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Syntagma Square Suicide Note Ends With Call To Young Greek People To "Hang The Traitors"

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Earlier today, we remarked on the story of a 77-year old Greek, now identified as Dimitris Christoulas, who at around 9 am took his life in the middle of Athens' central Syntagma Square with a bullet to his head. His full suicide note has been released. The note, presented below, ends in a solemn call to arms to "hang the traitors of this country."

"The Tsolakoglou government has annihilated all traces for my survival, which was based on a very dignified pension that I alone paid for 35 years with no help from the state. And since my advanced age does not allow me a way of dynamically reacting (although if a fellow Greek were to grab a Kalashnikov, I would be right behind him), I see no other solution than this dignified end to my life, so I don’t find myself fishing through garbage cans for my sustenance. I believe that young people with no future, will one day take up arms and hang the traitors of this country at Syntagma square, just like the Italians did to Mussolini in 1945"  

More from Athens News:

Georgios Tsolakoglou was the first collaborationist prime minister during Germany's occupation of Greece during the Second World War.
 
The reference has been widely interpreted as a comparison between the wartime collaborationist government and the current government of Lucas Papademos.

 

The suicide occured shortly before 9am, as people went about their business on the square. Christoulas, 77, shot himself while standing next to a tree on one of the grassy areas on the square.  He died from a single shot to the head, reports say.

 

He was a retired pharmacist, with a wife and a daughter. He sold his pharmacy in 1994.

 

Laos head Yiorgos Karatzaferis noted in Parliament that the bullet that killed the man in Syntagma, also hit the conscience of the Greek political sphere. "This is not just a person that killed himself", he said. "This event should make us understand that we have all been behind this, we have all pulled the trigger. What did this man see from us, before deciding to take his own life? He saw shady goings-on, he saw none of those that stole from him and the Greek people go to jail. What else did he see? He saw no help coming his way, as he tried to deal with his loans and debts. What did this man hear from us? He heard that no slack would be given to him, no room to move, while the political parties would get plenty of money. Money they did not deserve"

 

"Death isn't just to die, it's also to live in despair, with no hope", New Democracy head Antonis Samaras said of the event, before adding that "incidents like these are what makes the fulfilment of our duty even more important and even more urgent. We must help Greece out of its current state, we must help Greeks escape from despair".

 

"We have watched all this time as suicides have escalated dramatically in our country, a product of the disgraceful financial policies followed by New democracy and Pasok", was Syriza MP Litsa Amanatidou - Pashalidou's take on the event.

 

Independent Greeks leader Panos Kamenos called for the suicides of those involved in the country's current state. "It wasn't this man who should have commited suicide. Rather, it should have been those politicians that knowingly led Greece to be crushed by this vice", he said.

 

Yiannis Dimaras, party leader of  the Hellenic Citizens' Charriot stressed that "those who have voted away all the rights of this country, those who have given our dignity away, are those that are guilty for spilling the blood of this Greek pensioner".

 

Dimitris Zafiriadis, party spokesman for the Democratic Alliance said that this action was an indication of the desperation that a large segment of Greek society is currently feeling, as it watches its way of life being violently altered".

 

Meanwhile, Pasok MP for Corinthia and former party spokesman Panos Beglitis has come inder heavy fire for his comments while speaking to private television station Skai TV earlier on Wednesday. When asked why no one does anything to help people who are driven to such extremes due to mounting debts, Beglitis repsonded by saying that "in cases like these, we must be very careful when commenting about anything. All I can say, is that this mean was very brave and sensitive. We cannot however connect his suicide with the country's current financial plight. Besides we do not even know if he amassed the debts, or whether his children had a hand in it".

 

The shocked Greek community is issuing calls for a "Syntagma afternoon" later on Wednesday.

 

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Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:11 | 2316651 NEOSERF
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And so it begins...RIP

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:20 | 2316705 HarryM
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Moment of silence - .... I'm surprised they released the suicide note

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:41 | 2316794 caconhma
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The old man is right. The criminals & traitors must hang!

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:46 | 2316802 Harlequin001
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There are still some patriots...

Though they are fewer and older by the day it seems...

This life, at 77 was probably one of the more worthwhile ones lived...

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:27 | 2316966 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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OK, I hate to rain on a dead guy's parade, but killing himself completely fell in line with what the Troika wants (x 1,000,000). If he was willing to die, he should've strapped himself up with a serious quantity of whatever material goes Boom! the best, taking out as many technocrats as possible.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:41 | 2317021 Harlequin001
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Money rules. Get used  to it. Though America may have won its Congress it is English money that gives you your candidates through its banking and business interests. The money knows that when a patriot dies it is the end of the line, the end of a belief, but when a mercenary dies, a soldier, policeman or whatever, they will simply hire another. You can fight all you want but you will never win. Money rules, always, but that doesn't make this mans' attempt to change things worth any the less.

