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Tensions Escalate With Argentina 29 Years After Falklands War

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As the Duke of Cambridge is due to be deployed to the British territory south of Argentina, the tensions are rising within Falkland Island waters as the Argentinians board Spanish fishing vessels as President Cristina Kirchner has adopted a steadily more belligerent stance towards Britain’s South Atlantic possessions.. The Telegraph is this evening reporting that 29 years on from the last major tensions, Argentina has launched a naval campaign to isolate the Falkland Islands that has seen it detain Spanish fishing vessels on suspicion of breaking the country’s “blockade” of the seas around the British territories. Are we really starting to see escalations in global geopolitical tensions? Our recent discussion of the Black Swan of Cairo perhaps points to this not being as surprising as one might believe. Perhaps more worryingly, Argentina’s claim over the Falklands was backed by a newly formed block of South American and Caribbean countries, CELAC, on Saturday with unanimous approval.


From The Telegraph: Argentina launches naval campaign to isolate Falkland Islands

Argentine patrol vessels have boarded 12 Spanish boats, operating under fishing licences issued by the Falkland Islands, for operating “illegally” in disputed waters in recent weeks.

 

Argentine patrol commanders carrying out interceptions near the South American coast told Spanish captains they were in violation of Argentina’s “legal” blockade of sea channels to the Falklands.

 

The warning has been backed up in a letter to Aetinape, the Spanish fishing vessels association from the Argentine embassy in Madrid warning boats in the area that “Falklands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands and adjoining maritime spaces are an integral part of the Argentine territory.”

 

The confrontation strategy targetting foreign boats marks an escalation of tensions in seas that Duke of Cambridge, a Flight Lieutenant with the RAF, is set to patrol during a tour of duty last year.

 

The Duke is to be deployed to the Falklands next February as part of a routine training duties. Commanders would face the dilemma of despatching the Royal to take part in an operations to monitor or contain the Argentine challenge.

 

President Cristina Kirchner has adopted a steadily more beligerent stance towards Britain’s South Atlantic possessions.

 

A newly formed gathering of South American nations meeting in Venezeula backed Argentina’s sovereignty demands at the weekend.

 

Argentina’s claim over the Falklands was backed by a newly formed block of South American and Caribbean countries, CELAC, on Saturday with unanimous approval. Mrs Kirchner used the last UN General Assembly meeting to put Argentina’s claims of sovereignty over the Falklands on a par with Palestinian claims to statehood.

 

But it is the Falklands economic lifeline that has been most affected by Argentinian manoeuvrings.

 

It announced permits were required by all ships using Argentine waters en route to the Falklands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, all of which are UK controlled.

 

Argentina declared vessels were “operating illegally” in the South Atlantic if they did not request permission to enter Argentine waters. The authorities declared their willingness “to put an end to all those illegal fishing activities”.

 

The vessels, from Galicia, were boarded as they were making their way across the huge Rio de la Plata estuary, which separates Argentina and Uruguay, before off-loading their catches in Montevideo, Uruguay.

 

Mrs Kirchner, 58, has also threatened to suspend a vital Falklands air link — the only one off the islands — which was established in a 1999 deal between the UK and Argentina unless Britain entered into talks leading to sovereignty negotiations.

 

A Foreign Office spokesman said Britain had lodged an official complaint about the Argentine action. “We are aware that Argentina has recently challenged vessels transiting between the Falklands and the port of Montevideo,” the spokesman said. “The UK has protested to Argentina. We consider that it is not compliant with international law, including the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea."

 

Mike Summers, a member of the Falkland Islands legislative assembly, said Argentina was trying to cut the Islands off from the South American mainland. “The Falkland Islands Government has no doubt about its right to issue licenses to foreign companies to fish in its waters,” he said. “There have been other difficulties in recent months with Falklands flagged vessels seeking to use South American ports; Argentina seeks to prevail on its neighbours to implement its foreign policy for it, by denying access to their ports for vessels doing business in the Falklands.

 

UPDATE: a simple yet frustrating mathematical error has been corrected - it is 29 years since the Falklands War NOT 19 years - our apologies. (h/t Mark S)

 

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Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:28 | 1948536 gojam
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Never fear, Prince William is going to be stationed there.

