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Steve Wynn Epic Anti-Obama Rant Part II - Full Audio And Transcript With Complete #OccupyWallStreet Thoughts

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One quarter after going on an epic anti-Obama monologue at the end of his Q2 earnings call, Steve Wynn comes back with a sequel, confirming that when it comes to completely justified anti-presidential rants, he is truly second to none. Topics touched upon include massive government deficits, the business climate, the administration's horrendous handling of the economy, and of course, Occupy Wall Street. His damning conclusion: " I am watching my employees standard of living drop off because of deficits. I think that the American public is beginning to make the connection between deficits and their own loss of the standard... I say right now that the Democratic agenda of spend and bribe the public has bankrupt this country, and until it stops, the citizens of this country are in for more hard times. And fancy speeches aren't going to change that. Only a fundamental realization that citizens are going to have to take real, sophisticated responsibility for how we allocate the resources of this country."

The rant begins 45 minutes into the clip below.

WYNN conf call by user5452365

Full transcript:

<Q>: Hey, Steve, you know, the topic, at least here in New York is occupy Wall Street, and I was going to ask a wise as question about whether or not you're going to contribute to that cause, but I do think that it -- it raises an interesting political question, and which is, the -- how do you see the landscape of politically now? Is there any reason for optimism given the current slate of candidates to give you hope for the regulatory environment improving for your business?

<A>: We had -- we had the debate here last night. We have a focus group that actually took place last night. You know, it's very interesting about the folks who are occupying Wall Street. That group is quite diverse. There are people in there that think the government should give them more, just because they are alive, regardless. There are people there who are opposing government spending. There are people there that are opposing bailouts. That group is not homogeneous by any means. What you do have on Wall Street is a reflection of the anxiety, insecurity and the fear that is endemic in the United States of America about the way government a has gotten into the business of people's life and the validity of the government, unintelligently, seeing these deficits, and government spending professionally to the point that everybody's financial security. I am watching my employees standard of living drop off because of deficits. I think that the American public is beginning to make the connection between deficits and their own loss of the standard.

People are being paid in dollars on the way to 7 cent dollars, and answer though I have given two cost of living increase toss my employees, I'm upgrading losses in America, plus I've been able to get some money from the cap. I have not been able to keep up with the effect of deficits on the living standard of my employees. The net result of all of this is frustration, anxiety, and anger. You're seeing that on Occupy Wall Street. You can see it taken to the next level in Greece where people are trying to break into a parliament, primarily controlled by the unions. There comes a  moment when the population realizes that it has to stop and sometimes it takes a form of tax the rich people which is, you know, a reflection more of a lack of understanding of how the economy works.

Rich people are now being defined by the administration as people who make a million dollars. Well, most of the businesses in America, other than giant corporations, are paying taxes under chapter S, partnerships or individual proprietorships. So somebody shows that they make $3 million or $2 million this year and they pay personal taxes on that money. They subtract their cost of living and then what's left, and that does not show that probably 25 or 30% of their profits are tied up in accounts receivable or inventory, stuff that they can't spend or get their hands on, but to support their business and their employment, and then they take whatever is left, these so-called millionaires, and they open up another shop or another office and that, that is the only known engine of growth of the United States of America, and we have an administration that is fanning the fires that this is somehow undeserved, profligate millionaires, and it is worse than hypocrisy. It is totally dishonest.

It represents by young people who don't know the difference, simple misunderstanding and lack of understanding of how the economy works for what's going on in America, but if it's politician that does it, or a union leader, then it represents something much more pernicious. It represent as deliberate misleading of the public. And I think that Americans are waking up to this. And it's taking the form of anger and dissatisfaction with the government. And I think that's probably just right because until there is a change, until this all stops, it's only going to get worse, no matter what anybody says in some fancy speech, even if it is the president, it is going to get worse. People say we're angry at the government for not compromising both sides. Well, we don't really have a situation that lends itself to what reasonable people would call compromise. We've got a situation that requires a change. That is to say one side is right here and the other side is wrong.

You cannot sustain these deficits, you cannot undercut the people that form the jobs and create the employment in this country.

I'll give you an example of Las Vegas in my own industry. Across the street from me is an piece of property that's 34 acres. It's owned by two Israeli gents that are friends of mine that bought it at a very high price and are sort of in a difficult position now. They even own money against that property. They have come to me on a monthly basis to say, go ahead, Steve, you take it, build something, connect it to Wynn and Encore, you're golf courses and convention facilities and help us get out of this, we're willing to take a very long-term approach and we'll turn the property over to you, even if we have to pay off the loan. Well, that's a very attractive offer, especially since they are willing to pay us for management, design and supervision, as well as the money to invest. But I have to tell both of these men's who are friends of mine, look, I can't give you a reasonable projection of what this return on investment will be even if we spent 2 billion and create 10 thousand direct jobs and another 30 thousand indirect jobs for a total of 40 thousand  jobs, that's  how many jobs I could create if I broke ground on the Frontier property if I broke ground in the next six months or a year. But I can't tell the men who are willing to sacrifice any short-term benefit in exchange for a long-term opportunity, because I cannot predict what healthcare costs are going to be, what regulatory load they are going to heap on us, what new taxes or other burdens this insatiable governmental appetite for money from the citizens will take us to.

Now, that is simply a statement of fact. It isn't a partisan political pitch.

It's simply a statement of fact from a businessman who has supported probably more Democrats than Republicans. But I say right now that the Democratic agenda of spend and bribe the public has bankrupt this country, and until it stops, the citizens of this country are in for more hard times.

And fancy speeches aren't going to change that.

Only a fundamental realization that citizens are going to have to take real, sophisticated responsibility for how we allocate the resources of this country.

 

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Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:45 | 1790662 CaptFufflePants
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Where was Wynn when Bush and the Republican controlled Congress spent like a drunken sailor and then staffed the oversight agencies with inept crony buffoons that precipitated the greatest financial disaster in the history of the world?

Ohh he was donating money and praising him...

You get what you paid for Wynn.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:50 | 1790675 dick cheneys ghost
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Did Wynn mention the endless wars as a drag on the economy? THE BANKER BAILOUTS?

 

Lets not forget who runs the economy..........THE FUCKING BANKS..........

