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Thanksgiving Day Open Thread

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With Europe set to close shortly, it just may be the case that the relentless headline barrage of rumors, lies and other European sourced imports will cease at least for a few hours. So while we are awaiting to see what Syria and Iran's (not to mention Russia and China's) response will be to the latest Arab League 24 hour ultimatum, here is today's open thread to kill the boredom until we get a chance to express our thanks for all the selling opportunities about to unfold, and until we get to find out if one can buy that completely unnecessary 9th plasma (for 50% off because in America spending money is saving) while dumping BTPs from a WalMart store at 3am in the morning.

Below: black swan before brining and deep fat frying:

 


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Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:13 | Link to Comment CPL
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Probably not First!!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:15 | Link to Comment CPL
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Look at that...

 

Happy thanksgiving to all my friends and family south of the border.  May the turkey be delicious and the beer cold.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:18 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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A good day to re-member Native americans,on whose generosity this day  is based. Not on the senseless slaughter of Turkeys.

Generosity, something we could all do with a little more of.

Thank you so much ZH.

ORI

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Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:27 | Link to Comment redpill
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There once was a site called Zero Hedge
Chronicling a financial world teetering on the edge
But come Thanksgiving Day
We all stop to say
Have turkey and wine and step back from the ledge!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:43 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Thanksgiving. That's when Americans celebrate their alliance with the native Indian tribes against the British isn't it, just before Lincoln turned round and slaughtered them, stole their land and basically shot their buffalo...

or is it just another excuse for a piss up?

 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:58 | Link to Comment Kayman
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"when Americans celebrate their alliance with the native Indian tribes against the British " ?

Air brushing history my friend.  Happy Thanksgiving, Tyler(s) and all of Fight Club.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:03 | Link to Comment fuu
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Have a safe day everyone.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:52 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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THANK YOU ZEROHEDGE AND FRIENDS for all the insights and entertainment

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:03 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Yes, and let's all join together to wish all those Americans currently struggling to get back to Tel Aviv on time a safe journey and lots of good booze and turkey , eh...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:20 | Link to Comment CH1
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Even on holidays, they troll.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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No, they don't...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 15:28 | Link to Comment LeBalance
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this isn't an argument, its merely contradiction...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 16:04 | Link to Comment Atreyu
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No it isn't!!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 19:28 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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I want to wish a Happy Thanksgiving to all of my Zero Hedge brothers, sisters and compatriots, of whatever race, religion, ethnicity or creed, who have pure hearts and honest intentions, and have grown weary of the economic, political and social injustice and inequity that has resulted NOT FROM FREE & FAIR MARKET CAPITALISM, but that which HAS RESULTED FROM STATIST SUBSIDIZED RAPING & PILLAGING OF TRUE FREE & FAIR MARKET CAPITALISM BORN OF FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING PONZINOMICS & CRONY CAPITALISM (#DeepCaptureOfRegulators&Politicians).

RESTORE FREE MARKET CAPITALISM. End Statist Crony Capitalism. Let investors, whether bond holders or equity holders, deal with the risks that normal, free, non-broken, non-Bernank'd markets bring. Let the alleged Too-Big-To-Fails drown in their own toxic effluent. Let interest rates rise or fall based on true, free market forces, and not be so heavily manipulated by the broken markets Bernanke has created (putting taxpayer money at risk, and creating ripe conditions for a systemic global unwinding of credit markets).

Sorry for the shouting, but I needed to ensure those of you about to doze off in a l-tryptophan induced haze heard me.

Oh, and I give special thanks to Zero Hedge, which is an unstoppable force whose influence is growing at astounding velocity, all due to the fact that it is a shining example of the new proven model of BOTH OBJECTIVE REPORTING (based on the facts, and on a wide array of economic, financial, political and social matters) and DISCLOSED BIASED OP/EDs (on subject ranging from precious metals to regulatory, legislative and policy failure) has supplanted the Lame Ass Stream Media (with all such outlets owned by a handful of highly self-interested corporations), which has devolved into nothing more than a collective Proxy Mouthpiece of The Government Propaganda Machine & Crony Capitalistic Kleptocracy (with such forces working hand-in-hand; think of The Wall Street Journal and Jon Hilsenbrand and its and his relationship with Goldman Sachs & Brian Sack and Ben Bernanke of the Federal Reserve, or that of The New York Times & Andrew Ross-Sorkin and his close affiliation with all of Manhattan's Too-Big-To-Fail Financial Welfare Kings), and which has completely destroyed any notion of journalism as a profession and institution reporting facts as a critical component of helping to ensure a robust dialogue and public debate on all matters affecting/impacting our lives as alleged members of a sovereign citizenry.