He'll have an SAS regiment there to protect him.

PS, Argentina should understand that the UK can't afford a conventional war at the moment. (that's a fair warning not an invitation)

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:49 | 1948659 wanklord
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That means the Duchess of Cambridge will be left alone for a while...the Wanklord can comfort her during William’s absence.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:53 | 1949033 BigJim
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Yes, I'm sure your wanking will provide her some great entertainment.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:01 | 1948710 Coldfire
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Brave Prince William. Can you imagine the danger he will be facing? (You'll have to, because there won't be any).

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:37 | 1948824 TruthInSunshine
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And the House of the Red Shield stands on the sidelines, and uses their captured media mouthpieces  to plant British Nationalistic stories in the press as to how dare Argentina challenge the long since faded British Empire, as they ready their next batch of ammunition and weapon sales on Rent-A-Center type terms, conditions and interest rates to both England and Argentina.

What a sick joke.

The Falklands. Britain goes to war over some large rocks off the coast of Argentina where sheep outnumber people, possibly for the 2nd time in 30 years.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:56 | 1949048 Things that go bump
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How would you like to go to sleep one night a British subject and wake up a citizen of Argentina?  After the war, a friend of mine went to sleep in West Berlin and woke up in East Berlin.  I can assure you he was not best pleased. 

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 22:01 | 1949303 Doña K
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Al middle class Britts are dying to get out of the UK. Who wants to be a UK citizen?

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 09:55 | 1950542 gaoptimize
Mon, 12/05/2011 - 23:21 | 1949574 UP Forester
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My guess it'd be kinda like going to sleep drunk in Philadelphia 7-3-1776 and waking up late in the afternoon to being an "American," whatever that means anymore, instead of a subject of the crown.  Some will be pissed, some will like it, most won't care as long as they have bread and circuses....

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 09:46 | 1950512 boiltherich
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The few people who do live there are British through and through, they speak English not Spanish, they drive on the left not the right, and they like their bangers and mash not that glop and beefsteak they eat up in the pampas.  Those islands have been British since the first person lived there in 1690.  Post Falkland War in the '80s the people of the Falklands have full citizenship in Britain and that is the way they like it, if Argentina attacks them there will be another war.

No need to disagree, these are not statements of my opinion just facts. 

Kirchner is doing this because she needds to focus attention from the crumbling economy and all of her recent Marxist moves that are causing a lot of problems in the capital.  I knew a guy from BA that died recently and he was a pretty middle of the road kind of guy, but he thought that bitch was better suited to be a spoiled housewife rather than president.  Gotta love South American politics where the wife of a el Presidente gets to run the joint after he dies. 

Sorry, can't side with the Argentines, or should I say the moonbat Kirchner on this one.  Though I have seriously considered Argentina as an alternative to the USA, in this I would ask them to just stop, they are not ever going to own the Falklands unless they buy out every single English speaking resident. 

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 21:02 | 1949075 FeralSerf
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It's not about sheep or rocks.  It's about oil.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 06:09 | 1950238 Chaffinch
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Tyler - it is 29 years since the Falklands War - not 19 years.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 10:00 | 1950561 boiltherich
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Feral, I just realized we can change our arrows.  I accidentally red arrowed you and as a reflex tried to change it and it worked, learn something new each day.

Anyway, sheep, rocks, oil.  We have been hearing that there might be oil there since the last war, yet 30 years later nothing.  Like we heard about all that gas and oil off the Irish coast too, yet all these years later nothing. 

The British spent the equivalent of about 4 million pounds per Falklander on the last war, and lost hundreds of men, 255 to be exact including the loss of the HMS Sheffield, does anybody seriously think they are simply going to just let that PMS prone bat in Buenos Aires take the Falklands now?  This might be her losing poker hand to play but Hugo Chavez is dealing the deck, his influence on the rest of South America is not in the interest of peace. 

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:56 | 1948861 johnu78
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The Royals are nothing more than a bunch of worthless p*ssies!!!

 

-John
http://johnu78.blogspot.com/p/items-for-sale.html

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:15 | 1948917 gmrpeabody
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And you are.....?