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:56 | 1790701 ratso
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You got it mostly right.  And, furthermore, who gives a rats ass for what STEVE WYNN thinks.  He's just another uninformed, self-centered blow hard. 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:01 | 1790712 Dr. Engali
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I don't know of any other president who specifically targeted Vegas like Obummer did.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:58 | 1790897 ratso
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Okay, and what does Las Vegas really have to offer.  An opportunity to get hussled with smoke and mirrors.  How does that add to GDP.  It is just another awful redistribution of wealth to non-productive exploiters of the ignorant.  Obama has gone after them enough.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:41 | 1790953 AldousHuxley
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What an asinine entitlement blabbler from someone who inherited bunch of bingo parlors from daddy at a young age to get started.

 

What kind of job is he going to create anyway? blackjack dealer jobs for STEM grads and employee more illegal alien construction workers? What a way to take this country forward. Because another casino is what Nevada needs. Fucking billionare who is such a scourge that he doesn't want to give his workers healthcare. He was going to abandon America anyway and move to China.

 

And why does he have to mention that he is being offered some land from Joos? Because he is a Joo himself.  You want to build a casino Steve Weinberg, go buy a bank from Joos in New York.

 

Plus his entire enterprise depends on democrats allowing him to build casinos. Thus he is a democrat. Christian republicans aren't going to let a Joo build a casino in their town. Maybe a church, but not a casino.

 

Plus what kind of a person divorces his wife, the remarries, then divorces again?

 

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:48 | 1791032 AldousHuxley
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alright this guy has mob ties...

 

When this biography, written by a local reporter, was first released in 1995, Steve Wynn brought suit against its original publisher and forced him into bankruptcy.

http://www.amazon.com/Running-Scared-Treacherous-Times-Casino/dp/1568581904

 

Stephen Alan “Steve” Wynn. The son of an illegal bingo game operator.

in the 1960s, Wynn met one of his father's friends, Maurice Friedman of Las Vegas, later identified as an associate of a Detroit organized crime group. Though state and federal authorities never tied Wynn to organized crime members, his early link with Friedman and speculation about alleged associations to other underworld figures would be a source of controversy for him in the future.

in 1984, Wynn failed in his attempt to gain a gaming license in London amid charges—which he strongly denied—of an association with New York mobster Anthony Salerno. In 1986, Wynn also ran into licensing trouble with the New Jersey Casino Control Commission, whose investigators claimed to have evidence linking Wynn and his aides to Salerno and other organized crime figures. They also alleged that one mobster, Anthony Castelbuono, was permitted to launder money through Wynn's Atlantic City casino.

 

In the early 1990s, Wynn ran into problems with police and gaming authorities in Nevada. Las Vegas detectives revealed that the Mirage had hosted three East Coast mobsters in a trip arranged by employee Charles Meyerson, a one-time illegal bookmaker and friend of Wynn's late father.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:03 | 1791064 clymer
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you need to help me to understand how it would be a shock to anyone to learn that a casino magnate has ties to organized crime.

 

And by the way; WHAT THE FUCK IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? ORGANIZED PHILANTHROPY?

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:13 | 1791088 i-dog
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Gambling: A tax on stupidity!

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:41 | 1791151 Al Gorerhythm
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Fractional Federal Reserve Dollars. Much the same.

From a previous thread relating to a question of why all countries are in debt:


If you were to write a cheque with no intent of settling the transaction with goods of due value or kind, it is the same as printing a dollar, mark, franc, etc, etc, where the country has no intent of settling. 

These of course can be issued by private banks to citizens. However, they are not lending you anything more than a piece of paper, as there is no capital backing the loan.


If I owned a bank and I were to lend you 10 tons of gold, which you intended to use as collateral for the building of your new swimming pool, and due to security and transport logistics, I offered you a bank cheque of equal notional value as assurance of your solvency to your contractor creditors, which you accept. In your ability to pay them on completion of your pool, I also gave you a cheque book and you write them cheques for the work done. If they presented those cheques to the bank for payment in gold and the banks tell them, "Sorry! We don't got no gold because all that we offered was credit. We lied. Ooops! Why don't you try exchanging them with someone else in the market for goods and services. Our Logo on that cheque should stand for something! ", the settlement of the debt could never occur.  That's how our banking system works. 


That is the state of our monetary system. Just try to redeem your piece of paper at your sovereign bank. They will ask; "What's the problem with that one?" You will only be issued with another. 

Unbacked currency is a lie. We have all been decieved

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:24 | 1791282 flacon
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That's pretty good. 

 

Another story I heard was something like this:

 

You tell your son to go to the store to buy a bag of wheat. But you don't have money to pay for it, but you give him a note that says: "Dear store owner, I promise to pay you for this bag of wheat when I get the money". Your son goes to the store, and presents the note to the store owner. He gives the bag of wheat to your son. Half way home, your son puts down the bag of wheat to rest a while. Then he has a thought: "WHO OWNS THIS BAG OF WHEAT?". 

 

1. Who ever is in posession owns it

2. Who ever has paid for it owns it.

3. Who ever has produced it and has NOT received just compensation owns it. 

 

There are three owners of the bag of wheat, but only one mouth will eat it. 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 05:12 | 1791290 Element
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But if you give me a pile of mouse clicks I'll rape the land and send you a ship full of high grade anthracite.

Greatest and most destructive scam of all time.

 

Alan Jones - Nat Press Club Address (yesterday)

http://media.theage.com.au/news/national-news/alan-jones-vents-on-coal-s...

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 01:10 | 1791630 steve from virginia
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All the countries are in debt because 'work' and 'business' don't pay. The only profits are borrowed. Businesses are collateral for debts taken on in the business' name.

The customers of the business have to repay the loans, that is, labor has to pay the loans ... which are the business owner's profits.

Loans are necessary because most business activity has no real purpose or product other than to waste time and resources, like a casino. The economy IS a casino. In the casino, debt is integral because without it there would be no profits.

Just remember, all wealth is debt: your loan is someone else's wages.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 16:33 | 1794673 AldousHuxley
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casino provides entertainment value.

 

Right economy produces prouctivity and human progress so that we don't have to live like damn animals.

 

Economy is the wrong hands (aka. banksters) produces casino like environment like today.

