The "Sunday Bazooka" Dud: Complete European Council (Lack Of) Conclusions... And Libya Scapegoating
Remember this from Sarkozy on Wednesday: "If there isn't a solution by Sunday, everything is going to collapse." Well, judging by the "conclusions" just released by the European Council, everything is about to collapse, because the only "solution" reached is the following: "The death of Muammar Gaddafi marks the end of an era of despotism and repression from which the Libyan people have suffered for too long. Today Libya can turn a page in its history, pursue national reconciliation, and embrace a new democratic future." This is a statement written by the Golum on the left in the picture below.
But at least everything else is taken care of:
Determined action is necessary to maintain financial stability, restore confidence and support growth and job creation. The G20 should approve an ambitious action plan containing specific commitments and measures from all G20 countries to respond to the serious challenges emanating from the current economic slowdown and to ensure strong, sustainable and balanced growth while implementing credible fiscal consolidation
But, but, didn't the G20 itself say eight days ago, "in unusually direct language, say they expected an October 23 European Union summit to "decisively address the current challenges through a comprehensive plan"."
So the latest plan to avoid doing anything is to keep throwing the live grande between the EU, the Council, the G20 and the IMF with hopes it explaodes in someone else's hands?
Brilliant.
Below is all we are going to get from Europe today. There will be no statement.
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Remember this from Sarkozy on Wednesday: "If there isn't a solution by Sunday, everything is going to collapse."
Sarkozy meant neeeeext Sunday... yeah, not this one... everyone misunderstood...
Wow, didn't know the European Council had an "All seeing Eye" as it's emblem. Pretty dang obvious.
yeah, but only crazies think the elites are conspiring to enslave us... /sarc off.
Yup, only crazy people wonder why all Presidents since Nixon (Ford, Carter, Reagen, Bush, Clinton, Bush) have gone to the Grove's retreat. Only crazies discuss the Scull and Bones invention that is the C.I.A. after the WWII coup that Brown Brothers, Hariman (Presided at the time by Presscott Sheldon Bush) launched via funding the Nazi party directly. Only crazy people discuss the fact that the Rockeeller Trust is involved in Bildeberg and the CFR, not to mention the White House and Senate. Only crazy people have noticed that the Federal Reserve uses monetary policy to the bequest and for the benefit of the Major Banking Houses, while the same Banking Houses launder drug money and give the execs million dollar bonuses. Only crazy people see the Congress has not voted in the intrest of the country for centuries, and that Congressmen and Congresswomen are much wealthier than the status quo, not to mention that many in Congress have been practicing illegal acts as often as Al Capone. It is only crazy people that see the US has been in constant war since WWII and never wins a war, but only destabolizes other States. Only crazies see how the Banking Houses fund the Military Industrial Complex to lay wate to the status quo to bring about a, to quote a President, "New World Order". Only crazies.....
....bitchez.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor
Hanlon's razor is ridiculous and the fact that some people point to it as some kind of law of physics is just beyond my ability to comprehend.
Stupidty does not remotely explain the complete and utter destruction of all that has been good in America and free market.
The Reece Committee findings from 1954 are the smoking gun that everyone has forgotten.
I didn't offer it as scientifically rigorous, but it is a good rule of thumb.
Obviously you have never heard of the law of compounded stupidity, which makes sense seeing as it does not exist.
If however it did exist it would say something like :
The stupidity of any individual in a organization compounds to form the overall organizational stupidity. :P
At least stupidity is excusible.
Wilful ignorance is not.
look at that reptilian in th epicture. And no, I'm not talkign Gaddafi.
ORI
Visible Destruction
Libyan expedition and expenditures were a resounding success.
There are no gold dinars to value the Euro, the dollar and oil against as they look for an "ingenious way of providing capital where capital does not exist"*
*Ben Davies
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2011/10/22_Ben_Davies.html
PS: If Iran wants to light a fire under that Twelfth Imam and get him here quick, they had better get cracking on that gold exchange they have been talking about.