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:18 | 1948923 akak
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... precisely correct.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 02:50 | 1950033 macholatte
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The Royals are parasites and the British people, as well as the populations of the various colonies like Australia, who pay money to support the parasites, are serfs.

 

 

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 21:13 | 1949122 GOSPLAN HERO
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The Royals are a tourist attraction ... any money in that?

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 23:23 | 1949578 UP Forester
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Not much, but maybe they can finance something by selling the quarter or so of the Earth's land surface the familia controls....

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:51 | 1949028 He_Who Carried ...
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Where are the Germans in this? Hitler anyone?

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 21:03 | 1949078 gmrpeabody
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If it weren't for your avatar..., I wouldn't give your musings a second look.  ;-)

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 05:00 | 1950194 mutt
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that would be the saxe coburg gothas

or brenda to her chums

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 01:02 | 1953865 boiltherich
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The sex-change-goths? 

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 06:20 | 1950246 TheRagingTory
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Andrew,_Duke_of_York#Falklands_War

His uncle acted as an exocet decoy in the Falklands War, in that, he flew around and *tried* to get shot at, his was also the first helicopter to take survivors off the burning/exploding atlantic conveyor.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 12:34 | 1951115 boiltherich
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Brave Duchess of Cambridge, with Wills away and Wanklord looking to take care of her and all. 

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:10 | 1948731 AUD
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The UK couldn't afford it in 1982 either, nor the Argentinians, nor can the Argentinians now. That won't stop them.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:27 | 1948788 Carlyle Groupie
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The Squid owns a huge chunk of land down there somewhere. I think it's that southernmost tip of Argentina? Don't quote me...

But that fucking little sea creature gets around, ah huh...

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:36 | 1948819 Triggernometry
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So Blockade is the new black?

 

Blockade Wall Street

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:01 | 1948873 Ratscam
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in fact Benetton is one of the biggest land owners, as well is Mr. brilliant front trading Soros via his company Cresud, at least back in the late 90s. IRSA is another vehicle where he was invested heavily although 50% of their revenues came from trading activities done by long bearded guys in sealed offices.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:46 | 1948830 nonclaim
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"That won't stop them."

You know what might? The air force does not have means to defend even the mainland, there's essentially no naval force and the government is actively persecuting the army.

And what force has CELAC?

Chile will stay away, Brazil will be neutral at best denying air and sea spaces again: the armed forces are at odds with the leftist gov (a mock trial of the old generals will start soon, the air force has been denied new equipment for decades and the only carrier has no operational attack aircraft). All other countries are too far away and have better things to do.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:22 | 1948935 nelore
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Cristina was just excited at the Schelep meeting

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:19 | 1948936 nelore
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LOL. The only ahole pushing for this crap is Venezuela and probably Cuba. Old communists never learn. Argentina has no navy to speak of. Couple of destroyers out to do it.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 22:18 | 1949353 dumbfounded
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So Argentina is being pushed into this by Hugo and Raul against their will. Come on…..

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 22:12 | 1949336 dumbfounded
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I think if you look at the balance of power in all domains combined (trade, natural resources, political, cash & military etc) it is clearly not on Britain’s side. I'm not sure that everyone will stand by as idly as you expect. There is tremendous resentment in South America towards the former colonial powers meddling in their affairs. With the air of superiority of Europe and North America evaporating fast in a trillion dollar/euro/pound meltdown, expect a much tougher more self-confident player on the other side of the table, definitely one that will increasingly only play on his own terms. I think CELAC is a tremendously significant geopolitical developments in that region.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 22:23 | 1949370 akak
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The Falkland Islands are not part of South America, and never were "their" affair in the first place.

By that logic, the USA should claim and then invade Bermuda as well. 

(Damn, that's right --- we actually missed a place to invade!  How did THAT happen?)

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 22:50 | 1949459 dumbfounded
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Fair point !

So how do you determine who holds the rightful claim? (I don’t know) If you look at the history of the last 200-300 years a number of players have been in and out and made their claims. You could ask the people that live there is suppose.

At the end of the day it will probably boil down to a cost-benefit analysis by the parties involved and be a matter of what they can and cannot do. I’d still argue that what SA can do is increasing and what Europe+UK can do is decreasing (at least relatively).