It is just a great shame it has come to this, but that is just the sad inevitablility of this system of financial idiocy.

Coming to a country near you, soon...

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:47 | 2317045 narapoiddyslexia
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I don't know if we can win, but we can crash the system, or at least force an inflection point to appear.

BTFD. The article by Jim Rickards linked below strongly implies that if we simply stop spending money, the system will come crashing down. All of Bennie's plans hinge on our spending more money. By my own simplistic BOTE calculation, if 10% of us who make near the average income [not median income] cut our spending in half, we can Bring The Fucker Down, the acronym for which is, of course, BTFD.

http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/jim-rickards/problem-with-fed...

So, stop spending money, or SSM. Thus,

SSM. BTFD.

Why wait till November? We can crash the system from the relative quiet of our own homes.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:51 | 2317064 Manthong
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How long till we see the same call on the mall?

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:55 | 2317084 Nussi34
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Will be interesting to see for how many years they will still pay his pension!

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:09 | 2317142 DollarMenu
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Yes but, there are all those 'must go' airline trips,

all those 'essential business deal/dinners',

the material shit to appease the unfortunately conceived kids,

and of course, the stack of credit cards,

issued by the TBTFs that make this life so desirable.

The next car/phone/pile of rags/whatever, calls so appealingly;

it is an addiction to the material that requires a land mass tsunami to break.

Home grown what?

Buy local what?

Stay put?

What are you, crazy?

My blackberry is buzzing gotta go....

 

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 17:07 | 2317618 TruthInSunshine
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This is the deceased man's counterpart in Ireland:

 

 

An Irishman Speaks His Mind
Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:05 | 2317125 pupton
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I understand where you're coming from.  I'm sure he thought about that (as he indicated in his note).  However, then his message would be dismissed as the rantings of a lunatic "terrorist".  Now he dies with dignity, and his message has been heard and received.  This approach is similar to that of Ghandi.  His life was sacrificed so that his message could be heard.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 19:35 | 2317956 johngaltfla
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Bingo. And it will be heard.

 

The Latin Spring has Begun
Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:07 | 2317139 Maghreb
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I don't think so he was an old man and going to die anyways soon. All these suicide bombers do is enable the Security Services to crack down all over the place. Syntagma Square ends up on lock down peacful protesters are told to stay out by the millitary. I don't think the Troika gained anything from his dying they had already robbed him anyway. I'm against suicide but it was a powerful gesture that they can't simply write off as "terrorism" or "unrest". It is also a sign to the younger men to get their shit together.........

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:26 | 2317193 americanspirit
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If he had done that he would have been one man, one bomb. This way he may inspire a hundred men and women with a hundred bombs. How many people do you suppose there are in Greece right now who have been diagnosed with a disease that gives them only a few months to live? THAT is what the Troika fears. And they should. Get some perspective. This old man is a hero.

Thu, 04/05/2012 - 23:47 | 2321278 silverdragon
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Yep, Live Free or Die

Thu, 04/05/2012 - 09:52 | 2319202 MrTown3
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Exactly....he kills himself but wants others to do the dirty work?....he died dumb if you ask me

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:27 | 2316967 Ratscam
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Action Group: Close motorway toll collection - great idea!

The greek government built the roads with tax money and later sold it off to to private investors. The investors turned around and started collecting toll fees which are EUR 3.10 one way, a yearly cost of EUR 1340 for the average greek commuter. If this becomes a worldwide trend then short Macquarie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8NodihIfOg&feature=player_embedded

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:58 | 2317093 Maghreb
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They are "paving" the way for it in the U.K as well

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17435114

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:48 | 2317255 steve from virginia
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Greece has been cut away from the Eurozone consumption regime. It's consumption is now exported to core states (which are also sinking).

Countries like Greece -- Portugal, Ireland, Egypt -- are thrown to the wolves so that car industry can survive another day/week/month.

Greece is done, a failed state. Hospital funds are stolen and shifted to finance ... to BMW and Daimler.

Class war all right, between us and our toys. Toys are winning ...

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:05 | 2317127 koperniuk666
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Gas Chambers would be quicker considering how many will have to die, however I feel concerned about their carbon footprint. Does anyone have any suggestions? Bolt guns?

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:38 | 2317382 Dave Thomas
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Just buy everyone an ipad and put them on a morphine drip till they waste away. Blissful broken window exit.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:21 | 2316708 Zero_Sum
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Revolution, bitches. The match has been lit. It's on like donkey kong.