Put on the damn glasses!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsZpdUUdd3I
The Federal Reserve Corporation, and its proxie Banking Houses, want a gold standard, because they "have" all the gold.
But they don't want it yet; not just yet.
What is the point in 'having' all the gold.
If you 'have' all the gold it has zero use as money...
Don't forget every president since JFK has been related to the royal family. In fact 32 out of all the presidents have been related , O yes and all prime ministers of the UK are related , wow whats the chance of that.
So Edward Heath is what to Tiny Blair? Great grand uncle fourteen thousand times removed? illegitimate son, grand son? just wondering...
Where does Disraeli fit in?
you forgot to mention the 'mad-shredder', ollie 'baby north' of the border, south,... who held-up in clinton's gov. mansion while the heat cooled down from traveling back-n-forth from near-by 'ap' backing-up the off-loading goods,... this would be u.s. senator -
and ya wonder why the world opens their arm's to the great liberator's ?
Yeah, I saw that. Pretty creepy.
Only 12 stars though?
and on the death of Moammar Gadhafi this excellent article from a Canadian mainstream news outlet:
Read it. Confirms my fears.
I still can't get over Hillary Clinton's reaction.
There is something very dark at the heart of this.
I think no one is safe.
Safe? Shit. No one has been safe since THEY killed JFK. Fuck safe.
I disagree. I can think of a thousand other "world leaders" in desperate need of the mussolini treatment.
We will have to agree to disagree.
I just don't see this in a hopeful light.
I would like to think it is but I fear the result may be worse than what preceded it.
yes every 'leader' (bwankers puppet) in the Western hemisphere could do with a little Mussolini magic-ending... President Obumma is less popular than the total shambles, George Bush. Eaton socialist David Cameron is less popular than the riseable Edward Heath that sold out Blighty to the European Union. Van Rompuy and burrusso are both un-democratically elected Marxist weasels who noboddy would recognise on a polling form and same goes for the entire streets of unelected crones at the UN, IMF, World Bank, BIS, EU Human Rights Courts, NASA, weather bureuas, CIA, FBI, Judges and ....etc
When you have a Vacuum you have a large problem.
$8 Billion in modern weapons are now in the hands of the Libyan - weapons they were never allowed by law - Libya has always been a tribal nation and now you have a problem.
Who kept them apart for all those years, who disarmed them, who socialised them with bribes funded from oil revenues. Well he is dead, a subject of a war crime.
Much like Sadam Hussein who chained the Sunni and the Shiites and kept them on a leash, kept them apart and stopped them from tearing each other apart. Gadaffi used dictatorial fear and oppression to do so. IT worked now it is a vacuum. a well armed and aggressive vacuum.
I give them 6months and then you will understand that the first caveman to pick up a club had leverage. That gave him power and position. nothing has changed except now there is no consequence for Murder and uprising if you hold the gun.
His son admitted as much Sunday in a state television address. "Unlike Egypt and Tunisia, Libya is made up of tribes, clans, and alliances," Saif al-Islam said, warning of civil war if the tribal fabric breaks down. Indeed, Libya is considered one of the most tribal nations in the Arab world.
"In Libya, it will be the tribal system that will hold the balance of power rather than the military," Feb 24th 2011
Buzz- I second that. The world is better without Gaddafi, It is called revolution - and the despots die terrible deaths. Remember Romania in 1989? None sheds a single tear after Nicolai Caucescu. These despots need and deserve to die, and the more violent death the better. They earned it. There is no law during revolution. Revolution is the law.
The Arab Spring may lead to violence against other ethnic groups - so we may regret helping them.
"we may regret helping them"
Are you supporting the American effort in Libya then?
Paying your tax $dollars to support the US's meddling in other countries, picking sides? Do you know which side is right in Libya? What are you still doing in Afghnistan do you know?
And regards "may regret" is that like shoulder shrug, "We fucked up (again), huh sorry" type regret having murdered thousands of civilians?