Long Live Zero Hedge. Keep doing what you've done so far, as you're filling a critical void that the Main & Lame Stream Media has not only abandoned, but has abandoned intentionally, after selling its collective soul to the Kleptocracy & Money Master Parasites, hand-in-hand with the Statist Money Master Crony Capitalist Destroyers of Free Markets. Zero Hedge's growth is only going to accelerate (it's not merely another blogosphericic entity with heavy traffic but a streaming consciousness).

It's going to be an extremely harsh winter of discontent. Hedge accordingly, and hold tight the value and things that truly matter in life to help bring you through what we're now facing and is inevitably going to intensify.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 21:30 | Link to Comment Chris Jusset
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"RESTORE FREE MARKET CAPITALISM."

 

But first we need a complete "reset," with a nw constitution and a new government ... oh, and we also need thousands of sharp guillotines ....

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 21:41 | Link to Comment New_Meat
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"with a nw constitution" [sic]

Au contraire, Chris Jusset.  We need to actually just do the plain acts that the plain words of the ratified Constitution say.  Many start out with: "Congress shall not ... "

You PROPOSE the TERROR?

but of course, you know not of which you speak.  But you have been around these here parts so you have an obligation to 'splain yourself.

or nay.

- Ned

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 23:08 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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With respect, I agree that we DO NOT need a "new" Constitution.

That is a dangerous proposition.

What we need is to reassert the role of our Constitution, which at its very core mandates a system of laws over the preferences of man, as the restraint upon the (now massively bloated & supra-constitutional) government we find lording over us and peeling away or infringing upon Constitutional Right after Consitutional Right, year after year.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 23:15 | Link to Comment Crisismode
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How

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Thu, 11/24/2011 - 23:16 | Link to Comment Crisismode
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How

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Thin,

No?

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 00:02 | Link to Comment HardwoodAg
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yes

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 03:18 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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It's ok, I have a wiiiiiiiiiiiiidescreeeeeeeeeeeen...

Just sayin'

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 02:50 | Link to Comment forexskin
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Thu, 11/24/2011 - 23:22 | Link to Comment undercover brother
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right on point.  Bravo!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 16:14 | Link to Comment Manthong
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Happy Thanksgiving to all of you old farts out there and to you young farts, too.

Something to contemplate as you count your blessings and think about your challenges:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBdeCxJmcAo

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Abitdodgie
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We should start to bomb another country , just to show our appreciation for thanksgiving and the genocide of the native Americans , as you can see the human race has really corrected its mitakes of the past , because now we live in a better world where never before in human history has so much time, knowledge, and raw materials been put into killing other humans, congrats America you are the most aggresive nation to be ever on the face of this planet . If you are still paying taxes then have an extra slice of turkey as that 12 year old girl just got her brains spread all over the sidewalk by a CIA sniper which you just paid for 

  Why not stop the killing and STOP PAYING TAXES.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:54 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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My, aren't we cheery this Thanksgiving Day.  

I, for one, would like to say thanks to the ZH community.   It's been a real pleasure to be a part of it.

Best to all of you, including the suffocating trolls, and I hope you've all been stacking the metal, storing the food, and honing the senses for what is to come.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 16:53 | Link to Comment Howard_Beale
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Happy Turkey day RR and to all of ZH as well. But more for RR...  :)

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 17:58 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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Beale you crazy MF'er... Happy Thanksgiving! How have you been?

I got off my ass and am closing a deal on a 200 acre wilderness retreat next week. Its got just enough water for my float plane if I carefully remove some partially submerged stumps. I may be a complete nutter but I have NEVER felt better! Some wild turkeys... but tons of chipmunks and bears if you and Rocky or MinnesotaN ever get hungry!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 19:15 | Link to Comment Hulk
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Here ya go ZO, underwater chainsaw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMFm3te4XQU

Congrats on the wilderness deal, put up a TiPi

http://www.tipi.com/

and eat wild!

http://www.eatwild.com/

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 16:12 | Link to Comment Kitler
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Sorry to hear about your 70/30 divorce settlement Hulk.

You've been through diamonds, you've been through minks. You've been through it all.

Love stinks.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:42 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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Underwater chainsaw... sounds like something I might have dreamed up. :)

Thanks Hulkster!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 16:54 | Link to Comment Howard_Beale
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...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 15:09 | Link to Comment merchantratereview
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No one in the US really pays their taxes. Bernanke just prints in the basement and SAYS everyone is paying!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 21:21 | Link to Comment I did it by Occident
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"because now we live in a better world where never before in human history has so much time, knowledge, and raw materials been put into killing other humans, congrats America you are the most aggresive nation to be ever on the face of this planet."

