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A Strange Chart, In More Ways Than One
Everyone and their mum knows by now that Italian bonds have rallied since the first LTRO and we are told that this is symptomatic of 'improvement'. While we hate to steal the jam from that doughnut, we note Peter Tchir's interesting chart showing how focused the strength is in the short-end of the bond curve (which we know is thanks to the ECB's SMP program preference and the LTRO skew) but more notably the significantly less ebullient performance of the less manipulated and more fast-money, mark-to-market reality CDS market as we suspect, like him, the CDS is pricing in the longer-term subordination and termed out insolvency risk much more clearly than the illiquid bond market does, and perhaps bears closer scrutiny for a sense of what real risk sentiment really looks like.
Via Peter Tchir of TF Market Advisors,
First, the graph is strange because I had a lot of trouble formatting it. My apologies. But there is a reason I have sent it.
The “dotted” lines represent the Italian government curves back in November. The “solid” lines are the shape of the curve today. The “orange” lines are the bond yields in bps, and the “yellow” lines are the CDS spreads in bps.
Back in late November (pre LTRO and more SMP), the CDS spread was lower than the bond yield across the board (we could look at Italian bond spread to German bunds, or Italy CDS spread to German CDS). We have seen a very big move in bond yields. Yields have moved lower across the board, with the front end outperforming. CDS has moved tighter, but not by as much, and the curve when from slightly inverted, to slightly steep.
In fact, CDS spreads are now higher than bond yields (significantly so) in the 1 to 3 year range.
It would tell me that the less manipulated market, less subject to non mark to market accounting, has been less convinced by the move. I would hate to say “smart” money vs “dumb” money, but a bigger % of investors in the bond market are not subject to mark to market and are not subject to being right in the short term (or with all the bailouts – being right at all). We have also seen evidence in Greece, that the ECB’s SMP program likes the short end more than the long end, creating another artificial buyer, and they are DEFINITELY senior. So maybe CDS with less manipulation is a better assessment of risk. Since that tends to be fast money and mark to market money, it is interesting to see how much above bond yields they are willing to pay (though liquidity is low in sovereign CDS too). Maybe the CDS market is already pricing in the subordination that will occur if there is another crisis. The bond market can’t help but be pulled to the level of the ECB bid (though SMP has been quiet for 3 weeks), whereas CDS can anticipate the impact of subordination if things get bad again?
I’m not really sure what the answer is, but think this is worth watching (though in this market, the ECB will now finally get permission to sell CDS, or ban it, because who wants anything out there not fully controlled by the central banks).
The trend is clear in this additional chart of CDS-Cash basis for some of the European sovereigns - CDS has been notably underperforming all the way through this rally - especially in Italy.
Charts: Bloomberg
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I think the gay boy cartel got mad when they saw ron paul so they played the silver and gold game.
The gay boy cartel meaning Timmay and Ben?
No European sovereign will ever default in ISDA terms, so I think the CDS are way too pricey.
There might be a CDs credit event as early as tomorrow.
Yeah, for sure. Like monkeys flying out of my a**.
Why do you think that a CDS event might trigger tomorrow?
OT: Do not worry fellas, Beard Monkey rules "no bubbles anywhere". ROFLOL!!! Just like back in the days just before everything imploded, this wizard didn't see bubbles.
Fed's Bernanke says Fed does not see any obvious bubbles in economy02-29 12:24: Fed's Bernanke says Fed does not see any obvious bubbles in...
What was not clear though was the definition of economy. Unsure if he meant AAPL or Russel 2000.
jam stealers!
In related news:
No f...ing way there's gona be a credit event.Never,ever. Understand that the CDSs are made and designed by/for the sellers. Dig it or stay away.
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