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Nigel Farage Slams Supposedly-Austere EU For Bribing Croatia To Join The 'Bent, Corrupt, And Distorted' Party

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As the central bankers and political leaders of the 'supposedly-developed' world sit back in their chaise-longues sipping mojitos at a job-well-done for today's mindless rally on the back of a slightly lower cost of funds in a facility that already existed but was hardly utilized, perhaps they will cough a little at Nigel Farage's  (the cantankerously correct MEP from The UK) comments today. Describing the process of 'bribing' Croatia to join the EU as a 'bent, corrupt, and distorted' effort, he remarks that he has never seen this kind of pressure. It is remarkable, he notes in an undeniably intelligent-sounding English accent,  that after only 20 years out of the former Yugoslavia, after such a long period of seeking independence, they are now voting to rejoin a 'new Yugoslavia' - a failing political experiment. Perhaps, Van Rompuy and friends would be better spending the money on more mojitos for their friends at the Fed and PBOC?

 

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Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:54 | 1932663 clownfishheaven
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The Euro Ponzi needs fresh meat!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:59 | 1932689 Pladizow
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How much gold does Croatia have?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:14 | 1932755 Ratscam
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as many kilos as there are politicians in the room listening to the most soundest guy on the floor.

Simply ridiculous this unelected European parlament.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:26 | 1932819 Sudden Debt
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Sadly so true.... Not a single guy or woman in The euro parlment is actually elected.... Democracy.... Yeah..... And we suckers take it up the ass because we never "waisted" 5 minutes thinking about it.... And yet they suck our money out, send it to the oliarchs and they all do it for a 0,00001% commision fee which is enough for them to sell everybody out.

Firing squad.... Good

Guillotine..... Good

Revolution...... Good

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:45 | 1932900 redpill
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I love Nigel Farage, he must really piss off all the Eurocrat assholes who like to pretend they are nobility.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:02 | 1932961 Ratscam
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did you look at all the empty chairs in this unelected parlament? Each of them is earning north of USD 150'000 but is not even present to listen to Nigel?
What a big flying fucking circus to put in Monty Pythons,s worde

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:36 | 1933240 Max Hunter
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What a fucking joke.. They are all out doing hookers and blow..  Just like our prostitutes in DC..  Good fucking Jesus in heaven do we need a hanging party something fierce..

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 05:35 | 1934239 gojam
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Unelected parliament ?

You think they'd ever appoint Farage ?

They are elected.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:46 | 1932902 smiler03
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Shame on you Sudden Debt.

Nigel Farage is a Member of the European Parliament and won his seat in the 1999 European Parliament Election.

Perhaps you meant the European Commission?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:50 | 1932922 SAT 800
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I like the way you think. There's an ancient Persian proverb that says; "you have no problems, buy a goat". Because, then you see, you'll have plenty of problems. This reminds me of the European Parliament; don't have enough problems?; make a whole nother government to make rules and taxes for you; then you'll have plenty of problems.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:04 | 1933145 Non Passaran
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LOL.... No elections for EU MEPs?
SD - clueless as always.
But at least he's making a lot of noise!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:25 | 1933205 css1971
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Specifically.

In most countries in the EU under proportional representation you don't vote for the MEP. You vote for the party. The MEPs are therefore not elected, the parties are elected and the MEPs are appointed. The MEPs represent the parties, not the voters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_European_Union#Voting_system

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 04:28 | 1934206 Ghordius
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In most Continental EuroCountries voting is a hybrid in "voting for a Party" and "having a preference in the Party list". So to get elected, you have to bring forth your party first and get more votes than your collegues in the same list second.

Personally (and I am not alone, this is a discussion we are having since 1848 here in Europe) I think this is better than the "first-around-the-post" direct personal vote - because it gives you a broader range of several parties having to form coalitions.

But of course this gets easily misrepresented by people that are not familiar with the system.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 05:49 | 1934243 gojam
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Ghordius,

Pros and cons really.

The party list system can be easily corrupted. Individuals can effectively be imposed by parties on the public especially in the very large European Constituencies.