 

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:16 | 2316920 Sabibaby
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The traitors in the US and rest of the world are learning from what's going on in Greece and positioning themselves, preparing for this to come down the road eventually to a city near them. Get ready for the traitors to team up and to abolish our abilities to protect ourselves.

Always make user your muzzle is pointed down range or towards a traitor.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:05 | 2317111 ndotken
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There will be no revolution until the pain of compliance exceeds that of noncomplianace. Unfotunately, (and TPTB are well aware) as we sit in the comfort of our recliners munching on Doritos and watching another season of American Idol, the pain of revolution is but a distant cry in the wilderness inaudible to drugged populace of the United States.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:49 | 2317258 BobPaulson
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Only because they have created a culture that values Doritos more than pride.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:00 | 2317274 AgShaman
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And for this reason....revolution falls prey to the bypass valve that is apathy in the USA.

It takes an alternate path....devolving and heading towards another Civil War

When the rest of the world adjusts accordingly...the USA may receive the benefits of being the cancer of the world...and face being isolated.

We get to stew in our own destructive juices

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:30 | 2316747 5880
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"they said you was hung"

"they was right"

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:33 | 2316758 V in PA
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Tyler, the keywords for this article should also include 'Martyr'. Especially since it is a Greek word.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:32 | 2316760 SheepDog-One
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'A shot heard round the world'? We'll see. 

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:26 | 2316965 mendigo
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dumb ass pointing that thing the wrong way
this is why the 99% are where they are

hangings too easy
may they and their spawn be forced to eat pink slime

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:11 | 2317146 pupton
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Or better yet, how about a circular "human centipede"  People get to have March Madness like "brackets" to see who will be in what order.  I'd like to see Corzine eating some Bernank shit after having been shit out of Timmay...They can all be put on display on the Mall in DC.  Naked.  We can throw rotten fruit at them, spit on them, etc.  Good times.  Or, is that a fate to kind?

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:43 | 2316805 ptoemmes
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Tunisia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Bouazizi

Egypt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Khaled_Mohamed_Saeed

Libya: Too many to list

Syria: Too many to list

...

...

USA: ???

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:59 | 2316858 rlouis
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USA:  James Stack - 

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:23 | 2316948 Sabibaby
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It's a shame so many bullets are wasted on martyrs and not Senators, Congressmen, or Bankers. These people signed up for a job they knew has risk of death for deceit but try to play the risk down as extremist only hold them liable. It has never in the history of the world been too extreme to execute traitors. The scum are trying to change the rules of the game but they will be held responsible eventually as they always have been throughout all of history.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:50 | 2317263 BobPaulson
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The shortage is not in bullets. The shortage is in people with the stones to hold the gun.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:43 | 2317032 Bansters-in-my-...
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"Joe Stack" I think his name was.

Sure could fly planes.

Could land them on a dime.

Even if the dime was in someones pocket.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:21 | 2317340 Phil Free
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Stack
 
A tip ' the hat, Joe Stack.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:42 | 2317398 Dave Thomas
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Don't forget ol Marvin Heemeyer either!

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer

 

 

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:36 | 2317004 johngaltfla
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Just wait until it starts here this summer. Especially on the days where there are brownouts and it is 95 degrees outside.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:38 | 2317012 Bansters-in-my-...
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Maybe he will run into Joe Stack.

Him and Joe wear thier hearts on thier sleeves,literally.

R.I.P

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:27 | 2317358 h0twire
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Huffington Post Tries to Mislead with this headline:

 

Greek Suicide: Austerity Measures In Greece Lead To Elderly Man Killing Self In Syntagma Square

 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/04/greek-suicide-austerity-syntagma-square_n_1402683.html

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 18:04 | 2317748 Marginal Call
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They don't call Airy Anna the Greek Whoracle for nothing.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 18:16 | 2317781 Phil Free
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Umm, who??

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 18:57 | 2317879 Marginal Call
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Ariana Huffington.   Sometimes called Airy Anna to get by the word filters on her site.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 22:56 | 2318351 palmereldritch
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Makes you wonder if Huff Po is going to hold the patent on Agenda 21 environmental sustainability suicide booths

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6PaLiIl6MA

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:13 | 2316664 rocker
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 Didn't I see Goldman Sachs Banners in the protest on the square when it all began ?

 Yes, I did.  Things that make me go Hmmmm.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:25 | 2316728 flacon
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I saw anti-Goldman Sachs banners. 