Don't be jealous!  USA!  Yeah! #1, #1, #1 !!!

War is business, and US is all about business.

 

 

 

 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 22:28 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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until the guns point inward...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 22:06 | Link to Comment Michael
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Are we taking bets on how many people will be trampled to death in tonights kickoff to the holiday shopping season? I guess at least 3 shoppers will be dead by morning. Is there an intrade trade on the body count this year? Last year we had a few deaths and it seems every year big box stores kill more and more of their customers with their loss leader policies and such.

"Three violent deaths in two stores marred the opening of the Christmas shopping season Friday.

In the first, a temporary Wal-Mart employee was trampled to death in a rush of thousands of early morning shoppers as he and other employees attempted to unlock the doors of a Long Island, New York, store at 5 a.m., police said.

In the second, unrelated incident, two men were shot dead in a Toys "R" Us in Palm Desert, California, after they argued in the store, police said."

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-11-28/us/black.friday.violence_1_wal-mart-worker-fleming-busiest-shopping-days?_s=PM:US

This is just one death story but I do enjoy the stories of customers being trampled to death most. Perhaps the big box stores should offer their customers Sumo outfits for protection from the onslaught.

Sumo Suit Showdown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1FDSXSlpmg

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:03 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Oh do explain then, please...

My understanding is that there are rather a lot of Indians sitting on Reservations at the moment thinking 'Boy did we screw up".

But for now I'm all ears...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:18 | Link to Comment Doomsday Profit
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Personally I blame everything on the Vikings....they started the whole rape and pillage thing....although the Mayans weren't very nice either....and now that I think about it, the Mongols were rather nasty as well......hell Man - we're all the freakin' same!!!!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:25 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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'What's this 'we' pale face',

As Tonto said to the Lone Ranger...

 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 18:23 | Link to Comment InvalidID
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 The natives fought wars over land food and resources long before the pale faces came over. Don't be made because they were better at it.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 22:39 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Yes but they were only slaughtered by their former 'allies' after you formed your own government, the same one composed of those super valiant politicians that espoused freedom as a right for all whilst perpetuating slavery for another 90 years...

FREEDOM!!!

Let's face it, had you remained under British rule you would probably be in the same position as Singapore, Australia, Hong Kong and many other places that enjoy more rights (admittedly less fondling at airports), thriving economies and fewer guns...

Perhaps not thriving economies then, but then the one you've got now isn't exactly doing too well either is it?

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 23:21 | Link to Comment UP Forester
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Yep.  Since the dipshits in charge a hundred years ago adopted the British banking system and Opium War redux, we're just doing dandy.  Say "Hi!" to the queen for me....

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 23:51 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Will do, when I next see her...

Do you have any personal gifts you'd like me to drop off?

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 05:49 | Link to Comment UP Forester
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Give her a pearl necklace for me....

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:25 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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Thanksgiving long predated the indian wars.

Google george washingtons thanksgiving day proclamation to understand what it was all about. He made it an official holiday, but it had already been celebrated nationally for over 100 years in all the colinies.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 23:07 | Link to Comment Sedaeng
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I think you mean Lincoln.  From what I read up on thanksgiving the continental congress as well as several presidents gave 'thanksgiving' of their [victories in battle], not of pilgrims and native americans...

It has officially been an annual tradition since 1863, when during the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln proclaimed a national day of thanksgiving to be celebrated on Thursday, November 26.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_%28United_States%29

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 18:36 | Link to Comment saiybat
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Rape and pillage is a whole lot older than the vikings. We haven't changed a bit since the late upper paleolithic era except now they give us better shit to kill eachother with. None of the great civilizations were nice even the ancient Greeks that are held in such high esteem; conquering the known world isn't done with good feelings and gift baskets. All the ancient civilizations Mesopotanians (Sumer, Uruk, Babylon), Egypt, and Greece gained their power and satus by enslaving primitive peoples.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 03:55 | Link to Comment kkam
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'...None of the great civilizations were nice ...' Probably the only ancient (and current) civilisation that does not fit this mould is India. India has never been an aggressor in its entire history, although it has been a victim of aggression countless times. Not that India is only full of saintly figures, the old kings fought each other often enough that there has been cruelty here too. And the current state of the country leads one to despair. But compared to any other civilisation, the atrocities in India are mere child's play. The only values India has actively exported are spirituality and non-violence. Buddha and Gandhi. 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:26 | Link to Comment Kickaha
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You are a little behind the times.  Those reservations now have ginormous casino hotels on them, and each member of the tribe is more than a little rich.

Every day, thousands of white settlors are still being scalped.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:35 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Is it true that they pay no taxes?