That said, Farage would not have been elected if it weren't for AV and the Party List system (though I'm not so sure that would necessarily be the case if there were a First past the post election tomorrow)

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 06:11 | 1934258 Ghordius
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Of course, Pro and Cons, and all parties can be corrupted

my preference (and not only mine) for the "continental system" (Israel has it too, by the way) is that the "shelf life" of parties is shorter - I had the pleasure to witness how the Italian Communist Party went from 33% electoral votes to 3% and then disbanded, to give birth to new parties (on the left, of course, including the post-communist Italian President Napolitano).

And yes, Nigel would probably not be in any Parliament with a first-around-the-post system... pro or cons? ;-)

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 07:22 | 1934305 gojam
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Personally, I prefer a hybrid system like the late Lord Jenkins' proposed AV+ system (First Past the Post with proportional "top up") which guarentees direct representation through an elected MP and a degree of proportionality.

Of course it'll be said that the electorate are too stupid to understand it.

I think it's fair to point out as one of the "cons" that it's not only parties that have a shorter "shelf life", the two examples you give, Israel and Italy, clearly illustrate that Governments too have a shorter "shelf life" and are notoriously unstable in comparison to Govs elected under FPTP.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:35 | 1932860 malimujo
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None, our central banker of the year sold it in 2002 - all of it at bottom and become central banker of the year for Central Eastern Europe

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:56 | 1932674 mayhem_korner
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Sounds serious.  They must be threatenin' to take out their olympic hoops team.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:56 | 1932676 homersimpson
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Love the man, but I sure hope he wears Kevlar underneath that vest.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:19 | 1932784 Roger O. Thornhill
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My thoughts exactly. He articulates clearly this vast, unaccountable centralization, where the rights of the individual, on a local level, will be steamrolled over.

It is sad that there is such a concentration of power mad sociopathic politicians who wish to rule us. These gluttonous pigs just see us as numbers and masses to be manipulated in their twisted power game "for our own good."

For those who act as "useful idiots" - cheerleading for these monsters - do you realize they do not give a damn about you or your family - and worse you are simply a pawn in their game to bolster their own personal power. Your life, death or personal misery in this soul-crushing system means nothing to them at all.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:46 | 1932905 Temporalist
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He survived a plane crash...he's bulletproof.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:10 | 1933163 Zero Govt
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nobody is bullet proof and with an unelected police force, Interpol, mandated by nobody even remotely democratic, nobody in Europe is safe either 

we can do one thing to stop the rot... Stop paying your taxes (and funding them and our own suppression)

Zero Tax = Zero Govt

kick the Commies where it hurts, in their budgets

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 11:07 | 1934840 Temporalist
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It's like the Trading Places idea; to hurt the Mortimers most they made them poor.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:57 | 1932683 DaddyO
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It is remarkable, he notes in an undeniably intelligent-sounding English accent,

I could listen to this guy debate for hours!! And to me, he even makes sense!!

DaddyO

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:58 | 1932685 GeneMarchbanks
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Spent my summer vacation in Croatia. This is all true.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:00 | 1932698 Pladizow
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Really, you can testify that this is "all true" after one summer vacation?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:07 | 1932728 GeneMarchbanks
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The people echoed the sentiment of what he said. They are scared for their independence and economy. Only the political class has anything to gain and the opposition is nil.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:17 | 1932745 Ghordius
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"the opposition is nil"
Legit

I still don't understand Nigel's popularity here in ZH

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Oh, junking? If there is no opposition, only fears and concerns? You have high standards of democracy, Eh? Buhuuuu

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:17 | 1932772 GeneMarchbanks
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Money talks. And in Europe people still believe the bankers have it. Croatia at least

'I still don't understand Nigel's popularity here in ZH'

Put it this way: Farage is to Europe, what Paul is to the States.


Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:28 | 1932824 Ghordius
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No way, Paul is a giant, Farage is a midget.
The first tells you only part of the truth,
The second only half-truths.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:29 | 1932831 GeneMarchbanks
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Do go on.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:33 | 1932847 Ghordius
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Another day, ok?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 05:36 | 1934236 Ghordius
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OK, OK, let's just go through this little speech Nigel Farage gives for a few of his half-truth nuggets:

 

- "you are bribing Croatia" (well, it does remind me how Texas joined the US a bit) to join with a 300 m "prejoin package" and 1 million EUR for blatant propaganda - ok, ok, let's call it so, I concede. "Bribing" a country is usually called a treaty between sovereigns, but ok.

