Summarizing Wall Street's Kneejerk Response To The NFP Report

Tyler Durden's picture

Little surprise to the payroll report on Wall Street, which is now united in its call that the only option is for the Fed to do more QEn+1

From Reuters


"It wasn't a shock today. The president who wants to get reelected doesn't care what you think of him right now. He hasn't done enough to try to create jobs and it's been obvious. Next Thursday when he comes out with this speech that's what he'll concentrate on.

"Going into a three-day weekend, people have been nervous, the international markets were all down so you're going to see a down market, especially in the morning. One of two things will happen - people will sell in the morning, close positions and get out and take 3-4 day weekends and the people left in the afternoon will be those looking for bargains, or we'll have a whole day of people looking for selling and start again on Tuesday. The last couple of days in August were good, it saved us from a disastrous month. The reason for that was money managers, whether a mutual fund or hedge fund... did a lot of window dressing and bought stocks. I think a lot of that is being undone."


"Most people were expecting a weak report, so there's not much surprise there. I would have liked to see slightly better number to give risk a boost and provide better levels at which to sell. It does provide more ammunition for the doves on the FOMC. The bottom line is that the worse the data is, the more likely it is we get additional QE. That will keep the dollar heavy against the yen and Swiss franc, and now we're even seeing it weaken a bit against the euro and sterling."


"In a nutshell, this is the great goose egg economy -- a big zero, a big nothing -- and this better be one hell of a speech next week. There is a plethora of bad news. You have what is going on in Greece, you have lawsuits potentially coming today or Tuesday against the banks. You have the Fed in a Wall Street Journal article overnight asking Bank of America if they are going to be OK if things get really bad. There are a lot of confidence issues in the marketplace, the jobs number only made things worse and people wonder about this jobs number and its correlation with Philly Fed. That is scary. My only question is why the market isn't down more?"


"The economy is slowly grinding to a halt. The problem, however, on the policy side is that I wonder whether the numbers are truly weak enough to galvanize a political response.

"To me, the major take away from this number is that it keeps policy in limbo -- it's bad but not bad enough."


"These days finding green shoots is like squeezing water from a stone. With the number coming in at 0, and the prior revised 32,000 lower, the Fed has gained greater political ability to enact a version of QE3 at their meeting in September. We see this as terrifically bearish for the dollar, bullish for gold and bullish for euro/dollar. QE3 will accomplish two things - assets in the U.S. will be further inflated, and the weaker dollar will help U.S. multinationals as their foreign earnings will inflate on the weaker dollar."


"You have to look at payroll in the context of the confidence numbers. In August, you had Congress imploding, a U.S. downgrade and a hurricane. It was a pretty rough environment for confidence on the consumer level, let alone on the employer level. It makes sense the numbers are bad. It's a bit surprising that they were this bad. But I think it was discounted. We saw some people buying Swiss francs already last night, though that's also driven by significant concerns about Europe. The poor U.S. jobs report doesn't help, of course, and now we're looking at a 3 percent move in the Swissie, so it will be interesting to see what the SNB does. The dollar should remain rangebound against the euro, probably 1.42-1.4350."


"It's clearly disappointing, although we were looking for a very low number. Part of the weakness is the Verizon strike, it wouldn't be quite as bad without the strike.

"There were a couple of encouraging things: We saw a rise in household employment and the labor participation ratio improved.

"We've had several months now that have been well below 100,000.

"The Fed downgraded their forecast for the economy. This justifies what they've done. This looks like an economy stalling out as opposed to falling into a recession."


"There was a special factor of 45k strikers in the information sector, which outweighed a positive special factor of 22k returning government workers in Minnesota after a shutdown. Still the report is disappointing, with a dip in the workweek to 34.2 from 34.3 hours, and a 0.1% dip in average hourly earnings both weaker than expected. Unemployment held steady at 9.1% as expected and the internals of the household report are positive, employment up 331k and the labor force up 366k. Still, the weak payroll internals carry more weight, and imply an economy that while probably not yet entering a double dip, is not growing strongly enough to reduce unemployment."

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Josh Randall's picture

million to one shot Doc..., couldn't have seen this coming

wang's picture
wang (not verified) Ancona Sep 2, 2011 8:52 AM

and WSJ reports on Goldman Inst report


google cache of wsj article here

Goldman Takes a Dark View

A Private Note to Hedge-Fund Clients Gives a Strategist's View; Ways to Gain From Global Pain

buzzsaw99's picture

DUH. The squid wants a selloff so they can get QE. They always throw clients under the bus.

tawdzilla's picture

The wizards have QE already baked into the cake...but it's really only brownies with ex-lax.  