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 23:11 | 1949521 akak
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So how do you determine who holds the rightful claim?

Sadly, in international affairs, "might makes right", as it always has.

However, I would say that the Brits' claim to the Falklands is far less "unfair" and much more defensible than, say, Russia's occupation of Sakhalin Island and the Kaliningrad oblast and Karelia, or China's occupation and ongoing cultural genocide in Tibet, or the USA's grossly illegal annexation of Hawaii, or even Danish control over Greenland.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 23:13 | 1949550 dumbfounded
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Again fair point !

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 00:56 | 1949818 Fish Gone Bad
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The winners always write the history.  Then they do their best to erase any and all history of the people they conquer.  Please tell me that you know this and this is not the first time you have heard about it.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 03:33 | 1950098 dumbfounded
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Oh I know. All I’m saying is that I agree that the story of the Brits about the Falklands sounds better than the one of the US about Hawaii or the one of China about Tibet.
How good your story is depends on your control of the information and the circumstances that you have to work with. A native population is one of those circumstances that can kind of bum-up the whole thing.

The Brits wrote a reasonable story and maybe Argentina will get to write a new story about those islands someday (Something along the lines of: they’ve been theirs since the beginning of time, struggle against injustice, self defence, heroic reconquista etc. etc.).

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 02:23 | 1949989 ironsky
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If you can freely buy dollars in the Falklands, the Argies might all move there.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 02:33 | 1950001 Dugald
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Enter the Iron Butterfly......on second thoughts, nah!

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 22:22 | 1949368 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AUD spoke thusly:

The UK couldn't afford it in 1982 either, nor the Argentinians, nor can the Argentinians now. That won't stop them.

Nothing will stop them, because the banks see another opportunity to fan the flames of war and then lend to both sides. It's the same pattern every time.

 

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:59 | 1949056 trav7777
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hope they blow him up.

Argentina can't afford a war either...if it was Brazil, now that's a different story

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:59 | 1949061 Ahmeexnal
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Seems like the power elite are setting up William to be the archduke Franz Ferdinand of the 21st century.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 23:21 | 1949571 fadgadget
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like argentina can afford it?

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:22 | 1948539 redpill
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Silly socialists, don't make them come down and open another can of whoopass over those worthless islands, it's just not worth it.  The tattered remnants of the British Empire will still defend its few remaining token interests.

 

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:24 | 1948547 Ancona
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Those worthless islands just happen to bne surrounded by world class fisheries and......oil.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:31 | 1948576 Freddie
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Potentially 20 to 70 billion barrels of oil.  Englandistan sucks but that bitch Kirschner and the Peronist shit commies in Argentina grabbed all the pensions.  Kirschner reminds me of Pelosi.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:45 | 1948635 kito
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you would have the entire continent south america in a war with england. SA is done with centuries of european control over their region. SA has successfully rid themselves of the parasitic imf/world bank and now will challenge what little power europe has left. its a changing world for sure...................

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:46 | 1948642 fonzanoon
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That may be true, but QE3 is coming.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:55 | 1948680 kito
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i think i saw you in the subway the other day, looking disheveled and unkempt, with a crazed look in your eye, holding a bible and a sign, that read QE3 IS COMING!!!  keep waiting fonzanoon, keep waiting.............

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:36 | 1948818 topcallingtroll
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Havent the british held the island for a couple hundred years now? Even before argentina was a country? Why r u so sure that argentina has a valid claim?

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:43 | 1948834 fonzanoon
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thats not the point but yes that was me.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 22:09 | 1949327 Joaquin Juarez
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If you took away all the illegal money in the City of London, mostly blood money from the ME and Africa, the UK would have all the economic might of Paraguay.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 22:56 | 1949482 Jonathan E
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Bullshit, Argentina would find itself alone..again, fighting for something that was never theirs in the first place. As a culture they're not the most popular of people in South America (perceived as very arrogant) and most South American countries are busy fiercely protecting their own territories from their neighbours anyway, let alone worrying about Argentina's. 

Even Hugo wouldn't be daft enough to get involved and give the US an excuse to get their foot in the door.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 00:23 | 1949741 Dr. Kenneth Noi...
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How many nukes does South America have?