 

All wealth is control. Be sure to give that power to the right people so will progress society not Steve Wynn who will give you cheap entertainment.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:08 | 1791077 Thomas
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Indeed. I agree with you guys. He starts out sounding like he gets it, and then he talks his book. 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:41 | 1791317 IQ 101
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So? I would take a gangster over a Federal employee any day of the week,

At least the gangsters are straight up and when they ran Vegas, that was a town worth a visit, not a theme park scam factory,

Sinatra rolls in grave.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 00:15 | 1791515 Freddie
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I think the progression was Italian mafia and some Jews (aka Moe Green aka Meyer Lansky) then Howard Hughes bought them out and now it is Jewish and Israeli Mafia hand in hand with unions and Democrats plus local Dem Mormon Vegas/NV types like Harry Reid.

At least when the Italians ran the place, Don Rickles got that shit beat out of him on the casino floor by Joe Pesci. That was real entertainment.

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 03:20 | 1791736 SAJ
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Sadly, you confuse fiction with reality. "Moe Greene" was Mario Puzo's synthesised version of Benny ("Bugsy") Siegel, not Meyer Lansky.  Siegel quite literally turned Las Vegas from a desert bus stop on the way to LA into (the start of) an enormously profitable enterprise, and, residually, a major city.  However, his project -- the famous Flamingo -- did not pay off quickly enough to satisfy his financiers -- various arms of organised crime -- and Siegel was duly assassinated.

Lansky's interest in Las Vegas was only tangential; he and Ben Siegel were boyhood friends, and Lansky helped Siegel get part of his initial financing.  Lansky was MUCH more interested in either getting gambling established on the East coast, particularly in Miami, or in partnering with the Cuban government in the 1950s in establishing big-time gambling in Cuba.  Whether a partnership was ever formed and effective is now moot:  whatever partnership may have existed ended forever when Castro came to power.

Wynn may have inherited illegal bingo games and such from his father, but it is absolutely undeniable that he and a few others reinvigorated Las Vegas in the 1980s-1990s, after it had stagnated badly by sticking to an out-of-date business model. This story has taken a curious turn, too, one that Puzo would probably have written a good story about.  You saw, I assume, WYNN's quarterly report today;  Macau is enormously profitable, while WYNN's Las Vegas enterprises are showing very weak results.

By the way, and just FYI, Steve Wynn has been a lifelong Democrat, and contributed heavily in the past -- if no longer -- to that party.

All this information is easily verified, parts of it going back as far as the Kefauver Commission in 1955-56.  There is no need to, nor any point to, spreading silly stories that are demonstrably untrue.

Best wishes.

 

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 18:01 | 1794956 Libertarians fo...
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Now, THAT, is a high quality post that reminds me of the original Zerohedge before it was infiltrated by lower brain stem freaks.

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 00:27 | 1791549 Oh regional Indian
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Well, Sinatra was a gangster too, of course, sure everyone knows that. He's probably shovelling coals into the hell-fire right now (hopefully).

But them gangsters, they are everywhere. More everywhere than you can even imagine. And many like Wynn above are beholden to them for everything they have. 

Regulatory capture is all well and good. Knuckle-duster capture is more....secure?

ORI

OWS Flash De-mob

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 01:12 | 1791634 Milestones
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You obviously rolled around L.V. when I did. I lved in L.A. and dated a sect. for the L.V. Dist. Atty. Compted everything from the boss. Black entertainers had to stay in No. L.V. then,--even Ella & Armstrong til Sinatra got that squared away for Sammy Davis Jr. 62 I believe.

Vegas is shit now, and in 10 years w/o water L.V. as now configured is gone.      Milestones 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:49 | 1791033 mtomato2
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Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:26 | 1790970 Dr. Engali
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Because he is interfering in business. If I want to go to Vegas on a trip I shouldn't be lectured by the CEO of corporate United states. It's my choice where to go for entertainment.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:37 | 1790996 chet
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What did Obama say about Las Vegas?

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:45 | 1791022 Dr. Engali
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Maybe mr. Obomanoide you should google obummers comments on Vegas. Lecturing people not to go and shaming businesses for going. But I get people like you. You only hear what you want to. Research and reality hurts too much.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:48 | 1791034 chet
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"When times are tough, you tighten your belts," Obama said while giving a speech at a New Hampshire high school Tuesday.

"You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage," he said. "You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college. You prioritize. You make tough choices."

That's what's got your panties in a bunch?  Sounds like common sense to me.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:06 | 1791073 Dr. Engali
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Keep researching. So in your book it's okay for the president of the United states to lob criticism at an industry. To shame people and corporations for enjoying themselves in a perfectly legal manner they see fit. But you have no problems with him holding a fund raiser there on the tax payers dime. Typical Obamanoid hypocrite.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:55 | 1791193 chet
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"At a town hall meeting the president described the behaviour expected of the heads of companies that receive a federal bailout. “You can't get corporate jets,” he said. “You can't go take a trip to Las Vegas or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayers' dime."

How dare he!?!  On the contrary, bank execs using bailout money to go to Las Vegas should have received the President's full-throated support!

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:04 | 1791221 Bay of Pigs
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Sure Chet. It's all about Vegas.

Do you really believe that pathetic bullshit Barry serves up?  

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 03:03 | 1791727 Christophe2
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I think there are 2 issues:

a) Obama is a liar, a cheat and a manipulator (but evidently, he has to be partly truthful to be effective)

b) Las Vegas and gambling in general PREYS on people - it is a form of entrapment and it is reprehensible

=> this doesn't mean gambling should be made illegal (since then it would just go underground), but it certainly should not be encouraged or glamorized, and more to the point there should be constant messaging about the incredible stupidity of gambling.  So what if thousands are employed to prey on their victims!?  Just like with smoking, the less of it there is, the better off society becomes, even though some jobs will be lost.

 

Side note: here's a math lesson very few people ever learn or figure out...  If you have just flipped a coin ten times and you got heads each time (1 in 1024 odds), what are your odds of hitting heads again on your next flip? 

Answer: 50%, just like always.

=> ignorant gamblers almost invariably believe that 'their luck will/must turn', that a string of bad luck must end up balanced in the end, confusing statistical (aggregate) average with individual cases...

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:08 | 1791076 nmewn
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I hope your not saying Obama has common sense.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 01:02 | 1791610 DeadFred
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Ban him then! Ban him from ZH I say!

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:27 | 1791078 i-dog
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"You don't go starting another war [or 3] when you can't even pay your current bureaucracy," he [should have] said. "You don't blow a bunch of cash bailing out bankers and auto manufacturers when you're trying to save for social benefit obligations. You prioritize. You make tough choices."