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:37 | 2316775 rocker
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Sorry, my Bad. That's what I meant.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:13 | 2316669 PSEUDOLOGOI
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check.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:13 | 2316672 Banksters
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Tick tick tick

 

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:33 | 2316764 CrashisOptimistic
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"Nothing will change until bullets start entering skulls."

He had the right idea.  Bad aim, though.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:36 | 2316995 sessinpo
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 CrashisOptimistic                 2316764

"Nothing will change until bullets start entering skulls."

He had the right idea.  Bad aim, though.

 

Comment:

You got that straight. I posted this so the three Greeks that visit this site will give me a negative (2315852).

I've been right on most of it so far. Use to visit http://www.livestream.com/stopcarteltvgr on a regular basis until I had lengthy conversation from locals in Greece. That is why I consistenty make comments that the Greeks just didn't get it and didn't know who their real enemies are. I do sympathize with them and am sorry to see a local die. It is their country though and they must take it back. Some of you may heard the quote "Economies can be rebuilt, armies can be repopulated, but once a nation’s pride is gone it can almost never be restored." That is the situation in Greece and I hope they find a way to regain their pride. Quote by Savage.

 

Perhaps the fact that this 77 year old was a very young child during the Great Depression that made him more forthright. One of the problems I see here in the US a large segment of the population that has never been through such hard times, thus they don't think it can happen, are unprepared and certainly don't want to make the sacrifices to correct the problem - at least not yet.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:14 | 2316674 Gene Parmesan
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Thank you, Dimitris Christoulas.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:49 | 2316818 Christoph830
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His name is Dimitris Christoulas.....His name is Dimitris Christoulas.........

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 17:59 | 2317738 Demologos
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His name is Dimitris Christoulas ...  His name is Dimitris Christoulas

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:14 | 2316676 RyanW525
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Guillotine Bitchez!

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:23 | 2316724 Pladizow
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Too quick and painless!

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:35 | 2316772 sabra1
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not if a very blunt blade is used!

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:52 | 2317071 oddjob
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Place teeth on curb...stomp on head.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:11 | 2316878 Normalcy Bias
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Drawn and quartered...

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:15 | 2316679 Timmay
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Not that I advocate this position, but wouldn't a more effective display be taking the lives of the perpetrators and then being gunned down in a blaze of glory?

This sounds like the Japanese who rather than be dishonored by the thought of losing or being captured, took their own lives rather than actually go out and fight.

Don't kill yourselves, FIGHT!

Just an opinion NSA data scrubbers.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:18 | 2316689 drink or die
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Then he would be called a terrorist and no one would care.  Remember how all the mideast riots started?  One guy killing himself.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:21 | 2316709 Timmay
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Sooo, the people "hanging the traitors" won't be called terrorists??

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:23 | 2316721 drink or die
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Only if they lose :)

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:33 | 2316766 SheepDog-One
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They always are called terrorists. They were called terrorists in this country in the 1700's.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:16 | 2316683 Ghordius
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If instead of hanging them the Greeks would just vote some honest people to their parliament and rebuild I'd be delighted.

Rest in peace, let's hope your gesture is understood in it's spirit instead of it's letter...

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:22 | 2316717 walküre
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Oh, right! Duh! That's how it's done! Remove the established oligarchy by voting the alternative!

People don't have a chance to vote for "honest" people. The honest people need to kill-off the rats that are on the ship before they can take the rudder and correct the course.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:45 | 2316810 Big Corked Boots
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Yup. The chance to for for someone honest in the US presidential election, for example, has just about evaporated.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:50 | 2317055 Bwahaha WAGFDSMB
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http://www.americanselect.org/

Might be a 3 way race.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:39 | 2316785 agent default
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Get real honest people will not enter the mud slinging fest modern politics is.  Today's politicians are like pigs:  If you wrestle with them you will both end up in the mud, and the pig likes it.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:16 | 2316684 alangreedspank
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Wait, how can government cuts impact his pension if he says it was not a government benefit in the first place ?

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:22 | 2316720 Zero_Sum
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It's not just cuts. It's crushing taxes and inflation that decimate the savings of honest people. Sound familiar?

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:26 | 2316733 alangreedspank
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Absolutely right, but my hunch is that most protestors of austerity actually don't care about the things you mentioned. They want MORE taxes and inflation to pay for THEIR state bacon.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:46 | 2317034 sessinpo
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Zero_Sum              2316720

It's not just cuts. It's crushing taxes and inflation that decimate the savings of honest people. Sound familiar?

