Steve Jobs Has Passed Away (1955-2011)

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Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:41 | 1743388 LongBallsShortBrains
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Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:42 | 1743408 Pladizow
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I guess an apple a day does'nt keep the doctor away!

Oh, IBummer - Nice Sack!

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:45 | 1743427 bob_dabolina
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Too soon, not cool

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:51 | 1743467 Roger O. Thornhill
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Bought my first Mac in 1984. $ 2,700 bucks back then.

Few people, I would say, actually did something worthwhile. Made some amazing ideas mainstream, from GUI interface to real, high quality, typography, etc. etc. Brought actual value to the world - not just a sick, twisted money shuffler - the man produced real assets. He deserved every penny he made.


Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:09 | 1743568 mkkby
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Now we know why they delayed announcing a new iphone yesterday.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:25 | 1743613 Bananamerican
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I'm the most anti-corporate fellow you'll ever meet, and i can't imagine ever saying this about ANY other CEO ever again...

I already miss the guy.

Perfect? No. But "who among us..."

You have to recognize the man WAS a dreamer and that he DID change our world, on balance, for the better.

How many of you made your living, directly or indirectly, using his products?

I did.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:26 | 1743639 Arius
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it is the END of an ERA .... its almost like the stars are aligned ... it coincides unfortunately w/ Wall street protests and tea parties who would like to change the world.... unemployment .... when we need him most he is leaving us - really unfortunate .... the end of an era ...

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:31 | 1743662 duo
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There's always that Starbucks guy....

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:43 | 1743896 Ahmeexnal
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This should give FAZ a double digit green tomorrow.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:01 | 1743931 anynonmous
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Now we know why they delayed announcing a new iphone yesterday.


A marketer to the end (or those who wished to exploit), too bad about the violations of privacy, tracking and all the other police state dynamics that Apple has facilitated.  Steve wasn't evil but remove the St and what do you have.... sssssssssssss

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:05 | 1743938 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Wow that is fucking brilliant. 

Just so you know, I am going to start using that.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:10 | 1743951 Cheesy Bastard
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Hopefully Steve was one of the Jobs that was created and saved. RIP.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:53 | 1744025 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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(St)Eve sold out and ate the apple.  He is a corporate whore.  He did no good for our society, and in fact worsened it by hiring slave labor to make the goods (apple is NAFTA's bitch) thusly bankrupting Americans because they are so disillusioned by the magic of apple they go go bankrupt by being in debt to this asinine corporate image of our given society, created by none other than....Eve Jobs! 

You are all slaves to the system unless you realize this.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:04 | 1744054 Fish Gone Bad
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I admired Steve Jobs and will miss him.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:14 | 1744083 Mr. Mandelbrot
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So, do the ends justify the means now?!! The guy was a visionary, but morally and socially a rotten apple. Do we praise Hitler for the autobahn system and Voltzwagen? No, his means render his ends unappreciable. We're a morally bankrupt society that makes Jobs, Buffet, Blankfein, Dimon, etc our heroes. Sad . . .

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:19 | 1744094 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Stolkholm syndrome is real.  Love your captors, bitchez.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:07 | 1744186 Oh regional Indian
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Seriously LH, Jobs was a pied piper. Of bad technology. He was a trans-humanist who could not be kept alive by them, strange, I thought they would Borg him out just to keep him going.

If any of his acolytes need one SYmbol of how he destroyed people, it's those White Ear Buds, driving the world deaf one iPod at a time.

He was a caricature of what our heores are meant to be in this twisted place.

I hope he is pushing a rock up a hill, wherever he is.


Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:29 | 1744249 Race Car Driver
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+ rocks


"Mac killed my inner child."