Sage advice, Mr. Obomber!

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:31 | 1791122 azusgm
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Farther back in time. Think AIG.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:42 | 1791014 Mugatu
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Proof that even a blind man can see whats wrong.

Legally blind that is.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:05 | 1791224 karzai_luver
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Just as warren of omaha could always pay more taxes so Wynn of Lasvegas could always pony up some of that BLLIONS he has to help his poor poor little workers maintain their standard of living.

 

Oh by the way wyinnner what is the fair wage to maintain a fair standard of living anyway?

 

what a doofus clown he and owebama deserve each other.

 

two criminal clowns in a pea pod.

between him and Mortie of ny I can't tell which one had the bigger man crush of the messiah.

 

talk about your jilted lovers spat, get a room.

 

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:02 | 1790715 nope-1004
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I care what he has to say, only because he himself can create more jobs than anything Oscama can dream up.

Well said Steve.  And yes, I did listen to the whole thing.

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:40 | 1790845 Manthong
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BUT.. he calls himself  "a Harry Reid Democrat" so, he's right about this and he has created jobs - but he owns the problem even though he has a few solutions.

Oh, and what would Mr. "Harry Reid Democrat" Wynn say about this gem today: 

- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Wednesday indicated Congress needs to worry about government jobs more than private-sector jobs…

"It's very clear that private-sector jobs have been doing just fine; it's the public-sector jobs where we've lost huge numbers, and that's what this legislation is all about," Reid said on the Senate floor.

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/188443-reid-says-public-sector-jobs-must-take-priority-over-private-sector-jobs 

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:59 | 1791056 clymer
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Yeah.. I live in Massachusetts. Truly I can't wait to see the local economy after casino revenue takes the state legislature campaign funding top-spot. Sure MA has long gone the way of corrupt state govt., but we did have at a time the best network of colleges, spawning high-tech and manufacturing and bio-tech companies like fertilizer. There was a time when MA was a place to be; The 80's baby! (I was just a kid) The Cars, Aerosmith, J. Geils, Polaroid, DEC, Wang - the 128 belt was the silicon valley of the east. Now we have our last great hope for balancing the state budget; casinos. I can just picture the local papers in North Central MA advertising for "Bartenders", "Black Jack Dealers" and all of the blight from the tax revenues diverted back to combat the social affects in the form of addiction clinics and counseling centers.

What the fuck kind of economy can casinos produce anyway? The entire Nation has entered the terminal stages of a mental, moral and spiritual decline

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 23:11 | 1791373 Temporalist
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Yep and Hairy Rod was completely wrong.  Typical.

 

Sen. Harry Reid Misreads Facts on Public/Private Job Losses

"The private sector has lost 6.3 million jobs, a 5.4 percent drop, since December 2007, while the public sector has only lost 1.8 percent, or 392,000 jobs, in that same time, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics."

http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/15897

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:12 | 1790746 traderjoe
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Who makes money on the gambling habits of others. 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:30 | 1790980 LasVegasDave
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You're right.  Gambling should be banned. 

I guess the 100,000 jobs Steve has created arent enough for you.  Or green enough, or morally acceptable to your worldview

You, loser are a cancer on society.  Along with the TBTF banks, the K street lobbyists and members of congress.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:49 | 1791072 Getagrip
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180,000 TSA positions have been created by our government. They produce nothing but angst and public humiliation-and we (the taxpayers) pay them!! What a great return on investment-ugghhh! At least Mr Wynn -a private business employer who generates private sector service jobs in a real economy is  voicing his concern-regardless if you agree with gambling or not ( I Don't support gambling, but I do support free private enterprise )....   

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:10 | 1791079 prodigious_idea
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Funny how people stake out their positions early in the conversation.  You in the gaming industry or hotel?

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:08 | 1791242 Bay of Pigs
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No, what's pretty clear is some of you guys have never run your own company.

Wynn has his issues, but defending Obama on anything about jobs is Beyond the Pale...

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 23:13 | 1791379 traderjoe
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Left/right bullshit? Really?

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 01:49 | 1791548 buyingsterling
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We're broke and one side of the paradigm wants to massively increase spending and taxes. Give them a pass and they have a seat at the reorganization of society that follows their destruction of it. Look at the $4 trillion budget. Defense is enabled by the go along to get along dependency state, and most of the rest is pure bribery for power and control. Now look at the authorship of almost all of it - Obama's control freak predecessors. He's the Preparation-H icing on the cake - it looks good, but once you get a taste of it you want to vomit. Thus his new moniker: President Puke. He spews it and induces it, all in one fell swoop.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:49 | 1791332 traderjoe
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You are a fucktard. Yes, please equate me to a tbtf bank.

Once he builds his building he merely facilitates the transfer of wealth from one group to another. NOTHING is produced or created.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 00:00 | 1791492 LasVegasDave
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and what do you create other than methane gas?

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:29 | 1790801 DebtBasedCurrency
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Plus his music SUCKS!

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:58 | 1790704 Skid Marks
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Help Make This go Viral..........

 

 

  • "The first thing we have to do is fire Tim Geithner, Eric Holder and force Ben Bernanke to resign.  There is no excuse for not prosecuting all 20 of the largest banks for obvious and demonstrable fraud.  Where is Paul Krugman and his use of the F-word, FRAUD!"

 

Bill Black on Dylan Ratigan Show

http://dailybail.com/home/must-see-dylan-ratigan-with-david-degraw-bill-...

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:41 | 1790829 chunga
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Daily Bail does a great job.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:51 | 1791330 Element
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FANTASTIC Video

Tyler ... please put this up on a page, it's one of those videos everyone should see.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:07 | 1790727 sgt_doom
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Exactly on target, good citizen!

Tell ole Worthless Wynn to buy (thus stimulating the economy) David Graeber's outstanding and scholarly book, Debt: the first 5,000 years and study the graph at the top of page 366, and also study pp. 369-370.

While I'm no fan of President Obama and his neocon administration, Obama is responsible for peddling hundreds of trillions of worthless credit derivatives, thusly causing all this debt and deficit problem!

Wynn is a typical wussy, probably why they call him Wussy Wynn.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:20 | 1790772 SilverIsKing
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"They call him Wussy Wynn?"

Who's "they?"

