

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 11:01 | 1745598 BigJim
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I see Burma also produces copper at great cost to their environment. I guess we'd better all stop using electricity as it may have come to us via some of that 'global' Burmese copper.... or over recycled copper produced hundreds of years ago by slaves.

Hey look... they produce paper, too! Isn't that the stuff our currency is made from? Maybe we should be using PMs. Oh wait, no, that is ethically hazardous too. Apparently.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:57 | 1744393 IQ 101
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Their is no Apple in the book of Genesis, you halfwit dickwang.


Thu, 10/06/2011 - 05:06 | 1744527 pufferfish
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Dont hate the 'playa'. Like ant business of that size, could afford not to out source labour. It'll have taken more than one company to have supported the US job market.

Also, you need to be an animal/sociopath to be a CEO of any multinational. Again, the free market economy creates positions for people of this nature. 

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:32 | 1743986 flacon
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AAPL should be fun to watch tomorrow. Let's see people put their money where their mouth is. And isn't it high time for a Free Market correction for the major markets? Perhaps this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. The poop is overflowing the toilet - it is time for a FLUSH. 

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:44 | 1744004 erg
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Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:23 | 1744103 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Steve Jobs was evil. He was an innovator, but he stole, ditched kids that he wouldn't claim, and has a private Apple security gestapo that would make Hitler blush! He was a true leader, and had charisma that we could only dream to understand, but he failed in this life on how he approached and treated other human beings. Contrast him to the other Steve of Apple, and what he did with his life, and the Woz is the person to look at an example. But..... may he rest in peace now. 

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:59 | 1744171 wisefool
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mostly correct. But if you want proof, look at the tax code. As others have mentioned, the "Titans" of our age are really just cleptocrats. Jobs and gates stole DOS and windows from far better engineers. Buffet sucked the government teet just like Bill parents did.

And all of this would have been fine except they double tapped us by forming the tax code in their image, including the girl jobs had a kid with who got welfare cause he wasn't confident enough to be a parent. And Nancy Pelosi being the "liberal" voice of APPL share expatriatied taxes ownership.

Flat freaking tax. No More "heroes"

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:00 | 1744172 sun tzu
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Jealous much?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 07:17 | 1744651 Tompooz
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Both Steve Jobs and Woz are my hero's. The Apple ][e brought computing to the home, mine included. I have lovingly kept it until this day, including an enormous 5Mb external harddrive.

Today it gets a place of honour.. 

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:01 | 1743935 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Na, you have to give that move three days, because Steve Jobs was Jesus and he saved the world from war, poverty, and hunger with all of his worthless shit gadgets.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:24 | 1743972 imaginalis
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Fucking Grate

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:16 | 1744089 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Eve Jobes is today's Rockefeller, it's just that Rockefeller didn't have "Danzig with the Starz" to brainwash everybody into thinking he did some greater good for humanity by inventing a bunch of ways to play video games.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 02:54 | 1744446 Arkadaba
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At 23;16 you posted a comment. Communicating with others in a way that was not available 30 years ago - how did it happen.  Progress - maybe ... seeing comments like this - not so much.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:06 | 1744053 erg
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I wonder how old this technology really is. They roll it out slowly to acclimatize us to its existence. What's even better is that they talk us into paying money for the privilege to be tracked. You pay for your own bug.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:21 | 1744099 Milestones
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Absolutely!! kill the messenger!! Better think your comment thru.    Milestones

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 04:11 | 1744493 Arkadaba
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Whatever! Deal with it or get offline. (PS - tons of ways to protect yourself online if you are willing to do a little research)

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:54 | 1744388 Michael
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That's too bad.

Steve Jobs imported some great Chinese electronics.

I'd give my left nut to be able to buy an Apple product made in the USA.

Think Different

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:54 | 1743759 myne
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While I appreciate the sentiment that this man was indeed amazingly creative with some truly excellent and accessible products, your statement suggests that he could have helped the current situation.

While this is possible, it doesn't seem to be something he particularly cared about.

Business wise, he was as ruthless as the best. Answer one single question and you'll see this. Where are apple products produced?

Nonetheless, it is sad to see someone so vibrant pass away in an age where many outlive their relevence.

I may not agree with his methodology, but I do respect his ability. I suspect many would agree.


Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:58 | 1743768 PivotalTrades
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They were made the only place they could be made, away from the unions.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:15 | 1743813 Mauibrad
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That dude was the best.  We sure could use more Steve Jobs'.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:26 | 1743849 LetThemEatRand
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They were made the only place they could be made to maximize profit for the top because short-term profit for the top 1% is more important than a long-term healthy economy, away from the unions.


