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Hi kids, the word of the day is CAPITULATION
On his BAC alone he would have taken a bath of at least a couple bucks a share (if he timed it perfectly and dumped them on August 30), potentially much more. Multiply by ten million shares...
I don't think it is "capitulation" but a recgonition that the Fed is about to drop one in the punch bowl. Twist won't save Europe and Europe won't save Europe so the last thing you would want to own is any corporation involved heavily in the Eurozone or any part of the U.S. financial sector. The crash will be inspired by the Euros this time, and their ability to postpone this appointment appears to be failing again. Tepper smells it coming.
He's the first one out of the pool. Good for him, means he's not going to be holding the bag. Now to try to make sense of what he bought.
BP - OilDana - Axel and power distribution, engineering core...builders.Holly - lubricants and refinery type of workCalumet - lubes and refinery type of work
BP - Strong distribution channels and retail infrastructureDana - New drive/power train...new catalytic converter?Holly/Calumet - have a merger coming up?
Something new is coming out to supply light truck engines to use less oil?
Holly/Calumet...no clue other than two seperate technologies being used with what Dana is building. BP packages it and sells it.
CPL, look at your list...they have another purpose:
Fueling a war.
a carburetor to convert from diesel fuel to natural [lpg] gas, or vise versa - flex fuel switch for long haul transport fleets -
next stage will be all state/municipality vehicles, police,... etc., etc.
Your right, they know that the EU won't or can't fix this problem (to much debt like everywhere else). And that the US and it's banks have massive insurance on alot of that debt, and they can be drawn into it. So these funds are trying to get out before the hammer starts coming down in a few weeks.
I was in the pool!
Don't call Buffett that, it's offensive towards Octopuses.
So where did they place all that cash? Or are they sitting on the sidelines?
It's essentially an admission they are totally clueless, don't actually know what is going on in the market, and are scared shitless so they are content to make absolutely nothing and yet continue charging their clients fees for sitting on their cash.
There's a much more affordable vehicle for such a fund strategy, it's called a MATTRESS.
Perhaps he went with Doug Casey and is short bonds:
"One of the best one-way speculations right now - you can make a fortune being short bonds at this point."
That's no way to get on CNBC again soon!
CNBC Twit asks " So David? where are you investing today?"
David.. "Oil, becuase the $600 Billion Dollars Arms Credit we (America) have with Saudi Arabia is about to expire and the price of Oil is going up, Up! and AWAY! as well in BP.. becuase the Russian's let them charge what the fuck ever they want too!"
CNBC Twit asks "What about Gold?"
David.. "We have been secretly buying Gold Like! China, Iran and every other Person, Corporation or Country in the World.. becuase we are a U.S. Company and subject to siezures.. we have it ALL OFF SHORE! so that we do NOT! have to pony up when Queen Obama and the flying Monkeys come a knockin!"
or something like that!
Doesn't own any gold/silver bullion etfs and doesn't own any gold stocks.
We have been treated to three solid weeks of the BlowHorn [CNBC] sending out the message that the "chase for performance" was on, and the market is certain to rally into year end.
And what does D. Tepper do? Massively sells into the message.
great observation and funny after seeing how the dude cleaned out the closet
I guess it's true that some will believe whatever they CNBC
so tepper happy owning treasuries at 0% ?!??
i think he's buying real estate in canada, it only goes up, defying all logic!
Odd coincidence. My Father sold some of his bank stock paper and bought some of those Beautiful Dragon coins. I told him what Buffet says, "you can't eat gold" ...but he shook his head, showed me the shiny proof coins and went to the bank to lock those up.
You can't teach old folks, can you? Maybe I'll get him Buffet's book for XMas.
all sounds well, except the part where he's locking up the gold!
"went to the bank to lock those up"
If they are locked up at a bank they are not free.
Shit meets fan, bank goes bye bye.
That's like a married man divorcing his wife because she was cheating and then he goes and marries a prostitute. He was half way there........sooooooooooooooooooooo close, yet so far.
The federal agent that gets to raid his safe depo box during the next executive ordered U.S. bank holiday is going to love those pretty proof gold dragons. His gold would probably be safer laying around like loose change on his kitchen table since safe deposit boxes WILL BE one of the first things pilfered during the inevitable bank holiday. It's already written in the Patriot Act that you are not supposed to store gold in safe deposite boxes so they could legaly take if from him now if they wanted to. Not trying to panic you just trying to help a fellow zerohedger's dad out.