I've only heard one person ever call him Wussy Wynn.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 00:59 | 1791604 wretch
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I just called him Wussy Wynn, so that's two.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:14 | 1790737 DormRoom
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Amen.  Where was Wynn for the 1 trillion USD unpaid Bush tax cut.   Or the 1Trillion dollar unnecessary war in Iraq.  And the 1 trillion unpaid medicare cost  left by Bush. Or all the bubble money (money accumulated by the 1% during the bubble years (nasdaq & real estate & commodity)  that went to the top 1%.

 

Taxpayers must demand the bubble money back from the 1%.  Tax them higher. 

 

#occupywallstreet

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:18 | 1790756 bob_dabolina
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How much more do you want to tax them before it's fair?

I pay over 50% in total taxes. How much more do you want before it's fair for you?

BTW I've said this before here. If you confiscated 100% of every single millionaires wealth in this country it wouldn't even pay for half of the current deficit.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:21 | 1790779 DormRoom
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iF your'e a 1% and pay 50% in taxes, you need to fire your accountant. =)

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:32 | 1790791 bob_dabolina
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Not in income tax alone.

There's property tax on the home, property tax on the business, payroll tax, business tax, income tax, vehicle tax, unemployment tax (FUTA), social security tax, state tax....the list is long and distinguished I can't possibly name them all right now. Than there are costs of permits/licenses and such.

Taxes in Fairfield County CT are high. It's roughly $33,000 a year on a $1,000,000 home. That's almost the median income of the average American. Not to mention gas is $4 a gallon and cigs are $100 a carton...most of the cost is taxes. In VA for example cigs are $40 a carton and gas is $3.20.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:46 | 1790841 Libertarians fo...
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In Fairfield county, do you have to pay fake taxes on that fake trading spreadsheet you linked to last month?

Let's assume you made $5M in totally fake trading profits which you posted on a blog to impress everyone.  And let's assume you linked it to another blog (such as ZeroHedge) where everyone was smart enough to catch it.  What taxes do you pay?

Is there a douchebag penalty in Fairfield assessed annually?  If so, I'd recommend you make quarterly payments.

 

 

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:56 | 1790869 bob_dabolina
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There is a comment thread with 100+ comments where this has been discussed on my blog. The thesis of the argument was a "reset positions button" Well, look at the screen shot...it ain't there and this argument is constipated and stale. You can go on the comment thread and argue with the old comments because I'm not doing it again.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VN-Pe4WzZKU/TpyRrolCbMI/AAAAAAAAAic/0r39fQggyb...

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:37 | 1791304 Libertarians fo...
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A "reset" button?  Holy Shit!  You've got a "reset" button? That's incredible. I think you just solved John Paulson's problems!  Forget dark fiber and digging tunnels from Chicago to NY, just give JP a handy "reset" button. Viola!  Master of the Universe, again. 

By the way, I thought "constipation" was a peculiar adjective until I gave it a second thought.  You're so full of shit, it's actually the unintended pun of the day.

 

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 00:25 | 1791546 piceridu
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Hey Bobby...you are completely full of SHIT!
You're a lying sack of shit! and you're shit out of lies.

 

 

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 00:45 | 1791556 IEVI
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No need to waste your time going to bobbyboy's pathetic little blog. Here's a link to the screenshot before he altered it and cropped the Reset All Positions button out.

http://imgur.com/a/xui01 

 

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 00:51 | 1791587 IEVI
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I just clicked on the link you posted above. Unfortunately that is not the screen shot in question. The one that proved you are a fraud is still on your blog.

http://tradeonfire.blogspot.com/2011/09/with-all-drama-all-i-got-was-thi...

and here it is before you cropped it and after I exposed you

http://imgur.com/a/xui01

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 16:49 | 1794741 fuu
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<golf clap>

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:53 | 1790880 AldousHuxley
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that's because you are not an elite.

 

elites don't work. they live off of capital gains at 15% and hire folks to make the money work for them.

 

if you work for a living you are still a serf. you are NOT a capitalist. you are labor. you do not own your means of production out right. And of course elites are holding upper middle class hostage saying, " you see slaves, you are making the all these hard working professionals pay half of money to taxes. he worked for it. we must bring the tax down." While giving a doctor $10,000 tax cut, billionares save millions

 

It doesn't really matter what the absolute percentages are. what really matters is that the capital gains is taxed at nearly HALF of labor wages. Of course capitalists are going to pull ahead over time. ESPECIALLY with Central banks backstopping all the down side risk.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:27 | 1790975 Fake Jim Quinn
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"Of course capitalists are going to pull ahead over time".

Really? That's news to me. I guess all investments pay off. Like the fact that nine out of ten new businesses fail.Or that stocks have not appreciated in 10 years.

Capital should be taxed differently. A worker risks current income; an investor risks years of income.

We want capital formation. It creates things. And to that end it should be taxed at lower rates. I am not the 1% or even near it but I appreciate the people who take risks with their savings as most small business people do.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:30 | 1791121 AldousHuxley
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Why create anything when you can sit on your ass and just keep eating bigger share of the wealth pie?

Price
Change Dividend
Dist. Rate Total
Return Inflation Real
Price Change Real
Total Return 1950-2009 7.2 % 3.6 % 11.0 % 3.8 % 3.3 % 7.0 %

people who take risks with their savings never become elites. you eventually need to borrow capital. in case you haven't noticed, most of top 400 richest american families either inherit family empires or at least inherit upper class upbringing and/or some sort of a family business.

Small business IS NOT capitalist when you don't own it outright. Does it make you an entreprenuer yes, but not a modern day capitalist. A capitalist is one who has the money, not the one who is beholden to a bank who lent them a small business loan. Just like a middle class person with mortgage is not a true homeowner (just leasing from banks). Rich don't get mortages buddy. In fact, they will be ashamed to have a mortgage. That's the difference. They might be neighbors, but one is beholden to a job for 30 years to live in a home and the other is free from any productive work when he owns a home outright.

So small business doesn't make you elite that's why they get exploited too.

 

Stocks didn't appreciate in last decade because elites took much so middle class spent all of their income paying back mortgages and student loans. But look at it from 1950s. Your grandparents versus elite's grandparents. because that's what determines your socioeconomical status anyway.

Look, if you are investing on your own, you are not an elite. If you don't have a family office managing your account, you are not even wealthy enough to be bothered by private banksters. Stop voting for the interest of top 0.01% but for your own god damn family.   You can express appreciation on your own, but I don't want to pay higher taxes than that no good whore Paris Hilton you understand?