Pool Shark's picture



"..but besides that Mrs. Lincoln; how did you enjoy the play?"


DB Cooper's picture

Nothing happened here, nothing to see - move along now.

Debtless's picture

Long green & black ink.

urbanelf's picture

You should probably throw red ink in there, too.

Debtless's picture

I believe there's an abundance of red ink already up there. 

spiral_eyes's picture

employment ain't going ANYWHERE without reindustrialisation.

when will these too-big-not-to-fail abritrageurs wise up to that, take off their dinner jackets, and put on dungarees? 

Bring the Gold's picture

It's so funny to me. People, usually people with some money, still seem to think that the ruling elite are interested in "fixing the economy". No, they don't give a shit about you mr. upper middle class/lower tier rich just like they don't give a shit about starving Africans. They care about power and control. They also have zero national loyalty. The only reason they are still in the US and Europe is because there is so much ossified capital there and it's more or less their fortress.

So they care about buildings and some of the infrastructure. The people, the "economy", they don't give two shits about an economy that benefits you. They care about their own personal wealth, power and privilege. The days of throwing down scraps of filet mingnon to the lower tier rich and upper middle class are over. The sooner folks get that through their head the sooner we actually have a shot at changing things for the better.

Still having loyalty to the powers that be means they will continue to treat you like a battered wife. They will slowly strip away your assets and then when you have no more power they will show you their true nature at the end of a truncheon or microwave tank. They think with technology and security forces they no longer need you as a buffer. That by the way was all you ever were to them, a buffer from the angry mob. They have a technological buffer now (or so they think) so you are obselete in your one function.

I saw you calling for Martial Law on your website, so clearly you embrace true fascism not the rule of mob anarchy you feared but real DYED IN THE WOOL Fascism. Support that shit and enjoy the late night knock on your door. Oh and quit pimping your pathetic website.

lizzy36's picture

Wall Street can fuck off.

They got us in to this mess.

More QE may bring them bigger and better bonuses.

But can we quit pretending it is going to help the employment rate.

Obama staffed his economics team with all the Wall Street "friendly" people. How did that turn out?


TruthInSunshine's picture

More QE and Bernank's head on a pike.

More QE and former car drivers ride bikes.

LawsofPhysics's picture

More QE, means you will see some great carry trades in fiats such as the Ruble as the dollar gets crushed.

TruthInSunshine's picture

If Bubbles&BananasBernank launches anything other than Fed balance sheet bond maturity date reshuffling, and he weakens the USD, he dooms the Federal Reserve (at least in current composition) and Obama's reelection odds (some would say Obama should be PRAYING for USD strengthening now).

Even people not formerly paying attention know who The Bernank is, if even in a roundabout way. Millions in Texas would lasso The Bernank and BBQ his ass if they got the chance.

Shit's getting real, as a wise man once said.

SheepDog-One's picture

Praying wont do anything to strengthen the dollar. And no way is it politically viable to further trash the dollar over the next year. QE hugely unpopular with the people as well, everyone sees it as simply payoff to the ultra rich.

Carl Spackler's picture

Yes, they can, but Wall Street didn't get us into this mess.

GOVERNMENT got us into this mess. 

Wall Street just fed on all the carcasses created by government.  Now, they are calling fo rmore carcasses to feed on ala Bernanke's hokus pokus.

Cognitive Dissonance's picture


Little surprise to the payroll report on Wall Street, which is now united in its call that the only option is for the Fed to do more QEn+1

Boy, that didn't take long. In fact it's right on schedule.

I can't wait until I have a port inserted into my chest. Mainlining crack fiat bitches.

Smiddywesson's picture

The quote doesn't say much.  Can anyone recall Wall Street ever being against QE?

SheepDog-One's picture

The problem now is politics takes center stage, theyre all drooling over being the first to be seen as being 'tough on rich Wall St banksters'.

QE is wildly unpopular to everyone except the ass hat beggars up above in the article.

BoNeSxxx's picture

Agree but the pols have painted themselves into a corner and their options are severely limited.

Their box is no better than the ChairSatan's.

Do nothing, lose the election.  Do something, lose funding (and the election).

Quaderratic Probing's picture

Everyone who was hired because of QE please post your name below:


Smiddywesson's picture

Well, Southeby's stock is up, somebody must have been trickled upon.