I would bet that England has more than them all combined.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 05:50 | 1950224 kaiten
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Not many, but I heard China got 3000.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 02:31 | 1949996 ironsky
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"SA is done with centuries of european control over their region."

South America; The worst qualities of Europeans merged with the best qualities of hunter/gatherers. What could go wrong?

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 10:28 | 1950670 kito
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hunting/gathering, at least its an honest days work, more than we can say for the way europe works............

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:10 | 1948742 Livingstrong
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I´m not defending Krischner (do not like her politically) BUT Pelosi will never look as handsome as Krischner (at least the Argentinian president is very pretty, Pelosi is ugly) AND will never be the president of any country...she doesn´t have the brains -Pelosi- and she doesn´t have the "right" contacts to put her in that position -presidency-; Krishner does.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:45 | 1948815 akak
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All true, but Kirschner, unlike Pelosi, never had the honor of playing a leading role in any of the "Star Trek" movies:

http://thepeoplescube.com/Future/images/Pelosi_BorgQueen_250.jpg

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:06 | 1948886 delacroix
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 isn't pelosi, an argentinian jew?

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 23:10 | 1949541 Green Leader
Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:53 | 1948858 Flakmeister
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Ancona....

   There are some decent prospects there with one commercially viable find to date.... Lord knows the Brits are desperate to replace the North Sea production.... imagine going from a significant exporter to net importer in 8 years...

Nothing will flow for at least 5-6 years....

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:25 | 1948548 john39
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must be something down there that the brits want or need.  (edit-post above answers my question)

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 21:49 | 1949255 The Axe
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Tyler is a genius...but the quality of posts on ZH is south of the islands...very far south...

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 09:40 | 1950494 Janestool
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and no one need look beyond your post to confirm this.....pay homage u sheeple.....

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 02:37 | 1950011 Dugald
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Rule Brit, er Rule Brit ummm how does it go?

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:24 | 1948546 I am Jobe
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Send the ships, send the troops now. Mission Accomplished. More wars Bitchezzz.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:36 | 1948820 Ethics Gradient
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I think there's a submarine resupply vessel somewhere. Oh, and there's that HMS Belfast thing from the 1930s in London. Are those the ships you're talking about?

There was an aircraft carrier, but that got decommissioned. The only planes they had that could use it were sold to the US Marines.

Frankly Argentina could take Malvinas with a deflatable boat filled with three small boys with rickets.

I suppose Cameron could ask Obama for help, but when there's trade with SA at stake, I suppose not asking would avoid the embarrassment of a negative response.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:02 | 1948867 akak
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I say let the Limeys send down some of those unarmed Bobbies and skirt-wearing Scottish queers and bearskin-hat-wearing unblinking Royal guards from Buckingham Palace, not to mention a certain dowdy parasite with pretentions of relevance and a cheesy 1960's wardrobe --- the Argentines will laugh themselves so silly they will crap their pants and have to run home in embarrassment.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 02:38 | 1950014 ironsky
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" the Argentines will laugh themselves so silly they will crap their pants and have to run home in embarrassment."

When they get home they'll be held hostage by thugs looking to rob them of 10 carat gold chains, the real currency of Bargentina.The printing press is cutting pliers.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 02:43 | 1950020 Dugald
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Think the Brits will send traditional Gunboat, the Argies who traditionaly, could not fight their way out of a wet paper bag will get fucked over again, and all for a bunch of rocks worth sweet fuck all...just saying.....

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:25 | 1948550 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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How is it belligerent?  Let's ask Britain how they ended up with islands down and across a major ocean? 

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:33 | 1948587 midgetrannyporn
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Stupid argument. They discovered all kinds of shit back in the day. Those islands were uninhabited. Argentina didn't even know they were there until they looked at a British made map.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:02 | 1948717 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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So then the Brits should have no problem fighting for it

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:05 | 1948883 Carlyle Groupie
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Exactly. Send in a few IRA special forces guys.

A few into the UK banking district and a few into the Fuckland Islands.

Now lets see you protect yourselves you Brit fuckers!

The UK has NO fucking domain in the Falklands.

I can't wait till these Brit fuckers get their paybacks for centuries of misdeeds!

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:19 | 1948932 midgetrannyporn
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Loose the Argentinian Armada! LMAO!