And these folks are not taking personal risk. sure they can lose money...lots of money. But they will never starve. When you lose your job, when your entire department is eliminated, when your entire factory moves to China.....in your 50s....you are done son. Go back to poverty class and live off of government welfare. Because you just let the elites take your job and give it to poor desparate slaves in Chindia for pennies on the dollar. The scary part is that there are too many of these desparate slaves that we will be killing each other for crumbs. Then brightest of the bunch will decide it is not worth it and will start to advocate for socialism then communism. The rich has got to learn to be fair. When the game is rigged nobody will watch the game and the true atheletes are hurt.

 

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:23 | 1791278 Montgomery Burns
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I'd give you a billion ^ arrows if I could. Unfortunately lots of retards just refuse to understand. I would guess that there aren't many (if any)of the real rich reading ZH.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 01:36 | 1791663 buyingsterling
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"what really matters is that the capital gains is taxed at nearly HALF of labor wages."

Amen. Labor shouldn't be taxed at all. That's like taxing life - we have to work to live. Tax the hell out of short term capital gains, and capitalists will start thinking long term. Free labor from taxation and people will work more.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:58 | 1790893 Eally Ucked
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What a retard! Examples are excelent!

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:40 | 1791145 Adrenaline_Jockee
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I own my own company and it pisses me off come payroll time -- paying double fica and Mcare !!

 

I bet 1/2 of the 99%ers don't even know employers kick in just as much SS and Mcare as they do.

 

 

 

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:09 | 1791243 karzai_luver
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one word......................MOVE IMBECILE.

 

well ok 2 but who counts after all the bullshit you shovel?

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:51 | 1790872 Melin
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"If you confiscated 100% of every single millionaires wealth in this country it wouldn't even pay for half of the current deficit."

Even if the entitlement class were willing to understand that simple fact, it wouldn't stop their envy and it wouldn't stop their demand that even more be taken from their fellow citizens.  They've been well-trained in the Marxist arts.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:22 | 1790964 FEARTHESHARK
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Well, the proposal that has been on the table for over a year is to increase their federal tax rate by 3.6% (on taxable income over $250k) and apparently that = Socialism. 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:17 | 1790764 mynhair
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Define 'unpaid', asswipe.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:59 | 1790900 Socratic Dog
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"Taxpayers must demand the bubble money back from the 1%.  Tax them higher. "

Do you listen to what he said about corporate taxes for non C-corps (S-corps, partnerships)?  That's me, sunshine.  Put in my entire life savings, fed 35 mouths, everything back into the company, and now broke and with taxes to pay on many hundred thousand dollars of income that DOES NOT EXIST, and never did exist.  Get it?  A smart accountant can't save me, it is set up this way.  I am "the rich" according to the government.  And I'm fucking broke, with a balance sheet well in the red.

The system is fucked.  And Wynn is right, simplistic garbage like "tax the rich" is, well, simplistic garbage.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:12 | 1790939 nmewn
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"Where was Wynn for the 1 trillion USD unpaid Bush tax cut."

What the fuck does that even mean?

The part that always gets left out in this stupid phrase is they keep on spending more that they don't have to spend. 

Its called governmental baseline budgeting...the governments budget goes up year after year no matter what the economic enviroment with zero constraints...

>>>BECAUSE OF BASELINE BUDGET ACCOUNTING & DEBT MONEY ISSUANCE<<<

Did your income go up this year or last year to match expenditures...why should governments?

What you're really saying is, this government is committing suicide...at this stage I say so what.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:16 | 1790950 Eally Ucked
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Is Steve jewish?

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:26 | 1790972 nmewn
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I dunno...Reids Morman & Pelosi has to be a Wiccan...I guess that all counts at some level ;-)

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:34 | 1790987 Eally Ucked
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Yes, probably you're right. They have Sabbats and Steve has Sabbaths, not a big difference.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:52 | 1791043 nmewn
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Wiccan's have Sabbats?

I thought they just went naked, running through the woods (and Congress) screeching about the need to not read 2,000 plus word texts that would effect eveyone elses life forever.

Huh...learn sumpin everyday ;-)

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:30 | 1791119 citizens divided
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...and Cantor, Boner and McCon ill would be the devil's spawn?

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:52 | 1791181 nmewn
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Anyone who votes against the people is a marked man...some are "useful idiots" in the short run.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:31 | 1790981 WonderDawg
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Great point, nmewn. It's such a scam. The politicians talk about spending cuts and such bullshit, when what they are really saying is we'll reduce part of the increase we've already planned into the budget. It's all smoke, mirrors and piles of shit.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:58 | 1791057 nmewn
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Its a complete pile of shit WD.

They set this fucker up to fail almost a century ago. Yeah, we'll make a cut over here in the baseline growth of this or that...rub our hands together and call it an "honest" days work...as the entire thing keeps growing.

The first clue is they exempt themselves from anything they pass on the rest of us.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:48 | 1790861 CH1
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Geez, you guys are never happy with partial progress. Isn't it nice that he turned in the right direction?

People don't have to be exactly what you think they should be. We are not political officers.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:34 | 1790986 citizens divided
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Stevie is a bit disingenuous. He knows very well demand, consumption and credit have vomited tainted debt all over Merika. His "two Israeli gents", whom bought high, understand this as well. With the same unproductive, corrupt lenders continuing to suckle on the government teet, forever extracting wealth and resources from an ever greater percentage of potential Vegas junkies and continuing to get paid for layering fraudulent leverage (even virtual bets...even Stevie could appreciate "the house wins") on all of U S. Stevie is correct to be worried about a for-profit insurance health care scheme that only continues to spiral out of control in a "feed the beast frenzy" which cuts more consumptive demand. Not really a betting man but I'm thinkin that if Stevie is yet highly leveraged, his awhole is blinking and sounding shrill danger spurts that have manifested in recent rants. Still, his take during his insider selling soiree near the top should hold him over.

This resonates for the traditional "left" because this is a classic instance of overweening corporate power -- but it's an issue for the traditional "right" because these same institutions are also the biggest welfare bums of all time, de facto wards of the state who sucked trillions of dollars of public treasure from the pockets of patriotic taxpayers from coast to coast.

The banks and Global Elite (Stevie) know this. They know they have no "natural" constituency among voters, which is why they spend such fantastic amounts of energy courting the mainstream press (twisting causation) and such huge sums of money lobbying politicians on both sides of the aisle.