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:33 | 1744262 philgramm
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I am sure you realize the irony in the fact that you are sitting at a computer writing your diatribe.  It may be a PC instead of a Mac in which case you'll be writing the same hateful things about Gates when he dies, all the while benefiting from the products they created.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:05 | 1744341 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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We don't need technology:  Technology needs us.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:50 | 1744385 Arkadaba
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Stupid. Wish I could change the font. You guys are being stupid. My first computer was a Mac where I learnt how to create a web page and figured out some system scripting stuff. I don't idolize the guy but Steve Jobs made a difference. Not like you typing away and using a gui that would not have happened except for people like Mr. Jobs.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:56 | 1744390 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You are swimming in circles, and you are bound to drown.  Yet you think you are special because your noble teacher Eve who ate the apple Jobs gave you a pointless task of doing some stupid thing.  What good did you create?  Do you feel better about yourself?  Does your life have purpose now?  Run along, and play with the other kids.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 02:43 | 1744429 Arkadaba
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I know how to swim and even tread water. Bigger question - what did you do?

Btw I actually like most of your comments that I've seen over the past few years - reacting to some inanity I'm seeing regarding this particular person. Sorry but he made stuff and did create jobs. Did he eventually outsource them - yes. Is he a Christian? I don't care. What party did he contribute to - probably both.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 02:21 | 1744427 Christophe2
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@"Stupid": You are no smarter, certainly.


It's a rigged game and an oligarchy.  People who are connected (eg: free masons) are insanely advantaged over the rest, just like the children of vastly wealthy people are also hugely advantaged.  I don't think Steve Jobs succeeded against all odds: he sold out to the system, and hence was able to succeed.


Here's what sucks about Jobs, Gates and the rest: they lead dysfunctional companies (everyone undermining one another from within) and they owe their success largely on lack of competition (eg: patents) and on propaganda / mind control to get sales (Jobs) or abusive monopolies (Gates).  Furthermore, their success comes from the engineers and designers far more than it does from the CEO.


More to the point, why is Mohamed Ali considered the best athlete of the 20th century, bar none?  Because the guy has a conscience, because he fought the system, because he was 'real'.  Steve Jobs is a puke who was most certainly part of the secret societies, an industrialist who didn't hesitate to take advantage of slave labor to make a faster buck, even though he was already a gazillionaire who didn't particularly need the money.  He was evidently one of the chiefs of the corporations that are making our lives hell, but we should regret his passing because he made pretty machines?  Screw him.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 08:44 | 1744871 BigJim
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...Stupid. Wish I could change the font. You guys are being stupid. My first computer was a Mac where I learnt how to create a web page and figured out some system scripting stuff. I don't idolize the guy but Steve Jobs made a difference. Not like you typing away and using a gui that would not have happened except for people like Mr. Jobs.

Jobs and Gates were/are great businessmen, but neither of them were great engineers, coders, or designers. It's impossible to say what our world would be like with people like Gates and Jobs because our current economic /legal system encourages people like them to get to the top. Furthermore, without all the IP law that protects their products from competition, it's arguable that the system actually retards technological progress.

PS - Apple didn't invent the GUI. Try Xerox Parc.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 02:31 | 1744433 saiybat
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I use Linux. When Gates dies he'll get his wish of population control. It's too bad he doesn't off himself to set an example for the overpopulation ideologues to follow. Really, I'm not being vindictive; people should practice what they preach instead of seeking to impose it on others.

I don't have a problem with Steve Jobs but I never used his products.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 07:19 | 1744655 krypplephite
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Bill Gates didn't create the PC.

I'm no Apple fanboy, but it's safe to say that Gates has been Salieri to Jobs Mozart.

That said, the curated computing experience of iOS is built for retards.

Jobs success was understanding how to apeal to your inner retard with a never ending cycle of shiny objects and planned obsolesence.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:55 | 1744318 epwpixieq-1
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Only if he had only known that there is a cure for cancer, he could have been saved:

maybe then he would have decided to work not only for his personal visionary plesure and the business but allso for improving the lives of The People.

Rest in peace.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 05:43 | 1744550 Monedas
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Steve Jobs RIP !  Monedas 2011    Michael Moore is to Capitalism and Freedom......what the FDA and the Texas State Board of Medical Examiners are to Dr. Stanislaw Burzinski and his Neoplastons ! Monedas wonders if Neoplastons could cure Michael Moores's Socialist cancer ?