Keep paying your taxes twatface and sponsoring murder, mahem and anarchy across the globe with your fab' collection of pathalogically deranged human scum at the Dept of Defence in Washington, CIA and meriad other lunatic agencies your taxes fund... wouldn't want anything heavier than "regret" to spoil (spill) your Starbucks and wake you out of your zombie stupour
This wasn't a revolution. This was regime change instigated by the U.S. and NATO.
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=666
Gaddafi refused to do the bidding of the Rothschild-centered global banking cartel in 5 areas:
• A Gaddafi-Centered African Union With A Common Currency Here & Here
• A Gaddafi-Run Central Bank Of Libya Here
• A Gaddafi-Holding Of 150 Tons Of Gold Here
• A Gaddafi-Run Libyan Oil Industry Here
• A Gaddafi-Run ‘Blue-Gold’ Water Reserves Here
So here's the bit I don't get. One minute everyone's queing up to have their photos taken shaking hands with him and the next the fucking blokes dead. WTF
Maybe there was just some unforeseen and urgent need for some spare gold to be moved to another Latin country that's just armed its populace not with iPads and the right to complain over the internet but with RIFLES...
Whichever way you look at it, there will soon be no where and no way to complain without global revolution on a massive scale, because there is no way that what's coming will be acceptable to the masses.
The PTB are shutting you down as surely as they tried to shut down the offshore investment industry so that they could tax you and bail out the banks. Even if you manage to take over an entire country in revolution the rest of the world will at minimum keep you contained there until others join the frey. If Libya is in chaos it cannot possibly have a voice in world affairs. Such will be the case with every country that refuses to comply with the global ponzi. Total collapse is the only outcome now, unfortunately.
It's not like we didn't see this coming. It's not like there was ever any other possible outcome when you think about it...
Your post reeks of mainstream headlines... Its a terrible drug and it makes you stupid.
Let's hope you too receive an early end to your miserable existence for your incredible mind-boggling gullibility (and stupidity?).
No, you're wrong. We should not kill anybody just put them on the bottom of the society to try to survive, let them be kicked, spit on, bitten, and be the life pariahs. It's worse than few hours of fear and then nothing (especially that for most of them not many years left), let them live and experience joys of life, let them have that excitement of living like shit, and their families should experience the same.
Hillary's disgusting reaction to Qaddafi's death, for those who missed it.
Wow, she's really put on weight.
she's always had a fat mouth running on a pathalogically deranged pea sized brain far back as i can remember
Lewinski looks quite attractive by comparison...
The remix is going viral (with added Starwars for the geeks)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpWcTOaSYRY&feature=related
Thanks Hansel! I had not seen that. what a complete piece of shit she is! A fat one at that!
The transitional government leader Mustafa Abdul-Jalil set out a vision for the post-Gadhafi future with an Islamist tint, saying that Islamic Sharia law would be the "basic source" of legislation in the country and that existing laws that contradict the teachings of Islam would be nullified.
"This revolution was looked after by God to achieve victory," he told the crowd at the declaration ceremony in the eastern city of Benghazi, the birthplace of the uprising against Gadhafi began.
http://news.yahoo.com/libyas-transitional-leader-declares-liberation-155513082.html
And hundreds (thousands?) of mind-boggling gullible morons here on ZH praise our government assasinating (more or less) Gadhafi, who brought enourmous life style improvements to the Libyan people, and wasn't killing blacks and "christians" and other ethnic groups.
They praise and applaud the senseless killing of the good guy, and now they bitch about Islamic extremists taking over Libya.
[sigh] Some poeple are just to stupid and gullible to live.
NEXT UP,
Syria,
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.7a1f679ced5b40465c22d8e765ab2046.881&show_article=1
And HELLARY, is Warning IRAN...........a 2Fer!!!!!!!!!!!!
the word on the street was rumpuy wanted to pursue fiscal integration?
obviously schaeuble laughed him out of the room.
http://azizonomics.com/2011/10/23/surprise-surprise/
x
I wasn't aware that Sarkozy is related to Harold Camping. Huh. Who woulda thunk.