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 02:41 | 1950018 ironsky
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Lol. The Armada would have to sail on a day that sailors weren't trying to unload pesos. Manana. That's it.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:20 | 1948939 IQ 101
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And Hawaii is a state, why? 

I think the Brits need to invade Argentina this time, hell, the Argies ain't using it. the Brits could use the real estate and leave the old island for the Pakies. Nice cattle country I hear.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:41 | 1949002 Carlyle Groupie
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Can't a nigga test the Bot rumors that we hear about ZH?

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 02:49 | 1950031 Dugald
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What other wet dreams do you get by on...

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:47 | 1948646 Sabremesh
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How did any of the countries in the Americas become colonised, if it wasn't from "across a major ocean"? At least the Falkland Islands were uninhabited before they were discovered by Europeans, so no indigenous peoples were conquered and deprived of their birthright.

The same cannot be said for Argentina...or ahem, the USA. So let's quit the hypocritical posturing, shall we?

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:05 | 1948727 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I didn't write anything other than note how far away the islands are.  I say they fight for them.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 22:59 | 1949500 Jonathan E
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Then ask the VAST majority of Argentinians who their ancestors were and where they came from.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:25 | 1948554 Let them eat iPads
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Everybody wants a piece of the Sandwich Islands.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:05 | 1948878 akak
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I'll take mine with a slice of Turkey, thank you.

But please, not on a grilled bun --- too much Greece.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:28 | 1948559 hugovanderbubble
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Argentinian all big money has been transferred into SYRIA during decades....

now SYRIA in troubles.....Argentina troubles... = easy....

Peterssen : YPF -

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:29 | 1948565 PulauHantu29
Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:29 | 1948567 The Swedish Chef
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Is there a sinlge soul that speaks Spanish on those islands? Has there ever been? 

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:47 | 1948643 akak
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Nope.

 

And a note to the mining-related profits of foreign companies: Don't try to flee Argentina.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:30 | 1948569 Clayton Bigsby
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Uh, perhaps cristina k is not a student of history so much, but just in case, someone should remind her that the Argentines got their balls handed to them last time.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:33 | 1948583 Freddie
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Kirschner is a kleptocratic c*nt like our Muslim.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:39 | 1948617 tamboo
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make that irish jewgro muslim.

Obama's Jewish "Irish" Grandfather

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:32 | 1948803 Carlyle Groupie
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FU douche!

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:53 | 1948857 Grinder74
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I don't give too much credence to a PhD author who doesn't know the difference between a hyphen and an apostrophe.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:59 | 1949057 swmnguy
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If it weren't for Henry Makow, where would we get up-to-the-minute news about the Satanist Feminist Illuminati Jewish Masonic Conspiracy?  We'd get all bogged down bitching about economics and miss the bigger picture!  And that's how they'd get us.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 02:45 | 1950022 ironsky
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All professors know that an intact hyphen proves virginity. Tough to come by these days.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 23:52 | 1949668 Iwanttoknow
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Freddie's pastor insists that we call Oblama mooslim despite the fact he gave the most of our tax dollars to Israel,even more than GW.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 21:30 | 1949191 Andre
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"...someone should remind her that the Argentines got their balls handed to them last time."

Not really. Once the troops landed, it went somewhat smoothly for the British, but the only thing that saved them was the US refusal to sell bomb fuze improvements. A fair few British ships went to the bottom before the re entry into Port Stanley, courtesy of the Argentine Air Force and naval air forces.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 06:27 | 1950252 TheRagingTory
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"A fair few British ships went to the bottom before the re entry into Port Stanley, courtesy of the Argentine Air Force and naval air forces."

 

We have new Ships, Argentina doesnt have new aircraft....

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:32 | 1948578 William Wallace
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Should be 29 years.  It was 1982.  Time flies.  

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:40 | 1948622 akak
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What are you talking about?

It is 2001 ... and housing is ready to BOOM!

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:57 | 1948691 ebworthen
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I was going to say...29 years...went to the prom with a beautiful Brit girl whose Dad was stateside as a diplomat...they were quite piqued about the whole situation.

Her Mum made some really great tea, I must say.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:13 | 1948750 Grinder74
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A little mother-daughter action eh?  Was Herman there too?