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 01:49 | 1754149 Bananamerican
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that seems more like an infomercial than a documentary....

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:49 | 1744154 chindit13
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Does your morality extend to feeling sympathy for the slaves who mined much of the gold and silver you worship?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:17 | 1744216 Bolweevil
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I wrestle with that one often. Are there no sound investments free from the taint of immorality or ethics?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:32 | 1744260 wisefool
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It starts with making sure the head of the tax collection agency is not a tax cheat.

Let me know when can work on the next steps.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:51 | 1744358 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Half of the gold above ground was mined before 1900.  The amount mined since I started buying is marginal.  In no way is buying gold perpetuating slavery.  You just gave one of the worst arguements in the history of arguements. 

Buying gold now is so fractional considering our move against the FIAT PONZI that we are justified.  And if the people end up with the gold instead of institutions then we can end this FIAT PONZI.  I say this is a great goal.

You are against us.  I wonder why. 

I am trying to end the system, and I found a loophole.  We take the PM, they can't short it.  They can't short it, and the dollar loses its value.  No more dollar, no more US military.  Then no more war.  Why don't you know this?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 06:09 | 1744528 chindit13
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Since we are using superlatives, you just gave one of the best rationalizations in the history of rationalizations.

No doubt your gold is "ethically mined" and your sole reason for buying it is to end war, but a whole lot of the gold out there was mined by slaves or under horrendous conditions, pre and post 1900.

Ever been to a gold mine?  Post apartheid SA gold mines are better than apartheid mines, but they still ain't pretty.  The mines I have visited, where China is the producer, are filled with folks making less than a dollar a day for twelve hours work, much of which is hand kneading mercury through the excavated gold-bearing soil.  "Mad as a hatter" is not just a cute phrase.  Other of the mines use cyanide as a recovery agent.  A good many people die on site.  Ground water around the sites is poisonous, rivers are polluted, and the open pit mines scar the countryside.  These mines have been in operation for a while, so some of the product could well have found its way to your local coin shop or online dealer.

But that gold sure is purty, and hey, owning it ends wars.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 08:34 | 1744837 BigJim
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The Chinese government buys all their domestically-produced gold. So unless Mr. Lennon Hendrix is Chinese, chances are pretty good he owns no recently-mined Chinese gold.

As for the South African miners - they do the job because it pays them better than other employment opportunities in Africa. But feel free to set up a company in South Africa paying higher wages yourself.

Let's apply the argument that we should eschew gold ownership because in the past, vast amounts of gold were mined by slaves. Have a look around you - that can be said of anything older than a few hundred years. Should we stop using a Roman road because it was made by slaves? Should we throw out all our antiques because the exotic hardwood was almost certainly cut by slaves, and the cabinetmakers who shaped it consumed slave-produced sugar?

What a sanctimonious twat you are.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:20 | 1744996 chindit13
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I'm talking about Chinese mining of gold in Burma. The Chinese government does not buy/keep all of this production.  It goes elsewhere.  It goes global.

I did not start the sanctimony.  I did try to point out the hypocrisy of this guy's statement.  Also, he tried to make a claim that his gold buying helps weaken the "system", the dollar, and eventually the military, i.e., it's altruistic.  Well, if his buying of gold can end wars, then his buying of gold certainly can help drive up the price of something which then encourages the kind of mining I see here.

Why didn't you address your "because it pays them better than other employment opportunities in Africa" to the other poster, albeit replace Africa with China?

Finally, you don't know diddly about what I'm doing to improve anyone's lot in life, so feel free to bugger off.


Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:43 | 1745514 BigJim
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Oh, Burma? According to wiki (, Burma produced 100 kg of gold... out of a total of 2,310,000... or, roughly 0.0043% of world production.

That was back in 2006... perhaps their production has expanded by several orders of magnitude since then? If not, then chances are still good to excellent that Mr. Lennon Hendrix has no Chinese/Burmese gold.