 

- "cleverly, you already have given highly paid jobs to the Croatian Elite in the EU Parliament" - now if this is not a slight misrepresentation! The same job as he has, by the way, he tries to give the impression the Croatians were "given" something by the EU and, as usual, he tries to give the impression that nobody in Brussel is "elected", as usual.

 

- "just to show how well they'll be - the ruling class will be...". Again, he portraits Croatia as an undemocratic country with a "ruling class"

 

- "you have EU flags flying all over the country". Of course, the EU puts them there, the Croatians have nothing to say in the matter?

 

- "you have some willing helpers, because the old communists are still there" here again he portraits Croatia as undemocratic because some parties are not the way he likes them (this ties with his hatred for Barroso for his communist past) as if in Continental Europe we would not have communists, ex-communists and post-communists elected by the people) "they all hold all the positions of power" again, this is called a democratic election, Mr. Farage, some people like their something-communist parties.

 

- "there is no free press in Croatia" this is a good one, my Croatian friends particularly liked this (Nigel, there is the slightly little matter with language involved, you know, not everybody expresses their political views in English) on their blogs

 

- "money has been offered if someone finds any Croatian News against joining the EU, there is no debate" - this is simply ridiculous, in Croatia you'll find those who want to join at every corner - there is nearly no opposition to it because it's perceived as a good deal.

 

- "…and if they vote to join the EU…" So, there it is. He is missing the debate in Croatia but at the end he has somehow to smuggle the little detail that it is a decision of Croatia to join the EU - or to leave it afterwards.

 

So again, the Sovereign Country called Republic of Croatia (governed by a parliamentary system elected freely by the people, where the biggest parties are Christian Democrats and Social Democrats in a multi-party arrangement) is since years on the "waiting list" to join the EU, which still is a Club of Sovereign States free to leave it (hint, Nigel, get the UK out of it, nobody will stop you here, you just have to convince your own fellow countrymen). And he hates it. It spoils his idea that everybody should want to leave instead of join the EU. He calls them communist, he calls them undemocratic, he just stops short of calling them idiots (this is more or less reserved for Belgians).

 

he is a demagogue, catering to the tastes and prejudices of his British EuroSkeptic Electors (which are not a majority), that's all

 

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 08:43 | 1934435 zelter
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Croatians want to join the EU because they are promised resultant prosperity by the media and politicians--prosperity they are not going to get--as has happened in every country they enslaved. They are otherwise wholly unfamiliar with the functioning of the European Union.

The rest of your post is utter drivel.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 17:30 | 1936372 Ghordius
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Enslaved? Who? The UK? Finland?
Want because they are ignorant or stupid? Like who?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:34 | 1934723 johny2
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Anyone not able to see the huge difference between Farage and Paul should abstain from voting, as they will almost invariably make mistake of giving power to people who do not deserve that position.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 06:02 | 1934250 Ghordius
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"According to the newest polls (end of July 2011) conducted by the Ipsos-Puls agency, 82% of Croatian citizens would vote at the referendum, with 60% voting in favor of the EU, 31% against and only 6% of those undecided."

http://www.balkanalysis.com/croatia/2011/09/12/from-zagreb-with-love-on-...

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 06:27 | 1934270 Ghordius
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another little detail Nigel does not mention while I think it is noteworthy:

Although it has completed the negotiations, Croatia will have to wait until 2013 before formally becoming a member because the parliaments of all 27 EU states must ratify its accession treaty.

just savor it. every bloody elected parliament of 27 sovereign countries has to find a majority vote saying: "yes, Croatia, you may join the EU".

what will Nigel say if the British Parliament says yes? Oh, I forgot, he speaks in the "unelected" EU parliament... to other "unelecteds"?

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 09:18 | 1937893 BigJim
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Here's the thing, Ghordius - 'democracy' is not synonymous with freedom.

In the West, 'democracy' means the right to vote in 'representatives' every 3-6 years. People compare this with despotisms where they have no say in who rules them, and obviously, democracy (usually) leads to better outcomes for the majority. People clearly have more control over their lives in democracies. So democracy has come to mean all things good in the electorates' minds... and this view is pounded into their heads whenever they switch on the radio or TV or pick up a newspaper.