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:36 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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Go visit a Hopi reservation and tell me that.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 15:31 | Link to Comment LeBalance
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specialists in Hopi(um)?

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 16:59 | Link to Comment Howard_Beale
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The Hopis have chosen tribe/culture over casinos. Their jewelry isn't sold on road side pullouts, its on the First Mesa and all stores sell the designs at fixed prices. They have managed to save their culture as opposed to the Navajos and others that are decimated with alcoholism, the American diet, and TV.

The Hopis are a tribal wonder and deserve our deepest respect. 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 22:21 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Absolutely, it's just a pity they can no longer wonder up and down the continent like they used to.

Just another glaring example of how life was so much better for all under British rule...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:45 | Link to Comment Mark Wilson
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Lol! :D

 

The Indians (from India) who own the convenience store where I trade are going to the Hard Rock casino down in Tampa to do some gambling tonight.  

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:47 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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That's good Mark, it almost has something to do with the conversation...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:54 | Link to Comment Mark Wilson
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Sorry. The comment about the casinos just made me think of the conversation I had with my friend from the store last night. 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:00 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Actually, despite my sarcasm I thought it was quite funny...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 15:23 | Link to Comment Joe Sixpack
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Hey it does. That evil Columbus guy thought he was in India, so he called the natives Induans. Comes full circle.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:48 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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yeah, been there. Quite the life eh? From peopel of the earth to Naked Drink sellers and card sharps?

Please. The Native American has been effectively destroyed as a physical opposition. Drive through New Mexico... stop at those roadside tent casinos.

Nope, nothing rich. Plus the Atlantic city/Vegas crowd control them anyways. The NA are just the silent partners.

ORI

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:49 | Link to Comment lotsoffun
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@oh regional.  yup.  and the 99% of the people of your country that are alive, yet totally f.ed - and we need you here?

 

 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:56 | Link to Comment IQ 101
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Theirs a lot of indians sitting on reservations now thinking , "yeah, it's good to own a casino".

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 15:15 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Most of them are alcoholics and/or diabetics.

Far cry from the Brave days.

Wounded them right in the knee. Look up the Bureau of Indian Affairs for one sick bunch of contract breakers.

no feel good factors abotu casinos. None. Not a one. Shitty life. Proud people reduced to servitude.

ORI

PS: yup, much like the brits did to all their colonies. 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 16:17 | Link to Comment Kayman
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ORI

The Indian Caste System is no better, so don't pontificate before you pull the log out of your own eye.

No, the Untouchables aren't Elliot Ness...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 19:28 | Link to Comment saiybat
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These are people that lived free for millennia of their entire ancestry; freedom we aren't capable of even fathoming and they haven't been subjugated until only a couple of centuries ago. Give them time and they'll adapt to being good slaves like us civilized folks. Indigenous people went from being fiercely independent to herded like cattle and thrown on deserts where it is impossible for a nomadic people to live indigenously on such small plots of land much less arid land. This has made them wholly dependent as they cannot continue their way of life. They're broken so of course there's going to be problems but we're not in a position to judge them at all. I'll put it in perspective for you. We're domesticated sheep happily chewing cud on the gated grassland and we let out the occasional bleat each time we get fleeced. Once indigenous people are caged lions that have given up with their spirit broken.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 03:14 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Is it just me or does anyone else see any startling similarities to Americas native Indians and its current inhabitants?

Freedom people, it's what you haven't got...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 23:02 | Link to Comment BigDuke6
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The native americans were much tougher than the indians.

i like india and eating curry n'shit but the british empire took india and pakistan easy-peasy.

Many of the battles to take over india involved 5000 kilted highlanders pumped up on whisky versus 100,000 subcontinent tribesmen and it was a slaughter.   Soft as shite.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 23:50 | Link to Comment Hugh G Rection
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I love the smell of whiskey in the morning...

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 03:11 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Zulu!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 15:16 | Link to Comment spacecadet
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The Indians were only slaughtered because they didn't have a Central bank.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:04 | Link to Comment Hard1
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Heck, I don't celebrate thanksgiving, but thanks ZH for being the only honest financial news source left. oh, and for being fun as well.   Keep it up Tyler!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:07 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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I can most certainly agree with that...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:09 | Link to Comment Bruin4
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THANKSGIVING DAY MUST WATCH!!!

As always, the amazing Mr. Bill Black. He spells it all out here. Brilliant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_AuvLTJNh0&feature=results_main&playnext...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 23:58 | Link to Comment DeltaDawn
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Great presentation. This should be on prime time news instead of a guy shitting on a police car.
I do disagree about the job losses. Our economy was overheated by fiat status, home equity lines of credit, zero savings rates and liar loans. Everyone could suddenly afford x, y and z. As consumers we relished the "everyday low prices" regardless of jobs being sent to sweat shops. Short-term thinking. Now it is biting us in the butt and the artificial growth jobs are going away.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:43 | Link to Comment mess nonster
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In the Revolutionary war, the iroquois Federation was allied with the British, as were most intact Native American tribes north of the Mason Dixon line. South of that line, the Cherokee were carefully neutral; farther south, the territory wasn't even part of the British colonial empire in North America.