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:33 | 1948584 fonzanoon
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I think Goldman owns those fishing boats.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:35 | 1948592 shutdown
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The UK is tangled up wasting scarce military resources serving as First Water Boy in American wars all over the place. If it comes to a land and sea battle, the UK will lose this next Falklands Freedom War Maldives Liberation War. 

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:47 | 1949018 False Capital
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Ok, I'll chime in here. Battle hardened veterans of multiple wars versus underfunded Argentinian conscripts. Remind me what happened last time?

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 21:00 | 1949064 DoChenRollingBearing
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Correct.

We won´t cry for you, Argentina.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:36 | 1948598 dwdollar
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I do know one thing. If I was a young Argentinian or young Englishman, I'd be giving the middle finger to whoever wanted me to die for those fucking islands.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:37 | 1948608 Poule Mouillee
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This could be a serious Black Penguin event!

 

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:44 | 1948634 Dr. Engali
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I'm watching Penguins of Madagascar Christmas with the kids right now. Lotsa black penguins here. :)

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:40 | 1948621 Wheatman
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Try 29 years ago you morons. But what's a decade between friends.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:42 | 1948627 slewie the pi-rat
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an internationally-sanctioned no-fishing zone? 

forget britain!  hell hath no fury like a pissed-off spanish fisherman!

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:43 | 1948628 Mister Minsk
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Déjà vu my friends...

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:43 | 1948629 Dr. Engali
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Good Lord I'm going through a friggen time warp. I'll have to see if I can find my old bell bottoms.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:44 | 1948632 english serf
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We kicked their arse then, and we will do it again.Every British serviceman will want to be part of it. Believe it. Not some fly blown arab muslim shit hole either, but british territory. Strange thing is, we quite like the argies

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:06 | 1948732 11b40
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Good luck taking on South America, dude.  Methinks SA just gave you the collective royal finger.  It's not just Argentina this time.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 21:04 | 1949083 DoChenRollingBearing
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Brazil may TALK, they will DO nothing.  It is just Argentina.  And maybe Venezuela, LOL...

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:44 | 1948633 Scalaris
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When should I start shorting every single Falklands oil & gas E&P's 

Answer: 5 months ago.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:45 | 1948637 Piranhanoia
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To the people of Argentina;  Don't get in a tussle with them. Their nation is not going to spend the money to protect the islands that much longer. They will go away and not pay to come back.  Just give it time.  Heck, sell it to them for a huge amount of gold.  You can get the gold and the island.  

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 21:09 | 1949099 DoChenRollingBearing
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Unless all that oil I read about above is true...

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:48 | 1948651 TheLooza
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OH FALK!

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:05 | 1948725 sabra1
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Columbo! that peter falk dude?

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:50 | 1948660 vote_libertaria...
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Argentine?...Falklands???  Is this some hype created by Hollywood to promote the new Margaret Thatcher movie?

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:51 | 1948664 Sutton
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We're all Falklanders now.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:52 | 1948669 ZeroPoint
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Iran was taken, so England has to revive an old corpse.

 

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:54 | 1948677 Schmuck Raker
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Uh-oh. This could lead to the US having to give Cancun back to Mexico.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 02:50 | 1950032 ironsky
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"This could lead to the US having to give Cancun back to Mexico."

Many careless Americans have spilled their guts to hold Cancun.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:54 | 1948679 willien1derland
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Wait a minute - this is REAL? Holy SHIT! Wait a minute...Did something happen today? Mercury in Retrograde...some other astrological event? Argentina...England, the Falkland Islands?! No Really? No wait, I can't stand....it is getting very fuzzy - wait this is a flashback scene - OMG is Fonzie REALLY going to jump the shark?

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 22:32 | 1949391 TheFourthStooge-ing
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It's morning in America.

 

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 22:36 | 1949407 akak
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It's spelled "mourning".

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:55 | 1948688 Curtis LeMay
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I bet Sarko and EADS are already sending their top salesmen to Buenos Aires bearing suitcases full of cash and Exocet contracts :(

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:57 | 1948695 Mr.Kowalski
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It'd take just one Brit submarine to sink most of Christina's fleet. Lets keep this in context. 