There, fixed it for you.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:37 | 1743876 TruthInSunshine
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My condolences to the Jobs family.

Losing a loved one in the physical world is one of life's most difficult ordeals, and there is no script or manual for how to deal with it.

May the road rise to meet you,
May the wind be always at your back,
May the sun shine warm upon your face,
The rains fall soft upon your fields and,
Until we meet again,
May God hold you in the palm of His hand.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:51 | 1743913 FEDbuster
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Great Visionary, great products, but I have a big problem with the actual production.  There was only one BIG reason iproducts were made in the PRC, bigger profits at the expense of the American worker.  Forget the unions, go to a right to work state.  Had Jobs produced his iproducts in the US, I would have ranked him up with Edison and Ford.  I wonder if the 200K+ workers at Foxconn will take a moment of silence for him?

He will be missed, and at 56 years old, was taken too early.  RIP

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:02 | 1744048 DoChenRollingBearing
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Damn right above two "Fed" guys.  RIP.  A genius lost.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:40 | 1744133 prole
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FEDBUSTER: Boeing tried that. It does not work. IT DOES NOT WORK.
Manufacture in PRC or be non-competitive or straight-up shut down by the feds. Don't believe me ask the guitar man.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:48 | 1744012 Blankman
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They were made the only place they could be made to maximize profit for the top because short-term profit for the top 1% is more important than a long-term healthy economy, away from the unions who will lie cheat and steal as much as the large corporate whores to rob the little foool who believes the unions actually are looking out for them while they are busy paying themselves (the union bosses) 5x's what the average working stiff gets paid.  If you dont believe me find out how much your local BA gets paid and compare it to your earnings.  


there fixed it for you


Sorry it is the small businessman who gets fucked over more than anyone by the unions and large corps (apple helped foster many small businesses (allowed access to products) unlike their nearest competitor).  Steve Jobs was a dreamer who built great products and had amazing ideas which fostered more and more intelligence than a fool like you could ever comprehend.  Yes he had to make profit but put yourself in his shoes and would you give away all your money to the fools who ask for a hand out (aka the unions or dopes who think they should be paid 1 million a year just because they said so) or would you send it offshore.  I am definitely not a NAFTA guy but get honest with yourself LETTHEMEATRAND your just a jealous ass.  He was worth billions and you are not worth as much as he paid for his shoes.  Sorry to be so blunt but I am sick of this shit  It is like repub vs dem you are missing the the underlying fight.  He was an innovator who many businesses tried to squash through regulations and political heavy handedness.  

RIP innovator.   

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:05 | 1744057 LetThemEatRand
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There is nothing more horrible than the murder of beautiful theory by a gang of facts."  Thus, the personal attacks.  That's the best you've got?  Really?   Being attacked by a Rand worshiper is an honor and a privilege.   Ironically, I am a small business owner.  I would bet a piece of my anatomy that you are not.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:33 | 1744122 Blankman
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I will one up you partner.  I am a small business owner who is also unionized (hence the antiunion sentiment)  Go on your play next card.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:44 | 1744137 LetThemEatRand
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You have anti-union sentiment because you subscribe to the Rand ideology which means you believe that you are morally superior to and more deserving of success than those who work for you.  I have tried and I realized long ago that there is no explaining this issue to the likes of you.  Some day you will understand if something bad happens to you (narcissists only respond to that which affects them personally), or you will never understand.  It doesn't matter.  My comment is not for you because you are incapable of seeing beyond yourself.  Others who read here may learn something, I hope.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:02 | 1744177 Blankman
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I have anti union sentinment because I understand who they truly represent and what they actually stand for - helping themselves to a feast they were not invited to.  Is your smalll business unionized?  Mine is.  Our union BA makes ~150k a year (+ lifetime medical, plus 2x's pension, plus ~25k credit card for his business use yearly) our average unioinized guy makes ~35 to 40k a year.  Don't give me this disparity bullshit.  I see it every day.  THe union guy makes more than I do and I own the fucking thing.


I have never read Ayn Rand however I do know a little something about Joseph Campbell who I feel is the moral equivalent of a modern day prophet in these days.  


I tell all my guys who work with us - Do not to have loyalty to our company, do not have loyalty to the union... have loyalty to yourself and your family thats it.  The union will fuck you over at any chance and yes LETTHEMEAT RAND I may eventually do the same.  So I truly do hope they listen to my "narcissistic" advice.  