Wanker.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:17 | Link to Comment chunga
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....and the Seminoles never gave up.

+1 for them...lol

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:56 | Link to Comment zhandax
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The ones who stayed in Florida never gave up.  And they did end up buying the Hard Rock Cafe chain for almost $1 billion.  Happy Thanksgiving to all here!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 15:36 | Link to Comment Mark Wilson
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When I was a little kid, I lived about 1/4 mile from the Dade Battlefield Historic State Park in Bushnell, FL. I spent a lot of time there as it was within bicycle riding distance from my house and admission was free back in the 70's. In the small visitor's center, they had a dugout canoe with a half-moon-shaped cannonball hole in it. King Osceola was one bad-assed mo-fo! :D    

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:55 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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and where are the Iroquoise now then tosser?

More to the point, where are all the other tribes that would migrate from north to south and continued to do so by agreement with the British, that's the same agreements broken by the new Revolutionary government the instant it gained control?

So come on then arsewipe fuckin tosspot, tell us why you slaughter turkeys in memory of indians you subsequently tried to anihilate?

I'm curious...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 18:57 | Link to Comment IQ 101
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My wife is an Iroquois indian and she is sitting at her computer while the Turkey is cooking ,truth .

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 23:00 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Cool. Wish her a happy thanksgiving from me...

and you too...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:56 | Link to Comment The Limerick King
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I said Pardon???...

Just ranking your chain redpill, I don't hold a monopoly on ZH limericks.....at least - NOT YET!!! (BwaaHaaaHaaaHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa) /sarc off.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:08 | Link to Comment Doomsday Profit
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There once was a self-proclaimed "King"

Who said that rhymed verse was his thing

The fact that he spoke

Made everyone choke

His praises we no longer sing

 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:18 | Link to Comment knukles
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On Gratitude:

Once in a while it is suggested by folks that we be grateful on a day such as Thanksgiving.  Or remember on Memorial Day.  Or celebrate Christ's birth on Christmas.  Indeed, there are a veritable number of days upon which we are supposedly tasked to spend but a simple moment in reflection; nothing more, not a significant challenge.  Unfortunately, most simply view occasions such as these as another day off.  But that life being no more than it is what it is, that in and of itself should just be good enough. 
Or should it?
Here on Thanksgiving, we're asked to contemplate something a little more special, to look inward and give thanks to that for which we are grateful.  Odd, iisn't it, for gratitude is such a seemingly small, simple word meant to capture a feeling that when truly experienced, is of a grand, spiritual nature, felt as if a breeze virtually upon the literal cheek at the cellular level, bigger than anything that might generally be described but know and understood amongst those who have experienced such.
In some sub cultures, it is suggested that we periodically take pen in hand and write a gratude list in order that we manage to keep all in some semblence of rational perspective. 
I however, have chosen a rather contrary antithetical approach and periodically task myself with writing an Un-Gratitude list, keeping in perspective that we accept Un-Gratitude in the same fashion as Gratitude.... a hugely important experience of the human condition that is hard to expalin, but unbelieveably significant and important.  And sure enough, every time I set something down upon the Un-Gratitude side of the ledger, once it's revisited later, it's importance has diminished, become less that magniminious for it's generally made the list accompanied by two dispicable human emotions; ego and greed.  That simply, I am not getting what, how or who the way that I want it.
So in adding a shot of acceptance to my reflection, that it is what it is and that I am not in charge of the universe, my Un-Gratitude List melts to naught, the null, empty set, remembering the magnitude of Un-Gratefula/Grateful condition specified, which does not include the daily angst and anxiety of life.  
Thus, all entries upon the ledger fall into the Grateful category.
Yes, all.
I may rail, seethe, yell and scream, make eloquent points or appear the fool, here on ZH, as in life, I can speak my mind, enjoy the thoughts and considerations of others and relieve myself of my insecurities and angst.  I can make my points and be challenged.  And nobody gets hurt.
Fascinating. 
A process for which I am Grateful. 
A happy day of reflection to you all.
May peace be upon you.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:29 | Link to Comment fuu
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Thanks knukles.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Hulk
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I sometimes get Santa Claus and Jesus mixed up...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 15:59 | Link to Comment Socratic Dog
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Equally believable.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:53 | Link to Comment mtomato2
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I am a Knukles fan.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:58 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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Indeed, there are a veritable number of days upon which we are supposedly tasked to spend...