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:31 | 1948977 IQ 101
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without leaving port, if they so chose,

They really should make history mandatory in schools, but what do ya get? Social studies.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 21:12 | 1949115 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 2011

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 21:55 | 1949278 Savyindallas
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Says who? TThe Argentines can and should take back the falklands. The Brits were the bad guys in 1776 and they remain the bad guys now. Screw the F*cking Royal family and their Rothschild bankster allies.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 18:57 | 1948696 Coldfire
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Two bald men fighting over a comb. Redux.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:03 | 1948700 bank guy in Brussels
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Britain should give the Malvinas - Falklands back to Argentina.

Britain should give back Gibraltar to Spain.

Britain should give northern Ireland back to the Irish, as one of the Beatles sang about, Paul McCartney, technically 'supporting terrorism' under current British laws: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaO4XeHhwo8

Spain should give its little North African enclaves back to the Moroccans.

The US should give up all its overseas military bases, and stop torturing and invading other peoples.

Canada and the US and Australia need to make due amends to all their aboriginal peoples ... in North America they need to let the buffalo roam free again.

Israel should give back the land they stole from the Palestinians, and the land they occupied later in wars that arose because of that earlier theft.

Vatican City should give its territory back to Italy and become a spiritual, not national, institution.

The museums need to restore stolen ancient treasures back to home countries that are able to protect them.

The banksters should return the money they stole.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:05 | 1948724 Coldfire
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Amen and amen. Plus, we should give Krugman back to the aliens. It's only right.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:17 | 1948765 Grinder74
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"Israel should give back the land they stole from the Palestinians"???  And where, pray tell, did the Palestinians get their land from?  The Ottomans? The Romans? The Greeks?  The Persians?  The Babylonians? The Assyrians? The Israelites?  Oh wait...

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:15 | 1948912 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Even David Ben-Gurion acknowledged that the Palestinians are the descendents of the Biblical Jews. So the God of Israel gave the land to the Palestinians. At least that's what the Bible says.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 21:36 | 1949211 FeralSerf
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Ben Gurion: "Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been antisemitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations' time, but for the moment there is no chance. So, it's simple: we have to stay strong and maintain a powerful army. Our whole policy is there. Otherwise the Arabs will wipe us out." -- Nahum Goldmann, The Jewish Paradox, p. 99

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:30 | 1948801 granolageek
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I'm with you except for Northern Ireland and the Vatican.

In Northern Ireland, many of the Orangemen are descendants of bandits (they'd tell it otherwise) sent there at gunpoint as an alternative to the gallows. The king of Scotland and England (pre-UK) made the problem, pulling out the Royal Army won't solve it. Nope, I have no answer to this one.

 

As for the Vatican, it's one flippin' square mile of museums. I'll argue that the world would be better with a few more tiny enclaves run by old men in funny clothes and a billlion people (with many divisions between them) saying "Don't touch." Jerusalem, Mecca, Lhasa and Medina come immediately to mind.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 21:38 | 1949222 FeralSerf
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Detroit too.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 19:40 | 1948827 hardcleareye
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"..in North America they need to let the buffalo roam free again."

 

WTF?  Having had friends that have raised these wonderful animals you have NO Idea what you are saying....  they are good eating!!!!

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:18 | 1948927 CrockettAlmanac.com
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I don't buy beef. Only buffalo. Good stuff.

Mon, 12/05/2011 - 20:12 | 1948904 LFMayor
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and you should give back your country to the Germans.  I mean, after all, they took it over what, 3 times in Franco-Prussian, WWI and WWII?  Hell, they were in charge of it more than your ilk ever were.   Keep fucking with their money and you'll hear those tall boots headed west again, and soon.

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 09:05 | 1950406 TheRagingTory
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"Britain should give the Malvinas - Falklands back to Argentina."

But it isnt ours to give, only the Falklanders themselves can choose to leave the UK and join Argentina, they do not wish to.

"Britain should give back Gibraltar to Spain."

Again, not ours to give, the Gibraltans have no wish to become a spanish colony.

"Britain should give northern Ireland back to the Irish"

Again, not ours to give, the Northern Irish have no more wish to join the Republic of Ireland than Estonia has to merge with Russia.

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