I tired to source that and could not.
There are only two keys to a SDB, both of which you get when you lease it. They can drill it without you being present (they would have to drill the whole vault all across the US at the same time) or they could be present when you access it. That would require a change in law regarding gold/silver ownereship. If this happened, what do you think the price of gold/silver would be on the market (which no longer exists). This law would effectively shut down US based bullion dealers.
I would be interesteed in constructive debate on how that plays out, because if they outlaw gold, you won't be able to sell it legally in the US, so your pawn value is suddenly questionable (who would buy it - except a neighbor who then assumes the liquidation problem). SDB or not doesn't make much difference.
A safe deposit box is the best place to keep it. The confiscate gold non-sense is just like they are going to take the guns non-sense. The only people who are likely to take your gold are burglers at your house.
Thanks, I'll tell him that. Honestly, he has so much junk laying around I don't think anyone could find anything in his house. So your suggestion may be a good one. He could just lay it under one of the pieces of bread on the table that is moldy. Better yet, bury them in the bottom of that can of half-eaten beans that has been sitting out at room temp on the shelf for over three weeks now.
Sad how old people deteriorate. But he is smart enough to dump his bank stocks the last uptick...I'll give him that!
sorry, this guy's not a real trader. where are his AMZN, PCLN, CRM, CMG, NFLX, LNKD, GRPN, MCP, GMCR, BIDU, LULU, OPEN, SINA, SOHU holdings? He's missing out on epic potential returns.
totally? dude...no way
here it comes, the deflationary storm. catagory 6. deleveraging earthquake, 9.2 in the richter scale.
GET OUT OF EVERYTHING NOW!!!!!!! lock the doors, board up the windows, stand under doorways only!!!!! make sure you have scuba gear!!! be prepared for the mother of all catastrophes!!!!
I'll put the kettle on...this requires a hot beverage.
How smart can a guy be who owned Bank of America, Wells, and DR Horton ?
2 and 20. sheesh. Sells everything on the down Q3 and gets jacked by an october rally. Clown convention
Not smart at all, none of these guys should be touching any of these large financial institutions. BP was a decent buy when it was down at 35 and change recently, I picked some up there.
Someone was dumping RWT redwood trust today, under the berkshite a and b funds. Their actual diluted earnings were 1 cent verses est 23 cent. I thought their jumbo primeX exposure would make the stock tumble, only today is it reflecting the mortgage shitbag it is.
IS there no more ponxi strength of the financials?
It may be a very cold winter, bitchezzz....
They all looked good when the market was Ponziing. They all will lose everything when it crashes for good.
"A record-setting year of disasters took its toll on the nation’s roads and bridges, and the federal fund to help states rebuild them has been tapped out."
Instinct, Inception, & Key Distillation
The old man tells me that the cop he provided beachfront property to has 900 officers to investigate my background. Crack me up.
So, we left off at balancing the system by replacing redundant delay mechanisms with more effective/diverse adaptations to extend the relativity circuit, adjusting, adding, subtracting and moving gaps in the multiplexer(s). Intelligence is thereby distilled from the replicative control of memory/knowledge in the parade line. 7 billion people do not emerge from or return to vacuum. The relativity circuit looks quite different from the perspective of the rock (Enjoying the sun activity?).
The subconscious builds a decision tree of future probabilities based upon the social programs/authorities accepted over time. For example, 2x + 3y will appear in one branch, and 4x + 6y will appear in another. For the knowledge-based participants, the frames will appear as distinct perceptions, but for the learning-based the algebraic reduction to constants is automatic.
Time decelerates with knowledge and accelerates with intelligence, due to process delay. Due to historical gaming, the learner appears slower, until algebraic reduction is complete, when quantum acceleration occurs. Choose authorities carefully and diversify to distill intelligence. Swim with the outliers; the point of God the Unknown as the final authority is to avoid the black hole of the groupthink replicating virus.
Logic and emotion may compliment or destroy one another, in a feedback loop. Employ emotional intelligence to uncover and remove false assumptions to the end of resolution. Focus on the process and the symptoms will take care of themselves. The problem is the solution, turned on its head.
Don’t fuss too much over the cattle number assigned for public consumption. Allow others to underestimate. Spend private time exploring self and the economy will kick over automatically, when the difference threshold exceeds system measurement. It’s never too late to start.