Unfortunately, you could have left it at that.   Not much we celebrate here in the U. S. does not involve the "consumer" getting out the wallet.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 20:25 | Link to Comment nmewn
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On Gratitude:

"Here on Thanksgiving, we're asked to contemplate something a little more special, to look inward and give thanks to that for which we are grateful.  Odd, isn't it, for gratitude is such a seemingly small, simple word meant to capture a feeling that when truly experienced, is of a grand, spiritual nature, felt as if a breeze virtually upon the literal cheek at the cellular level, bigger than anything that might generally be described but know and understood amongst those who have experienced such."

Well said knukles. Take care of the small things and the larger things take care of themselves.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:45 | Link to Comment Abitdodgie
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to keep ZeroHedge going don't forget the festive spirit and donate at least 100,000000 dollars each, just think how much you have saved finacially by reading this blog.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 22:03 | Link to Comment Hugh G Rection
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Happy Turkey Day Everyone!

For a laugh watch Bernanke (played by Hitler) complain about zerohedge and alternative media...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdCFnZ99YvA

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:28 | Link to Comment Tortfeasor
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Turkey slaughter isn't senseless...it's delicious.

Thanks and well wishes to The Tyler(s).

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:46 | Link to Comment Black Forest
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Why slaughter Turkey? It's also in NATO, isn't it?

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:26 | Link to Comment Carlyle Groupie
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We hand picked out Turkey this year at a local farm. Free range, plump and dirty.

We named him Benjamin Shalom. Then yesterday daddy cut his head off, drained his blood, and plucked his feathers.

Today we eat him after cooking him at 350 for 5 hours.

Celebrating a 13% increase in Turkey prices. Foul indeed.

TurkeyHedge to all!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:30 | Link to Comment nope-1004
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Ben did say that the increase in food staples was a direct result of "more sophisticated diets", and had nothing to do with currency debasement or monetary manipulation.

So thanks Carlyle for being so sophisticated and causing Turkey to rise 13% in price.

LOL.

Ben's a lying fool.

 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 15:37 | Link to Comment Gully Foyle
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Carlyle Groupie

Free range is such BULLSHIT!

What kind of feed are they eating?

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/nov/24/opinion/la-oe-blum-turkey-arseni...

"Most commercial-grade poultry feed today contains an arsenic-based pesticide. Like the Victorians, farmers use the poison because of its ability to improve appearances — in this case because arsenic's potent effect on blood vessels makes the chicken and turkey we buy look pinker and therefore fresher."

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/features/green/2011/06/poultry_industry_...

"

The poultry industry is rapidly phasing out use of arsenic in chicken feed after the Food and Drug Administration announced a "voluntary suspension" of the arsenic-laced drug because tests found elevated levels of the known carcinogen in birds fed the substance.

The announcement Wednesday (6/8) comes after years of controversy over the widespread poultry industry practice of giving chicks arsenic-laced feed to combat infection and give their flesh a pinker hue. Scientists and environmentalists have pressed state and federal governments to ban it, raising concerns about food safety and the environmental impact of arsenic in poultry waste getting into soil and streams."

Arsenic still in Turkey feed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martha-rosenberg/arsenic-antibiotics-asthm...

"In June, Pfizer announced it was ending arsenic-containing chicken feed, which no one realized they were eating anyway, but its arsenic-containing Histostat, fed to turkeys, continues. Poultry growers use inorganic arsenic, a recognized carcinogen, for "growth promotion, feed efficiency and improved pigmentation," says the FDA. Yum."

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 15:45 | Link to Comment a growing concern
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Jesus. Can I get my arsenic on the side? Kthanx.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 16:02 | Link to Comment Carlyle Groupie
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LOL! I appreciate your concern in my welfare Gully. I will keep away from the free range because Martha Rosenberg told me to.

Truth be told if you wanted to inject 'something' into the American people via voluntary consumption, engineer your 'something' as a heat activated pathogen that resides in the bone marrow of the turkey.

Once cooked it will marinade the meat from the inside out with your 'something'.

Enjoy your meal.

;)

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 16:07 | Link to Comment Socratic Dog
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Just put it in the water supply.  Only dangerous radicals complain about fluoride in the water.  The sheeple defend it to the death.  It's good for us!

Take a look at it some time.  Mercola.com is a good place to start.

Fluoride happens to be about the most reactive element there is.  Top right of periodic table.  So guess what it does in your body?  It...reacts.  Who would'a thunk it?