By the way did you mention whether your company was unionized?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:12 | 1744201 LetThemEatRand
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My company is not unionized.   I suspect that there is a lot more to your story than you have disclosed.  If you are not enjoying your business, get you of it and go do something you enjoy and/or that is more profitable.  If as you claim you have employees that 1) do not pull their weight, and 2) do nothing of value, and 3) make more money than you, then you are a complete idiot and a bad businessman/woman and you should look in the mirror at why you are such a failure rather than blaming others.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:16 | 1744213 Blankman
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I said nothing of the sort of my employees making more than me.  I said the union guys make more than me.  Unionize your company and after ~two years you will understand that it is no longer you who runs your business.  Yes this is demoralizing and yes we are looking and planning to move to another state to eliminate our (unioin) problem. 

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:27 | 1744245 LetThemEatRand
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If you don't like having employees, don't hire them.    Perhaps your hiring skills suck.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:28 | 1744247 Blankman
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LTER - As for such a failure we have been in business for 4 years and each year we have doubled sales each year in a primarily service (engineering) industry.  I do not come from money and have had no help except my own persistence to guide me.


As for our guys they are top notch and we have managed to beat out some stong, heavily entrenched (and heavily contributing to the right people) competition mainly thanks to the knowledge of our guys.  In my industry word gets around quick if your guys don't know shit about what they are doing.  

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:34 | 1744265 LetThemEatRand
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Then obviously all of those horrible union employees you are complaining about have actually done well by you.  Maybe tone it down a bit on the greed and focus on the success you have enjoyed.  Why leave your state out of spite because some of your workers who helped build your business want to share in the success?  I suppose it's probably because you have a GIGANTIC ego and you believe that you deserve more than you've gotten despite the reality that you couldn't do it alone.   I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that you would make even more money if you lost the attitude and shared your successes more voluntarily.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 03:10 | 1744455 Jadr
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How can you be so obtuse?  His complaint isn't about specific employees but is regarding a union leadership person who is siphoning money away from the union workers/business to fund his salary which the other poster claims to be higher than his salary as the business owner. 

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 06:46 | 1744601 mckee
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Serious? Either you didn't read his comments, you've got some major "projection" issues, or you just can't comprehend.


Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:30 | 1744258 FEDbuster
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Galt's Gulch, CO?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:52 | 1744386 nhr215
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I don't believe you. You sound incredibly uncredible. You own the company and the union representative of your local union makes $150,000 year plus lifetime medical plus 3 times pension plus a $25,000 worth of business expenses.... Really? And you are a "small business?" Really? You are 100% full of shit. None of this adds-up. Either you don't own the company, its not a small business, or you make a lot more than you say. But not all 3 of these can possibly be true in the current universe and the attending laws of physics. Either you are a liar or a complete fool (i.e. putting up with a situation in a company that you own that you can't stand). Which one is it?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 20:56 | 1748132 Blankman
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Obviously you have never worked in a strong, unionized state.


Here numnuts this is from 2004, call me crazy but I am betting they have not taken any pay cuts (and no its 2x pension):


Also I am not antiunion I am anti greed and corruption.  The unions could become a great thing again if the put their money where their mouths are and actually represent the people they claim to represent.  IE... instead of taking from their people they represent they could give a little back.  Not charge the retirees so damn much to keep thier health care and pensions active.  The retirees in this union keep paying more and more each year to cover what were ill advised investment decisions over the past 10 years on the unions part.  


I enjoy what I do however the demoralizing factor comes in when our profit per employee is ~$5-10 per hour and the union gets $25 per hour.  In response to your other comment about why I do it - well for one I am good at what I do and 2 as I stated in a previous post above we are taking action to move out of state to eliminate our problems.


We are a small business with under 20 employees.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 21:06 | 1748152 Blankman
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This one is a little more current:

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:05 | 1744181 sun tzu
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blah blah go fuck yourself, obongo, and your holier than thou marxist bullshit, ya fuckin LOSER scumbag

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:13 | 1744207 LetThemEatRand
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Labels -- the first indication that you are a douchebag.  It is not Marxist to seek a strong middle class and a robust economy.  You have been brainwashed, which is easy when the brain is small.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:59 | 1744035 Sophist Economicus
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@LTERand    Besides exhibiting stupidity, what did you ever do besides burping in the union hall?   You're an IDIOT


RIP Steve

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:03 | 1744050 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