But if your voter was asked, "which is more democratic - a situation where (say) you and your immediate neighbours decide whether to spend your money re-facing your local roads, or everyone in the entire county votes every 3-6 years for people (whom they've almost certainly never met or spent any time with) who will have the power to make this decision... and this 'representative' will probably choose to re-surface your roads, whether they need it or not, because their step-brother owns an asphalt company, and none of the costs will be coming out of his own pockets? They will look confused... because, you know, democracy = freedom, and so the more democracy we have (ie, more people voting) surely means more freedom.. and yet, here they can clearly see that 'more' democracy clearly doesn't lead to more control over their own lives.

The more people who have a say over how you live your life, the less freedom you have... unless, of course, you are joining a larger polity that has legislated more freedoms into their legal system than the one you currently live under. Can you categorically say this is the case with every country joining the EU? I doubt it.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 08:31 | 1946154 Ghordius
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I see your point and I like what you write - the original argument though was that some of our American Cousins think that Farage is the European Ron Paul and that the Croatian are being "bribed" and "forced" to join the EU club.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:07 | 1932980 Cow
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Half truths?

No, it's not

(that's at least as much of an argument as you have presented)

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:29 | 1932829 Ghordius
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You are mistaking the host for the parasite.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:30 | 1932833 GeneMarchbanks
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How so?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:02 | 1932960 macholatte
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C'mon. We are just a bunch of ignorant Americans thirsty for knowledge. Enlighten us. Opposing views are always welcome. Besides, as you mention, Nigel is quite popular on ZH. So lay it on us, bro. What do you know that we are missing?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 06:16 | 1934262 Ghordius
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thanks for the socratic approach

what would the US opinion of PuertoRico joining the Union as full state be?

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 08:01 | 1934349 bombimbom
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you'd be less ignorant if you get to understand some basic things.

that there's an overall majority consensus amongst european voters that EU is a good thing/idea. despite the EU being largely used by failed local politicians as a an easy scapegoat for their failed local policies.

that EU has always had as is ultimate goal a political union. (all know it except UK which role has always been that of trying to prevent that from happening)

that an EU breakup is the most improbable thing to happen, thus many other things will likely happen before that.

that the death of the € would be pure masochism on the eurozone part. such is the amount of negatives that the few positives literally vanish. that would currently be also masochism for the entire financial world and I think we all saw the effect yesterday.

that if there is a lack of democratic governance in the EU institutions it is not because the EU being inherently undemocratic but because the single state members are reluctant to give up more sovereignity. but they will be forced to do it (mainly in the eurozone) to face the crisis.

once you put all these things together you can easily see why the effect of the global crisis will be that of an acceleration of the process of integration.

p.s. having said this, you all convinced me. and now I hope your hero Farage to succeed in getting England out of the EU. I promise I'll help in the process if I can. someone should point to some petition addressed to "UK government" so I can sign in solidariety.

 

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 09:06 | 1934470 zelter
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Are vermin like you getting paid or doing this out of sheer self-hatred and stupidity?

Edit: Sorry, on second thought you are probably trolling.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 08:25 | 1946145 Ghordius
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Do you live in the EZ or know Croatians? Just asking...

Usually, when the ad hominem come out it means you've won the argument, so thanks

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 05:50 | 1934245 Ghordius
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what I mean is that the host(s) are the USA, the EU, the first world, including a lot of the infrastructure including for example the ECB and of course the peoples.

the parasite is a bit more complex. It's all what profits from the imperial system. To generalize, all that is bigger than what would be if we would not have this huge imperial profits and sweet deals. The MegaCorps, the MegaBanks, the Military-Industrial Complex, etc. etc.

And no, there are no easy solutions to this.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:15 | 1933006 kinganuthin
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I wish Paul had that accent and that driving speech ability.. but noooo, newt makes fun of the media so he's the man now.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:09 | 1933158 css1971
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No.

Ron Paul is mostly a libertarian.

Nigel Farage is a fairly vanilla conservative. Not to say he isn't right about europe, but his other views are socially and fiscally those of a conservative rather than a libertarian.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 21:58 | 1933504 buyingsterling
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You're right that Farage is a conservative, but Paul opposes open borders and abortion. Is he still a libertarian? Yeah, he opposes immigration because of the welfare state, but he also sees value in citizenship, which must have a deeper meaning than residency to have any meaning at all.

Libertarianism is an ideology. You can accept most of it and be more rational than someone who buys it all. Just saying.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:33 | 1934716 LaughingMan
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Common theme is not there politicial view but rather that they are anti new world order and pro mainstreet!