I heard the translation was whacked, he said "If there isn't a solution SOMEDAY, everything is going to collapse". Complete hedge. Masterful.
And they are sitting on a lake of swell oil!
yes and Italy and Spain have been sucking on that Libyan lake of oil for decades ..legitimising the rebels and their undue haste to keep the oil flowing is one of the most remarkably skewed 'civil wars' i've ever seen!
It's like trying to depose the US Govt and fly the flag in every press conference to the world you'll keep baking buns and burgers at McDonalds ...these revolutionaries have all the hallmarks of Ronald McDonald that's for sure
Did you not also find it rather strange that the first action of the "rebels" was to form a central bank. When they were being pushed back to Benagzi, they form a central bank. Sure.
And the second thing was to announce the sale of Gold from Lybian reserves to cover "administrative salaries and weapons purchases" just about at the same moment the Venezuelian Reptile starts repatriating it's gold (got physical?) and Tripoli falls?
Nah, coooooooooooooooooooooooooincidences.
Really, and why he is reptile? just info for uneducated.
yes and Italy and Spain have been sucking on that Libyan lake of oil for decades ..the Wests haste to legitimise the rebels and the rebels undue effort to keep the oil flowing is one of the most remarkably twin-headed (two-faced) 'civil wars' i've ever seen!
It's like trying to depose the US Govt while in every press conference announcing to the world you'll keep baking buns and frying burgers at McDonalds ...these revolutionaries have more the hallmarks of Western backed Ronald McDonalds than men on missions like Castro
I was at OWS New York City yesterday and this is my honest impressions of what I saw and from speaking to the protesters.
They are 90% under the age of 25. The other 10% are mostly aging 1960's hippies.
They are 90% white with the other 10% black/hispanic. No Asians or Indians were seen.
They are 70% male and 30% female.
Judging by those I spoke to and the signs, they are 75% democrats and 25% socialists/marxists. 0% republicans, 0% conservatives.
They are hardcore left with a few other causes thrown in (police brutality/repeal drug laws/long live Che etc)
There were 0 Anti-Federal reserve signs. There was 1 sign mentioning Ron Paul (Ron Paul/Barney Frank for president/vice president)
I will be posting more specifics and a link to Photobucket of the 151 photos I took. There were more onlookers and the curious taking photos than the protesters themselves which numbered about 200. I got the feeling it was a zoo, with the cops on the perimeter acting as zookeepers and the average folks like me taking photos of the animals who were more than happy to oblige.
This OWS/99% is complete and utter BS. Nothing good is to come out of this. I predict it will peter out when it becomes colder rather than devolve into violence. The overall impression I got was it was a bunch of stoned slackers out to have a few weeks of fun giving the "Man" the finger.
One last thought...It was a lot cleaner than I thought it would be with 0% urine and feces (though all the restaurants in the area were crowded with stoned freakish looking youngsters waiting their turn to wash up in the rest room.
This is the truth of what I saw and experienced at OWS 10/22/11.
Close to what I expected. Poor, misguided, stoned-off-their-ass souls. Most of them are absolutely clueless about the causes of the mess we're in but don't have anything better to do so why not vent some anger at scapegoat du jour. I wish they'd get their act together and get their asses to DC. Makes me sick to watch them recording on their phones while intentionally provoking the police and then shouting "shame" when the police try to do their job of restoring a bit of order.
You forgot another statistical data from the OWS:
95% are consuming drugs
5% are selling drugs to the other 95%
The fact that 1) one of the participants made a video and a site dedicated to "hot chicks of occupy wall street" and 2) seeing how much attention this is getting says everything one needs to know about the movement
oh and there were 0% hot chicks
Obviously you are Clueless.
The fact that any of these protestors can be stupid enough to align themselves with any poltical party exposes them as clueless. To say you are a Dem AND protesting is to essentially support Wall St.
What fucking idiocy! (75%+ idiocy as per above, to be precise.)
Truth through your eyes, is subjective to your interpretation and your cognitive bias. Since you went to the zoo to see animals, that is what you saw.