I stand with my friends and mourn the loss of genius.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:09 | 1744068 LetThemEatRand
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From you, that is a compliment.   Steve Jobs was a genius and could have been a very wealthy man without Chinese slave labor.   Too bad a few billion wasn't enough.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:45 | 1744144 prole
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"a few billion wasn't enough" ? really?
I bet you can also be found spouting that the taxes we (not you siphoner) we pay are never enough either?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:01 | 1744156 LetThemEatRand
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Yes, anyone who disagrees with you is a siphoner.  Thank you for proving my point about the narcissistic tendencies of you clowns.  You actually agree that a few billion isn't enough.  As for your other incorrect conclusion, I probably paiid more in taxes last year than you made, which is really irritating because most of it went to buy coke for some Wall Street bailout recipient (your heros).  But who cares, really?  Do you ever ask yourself why you worship a man you never met and who probably would not have spoken to you on the stree if you'd met him?  Nevermind.  Carry on, worship your celebrity.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:07 | 1744189 sun tzu
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who are you to decide how much a person deserves to earn? go fuck yourself you stinky maggot parasite

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:17 | 1744217 LetThemEatRand
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Every single employer who has ever existed decided how much another person should earn.  Of course you don't know that, because you are a douchebag idealogue who has never employed anyone but who worships people you have never met.  Fuck you.  

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 02:58 | 1744448 AustriAnnie
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Wages are a two-sided agreement.  Many people pay what they have to in order to get a job done.

Do you just "decide" how much to pay your mechanic for fixing your car? No, its negotiated. Do you just "decide" how much to pay a babysitter, plumber, engineer, contractor, or just about anyone who acts as an independent worker?

Don't be a fool.  A worker who is actually worth something will be able to negotiate a good wage.  

Also, I'd be curious to know how many "poor" union workers own ipods and shop at WalMart and Best Buy and own big screen TV's and Toyotas and Hondas, and shoes and clothes made in China.  Hypocrites all of them.  They can go buy made in America shit, but they don't, because they want the benefits of low-cost items, but think everyone else should pay them double for whatever they do.

When you see the hypocrisy its pretty obvious.  Secondly, it amazes me that nobody seems to mention that poor people in other countries are just trying to make a living too.  The people who yell the loudest to "buy made in America" are also the ones who often want to send foreign aid to other countries.  I have many Chinese friends whose families are employed by choice in those places, and they have the opportunities they never would have had otherwise.  Several are here on scholarship paid for by American companies. They are becoming heart surgeons, businesspeople and contributing to our society as we are theirs.  Accomplishes far more than trade wars.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:34 | 1744264 Prairie Fire
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I hope somebody shits in your face

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:36 | 1744274 LetThemEatRand
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Well said and even more well reasoned.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:40 | 1744286 Prairie Fire
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Watching the poor suffer is the best and cheapest form of entertainment --Karl Marx

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:46 | 1744301 LetThemEatRand
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Empathy.  Go look it up.  Oh, never mind, you'll never have it even if you know what it means.  Let me guess -- do a lot of people who know you well consider you dysfunctional?  I know, you'll never admit it even to yourself.  But if/when you hit bottom, there's help out there, really.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 08:08 | 1744577 prole
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You are an internet meme.
You are a joke.

Collecting tax money that you steal from the productive and stuff in your pocket, while pretending to be something you are not. "Pay more taxes! what are you greedy?" "I pay more taxes than you!"

You want empathy? Please empathize with a tax-payer, and a member of the productive class. I am the one you steal from and pay for that beemer. I paid for your beemer. If I want a beemer, I have to pay for 2 beemers, yours and mine, where is my empathy?

SJ wasn't a fvcking bloodsucker like you and monsanto, he did not  use his power to harm anyone or steal anything or enforce monopolies with SWAT teams and government bureaucrats like LTERAND. He participated in the free market economy and he was a rock-star

RIP Steve Jobs. The last great American (Syrian-American) Is dead.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:37 | 1744126 prole
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Apple products:

"They were made the only place they could be made,

away from the unions."

PivotalTrades 2011

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:49 | 1744017 Baptiste Say
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"Answer one single question and you'll see this. Where are apple products produced?"


Why would I as an Australian want my apple product to be produced by some 300lbs neanderthal Amerikkkan earning a higher hourly wage than I do for the task of twiddling screwdrivers and closing boxes? Why would any one outside of America give two shits about them not being Amerikkkan made? Fortunately the engineering is done in America where your countrymen do a very good job and the production is done elsewhere where the citizens do a very good job.


Apple products are made where the company can get the required production at acceptable quality for the best price, that so happens to be PRC and ROC. Fortunately for the world and apple shareholders this pursuit of value results in maximum utility.