Fri, 12/02/2011 - 08:56 | 1937846 BigJim
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'Libertarian'ism is a fairly broad church... anarchists are libertarians, minarchists are libertarians... even old-fashioned conservatives (as opposed to neo-conservatives) are libertarians, compared to the modern crop of statists we find ourselves surrounded by.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:05 | 1933147 blunderdog
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I still don't understand Nigel's popularity here in ZH.

There's a big crowd here that just laps up the demagoggery.  Heh. 

If you ever want to get a bunch of green arrows, post the video of Santelli screaming "STOP SPENDING!!!!" from the trading floor.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 02:05 | 1934026 longonSpam
Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:36 | 1932866 malimujo
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I can, i live there.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 17:59 | 1932691 There is No Spoon
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inverse musical chairs

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 01:56 | 1934017 palmereldritch
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Politborrow

 

 

 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:03 | 1932713 lapedochild
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S&P should downgrade the Fed, ECB, BoJ and BoE

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:03 | 1932714 Sophist Economicus
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Nigel for President of the USA.   And don't give me that residency thing - it didn't stop the current bozo from Occupying the White House

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:18 | 1932781 SHEEPFUKKER
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Clone Nigel. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:31 | 1932838 XitSam
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Ohhh, interesting point with regards to US citizenship.  Who are the parents of a clone?  The person supplying the cell that was cloned? The biological parents of the cell donor? The host/birth mother? A corporation or university?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:07 | 1932975 macholatte
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Who are the parents of a clone?

That depends on what the clone does. If it becomes a seriel killer and the genetic donors have good insurance, then they are the responsible party. If it turns out to be a lucrative new strain of genetically modified food, then Monsanto gets the royalties.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:05 | 1932719 Carlyle Groupie
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I hope Nigel takes holiday before the Iranian nukes level the the stinking brits criminal empire.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:09 | 1932737 azusgm
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The video offers a jump to Mr. Farage's trip to Croatia. Click on it. It is quite interesting, especially Q&A.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:07 | 1933154 DollarMenu
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Thanks for that suggestion.

You are correct. It is most interesting, and the

structure of the Euro-empire is made more clear thru

Mr. Farage's observations.

We can only hope the whole mess crumbles, and soon.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:15 | 1932762 chaartist
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btw. ZH, how are you?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:17 | 1932770 Lord Welligton
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Well.

Farage is entirely correct.

The EU buys out the entire political, business and professional class of whatever country it wishes to absorb.

They are fucking Greece, Ireland and Portugal.

They will fuck Croatia.

Or more correctly the will get the bought classes to fuck Croatia for a price.

The primary purpose of the EU is to create treason in every country in Europe, and beyond, if they can manage it.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:22 | 1932801 GeneMarchbanks
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'The EU buys out the entire political, business and professional class of whatever country it wishes to absorb.'

Basically what you're saying is they've adopted the Anglo-American model.

You forgot to mention that the first order of business is to saddle them with huge debts and shrink their exports and trade gap ala Poland.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:30 | 1932835 Lord Welligton
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Correct.

But first they will "offer" "development" funds gratis.

And when the people have been duped and the "grants" run out the only way will be to borrow recycled money from German and French banks.

The EU as it stands is nothing more or less than an agreement between Fascists and Communists about how to conquer Sovereign Nations.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:33 | 1932849 GeneMarchbanks
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They already have. You're behind. What do you think the EIB is for:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Investment_Bank#Controversial_proj...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:43 | 1932895 Lord Welligton
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Thanks.

I am now informed of the facts rather than merely having an opinion.

The EU is pure evil.

Given have a chance it will put Pol Pot to shame.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:54 | 1932930 GeneMarchbanks
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It's an idea.

1) Always follow the 'money'. In this world of fiat where debt = money, that is more complex than you think.

2) See who extracts what benefits from their association.

EU is a mass movement. It has morphed into something unrecognizable though:

"Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket." -Erik Hoffer.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:38 | 1933248 Mediocritas
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When I look at the EIB's official logo I see a bunch of guys in a room laughing it up while they smoke cigars, drink expensive booze and ogle at the bunga bunga girls, then saying: "I can't BELIEVE people fall for this shit, hey I know, let's let some 4 year old kid design the logo and cram that shit into peoples' brains through their unsuspecting eyeballs, HAHAHAH!".