Pot calling the kettle black.
You are assuming that he went there to see the animals and not with an open mind.
Not likely, I know, but just sayin...
Yes I did go with some preconcieved notions.
I was right that it was a small group of stoned white left wing youngsters.
I was wrong about how clean and organized the area was and how they were not argumentive at all. They were just happy to sit there with their signs and smoke dope knowing they were safe in the interior of the park.
I was wrong about how happy they were to have their photos taken by the "straights" onlookers and the curious who were laughing at how naive the protesters were.
The cops were as I expected...bored off their asses, but happy to be pocketing all that taxpayer funded double time.
"straights" LOL. I know you mean 'women with big hair.'
"Where's all the lefty anti-war protests now that Julius Obama is in office?"
- Go home anti-war movement... Its easier to hate you when you protest during a Republican administration.
"The lefty dope smoking crowd..."
- Go home dopers... it is an illegal narcotic and you wouldn't want to get arrested doing something so morally wrong. You are keeping the privatized prison system from being bored off its ass. Quit smoking pot and that taxpayer funded double cellmate bonus would take the 'hit.' Want to make a difference? Write your congressman.
"They're all white..."
- We're supposed to hate the 'diversity is necessary' movement, and you are ruining this platform as well.
"They are naive..."
- We all anticipated worldwide discontent and unrest. But your message should first be vetted by the Austrian school. THEN, upon validation....
"Unemployed sponges..."
- Although you have the time, and regardless of why, if you're unemployed you should not be protesting. Only people that remain employed should be heard, and only on the weekends... cuz we work.
Give it a rest, dude. People are pissed and that includes the left... And some are actually there in spite of Obama.
I await the photo album link!
This OWS is a simple method to undercut and control any organized political dissent coming from "the Left." Just in the same way the "Tea Party" got co-opted by Dick Army and the Republicans, so too has this controlled "protest" been hijacked by Soros, Ad-busters and the limousine liberal "Marxists" that are in fact corporatists seeking an unfair advantage in the marketplace of ideas.
There are some real fellow travelers inside OWS that were hired by the State Department to destabilize various governments going back to the Balkan wars and other color revolutions lead by the NED. Do your own research in this department, because you have to come to your own terms with this outbreak of Amerikan political indignation being Kabuki theater.
You will generally find that all those lemmings standing around with their frappuccinos waiting for their student loans to be forgiven are in fact inside a political cul-de-sac thanks to some top tier political strategery. Add a little lame stream corporate propaganda media and its all a 'pig in a poke.' Come Spring, watch as OWS, SEIU and ACORN merge into Obama brown-shirts targeting whatever its corporate masters want. Worse yet, if Obama gets killed by his own people... that same force will be used to call out the National Guard.
'Springtime for Obama and Amerika...'
Thanks for your truth.
I can't understand why you had so many reds.
People must think you are lying.
You do have some "opinion" let them argue about the opinion.
The "reds" rightfully reflect the marxists who troll through ZH.
Excuse me.
Are you plagiarizing Quixotic_Not, or is he plagiarizing you?
Oddly enough... I posted the same question in reply to Quixotic_Not's post which has since disappeared completely.
And, "Access Denied" is all I get at his/her profile page.
My apologies to Clueless Economist, if offense was taken.
I was there yesterday too and think your demographic estimates are off. I'd say at least 20% nonwhite (and definitely one or two Indians). The crowd was definitely older than that -- I'd say 50/50 are over/under 25 years old-- though for those sleeping there it probably is pretty young, although there were plenty of grizzled homeless-looking dudes. Pretty much everyone I talked to was a Gen Xer like me. I talked to almost entirely women there -- I'd say 60/40 male/female to 50/50 split.
You might be right about the political leanings of most of the people there, but anarchism deserves particular mention. I'd guess a fair portion would consider them staunchly independent as well.
Anyway I was there in the late afternoon. Perhaps that might explain our different perceptions. Perhaps I didn't distinguish as much between the gawkers and the protesters themselves, but the fact of the matter is if you're down there in the park you're a participant and adding to the protest, even if minimally.