 

Comment

I am not sure they are facing inflation but certainly high taxes. The problem that the citizenry have is they have no money, or not  much of it. Dollars are and other things are valuable there. Farmers give away produce at or below cost as people just don't have money to buy. As is there and here and most places, dollars printed are not circulating through the economies. They are staying at banks. Otherwise we would see hyperinflation. Dollars are being stored to service debts and are increasing - a pyramid. Using one credit card to pay off another. Eventually it fails.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:20 | 2317337 Grimbert
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Greek bonds took a haircut a few weeks ago. Who held the bonds that were cut? Greek Pension funds.

When you come to buying your own annuity, you'd best see what it is invested in.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:17 | 2316685 agent default
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This is the precursor of something serious.  Forget the traditional Greek rioting, this has the potential to get very bloody.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:13 | 2316909 blu
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Greek politicians will be taking "unplanned vacations" abroad by Friday, after having already transfered their wealth to Swiss accounts.

Athens will burn anyway. It will end up meaning little for the devils will have flown.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:59 | 2317097 CrashisOptimistic
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How easy was it for him to get a gun?  Gun availability decides lots of things.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:17 | 2316686 Sandmann
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The explosion might not come in Greece even though the tinder is dry. There will be surprises. 3000 attacked the ECB building in Frankfurt the other day - little reported outside Germany; but The Pirate Party has 12% in the Opinion polls which destroys the ability of the other parties to form Coalitions without making the Pirate Party the Official Opposition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party

The Pirate Party of Greece has applied for membership in Pirate Parties International. The application to be voted on by the international general assembly in Prague, on April, 2012

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party_Germany

 

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Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:22 | 2316711 Ghordius
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lol, have you noticed how the German media is already in some cases ridiculing the Pirate Party? No "clear goals" and all that. As if the Greens had "clear goals" when they started...

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:25 | 2316732 Dull Which
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aargh, that be right, me hearty!

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:34 | 2317195 walküre
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What are the Pirate's goals?

We're all concerned about NWO and when you look at the Pirate Party's international exposure and register, it's like they're establishing themselves to be the frontrunner for NWO!!

They're main concern is copyright infringement. Why is that their concern? You know who has a big problem with copyrights and patents? Multinational corporations like MONSANTO.

The rest of their platform is fluff. Do your own DD.

 

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:32 | 2317367 Hicham
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I thought their stance on copyright infringement was that they were against laws that restricted it. Hence they are called pirate parties because they oppose government cracking down on copyright infringement by piraters.

Doesn't Monsanto favour the exact opposite of that? They want stricter copyright laws so other companies can't knockoff generic copies of their drugs.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:58 | 2317429 walküre
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Ok, maybe I misinterpreted that part. But what else is there? They're the flavor of the month or the year?

Thu, 04/05/2012 - 08:42 | 2318969 Sandmann
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http://www.stopacta.info/

ACTA was negotiated in secret and is a threat to fundamental rights and access to knowledge:

* by-pass democracy and establish a repressive standard for policy-making,

* its vague wording can be interpreted in so many reestrictive ways by the signatories and judges,

* harm access to medicines and to essential knowledge in poor countries,

* pushes Internet operators to act as a private copyright police.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 16:04 | 2317447 FinalCollapse
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Ghordius - the FOX spinmasters would add that they urinate on the streets...

Thu, 04/05/2012 - 08:41 | 2318964 Sandmann
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I would love to know what the goals of the CDU are !  Since Kohl made them a quasi-Socialist Party by spraying money at every problem it has degenerated into Merkel pretending to be The ONE Party to bind them all - with no policy incompatible with staying in power.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:27 | 2316741 walküre
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I was curious about the "Pirate Party" and did my DD. At first they sounded intriguing but when you peel off the layers, there is absolutely no substance. At best they're a compilation of existing political philosphies of all parties. Nothing new, nothing original. They would have had my interest if they were outspoken about international finance and the oppression of debt slavery via fractional reserve lending. They would have been original if they were attacking the NWO, had clear statements on 9/11 the biggest false flag in recorded human history and if they had a clear message on the corruption and filth that goes on in Frankfurt, Berlin, London, Zurich and New York.

Too bad. I'm not sure what their purpose is other than perhaps just to cause a political stalemate and a failure to govern Germany because there are too many parties, too many cooks in the kitchen.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:32 | 2316757 Piranhanoia
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Really?   Like the other parties?     The Pirates don't want to kill their own citizens like the rest.  There is one difference that stands clear.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:35 | 2316773 walküre
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Where do you get that SPD, Linke, Gruene, CDU/CSU, FDP want to kill their own citizens? If you compare the formal agenda on Pirates websites, you don't find anything original or new. It's a poor job of copy & paste from mainly SPD, Linke and Gruene.