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:18 | 1932779 dick cheneys ghost
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here is a utube site with many nigel vid's........u gotta love a guy that tells the truth........

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/ukipmedia?blend=10&ob=5

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:25 | 1932807 Odin
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The cabal is definitely starting to make a lot of vocal enemies these days... The entire reader-base of ZH, for one... With every brazen move they make, more and more people are waking up to their existence, and their insidious positions of power in our governments. This 300 year stranglehold the money masters have had may have run its course... We can only hope...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:25 | 1932814 Seasmoke
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i would sign up for a NWO if Nigel is President of the World

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:24 | 1933040 kinganuthin
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.. again, the kevlar..  30 minutes later he would be replaced with a real dick.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:26 | 1932815 hungarianboy
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Nigel is the European Ron Paul :-)

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:31 | 1932839 spanish inquisition
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After the election they will be given the payment book on their pre accesion aid of 320 million Euros.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:33 | 1932852 vegas
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The only guy in the EU worth listening to. Nails it every time he speaks.

 

http://vegasxau.blogspot.com

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:34 | 1932853 rumblefish
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I like this guy.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:40 | 1932879 malimujo
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Here in Croatia i do not know a single man who will vote for joining EU. But I guess that is not important. The outcome is already known. It is not important how you vote. It is important how those votes are counted.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:43 | 1932891 GeneMarchbanks
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+1

Welcome to the democracy...

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 21:12 | 1933372 PeterB
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Long live Franjo. He would tell those zidovi where to stick their EU

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 22:10 | 1933514 Mayer Amschel R...
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Franjo Tudjman = fascist, rascist Ustashe scum

Zidovi (Jews) aren't the problem; zionists are.  Zionists sponsored Croatia's independence; read ethnic cleansing.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 00:23 | 1933877 PeterB
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Are these the same guys in Palestine?

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 21:13 | 1933373 PeterB
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duplicate

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:20 | 1934684 LaughingMan
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Agreed.

 

Pozdrav iz Kanade!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 18:50 | 1932920 Richard Weed
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Go Nigel Go...!

May God keep you.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:05 | 1932970 ioni
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All nice words and so true, but I so hope it would be someone else than this extreme right-wing cunt talking them.

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 19:28 | 1933054 kinganuthin
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everybody else is too busy dividing and conquering you, and it's working.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 03:53 | 1934179 foxenburg
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Why the invective? Please give just one link to support your view that he is extreme right wing. He is plain vanilla extreme common sense with a good sense of humour. Nothing remotely sinister about him. Of course, these qualities are despised in the upper echelons of the EU. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:07 | 1933155 azzhatter
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If only Ron Paul had his oratory skills we might have progress made in this country. 

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 20:34 | 1933233 alagon
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFILHxS4z1s&feature=related
Evo zore, evo dana, (Here comes the dawn,here comes the day,)
Evo Jure i Bobana. (Here come Jure and Boban)
Evo zore, evo ti?a, (Here comes the dawn, here comes the little bird!)
Evo Jure Franceti?a. (Here comes Jure Franceti?a!)
Na vrh gore Romanije, (At the top of the Romanija mountain,)
Ustaški se barjak vije. (The Ustaša flag is flying!)
Na barjaku sitno piše, (On the flag it is written (without the benefit of capitol letters),
Odmetnika nema više. (That there are no more outlaws/partisans.)
Jure gazi Drinu vodu, (Jure steps into the waters of the Drina,)
I bori se za slobodu. (And he is fighting for freedom!)
On se bori za slobodu, (He is fighting for the freedom)
Hrvatskome našem rodu. (Of our Croatian people!)
Evo zore, evo dana, (Here comes the dawn, here comes the day,)
Nema više partizana. (There are no more partisans.)
Evo zore, evo ti?a, (Here comes the dawn, here comes the little bird,)
Evo Jure i Voki?a. (Here come Jure and Voki?!)
Evo zore, evo dana, (Here comes the dawn, here comes the day,)
Evo Jure i Bobana. (Here come Jure and Boban!)
Oni vode svoju bojnu, (They are leading their battalions,)
Njome biju tešku vojnu. (With them they are fighting a difficult battle.)
Tvoja bojna brani Liku, (This battalion is guarding Lika,)
Biser zemlje, našu diku. (The pearl of the nation, our pride.)
This is the Ustasha hymn.
Wed, 11/30/2011 - 21:12 | 1933371 Undecided
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Ustasha = Nazi

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:19 | 1934676 LaughingMan
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Zionism = Naziism

 

Shut up you Wiesenthal faggot.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 17:28 | 1936363 Undecided
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Nazi learn your history. Also your boy Tito was a Croation in the partizan army so your song is a little confused there.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usta%C5%A1e

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 21:43 | 1933451 Ricky Bobby
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Nigel + an Army is a New World Order I can believe in!