And no, I don't know diddly about what you're doing to improve anyone's lot in life, apart from sanctimonious online advisings concerning the putative evils of PM ownership.

But do tell.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 11:34 | 1745856 chindit13
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While I am sure Wiki is the be-all and end-all expert on everything everywhere, I haven’t seen too many of their people here over the last few years.  Besides that, the junta here tends to be rather closed mouth, so I doubt they report to the WGC or anyone else.
As for increased production, it has exploded since gold popped $1000.  Additional millions of acres have been opened up to Chinese mining interests, and the entire landscape of the northeast part of the country has been altered.  Tens of thousands of people have been displaced, and one sees a "whole lot of shaking going on" in the mining areas as a result of the effects of Hg.  When I see nuggets that would make an Aussie envious, or see geological reports that show 15ppm on large tracts of land, I’ll bet the production is pretty high.  Certainly the monies generated have fueled a property bubble of astonishing proportions, though other factors have had an impact.

I’m not the one spouting the PC line or lambasting anyone for buying Pms per se, but I did point out the inconsistency of that guy’s argument.  I am well aware that steering clear of somebody’s abuse or misfortune in this world is nigh on impossible.  As I noted before, you might well have used your SA argument against Lennon and his China concerns, but I suspect your ire stems from my mentioning Pms in less than God-like light.   

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 11:01 | 1745598 BigJim
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I see Burma also produces copper at great cost to their environment. I guess we'd better all stop using electricity as it may have come to us via some of that 'global' Burmese copper.... or over recycled copper produced hundreds of years ago by slaves.

Hey look... they produce paper, too! Isn't that the stuff our currency is made from? Maybe we should be using PMs. Oh wait, no, that is ethically hazardous too. Apparently.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 01:57 | 1744393 IQ 101
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Their is no Apple in the book of Genesis, you halfwit dickwang.


Thu, 10/06/2011 - 05:06 | 1744527 pufferfish
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Dont hate the 'playa'. Like ant business of that size, could afford not to out source labour. It'll have taken more than one company to have supported the US job market.

Also, you need to be an animal/sociopath to be a CEO of any multinational. Again, the free market economy creates positions for people of this nature. 

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:32 | 1743986 flacon
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AAPL should be fun to watch tomorrow. Let's see people put their money where their mouth is. And isn't it high time for a Free Market correction for the major markets? Perhaps this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. The poop is overflowing the toilet - it is time for a FLUSH. 

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:44 | 1744004 erg
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Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:23 | 1744103 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Steve Jobs was evil. He was an innovator, but he stole, ditched kids that he wouldn't claim, and has a private Apple security gestapo that would make Hitler blush! He was a true leader, and had charisma that we could only dream to understand, but he failed in this life on how he approached and treated other human beings. Contrast him to the other Steve of Apple, and what he did with his life, and the Woz is the person to look at an example. But..... may he rest in peace now. 

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:59 | 1744171 wisefool
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mostly correct. But if you want proof, look at the tax code. As others have mentioned, the "Titans" of our age are really just cleptocrats. Jobs and gates stole DOS and windows from far better engineers. Buffet sucked the government teet just like Bill parents did.

And all of this would have been fine except they double tapped us by forming the tax code in their image, including the girl jobs had a kid with who got welfare cause he wasn't confident enough to be a parent. And Nancy Pelosi being the "liberal" voice of APPL share expatriatied taxes ownership.

Flat freaking tax. No More "heroes"

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:00 | 1744172 sun tzu
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Jealous much?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 07:17 | 1744651 Tompooz
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Both Steve Jobs and Woz are my hero's. The Apple ][e brought computing to the home, mine included. I have lovingly kept it until this day, including an enormous 5Mb external harddrive.

Today it gets a place of honour.. 

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:01 | 1743935 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Na, you have to give that move three days, because Steve Jobs was Jesus and he saved the world from war, poverty, and hunger with all of his worthless shit gadgets.

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