Neither of our observations is scientific -- here's an online study that is more so -- http://www.fastcompany.com/1789018/occupy-wall-street-demographics-stati...
Again, to my eyes there were many more non-whites at OWS in New york.
I'd say the protest is likely to endure -- as Bloomberg said when his planned cleaning of the park didn't happen -- now it's goign to be a lot harder to do it. The principle reason that it will likely endure, at least in New York and some other big cities, is that what you see as BS -- the hippy rhetoric, the alterna-youth, the sing-a-longs, the inclusion of fringe political causes, are all the cultural and community elements that most people are actually concentrating on when they are there. Sure there are poltical discussions, but pointed political action is secondary to the more nebulous efforts to build a sustainable movement. Also, the police seemed much friendly and relaxed yesterday than they were in previous weeks, though there are certainly plenty of them around. There are also tents up -- which the police weren't allowing before.
Finally, I think it's too bad there aren't more anti-fed, RP, anti-big gov't people there, because there needs to be a trans-partisan anti-corruption push. But culturally, it might be like mixing oil and water, or Tea and Patchoulie oil at your Party...
I was there 10AM to 12:30....so the demographics may have changed slightly by late afternoon. Did you include all the young white guys sleeping? That demo was 100% white I will be posting photos, and I think you will see the ratios I encountered.
There was also plenty of light haired people at the protest.
From the link
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On a personal note, I have noticed plenty of both at the park and the marches.
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To support the claim, a pic with two negroes out of 17 people. Come, maybe three.
Were you able to steal anything from them this time?
Just a few books from the library and a very small potato from the pantry
Allahu Akbar
Allahu Akhdar
It's a trap!
Those guys are crazy. They should be in a Hospice serious
Shouldn't this be extremely bullish with the Bernanke Backstop.
There is none. If there was one, he'd have gone full retard QE3 at the last meeting. He can't. The bullets are gone and he won't get majority support from the Board.
The Chairsatain is only one vote on the Board.
Boo!
so not scary with that avatar
nice tits BTW
I'd have to fire up the crack pipe, drop major LSD tabs and pop some E at the same time and just maybe I'd feel much more aligned with this utter venal dispicable mendacity before I flashed and tripped and saw this horror-show for what it really is only to get a bolt of The Fear and want nothing more than to dissapear -- this shit is absolute vile moist rotting bananas! But instead of getting high I'll remain a most cynical and astute observer and market-shorter.
FUCK THIS GAME PLANET I'mma gonna win! Fuck that I ALREADY WON! ZH WON!
Heh.......
On a positive note, I do like the bit about "reducing the administrative costs", providing that this means kicking all of those that have been in charge to the fucking curb and the unemployment line. Hopefully, the captains are willing to go down with the ship.
Sadly not. Merkel was overheard saying to her aide "Hans you're sure my portfolio is well hedged, correct?" just before she headed home.
No real politicians were harmed in the filming of this comedy.
Gaddafi was a typical indigenous leader, similar to Geronimo, and his fate was similar.
Possibly, but it still takes guts to shake hands with your executioner.
it was one un-elected despot shaking anothers... it's a small club but been growing like cancer for 30 years under the 'leadership' of out of control and bloated 'democratic' Govts everywhere
and we all thought to look out for an obvious Hitler figure... what we didn't see was all Western Govts would breed 100's of the obnoxious little buggers and sit them behind 100's of Govt desks at Environment, Health & Safety, Financial Regulation, Judiciary, Customs and Homeland Security, Dept of Energy and Dept of Defence
The population of that country is about to know what being screwed by bankers is all about. They can kiss all the free perks based on oil profits they got under Kadaffi goodbye.
Yep. Fucking dumb-asses.
Libyan soccer team will be allowed to play the eurocup. That will keep the sheeple happy.
And yes, the ECB will print trillions of euros in exchange for Libya's gold/oil/water...because Libya will spontaneously adopt the euro as currency.