Social programs are like worms or denial of service attacks. Employ your subconscious or others will do it for you. Bringing the system into equilibrium is not going to be about handing children over to false authorities so they may be trained to compete for scarce resources, produced by the resulting voices/ groupthink in their heads.
The parade leaders, world’s economic thinkers, simply participate in a reverse tree of multiple club/ponzi circles. When they are allowed to control the money supply (interest rates) and the price (employment), to define value, all other participants may only compete on the cost of replication.
The Euro was a civil marriage between France and Germany, a contract designed to be broken, financed by the US and implemented by Japan, through China. Once the ponzi demand faltered in Europe, China replaced it by increasing ponzi local government demand. Now, the entire system is collapsing and they cannot exit their contracts because there is no potential slave population to keep the ponzi growing. The internet was a double-edged sword, and the global population is awaking to a system that pays people to comply with cognitive dissonance. Evolution is quantum.
Like the conscious/subconscious, the elements are derivatives/integrals in the fusion/fission reactor, which assembles order from chaos with algebraic reduction and expansion, resulting in an ever more diverse buffer of ionic and covalent bonds. Whether a string is a proton, neutron, or electron depends upon how the multiplexer is perceived to be wired.
Self-absorption shorts into itself, in bipolar layers, building the protein, and ejects the new but complimentary element, which acts as the catalyst in the next cycle. As the fulcrum agent becomes indistinguishable from gravity, orbit/order results, in a historical equilibrium with new event horizon development. Perpetual motion/ energy transformation is the perception.
The car replaced the horse and the computer replaced the car. Apple is a cash cow as GM was before. What’s next?
Depending upon your location on the timeline, we are already done with Soros, which brings us back to ThyssenKrupp. Typical, TK sends some kids out to install cheap electronic elevators, installed like paint-by-numbers, so no thinking is involved. Outwardly, the elevators appear the same, but they are arbitrarily wired differently with different voltages and the CPU mixer allows the maintenance mechanic to use one laptop to alter the run bit of all. Low buy-in, very high maintenance fees, very profitable for TK.
The best solution is to fire the decision-maker that bought the elevator and make the elevator shaft a continuous research project. The next best solution is to rip it out and install quality, max NPV given future opportunity cost. The next best solution is to rip out the computer and wire it AC with as much of the old wiring as possible. The next best solution is to wire loops to make the CPU “think” it remains in control, but otherwise bypass it.
So, I walk into the decision-makers office…who is a mason…accustomed to a kickback from the elevator company…nasty little breed, which installs and operates the global IC chip. Microsoft is what they call nouveau riche.
Stupid always attempts to herd intelligent into the anxiety box, trapping itself every time. That’s the nature of the universe. God does not have a plan for you that you must copy from some authority. Life is an adventure. Seek and you shall find.
Civil marriage (Jewish bankers and German industrialists) always results in war, with children as the collateral damage. Get out while the getting is good, to drop the floor, and allow the little monsters to chew on each other for all eternity.
Keep working on it. I like your insight, but the style sometimes gets in the way.
6/10, keep working on it. Otherwise why don't you just submit an article or blog it and submit the blog to the tylers?
"Merkel’s message is “a warm-up for the big quantum leap” toward a two-track Europe, Carsten Brzeski, an economist at ING Group in Brussels, said by phone. “If you wait for the Brits, you’re going to spend a lot of time at the station and the train will never come. If you want to do the quantum leap, you can only do it with the euro zone.”
First you get a Recession and they twiddle some dials, then you get a Depression and they "seasonally adjust" then you get old mans bathtime stories........What is the word for what comes after that???
Dana? Is he kidding?
"crony old Octogenarian Octopus of Omaha" hahahahahahaah
that is a gold comment.
He likes to get his tentacles into everything. I wonder if he thinks that 6% annual dividend on his $5 Billion of BofA stock is still worth it now that it's lost 14% of its value.
He bought preferred. If they go tits up he is near the front of the line. It is just another TBTF screw job bet against the taxpayers. Buffett is the biggest fascist on the planet.
Then: If the economy gets better, I will do OK. If the economy gets worse, QE2 will goose stocks and I will do OK. Better to buy.
Now: If Italy et al gets worse and the ECB doesn't print, I am screwed. If Italy et al gets worse and the ECB prints, I am still screwed. Better to sell.
but but but who animal spirits??????
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