WoodMizer's picture

I was laid off from a cabinetshop because QE3 hiked material costs and rent for my boss.

There were four of us before QE3; now its just my boss and his illegal immigrant brother in-law. Trying to cover 3500 sq ft of overhead.

Version 7's picture

The DAX continues to fall apart: -3.24% at this time

djsmps's picture

Somebody just interviewed on CNBS said that the jobs data shows a softening of the job market, but the second half should do well. I thought we were in the second half.

oogs66's picture

the 2nd half of the 2nd half!

andybev01's picture

'Car Talk' and their 'third half' of the show...

nantucket's picture

the "second half" is a magical thing that exists only in the minds of idiots.  it is as realiztic as a white unicorn that prances through fields of hopium, shits rainbow skittles, and gives free pony rides to everyone.

SheepDog-One's picture

Theyve been saying 'the second half' since 2009!

Cognitive Dissonance's picture

I always wondered where rainbow Skittles came from. Thanks.

TruthInSunshine's picture

Abby Joseph Cohen just said there's lots of cash in the end zone.

Did she mean sidelines?

DoneThis2Long's picture

Abby Joseph Cohen just said there's lots of cash in the end zone.

Wasn't Jimmy Hoffa supposed to have been 'securely' placed in the end zone ? Of the Giants' Stadium ?

She' s been wrong (at least publicly) for so long, she's an ideal contrarian indicator. She was bullish as hell @ the peak in 2k. Anymore bullish and she would have had to wear GS a cheerleader outfit and pompoms. How did that work out? She all but disappeared for a looooooong time after that fabulous call.

unununium's picture

Glitch in the matrix.  They forgot to change the tape.

DoneThis2Long's picture

2nd half of the century - and hopefully they mean this century, which, 10% is already over !!!!

alexwest's picture

#He hasn't done enough to try to create jobs and it's been obvious


are they crasy or what ?

country runs 10+ % deficit of GDP for 3 years in row.. only happened during ww2 and




Smiddywesson's picture

Absolutely Alx.


Mr. President, you ran on a platform of creating jobs, and have spent trillions in that pursuit, however we have lost jobs during your presidency.  Is it your plan to spend trillions more pursuing the same policy?  What are you going to do differently this time and where is the money going to come from for you to even try? 

Smiddywesson's picture

Edit:  The truth is it was never about creating jobs, it was about preserving the banking system and creating votes.

FMR Bankster's picture

They will keep doing the same thing and print the money up. If not they wouldn't have appointed this a** clown Krueger as chairman of his economic advisors.

Kayman's picture

What are you going to do differently this time - Well we tried the Hope things get better thing. Now we are going to try that change thing.


where is the money going to come from - well, I'll ask my Squidman Timmy

DoneThis2Long's picture

Throwing $ @ a problem, w/o targeting it was not the answer. None of the programs had a back-stop, so the aid stayed here. Yes jobs were surely created. Just not here. Asia is not exactly suffering, Canada doing OK, Germany .... fine thank you, Brazil ... okee dokee. The US .... unless you worked @ the US Mint, running the printing presses ... punt.

Once the rates got to 4-5%, the politicians should have taken a good hard look at all those moronic deals signed & approved, whereby our markets can be, and are, wide open &  flooded with products made through subsidizing and sold in manipulated currencies, yet, our products exported to them are taxed and exposed to volumes of regulations and red-tape. we are pissing into the wind. While American intellectual properties are being bought on the open market for nickels & dimes in the form of dying corporations, Americans either are not allowed to touch shares of certain foreign countries, OR. must take on partners who own the majority. My bro-in-law tried to export a product into India .... yeah .... the tax was more than the item sold for. Good-fucking-luck, yet, they operate with impunity here and behave as if doing so is a God given right - many openly (now) even laughing at us.

John McCloy's picture

Fat chance with oil @ 87.00 and silver @ 43.00

  They better surround Gadaffi again every morning next week pre-market. Maybe S&P 900 will get some breathing room for QE.

SheepDog-One's picture

Oil too high, gold way too high, stocks ridiculously high, dollar far too low...100 other reasons why a diamond encrusted QE is not doable. 

Id fight Gandhi's picture

All true.

Obama really needs to press the jobs more, nothing else matters. No jobs and higher Dow and $5 gas won't get you reelected. Looks like qe3 is becoming less likely or a tease.

ElvisDog's picture

Wow, isn't that true. If I was Gadaffi, I would make my peace with Allah. He has to think that he's going to be sacrificed sometime close to next week's speech.