RIP Steve Jobs, a true visionary who will be remembered in the same light as Gutenberg, Edison and Ford as a true innovator and creator of dozens of industry changing products and services.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:13 | 1744205 sun tzu
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The union parasites are upset because they are chimps that are only capable of twiddling with screwdrivers and closing boxes. Most of the hi-tech components inside are made by American, South Korean, and Taiwanese businesses. The Chinese merely screw the case over the PCB. The union chimps in America would demand $30/hr for chimp work and threaten strikes every year right before the release of each new iphone version

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:37 | 1744281 Prairie Fire
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shut your fat ignorant mouth you mindless twat

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:43 | 1744296 LetThemEatRand
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Your anger is exceeded only by your ignorance.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:16 | 1743810 Robot Traders Mom
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@Arius it coincides unfortunately w/ Wall street protests and tea parties who would like to change the world.... unemployment .... when we need him most he is leaving us - really unfortunate .... the end of an era ...

The Wall Street protests and Tea Parties have been corrupted by corporate interests. There is nothing there. Why does the world need Steve Jobs? The world needs a revolutionary figure that speaks the truth and does what is right for humanity. Jobs expanded technology, took a generation away from books and knowledge, and dumbed them down beyond belief.

Most of us here, outside of the trolls, know what the end game is for our once great nation. Jobs helped the masses and sheep continue to nod off in a technological slumber. An entire generation now has less common sense and a much more distorted view of what real wealth really is.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:44 | 1743897 traderjoe
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True ' dat

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:28 | 1743945 Canaduh
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Is there an app for resurrection??? There isn't? Shoulda had some of your slaves work on that there bub.

This world isn't any better for his products, despite what the zombies tell you. Technology =/= advancement. We are just apes with neat gadgets.

Disclosure: Don't own any crapple products, hopefully never do.


Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:06 | 1744183 trav7777
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yeah...the overstatement of his impact has already gotten ridiculous.

Craapl was a consumer products company, for fuck's sake.  You can't put this shit on the same level as the airplane or light bulb despite the fucking cult following these stupid products receive from people who are functionally lemmings.

Steve Jobs is dead...I don't care.  Nobody should give a fuck.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:15 | 1744210 sun tzu
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Computers and mobile devices are also consumer products. Are you telling me they haven't increased productivity? Ya fuckin moron. Why do you think businesses buy computers and/or mobile devices for their employees?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:47 | 1744304 trav7777
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Neither jobs nor Craapl invented the COMPUTER OR MOBILE DEVICE, you effing IDIOT.

NONE of his products are widely accepted in ANY business environment.  They are fucking CONSUMER TOYS for starry-eyed iLEMMINGS.

Jesus fking Christ you are STUPID

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:42 | 1744293 Prairie Fire
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I heard that Jobs had aids from fucking a nun in the ass, is that true?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:55 | 1744389 nhr215
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yes, everyone's a sheep except you. Did you ever think that you are the sheep? That you are unable to think for yourself? That you are unable to think critically about your worldview. Is it really possible that the entire planet is full of idiots and you are the only sage? Or is it more likely that you are highly deluded, have a narcissitically inflated sense of your own wisdom and, in fact, ruled by your passions and not your reason? Quite frankly, you sound like a fool. To blame one individual for taking "a geneation away from books of knowledge" speaks volume about your ability to think clearly, analyze, or make deliberate judgement. Ridiculous and quite frankly unworthy of serious dialgoue.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:19 | 1745367 Robot Traders Mom
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I'm not so sure about that. How many Americans understand the perils of genetically modified food, the Federal Reserve, the military industrial complex, etc???

If educating myself on these is nacissitic, then so be it. You have been conditioned to believe everything is great and appreciate the degradation of society.

You are probably the same one that chants USA, USA, USA whenever the occasion arises.

Good luck, go back to sleep.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:16 | 1743814 gtb
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Arius...The tea party wants to change the world?  How so?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:17 | 1744218 sun tzu
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Getting rid of coporate and individual parasites? Who the fuck do you think were the first and only ones to protest TARP and the bank bailouts in 2008/09? It sure the hell wasn't moveon or the parasitic unions

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:30 | 1743649 King_of_simpletons
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Sad and personal :-(  I own a piece of Jobs's work in my hand everyday.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:55 | 1743752 Bananamerican
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yea, i was just thinking about that...

i used a blue imac to woo my fiance & later cut our wedding video on it...used a G5 tower to make a retrospective film of my mother's life for her funeral 3 years ago...

I sold my entire record collection after moving everything onto an ipod.

I've cropped & color-corrected photojournalism assignments and graphic design gigs on G3's & G4's & G5's and taught multi-media at an Art college in a lab full of Mac's and made my last two albums on a G5 with Mac software.