You should be asking why is the Pirate Party popular when they're really just another Brittney Spears.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:16 | 2317165 DollarMenu
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So, why is Brittney Spears popular?

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:24 | 2317187 walküre
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I could have picked any of the run-of-the-mill Hollywood starletts. They're popular because Hollywood packages them and sells them to us.

Where does the Pirate Party popularity come from?

Their platfrom is neither new nor original! They are not even controversial. Their positions are much IN LINE with SPD, Linke and Gruene. Three more or less established parties. There's no shortage of political parties in Germany. There is a shortage of new concepts, controversial viewpoints and original ideas.

All parties subscribe to the status quo and all parties have supported the recent bailouts and financial "rescue" plans. There would have been so much opportunity to simply stand up and say, enough is enough. Bankers go to hell and we need a RESET and a JUBILEE. But that wasn't on any agenda INCLUDING the Pirate Party.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:19 | 2316695 Rattling Bones
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If the Greeks are as fat, lazy, dumbed down and cowed as Americans are, the Greek traitors have nothing to worry about.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:30 | 2316753 Vince Clortho
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Let's not be insulting the Greeks.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:17 | 2316924 Agent P
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As an American, I will not stand for being called fat and lazy...no seriously, I will not stand...too much effort...I'll remain seated.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:39 | 2317015 mickeyman
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Here in Canada, the cry is: "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it for too many more years!!"

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:33 | 2317371 Hicham
Wed, 04/04/2012 - 16:07 | 2317454 FinalCollapse
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Oh Canada - the Land of Political Correctness...

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 16:20 | 2317483 dogbreath
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too bad for that bus driver

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 19:22 | 2317930 Harbanger
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Just long enough to remember your words. 

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 19:40 | 2317966 Harbanger
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As an American "agent" you did not stand.  So you will sit and wait for justice at sunrise.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 19:39 | 2317964 kanenas
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US has yet to see the riots that have taken place in Greece in the past few years. Both in percentage of demonstrators as well as street fights. With little effect.

 

Elections are coming, then we'll see how it goes. At least there are more than two parties.

Merkel was against elections before finishing off her plan.

The leader of the opposition met with her and explained that unless there is an electionin in a month, with the rate of decline that his at the moment leading in the Polls party had, the next time she was meeting with the Greek PM it would be a left wing 38y old that has been very critical of the whole situation..(going from 25% to 15% in a few weeks time)

Merkel noded. 

Since then, the anti-Troika parties have been hammered by all Mass Media, people are being shown 'polls' that are contradicting the social indications, yet the two pro-Troika parties are getting less than 25% together. Mind you, they used to have more than 65% in the last few elections.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:19 | 2316696 WAMO556
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The Arabs had it right last year - REVOLUTION. This mans suicide was done in plain view of everyone - there ain't no escaping this. Greece is ripe for war, maybe this is the contangion the banksters were actually worried about.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:22 | 2316712 alangreedspank
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They did not get it right. All they'll get is another social-democrat state pandering to different people, stealing from different people to pay for the politicians' vote whoring

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:19 | 2316697 Stoploss
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There's your martyr.

Might want to locate the riot cams again. This changes everything.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:48 | 2316700 TruthInSunshine
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The Rothschilds don't bat an eye. Their subserviant fractional reserve bankers, working on behalf of all the tentacles of the fractional reserve banking network, doing their god's work, think of this as just another footnote out of billions in history, if they take notice at all.

The Greek Parliament is only an illusion of choice. It is a captured tool of the The Money Masters, just as the governments at all levels in Europe and the U.S. are.

Things will only change when The Money Masters not only can no longer ignore this man's plight and the events leading up to it, but face an appropriate level of punishment for their outsized contributions to the perilous state of the highly unjust modern world, where human dignity is sacrificed on the altar of lust and greed, whereby power is the ultimate intoxicant sought by the few who control the fate of many not through meritocracy, but complete and absolute nepotism.


 The Secret of Oz

 

Money As Debt II-Promises Unleashed


The American Dream Film

 

The Money Masters - Full
Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:20 | 2316702 alangreedspank
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Good lesson for you all. Don't get the state involved in anything, because when it withdraws, this is the kind of stuff to expect.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:22 | 2316713 Van Halen
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Here is a video from Ann Barnhardt as to why this is going to go on a lot longer. The video is long and you'll have to keep a barf bucket next to you because quite frankly, it's THAT horrifying. The video ultimately covers everything she's been saying the last few months since she closed her business.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/21578807#utm_campaign=t.co&utm_source=215...

Apologies in advance if someone already posted this. Did a quick scan but didn't see it. Wait - no apologies - this should be posted a thousand times!