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 16:15 | Link to Comment Carlyle Groupie
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Preaching to the choir is a-ok on the hedge!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:27 | Link to Comment redpill
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Because we're Hungary of course!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:57 | Link to Comment Fake Jim Quinn
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You can deep it in Greece

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:25 | Link to Comment hidingfromhelis
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That might raise the ire of your portly neighbors if they don't get some themselves.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:33 | Link to Comment CPL
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1492. As children we were taught to memorize this year with pride and joy as the year people began living full and imaginative lives on the continent of North America. Actually, people had been living full and imaginative lives on the continent of North America for hundreds of years before that. 1492 was simply the year sea pirates began to rob, cheat, and kill them.

Kurt Vonnegut, Breakfast of Champions

 

Something like this?

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:00 | Link to Comment Zero_Sum
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You mean I'm the descendant of looting, murdering sea pirates? AWESOME! No matter how hard I try, I can't bring myself to feel bad about the fact that my ancestors conquered and subjugated a primitive culture.

 

Oh well. Time to drop the turkey into the deep fryer. Too bad the Redskins aren't playing this afternoon. I wonder if the casino at the local rez is open today... 

 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:18 | Link to Comment CPL
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It's a casino.  They are always open.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:19 | Link to Comment Zero_Sum
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Touche', sir.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:20 | Link to Comment Zero_Sum
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double-post

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 16:09 | Link to Comment Socratic Dog
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How do you like being on the receiving end for a change?  That's about what the 1% are doing to you.   They just aren't scalping you.  Yet.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 18:36 | Link to Comment Hohum
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Zero Sum,

I suspect you didn't try very hard.  But proclaiming might makes right is honest, at least.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:42 | Link to Comment IAmNotMark
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It is not a senseless slaughter of turkeys.  We are killing them so that we can eat them.  yum.

As a nation we are sharing a common meal.  Isn't that amazing?

I'd have been more impressed with Obama if he had chopped those heads off on the front lawn and deep fried those big juicy looking birds.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:57 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Iamnot, I was there for 12 years. Was married to an American. i saw the waste. Enormous waste, the day after. 

That is what I meant. A little ceremony ot the slaughter might help. Perhaps.

Gurdjieff said, very aptly, that if you do not know how to create even  a gnat, you have no right to take a life. 

Vegetarianism, it's the future of food. Soon, it will not be a choice, might as well love your tofurkey!

ORI

 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:02 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Oh regional Indian

"that if you do not know how to create even  a gnat, you have no right to take a life." 

By the same faulty logic, I guess you will be starving, since you do not know how to "create" a plant, another living thing.

By the way, I hope I am not eating your cousin.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:35 | Link to Comment Carlyle Groupie
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Oh snap, nice!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:08 | Link to Comment fuu
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Gurdjieff figured out how to create plants when he became daisy food.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:09 | Link to Comment Zero_Sum
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Vegetables are what my food eats. Look in the mirror. You see those four pointy teeth that you've got? they're not there for eating tofu.

 

We're apex predators. come to terms with it, or surrender your opposable thumbs and frontal lobe and stop bothering the rest of us.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:19 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Vegetables, are in Congress...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 22:50 | Link to Comment sullymandias
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You mean pizza right?

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Abitdodgie
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I have not eaten any meat for a month and a half now lost 11 pounds and I feel great

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 16:14 | Link to Comment Mark Wilson
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Vegetarians are probably healthier as a group. I think they pay more attention to the nutritional value of their diet than your average meat eating person (myself included). This business of not taking a life for food doesn't wash with me either, though. When challenged for eating fish, my good vegetarian friend conveniently described them as "sea vegetables" lol! 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 19:01 | Link to Comment dolph9
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Humans, at least as we are right now, are meant to be omnivores.  We evolved hunting small game, and the protein found in meat is essential for muscle and organ development.

I'm not convinced vegetarians are healthier, perhaps only a small subset of them.  Vegetables alone can never be as filling as meat, which means many vegetarians end up eating alot of carbohydrates and dairy which is unhealthy in a different way.

Best to eat meat but limit portions, and concentrate on leaner cuts.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 22:19 | Link to Comment Last_2_Sense
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What has always struck me as ironic about vegetarians is that, even while they might not eat meat, their 27 cats eat a couple head of cattle a year. 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 18:38 | Link to Comment Hohum
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Zero sum,

Where did you put your thinking cap?  Looking at human teeth, one might suggest a little meat eating but primarily plants.  If you believe in evolution, look at what other primates eat.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 23:58 | Link to Comment UP Forester
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMXk5Z6-IHY

 

edit: favorite line: "The chimps hunt because they like meat."

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:23 | Link to Comment knukles
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So in the interim, as we eagerly await our tofurkies, enjoy your deepfried Elephantcowpigturkenduckchickenquailsparrrowhummingbird.