The only way the J. P. Morgan's, Goldmans, Citis and B of A's of the world can survive is if they can suck up popular political support indirectly, either by latching onto such vague right-populist concepts as "limited government" and "free-market capitalism" (ironic, because none of them would survive ten minutes without the federal government's bailouts and other protections) or, alternatively, by presenting themselves as society's bulwark against communism, lefty extremism. The corporate state has created a closed system, the likes of which is defined by polarization, gridlock, and political charades and those allowed a mega-phone continue to hip-thrust the lowly rubes.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 01:30 | 1791655 Nero
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citizens divided   said:

"Not really a betting man but I'm thinkin that if Stevie is yet highly leveraged, his awhole is blinking and sounding shrill danger spurts that have manifested in recent rants."

Bingo, I think we have a Winner............Steve is A Gambler and probably a "House Of Cards" too.........

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:52 | 1790684 Dr. Engali
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I'm certainly no supporter of Bush or the repubs,but when it comes to spending and corruption they were pikers compared to this group.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:43 | 1790834 Rynak
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Umm, i dunno - last time i checked, spending just forever went up exponentially, regardless of which puppet or puppetparty was on the stage.... basically, if you include moneyprinting and hidden accounts, you can just pick any administration, and a say "look, he's spending more than the previous guy".

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:48 | 1790862 Dr. Engali
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Hey. I don't support any of the fuckers. But numbers don't lie. Obummer has spent more in 2.5 years then Bush did in eight.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:56 | 1790891 Rynak
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Yeah, and bush spent how much more than the administration before him? And the next administration will spent how much more than O?

Get a grip.... the numbers just ever go up, regardless of which crooks you elect.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:21 | 1790960 Dr. Engali
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Again Obamanoid. I wasn't defending bush or the repubs.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:12 | 1791256 karzai_luver
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doc it's exponents look it up.

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 01:32 | 1791660 Rynak
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*head @ wall*

Listen you moron: That you claim to not defend some guy, does not change at all, that you were attacking a specific president, for having spent more, than the one before him - implying that it someway is a matter of president how spending is done - when in fact, the cold hard stats are a nice exponential curve, that shows no relevance of parties or presidents at all.

So, can we please stop with this hypocritical nonsense, of hiding behind "hey, i'm not DEFENDING x, i'm just ATTACKING y relative to x, even when the historical numbers show no relevance of x and y at all!"? It's the same bullcrap, as some people here claiming, that they're beyond the left/right dichotomy, yet constantly attack one part of them.... and when then someone else points it out, then it's again this lameass "OH, i'm not DEFENDING x, i'm just selectively attacking y!"..... riight, bullshit.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:55 | 1790694 Getagrip
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Give him a break, gambling revenues are really down. He's just trying to draw folks away from the wall street casino back to his casino. My heart goes out to all the legit gambling industry trying to get by...

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:13 | 1791086 Pike Bishop
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Yeah. At least his business doesn't pretend the intention isn't to take all of your money.

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:46 | 1791169 AldousHuxley
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Vegas does offer better odds...

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:59 | 1791350 Element
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And dancing girls ...

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:13 | 1790748 fonestar
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agreed... Obama is nothing but a joke but he didn't start this.  Decades of stupidity and bad policy.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:22 | 1790781 SilverIsKing
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What has he done to fix the problems?

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:34 | 1790810 mynhair
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Oweblahma has made it worse to draw attention to it?

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:36 | 1790814 fonestar
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Nothing at all, I can't even stand his speeches.  Asinine and totally dishonest, he speaks as if he is lecturing and driving home "key points" to some grade school students.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:57 | 1790896 AldousHuxley
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don't bother with speeches. They are lying politician's most powerful tools. Look at what he does and votes for they are the achilles heel.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:50 | 1791036 mynhair
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Ya, who cares what is on the Teleprompter?  A 5 yr could out debate the Kenyan.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:37 | 1790995 Getagrip
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What's worse is that our "electorate" voted for him. So the question begs, is there any hope for  a nation that would put a man named Osama Hussein Obama-(kinda sounds like-Osama bin Laden) in office based on a campaign of "change" (a worn out platform). My concern is that we have become a nanny state for those who will not work for an honest living...  

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:16 | 1791265 karzai_luver
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Uhm, it just goes to show how bad the peeps thought the whole deal was looking as that's the only way the country would have deviated to pick a clown of his ilk.

 

Let that sunk in bub. O and by the way, not only is it worse now, but it clearly showed that no matter what kind of clown the country reached for it didn't turn around anything.

 

O and keep this in mind, the next one will be worse.

 

count on it.

 

something is changing wanted or not.

Change always comes you may not direct it, but you won't stop it.

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:05 | 1790919 Piranhanoia
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Nobody is going to let anyone fix the problems,  Let's stop dreaming.  And since they don't care about fixing the problem, it will never happen.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:02 | 1790913 meizu
Wed, 10/19/2011 - 23:10 | 1791369 Element
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Nobel peace prizes for everyone! Frweedum has cum all ovah da dumbed down whirled!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8c86Q0fUT0&feature=player_detailpage

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:22 | 1790966 Jupiter
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I am in full accordance with condemning Steve Wynn for not having had voiced his concerns towards an exploding government largesse earlier.

But in all honesty, many from the Left, Right, and Outer Space are waking up to realize that they have serially duped by elected leaders.

I therefore am somewhat elated to observe individuals across the country begin to question the entire system than any single aspect of it.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:28 | 1790978 Jupiter
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I am in full accordance with condemning Steve Wynn for not having had voiced his concerns towards an exploding government largesse earlier.

But in all honesty, many from the Left, Right, and Outer Space are waking up to realize that they have serially duped by elected leaders.

I therefore am somewhat elated to observe individuals across the country begin to question the entire system than any single aspect of it.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:44 | 1791020 vato poco
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Yeah, what the fuck does Steve Wynn know anyways? It's not like he was ever a murkily-payrolled community organizer, or an unpaid occasional guest lecturer at a law school, or ever voted 'present' on any bill that required a set of nuts to yea or nay, right?? Businessmen should leave the governin' to their betters, and keep their mouths shut & mind their business, lest.....oh, i dunno....lest they find the IRS all over their ass or the Justice Dept. (LOL) filing suit against them for any/everything under the sun.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:51 | 1791039 beaker
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Well, back then everything was ok... until it wasn't.  The math still worked then. ;-)

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:53 | 1791046 Everybodys All ...
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Point well taken on GW and I will not defend his spending or Chris Cox, Ben Bernanke, and Hank Paulson appointments. He was never a fiscal conservative and yet neither were the democratic alternatives of Al Gore and John Kerry.