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:39 | 2316787 memyselfiu
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Ann Barnhardt needs to be rode hard and put away wet.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:43 | 2316798 Van Halen
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Nice display of sixth grade mentality, you moron. Grow the hell up.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:18 | 2317174 memyselfiu
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....says the person salivating over the hate monger.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:15 | 2316917 Maghreb
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Sorry i'm going to second that this whole thing has "strawman" written all over it. The flag, the brokerage firm the low quality video, and the threats to wipe out an entire world religion. They got wide eyed maniac written all over them. Muslim's ironically are the last hold outs against the entire banking system and the nation state. Major tenents of their religion is to not pay interest and not pay tax above the mandated 5 percent. Taliban and Shabab are basically hard core libertarians with their bibles and their guns how they are conflated with Marxists i will never understand.

This babes just playing to the crowd feels like that Spirit of Truth guy from a few months back...........

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:40 | 2317230 walküre
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"strawman" for what or whose benefit?

She's outspoken on the corruption that goes on on Wall Street and the power grab in DC.

Be honest, your problem lies with her Christian worldview and how she bases her arguments on Christian "values". Sounds to me this woman has "seen the light" in many ways. She is not advocating to kill muslims from what I could hear. But I can't say the same and be 100% sure about our current political crop and bankers.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:34 | 2317373 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Take a look at her web site. She's a kook.

She thinks all the Moslems in the world are out to get us and that the only way to preserve our precious bodily fluids is to launch a nuclear first strike against all countries which are predominantly Moslem.

She even makes Netanyahu look sane, which is a formidable accomplishment.

 

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 18:22 | 2317797 Phil Free
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Kook -- you mean, you aren't one?  You mean I'm not one?  You mean, none of the rest of us are one?  We're all kooks.  Stooge.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 15:40 | 2317390 memyselfiu
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for the benefit of the elites- see hegelian dialectic

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:22 | 2316714 taniquetil
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As if any Greek citizen could afford a Kalashnikov-pattern rifle.

 

Mosin-Nagant, only $69.95!

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:22 | 2316716 PaperBear
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This is absent from the BBC website, no surprise. What about other corporate whore media ?

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:33 | 2316768 Ratscam
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nothing to see in german speaking countries

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:52 | 2316830 walküre
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They're trying to sweep it under the rug for now. Says alot about who they are.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:23 | 2316949 Reformed Sheep
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It's unsettling to say the least. A quick scan of the online versions of UK newspapers is also completely bereft of any reference to the event... Releasing the note is like lighting the touchpaper - I really believe this man's sentiment will reverberate with a lot of people.

 

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:23 | 2316719 Greater Fool
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It was a much-publicized suicide that started things in Tunisia, too. Just saying.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:24 | 2316722 digalert
Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:31 | 2316755 walküre
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This has been going on for years now and it is absolutely disgusting how Monsanto fucked up the traditional farming practices in India. Monsanto is one company that could go up in smoke tomorrow and nobody would miss them.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:18 | 2316927 Maghreb
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You would when that causes a global famine, they got the world by the balls. Word is Bill Gates owns a large part of it......

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:18 | 2317173 walküre
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We grew corn and wheat long before Monsanto. Maybe not a glut of it and maybe we didn't have cornstarch candy bars filling up the shelves and causing obesity but we were able to feed people just the same.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 17:54 | 2317725 Maghreb
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I agree with you but they are incredibly dangerous. We've seen it already with the self terminating seed. If they thought they could get away with it they could try and create a GM Monopoly and produce crops that only respond to their fertilizer/pesticide etc. Cargill and Monsanto are both big parts of the Gates Foundation stock portfolio. I'm not big on the Alex Jones style eugenics population control measures but they are so close to having the parts needed to do something like that. Between them, Glencore and General Mills i think they have a vast section of the World Food supply under control already.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:17 | 2316929 blu
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Monsanto is the Josef Stalin of business. They utterly destroy everything they touch, and delight in the process.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:29 | 2316975 john39
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monsanto is just part of the "umbrella corporation"....  big ag, big pharm, big defense contractors...  all tied to the banks.  welcome to a brave new (corporate satanic) world.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:24 | 2316725 Zero Govt
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I'm not sure hanging the political puppets will solve anything... as we see with Greece, Ireland, ok America and the rest of the globe too, you boot out one pile of crap and in come another pile of f'n rotters

I'm all for a peaceful harmless protest that solves the actual problem, Govt itself

a Tax Revolt ...Stop Paying Your Taxes (don't feed the suckers.. at all)

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:24 | 2316727 Joebloinvestor
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The Greek government shot itself in the head a long time ago.