Waste not want not.

<:)

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:18 | Link to Comment What_Me_Worry
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"Vegetarianism, it's the future of food."

Fine by me.  My benevolent leaders voted to make pizza a vegetable.  Bring on the vegetarianism, with extra pepperoni and bacon!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Hulk
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I don't know how to make a celery either, but I take its life anyway. Like to listen to celery scream too, while I crunch away at it...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 22:15 | Link to Comment Hohum
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Hulk,

You're full of shit, man.  Celery doesn't have a central nervous system ;)

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:57 | Link to Comment mtomato2
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If you don't know how to create a microprocessor, you have no business blogging.

Other then that, I think you're O.K.  Happy Thanksgiving from a happy carnivore.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 15:20 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Zing! Nice Mtomato! To you also.

ORI

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 15:40 | Link to Comment Gully Foyle
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Oh regional Indian

Was a Vegan. Recently added Fish and Eggs as the Soy based shit increased my Estrogen levels well beyond normal.

I would say that protein derived from Insects is the future of food.

I read an article about six months ago about India have a problem with lack of protein in food.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 16:24 | Link to Comment Mark Wilson
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If they can make insects look and taste like hot dogs, I'll eat 'em! :)

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 00:08 | Link to Comment LongBallsShortBrains
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You take advantage of the immobility of a carrot. It doesn't have a chance. At least a cow can run away (which is probably why they taste so damn good) unlike a vegetable, who is paralyzed ( in a vegetative state)... Sicko

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:44 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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You'll have to hope for President Palin for that spectacle.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:46 | Link to Comment lotsoffun
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generosity - not something the sub-continent contingent knows much about.

 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 15:43 | Link to Comment Gully Foyle
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Oh regional Indian

I don't think lack of generosity is the issue. I think lack of Objectivity is.

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach him how to fish and he eats for the rest of his life.


Thu, 11/24/2011 - 17:08 | Link to Comment Hook Line and S...
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Interesting how the eating of an animal can save it from extinction. Perhaps we should consume more buffalo. After all, the meat is better for you than any of ther other corn fed, anitibiotic laden, hormone injected meats. There are only ~4000 genetically pure bison left on the planet. This organization is buying the bison yellowstone 'culls' every year on behalf of the adjacent ranchers, and relocating them onto Northern Plains reservations.

http://buffaloproject.org/Buffalo_Restoration_Project/Welcome.html

Eat bison, not turkey.

Hook Line and Sphincter ( ! )J

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:49 | Link to Comment Husk-Erzulie
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Look at that...

...BITCHEZ!  ;~P

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:16 | Link to Comment Cheesy Bastard
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The Occupy wall street movement is a bunch of babies with tea-ness envy.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:22 | Link to Comment Matt1973
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Amen, my Cheesy brother...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:39 | Link to Comment AmCockerSpaniel
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So what do you guys think about "The US Covered Bond Act of 2011". Don't know? Here's a link...

 

http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1162830

 

Oh; Happy Thanksgiving Day while we can still afford it.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:52 | Link to Comment boiltherich
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Naked theft, nobody is going to go for that.  Even if they did manage to get it passed the consequences would be so dire that it would be just the hurricane force gust that finally took down the card houses. 

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:19 | Link to Comment spankthebernank
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Thank you Zero Hedge!!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:29 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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Google george washingtons thanksgiving day proclamation.

He established a standard date to celebrate.

If you want to understand our roots.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 16:05 | Link to Comment fuu
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See slewies post below for a much better link: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/thanksgiving-day-open-thread#comment-19112...

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 12:39 | Link to Comment SamAdams1234
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End Game: Kensyian War.

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 13:07 | Link to Comment He_Who Carried ...
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A small-town Greek mayor visits the home of his friend the mayor of a small rural Italian town and is blown away by the amount of luxury on display: Swimming pool, three cars, big house with 10 bedrooms and 7 bathrooms.

He goes: My dear friend, who paid for all this?

The Italian says: The EU did. See that bridge, the EU paid for a two-lane bridge! We built a one lane bridge and put traffic lights at both ends.

 A year later the Italian visits the Greek at his place on some barren Aegean island and falls on his back. The Greek lives in a palace with indoor AND outdoor pool, a private yacht in a private harbor, several cars and  the house has 15 bathrooms.

The Italian goes: My dear colleague, how is this possible, who paid for all this splendor?

The Greek answers: The EU did. You see that bridge over there…?

The Italian: No…? !

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Thu, 11/24/2011 - 14:13 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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What special bottle are my fellow ZHers opening tonight?

Me: Chateau Lanessan 1982 (a brilliant year).

You?

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