I'm teaching my son to read and write on his Ipad and use iphones and Macbooks to keep in touch with his big sister away on a 4 year scholarship (yep, she had her own Macbook Pro all through high school).

I've informed myself and sent my own meager thoughts out to the world using Steve's creations....


Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:08 | 1744192 trav7777
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why is it that you retards are giving the CEO credit for shit he didn't do?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:34 | 1744372 Bananamerican
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so Trav, tell us...what exactly did Jobs do to your mother?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 02:01 | 1744402 nhr215
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Perhaps you should read about the history of the company. Your inability to express yourself without resorting to profanity suggests that you are too young to have been alive during the period when Apple teatered on bankrupcy and their best attempt at personal technology was the Newton. I'm pretty sure he is getting credit for taking a company that was about close to extinction (and even considered acquisition offers from Mircosoft) and building it into one of the largest companies in the world. Usually, you know, the CEO has something to do with that. Also it sounds like you are unaware that Steve Jobs was highly involved in the design aspects as well as the development of the iMac, the iPod, and the iPhone. So yeah, he tends to get credit for that. Again, all things available in books. Perhaps you should try writing fewer comments and reading-up more.



Thu, 10/06/2011 - 02:28 | 1744416 Zero Govt
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Jobs was brilliant at creating, crafting and designing software ...when he head hunted an Executive away from "sugary water" Coka Cola he pinpointed his weakness (commercialisation) and filled it. Apple went from garage nerd to global nerd computers to global goliath

Nobody has flattened so many global giants so easily. Sony. Microshite. Nokia. Motorola. Google. All also-rans gasping in Apples wake

Nobody talks more shit that you Trav7777. When you get it wrong, like today, you deserve to be buried so far under with your garbage mouth that magma burns it off. STFU toss pot 

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:55 | 1743923 Sandy Shorts
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Thank you for the correct spelling of the possessive.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:07 | 1744188 trav7777
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huh?  He didn't invent that, you freakin starry-eyed moron

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:22 | 1744233 trav7777
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you fucking MISS him?

did you know the dude?

I couldn't care less..he's fuckin dead.  So were a million other people today.  Happens to everyone.

NO, he did not ENRICH your fucking life with his bullshit consumer products.  His genius was in CONNING YOU into believing that he had.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:36 | 1744272 fuu
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This thread is going to work your keyboard pretty hard.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:32 | 1744119 lano1106
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I have seen somewhere someone saying that they changed the name of the iPhone 5 to iPhone 4S (For Steve). It might be correct.


Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:33 | 1743629 crazyjsmith
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So true.  His company revolutionized the way people interact, consume, and get access to information.  I CONSUME Zerohedge on my Apple products DAILY.  Simple, clean, and IMMENSLEY easy to use.  If it wasn't for him, we would all be fumbling around with clunky Disc Walkmans, arcaic plastic cell phones and infested-twisted-convaluted PC's while running shitty Microsoft programs.

Rest in Peace my friend, you left WAY too fucking young, but you did go out on TOP

You will be missed and you will always be remembered.       

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:10 | 1744195 trav7777
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uh, no we wouldn't, you retard.

The iPod was not the first memory-based MP3 player, nor was the iPhone the first fucking smartphone, the first touchscreen, or the first ANYTHING.  Xerox invented the windowing system, not Craapl.

You iLemmings need to get your heads out of your asses and stop drinking the koolaid.  Nobody CARES if you are browsing ZH with a craapl product.  Jobs had NOTHING to do with the product design of any of these things; he was a CEO.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:19 | 1744225 sun tzu
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Yeah, Jobs had nothing to do with anything at Apple. Just sat there counting beans. You fucking retarded chimp

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:24 | 1744239 trav7777
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You fucking shitbag...shut the fuck up.

Jobs did NONE OF THE THINGS you MORONS credit him for.  NONE.

All the products were designed and invented by OTHERS.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:03 | 1745274 NumberNone
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Name a product invented from scratch by anyone?  There's not been anything invented in the last 100 years that wasn't stolen or copied from someone else's idea.  Famous Amos didn't invent the chocolate chip cookie and I don't see anyone bitching about his success from it. 

For the last 40 years everyone in the world had the same set of tools and technology laid out in front of them.  There were huge multinational companies and millions of individuals that looked at the same things Jobs looked at an no one else put the pieces together the way he did. 

In music, the conductor didn't invent the instruments, didn't write the music, doesn't play the instruments, didn't spend the hours practicing the music to get it perfect, and its all been done a million times before by other conductors...we fucking get that.  But if something magical happens when it's all pulled together by a talented conductor he gets all the credit.  So be it.


Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:35 | 1744368 iNull
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Here's a true story. I was on a sales call to Xerox around 1992. East SF bay area. One of the engineers calls me over and says "Hey, you wanna see the first mouse?" He was excited so I was like, sure. So I walked over and he showed me the actual first mouse and the computer that it was programmed on. Seemed very clunky. Almost like a crude 640 x 480 video arcade game. But he swore this was IT (the original mouse) and that they had invented it right there at the Xerox campus. I don't think he was lying. I think he was telling the truth and that he just wanted the credit. It was a matter of personal pride and he wanted people to know -- I'm quite sure I was not the first to have that technology tour. To be honest, at the time, it really didn't mean all that much to me. I was more concerned with getting my commission as I was one of the world's worst salesmen. Very skinny. But now looking back on it, maybe Apple did steal some shit (and the public perception) that wasn't rightfully theirs.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:34 | 1743674 Au_Ag_CuPbCu
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Mine was an Apple II in 1980, 48K ram with a 16K memory card for the language...BASIC....right around $2,700.  He was the most amazing visionary I have witnessed.  And now to show how lame I am I never bought AAPL, sitting on the sidelines because I was affraid of this very moment.  I don't think any CEO on the planet was more instrumental to the success of the companies he ran. 

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:08 | 1744066 DoChenRollingBearing
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Mine was the second version of the Mac in 1987.  You know, the one where you could buy an optional hard disc, that came in a separate plastic case/box that you put under the computer.  Capacity of that HD: 10 megabytes!

It was my first computer, but I switched over to Wintel for business reasons and more software (note to Apple: write a decent dabase program and a good statistics program and you may grab LOTS of new buyers, hey just sayin').


Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:38 | 1744276 Arkadaba
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Mine too! What can I say. My first computer was an Apple and introduced me to technology. Never will forget making my first web page and getting a glimmer of where it might go.  So thanks Mr. Jobs and RIP.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:33 | 1743865 Buck Johnson
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The sick thing was that Steve Jobs was ahead of his time.  He had computer pads (the Newton) and other things back in the day.  He tried to work with Digital Cameras before anybody else (just wiki apple) and was the first computer company with a mouse.  Apple should have defeated Microsoft, but we know that history.  A good man with good ideas.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:07 | 1743948 boffster
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Apple did defeat Microsoft

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:10 | 1743950 PolishHammer
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Apple in fact defeated Microsoft after Jobs came back.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:12 | 1744202 trav7777
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LOL...Microsloth OWNS Craapl.  To keep that stupid company alive, Gates poured in hundreds of millions and provided Crappls with MS Office.

Microsloth is why Craapl even EXISTS.  Your stupid macinshit computers haven't defeated anything except the record of how stupid a consumer can be to overpay for that pos

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:21 | 1744228 sun tzu
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That was 20 years ago you fucking mongoloid ape. If MS didn't invest, someone else would have. Jobs wiill go down in history while you're just a pile of steaming shit that squirted out of a whore's ass

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:27 | 1744246 trav7777
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NOBODY would have invested in that STUPID piece of fuck company Crappl!


It was Gates who saved your stupid iShit.  BILL GATES.  He is the wellspring from which you flow.  Microsloth OFFICE saved your stupid company and your stupid messiah.

People like you walk around worshipping Obama's feces too; you can't get enough of rockstars and people to applaud when they have babies.

Craapl was FINISHED.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 02:25 | 1744426 Zero Govt
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Trav7777  -  Gates cannot save his own piece of shit! How do you think he "saved" Apple precisely dipshit? Run me through his business plan wud ya peanut brain

Gates wanted a piece of Apple, simple as that. His 3rd rate poker playing monopolist global garbage truck was copying (badly) Apple with religous zeal from almost year one. It is Microshite that needed Apple more than anybody, they had no design, creative or innovation without Apples strategic leading. Gates & Bulmer followed Steve Jobs so closely they probably should have been arrested for stalking decades ago 

Microshite is Apples exhaust fumes are Sony, Samsung, Nokia, Motorola and Google now

Apple is iTechnology

You are iMoron 


Thu, 10/06/2011 - 03:15 | 1744460 Arkadaba
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Just curious - what is your OS (that is Operating System). I'm guessing something Windows.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 05:47 | 1748908 Zero Govt
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i'd rather eat shit past its sell-by-date than use Windows or buy anything from Microshite

how many times a day do you smack your MS (multiple shutdown) piece of crap frozen solid with another Gates & Bulmer bug or virus? How many takes to the servicer in its 1st year?? How many anti-virus, de-bugging extra purchases do you have to buy to keep your piece of Gates & Bulmer turds working ever slower and in ever decreasing circles?????