Please explain the democratic party fools of Frank, Dodd, Meeks, and others in committee who continually defended and in in fact demanded the need for Freddie and Fannie to give loans to their constituency who are now more than likelyin full foreclosure. I've never been one to defend GW's spending but you will have a hard time convincing me the democratic party is or has ever been the fiscally responsible party between the two. Look at the the party's plans right now after all that we are going through and the differneces are quite stark and in that the democrats want to continue the keyensian style spending model which is putting us on the path of Greece.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 21:54 | 1791190 Eireann go Brach
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CaptFufflePants..Captain fucking fluff muffler trousers, you just fucking wish you had the money this guy had, you jealous idiot! He probably makes more in a minute than you made over the last 3 years!

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:17 | 1791268 Yen Cross
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 Building a " HEGEMONY" , In  [ MACAU ], sounds about right!  Thanks for the interjection!

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 01:10 | 1791628 Freddie
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Sorry Obama voter but you are wrong and I have no love for Bush and loathe phony Democrat Wynn..  It was the Dem in Congress particularly the Congressional Black Caucus and Barney Frank protecting Franklin Raines at Fannie Mae.  They attacked the OFEO oversight of Fannie and Freddie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

These loans and mtgs were given to everyone thanks to CRA, ACORN and Community Organizer (Obama) lawsuits in Chicago. They sued Citicrap to force them to lend to illegals, african americans and others who had no chance of repaying the mtgs.   Don't let reality get in the way of your rant dickweed.

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 01:45 | 1791670 buyingsterling
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You're right, but all the things you listed are not the causes of our problems, they are symptoms and/or enabling mechanisms of/for a sick monetary system. Obama himself is both symptom and enabler.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:45 | 1790665 HedgeAccordingly
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good old american CEO's .. they should be leading this country not academics.. 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:51 | 1790680 Chief KnocAHoma
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Chief say "What happens in Vegas will give you herpes. Better to buy a lake home and retire healthy."

wwwblalakehome.com

I am The Chief!

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:45 | 1791023 chet
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"Waaaaaah!  The government is ruining my business!"

The lament of the shitty businessman.  Steve your times are hard because we're in the midst of a titanic fucking recession.  People don't have a lot of money for gambling.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:46 | 1790666 tawdzilla
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OMG

obama must go

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:55 | 1790693 hambone
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Don't kid yourself...changing piece of shit Obama for piece of shit Republican not worth the effort...unless the money, the money, is taken out of the game...unless congress critters and the army of lobbyists are utterly reformed.

Don't hate the playaz...change the fucking game.  Otherwise elections are a joke.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:22 | 1790769 tawdzilla
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So until we change the game, let's keep the Marxist, union shill in the chair?  That makes alot of sense. 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:28 | 1790792 hambone
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Hmmm...I'll agree if RP can win, otherwise might as well keep the devil we know and at least Obama'll blow the system sooner so the recovery can kick off that much faster.  Remember, all spending comes from congress...changing the prez will not change the spending or laws passed w/ no funding allocated.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:10 | 1790935 Getagrip
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Even if RP doesn't make the finals, he's led the "awakening" in amazing fashion over the last several years. It's better to be in a position to independently wake folks up, than being front and center going head to head with a bought and paid for Congress/Senate. I wish him (and all that are trying to educate people) God Speed. Time is running out-Pronto.... 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:20 | 1791271 karzai_luver
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Do you come up for air at least once a year.

 

The pugs would rather elect owebama than paulie and the 99% is not in favor of anything he has to say.

 

You clowns blow any chance of being thought sane with thei b.s.

 

It may be good or bad , but his stance is roundly laughed out of any debate I have seen.

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:32 | 1790808 Citxmech
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No, until the game is changed it won't matter who is in the chair.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:47 | 1790859 madddmaxxx
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They are more or less all the same. They just waste money in different ways.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:19 | 1790770 mynhair
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Re-elect Oweblahma!

Vote Rue Paul!

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 22:21 | 1791272 karzai_luver
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hair you ass pugs would vote for o before paul even if he stole the nom.

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:47 | 1790668 zorba THE GREEK
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You can't say Obama isn't creating jobs.

Since he's been in office, the  unemployment offices across this nation

have hired thousands of new employees.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:54 | 1790691 Hansel
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Following the White House RSS feed, you will also see Obama creates jobs.  Here are some of the latest:

  • David J. Chard – Member, Board of Directors of the National Board for Education Sciences
  • Larry V. Hedges – Member, Board of Directors of the National Board for Education Sciences
  • Hirokazu Yoshikawa - Member, Board of Directors of the National Board for Education Sciences
  • Freddy Balsera - Member, United States Advisory Commission on Public Diplomacy

Tell me those don't sound like cushy government jobs.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:24 | 1790786 SilverIsKing
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Not just cushy, they're super cushy!

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 00:18 | 1791523 Yen Cross
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 Great quote....

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:48 | 1790671 mynhair
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Guess we can put Wynn's vote in the anti-Oweblahma column.

Waiting on that dip Denninger.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:51 | 1790676 bob_dabolina
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Obama is a jive turkey. What else is there to say?

I'd rather have Chaz Bono running this shit.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:36 | 1790682 mynhair
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To day had lots more bogus rumors, that count?

Kudos on editing.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 19:45 | 1790850 bob_dabolina
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Kudos on commenting on my editing

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:53 | 1791045 mynhair
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Tanks.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:35 | 1790989 A Nanny Moose
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Jive turkey? This close to Thanksgiving?

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 23:18 | 1791394 OneEyedJack
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PLEASE, be careful what you ask for

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:50 | 1790678 dlmaniac
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"spend and bribe the public has bankrupt this country"

+1.

 

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:50 | 1790679 Dr. Engali
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As much as I agree with him on many issues he misses the broader point...It's the debt stupid public and private.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 18:53 | 1790689 mynhair
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It's the quality of voters.  Just ask a Rue Paul supporter.

Wed, 10/19/2011 - 20:40 | 1791006 A Nanny Moose
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What does a street named Paul have to do with voting?

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