 

Greeks screwed Greeks then took the money and left.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:29 | 2316744 q99x2
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Sheesh they've got it easy compared to the heros in the movie I'm watching, which is...that's right, "Wrath of the Titans."

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:29 | 2316745 zerozulu
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Protest is expected from the nations with thousands of years of history.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:32 | 2316751 yogibear
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All they need are weapons.

Enterprising Greeks and others can forge their own weapons and ammo. Seems like a huge growth industry,

 

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:31 | 2316754 RoadKill
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If this guy never took anything from the government then how does any of this austerity impact him.

Like the 50% of Americans getting benefits from the government and not paying taxes - these parasites refuse to recognize that they are the problem.

Actually there is your solution.. Everyone stealing money out of my pocket to live beyond your means - please shoot yourself.

Get rid of the AARP beggers, welfare queens and subsidized housing ghetto dwellers, and we have no debt problems.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:34 | 2316767 Piranhanoia
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Do you hate yourself?  Or are you just really simple?

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:37 | 2316777 Confused
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No debt problems? You really don't think the people elected won't find another way to fuck us all?

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:42 | 2316791 lizzy36
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Read much or just pontificate with your brilliant wisdom.

Do you actually understand how austerity works? 

The man paid into the government pension system for 35 years. For 35 years he trusted the system, and contributed to it. Did you some how fail to read that part of his note?

I have no idea what caused you to become such a miserable son of a bitch. I don't care. I do know your lack of basic reading skills, coupled with your lack of empathy, makes you a man not worth knowing.

Here is an idea, move to a different country. Preferably 3rd world. I am going to guess nobody will miss you.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:11 | 2316792 TruthInSunshine
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As a libertarian who values liberty over nanny-statism, and believes Father Government is just large enough to de-incentivize many millions from trying (and that crushes the aspirations of many of the highly talented), let me just point out that two of the largest 'welfare' sectors in the U.S. right now are 1) Manhattan, with its precious too-big-to-fail (and utterly useless to society or the economy; they're actually wealth destroyers) banking and financial institutions, along with other financial/Wall Street parasites sucking on the teat of the taxpayer via the FRBNY large mammary gland, and 2) Washington D.C.-Maryland-Virginia federal worker, government contractor and MIC row, whereby much of the disease that is our current economy, whereby 20 cents out of every $1 spent and in circulation in the national 'economic stream' is the result of government spending on personnel and things that we can't afford (to the tune of 44% deficit spending) and that we really don't need (hundreds of billions in MIC toys that any honest general would admit do nothing but prop up some politician's chances to get re-elected; think Seawolf Submarines/Virginia Class Submarines/F-22 Raptor as just some examples).

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 17:05 | 2317611 e-recep
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very difficult to read. try to use shorter sentences and paragraphs.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 22:52 | 2318349 TruthInSunshine
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If you can't hang with the big dogs, stick to the yahoo stock tip boards.

Thu, 04/05/2012 - 01:46 | 2318653 e-recep
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aye aye, big dawg.

Wed, 04/11/2012 - 18:59 | 2336265 MeelionDollerBogus
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I bet we'd see massive improvement with:

a cut to taxes

a boost to food banks

fully paid-for rent for welfare for any property owner that will accept it (and no requirement to accept it)

a food budget by item not by dollars for welfare

immigration restrictions removed for incoming & outgoing people

BANISHMENT of fractional reserve & mandatory currency / legal tender laws

Just a thought

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:43 | 2316799 Central Bankster
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Do you understand how pensions work in europe? Private sector employees are forced to contribute to public pensions which are backed by greek bonds and stocks. Is it clear how fucked he was now that weve clarified these pesky details?

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:47 | 2316816 SmoothCoolSmoke
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You mean like the the people who beg Bernanke for more tax-payer funded QE so their portfolios can be get manipulated higher.

At least the foodstampers and wefare queens are not hypocritcal about Big Govt.  Unlike most "Sugar Longs" who suck Bernanke's teat at every chance while they bitch about how big the gov't is..

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 14:13 | 2317156 irie1029
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Im new here.... By the way only site i trust... for the most part...  2 questions

What is a Sugar Long???

What the hell is a muppet???

 

Thanks in advance.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:55 | 2316837 walküre
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Get rid of the AARP beggers, welfare queens and subsidized housing ghetto dwellers, and we have no debt problems

You might save a few billions annually but compared to the trillions in subsidies to the banking and military industrial complex, this is peanuts.

If you're concerned about where your tax dollars are going, drive to the nearest army base or federal prison in your state.

Wed, 04/04/2012 - 12:58 | 2316853 Confused
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