Where is consumer law, consumer groups, the States anti-monopoly Depts on decades of Gates & Bulmer monopolistic incompetent garbage selling??? Windows makes the Trabbant look good, how the fuk have these sheisters got away with peddling such trash throughout the Western world for decades??????????????????????????????????????????????????

Gates is trying to stop 3rd world kids smoking (good luck goofball). He ought to start his charitable donations at home and refund every consumer and business for the unmitigated crap they've had to put up with from his monopolistic rigging of the worlds PC markets and its dinosaur retailer channels etc

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:01 | 1744047 divide_by_zero
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Actually second, Apple took the mouse from Xerox that is an open secret as they were sued over it. We used to use Xerox workstations for design well before Apple came out with a computer using a mouse.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 02:31 | 1744434 Zero Govt
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then Apple introduced itouchpad and itouchscreen ...where are Xerox now!!

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:03 | 1744041 Mercury
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Hey, we actually had an Apple II Plus around the house when I was a kid (back when I could program!).  I never met Jobs but I met Wozniak once at a computer show and remember being blown away.  Those guys just seemed so fucking cool...leveraging neat-o, affordable technology, taking on the big boys (IBM) at their own game and (not unlike the 70's Grateful Dead) plowing most of their capital back into equipment and R&D to try and innovate something even cooler.  When Steve & Steve "broke up" it seemed like Lennon & McCartney or Marley & Tosh going their separate do lesser things.  But of course it didn't play out that way at all (although it seemed so for a while).

I think financial "innovation" is mostly an oxymoron and I know Jobs was famous for being somewhat dictatorial but if the federal government encouraged Apple-like political innovation (50 states as 50 laboratories say) to experiment and develop different ways to solve common problems (there is some precedent for this) I think the American experiment could actually grow new legs.  The boys in DC should at least be asking themselves if we'll ever see someone like Steve Jobs again in this country.

RIP Steve.  That was a too short but a very nice run indeed.



Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:09 | 1744069 Mactheknife
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>He deserved every penny he made.

Funny, he really didn't care about the money. A very unique individual. He was as feirce a competitor as there ever was and truely lived for the win but at the same time he was just as in touch with the creative universe as any inventor who ever lived. I'm sorry that I won't get to see where this combination could have led to next.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:29 | 1744252 trav7777
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to an even bigger iCult?

Or how about a valuation of the company 2x the company that produces the shit everything runs on?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 02:35 | 1744435 Zero Govt
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Jobs started in iGarage ...did pretty well from there

you started in iSewer and clearly stuck

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:11 | 1744073 ParaZite
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I bought my new i7 3.4 ghz iMac last week. 2,600 bucks. 

One of the new computers I have actually bought, vs many PC clones I have built over the years. I have been impressed with the apple since the early 80's... even the 90's when I was in graphic arts and publishing and building one of the first websites for alleykatz dot com at the age of 15. The first computer I ever really used was an Apple II. Then an Apple IIe. Then internet pron hit, and the IBM PC became a defacto standard with many of the publishers I worked with. Everyone wants "content" that worked with IBM clones... and mac, if possible.

Then, suddenly, Steve Jobs came back to Apple, and the iMac became a quick and reliable friend again. Content started to work everywhere once the motorola processor was dumped for the Intel PC. Powermacs were again becoming common place in the printing and "media" industries. 

 Apple has changed many peoples idea of technology and how it works, even how it should look. To say he will be sorely missed will be a vast understatement. I remember using Next and OS/2 back in the day as well. 

So, as a old school computer "nerd" from the 80's till today... Apple and Steve have always been a part of my life. I have made my living working on IBM pc's... but I cut my teeth on the Apple, Apple Dos... and thus my love afair with technology was born. I remember the beautiful glow of the monochrome monitor on that Apple while playing text based games in the 5th grade, because Apple GAVE our school 3 Apple PC's. 

Here's to you Steve... one nerd to another, you will be missed. 

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:16 | 1744214 trav7777
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dude, nobody fucking cares that you iMarched like an iLemming into an iStore and iOverpaid for a fucking pos computer, ok?

It doesn't make you entitled to grieve over someone you didn't even know like how morons try to constantly connect themselves to 9/11 to share in the attention.  It's pathetic in fact.

Just STFU about it and stop worshipping the fucking CEO of the company, gfd.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:22 | 1744235 sun tzu
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Nobody asked for your opinion you steaming pile of shit

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