Wed, 11/30/2011 - 22:26 | 1933572 nah
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Obi Wan Kenobi

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EU are our only hope

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 01:33 | 1933990 optionmillionaires
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Folks hero here

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 01:47 | 1934008 saiybat
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Nigel Farage is a typical conservative that points out obvious truths. All of his protests are and will continue to be fruitless; he's just doing demagoguery. Most importantly he's a politician and politicians can't be trusted. Just because someone points out the same problems as you doesn't mean you should go along with them. Karl Marx did an awfully good job at pointing out the problems in the world and he was right about them but his system created a new system more corrupt and tyrannical than the previous.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 03:50 | 1934175 FifthSense
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Aside from him being a politician and former banker (Runs through his family); The UKIP, by definition, is for UK's independence and anti-EU, so of course he won't agree with anything in the EU as long as it's not for the benefit of his nation, no matter how rational or well-meaning it may be.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 02:02 | 1934025 deki
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I am so sick of the Ustashas, Chetniks and Bosnian Mudzahedins, they are all racist scum, they think they fought for Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, they have no fucking clue ...our fucking politicians sold old Yugoslavia for pennies on a dollar to Soros and his friends...ask any Serb, Croat, Bosnian how they live now, 95% can't even make ends meet. Watch documentary "Weight of Chains" and you will understand.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 02:09 | 1934030 PeterB
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Communism was better? Please don't make me mad or I might I rip off your "I love Tito Obama" sticker off your Yugo GV...Bodala jedan

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 02:21 | 1934048 deki
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I never said communism was any better I just said we fought for Soros and his friends...u guys will join EU and get fucked...and for us Serbs well they don't want us in EU which is fine by us.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 07:18 | 1934300 bombimbom
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you will join. even though russia might not like it. you're europeans, you're not a too-big-to-join nation like russia so you're a good candidate. because of the recent past it will take time.

I am in an optimistic mood. I say all will end well. UK will leave the EU (later Scotland, and maybe Wales, will leave UK and join the USofE) so all the english farage's can rejoice singing "rule, englandia!" and fulfill their dream of being the perfect independent US lapdog.

 

 

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 16:06 | 1936019 deki
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Russians never did nothing for Serbs, only our politicians make us think that our "Russian brothers" always got our backs...back in 92' when UN gave us economic sanctions, Russians could have veto it but they didnt...Tito was right when he told Stallin to fuck off as he did to Western Europe and the US. That was the only time in recent history that we were at peace, and as soon as foreign influence comes, all hell breaks loose.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 10:15 | 1934662 LaughingMan
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To be honest no one really wants Serbians as experienced by Kosovo and Montenegro.

Thu, 12/01/2011 - 14:12 | 1935543 falak pema
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Dumbass Nigel Farage, rabid John Bull, political residue of British uber-alles nostalgia of past, as is Marine LePen in France, justifies the disastrous break-up of Yugoslavia with the huge social catastrope it has obtained, for its resident people; plunged into  subsequent xenophobic genocidal war and economic decline. How any self-respecting politician in Europe can use this example to ramp up his diatribe against Euro technocracy is vile navel gazing of the lowest kind.

Fine, Euro land is a monetary sham on which sits a corrupt kleptocratic financial oligarchy. WHat is the way out?

More democratic union of Nation states around a common political model even if it involves euro break up and a two tier system. All Europeans know that going back to political nation state structures in EUrope is an insult to Europe's history, not an ode to narrow national sentiment.  It is also regression when faced with the challenges of the New World Order imposed on the world by the USA and now convoluted by huge continents whose economic power and population base requires cohesive replies from the divided Europeans, not more Balkanisation of the continent. 

Farage, still thinks that Rule Britannia should sing 'divide and rule' to Europe. He is looking in the wrong direction, not forward but backward.

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