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Thawing The Cold War: Russia Found To Be Supplying Syria With Weapons, US Not Amused
Remember the cold war: evil Empire, 5 year plans, Lada cars, etc? It may very well be back, this time over the simple matter of a few million barrels of crude per day, after Russia was found to be quietly supplying an embargoed Syria with ammunition, in violation of a weapons embargo. Reuters reports: "A Russian-operated ship carrying a cargo of ammunition has reached conflict-torn Syria after being temporarily halted during a refuelling stop in Cyprus, sources in Russia and Cyprus said on Friday. A source in Cyprus, where the ship made an unscheduled stop for refuelling late on Tuesday, said the ship had given written assurances to authorities its destination would not be Syria but Turkey. It was allowed to sail a day later, whereupon it dropped off conventional tracking systems, switched course and reached Syria on Thursday. "It had bullets. There were four containers on board," a Cypriot official told Reuters." And here the plot thickens: we now have some war mongering deepthroat somewhere in Leningrad, pardon, St. Petersburg: "The ship was carrying a dangerous cargo," the source at St. Petersburg-based Westberg Ltd. said by telephone on condition of anonymity. "It reached Syria on Jan. 11th." Needless to say, the US is not very happy that Russia is doing precisely what it warned a few months ago it would do: namely protect its sphere of influence especially in light of the ever-encroaching NATO aspirations (yes, provocations go both ways as Ron Paul has long been warning): "The United States said on Friday it had raised concerns with Moscow over a Russian-operated ship that has arrived in Syria and which sources said contained a cargo of bullets. "With regard to the ship we have raised our concerns about this both with Russia and with Cyprus, which was the last port of call for the ship, and we are continuing to seek clarification as to what went down here," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said." Looks like the escalation in the Straits of Hormuz is about to shift to the backburner as we finally go back to where the real tension is and always has been: between West and East.
More from Reuters:
Russia has long been a major arms supplier to Syria, where President Bashar al-Assad has been trying to crush a 10-month-old wave of unrest by lethal armed force, raising an international outcry and triggering Western and Arab sanctions against Damascus that Moscow has refused to join.
In Russia, a source at the vessel's St. Petersburg-based firm said the ship Chariot had reached Syria, but declined to comment on reports the ship was carrying cargo from Russia's state weapons exporter Rosoboronexport.
The Chariot sailed from St. Petersburg on Dec. 9.
Rosoboronexport spokesman Vyacheslav Davidenko said on Friday the arms exporter would neither confirm nor deny the report. "We do not comment on where our deliveries go, when they leave port or how."
A Turkish foreign ministry official on Friday confirmed the ship had reached Syria.
"As of 10:15 a.m. (0815 GMT) yesterday the Turkish navy checked and confirmed that the ship in question was docked at the Syrian port of Tartus," ministry spokesman Selcuk Unal said.
Russia has voiced strong opposition to arms embargoes and has repeatedly promised to uphold arms contracts with Damascus, one of its top weapons customers, despite increasing international pressure.
Cyprus, an EU member with traditionally close ties to Russia, has maintained it was obliged to allow the vessel to go.
"Since it had changed destination, and (if) we would not have allowed it to go, the company could cite illegal detention of a ship," the Cypriot official said.
The island has bitter experience in dealing with confiscated arms destined from one sanction-hit country to another.
An unnamed military source was quoted as saying in December that Russia had delivered anti-ship Yakhont missiles to Syria.
Syria accounted for 7 percent of Russia's total of $10 billion in arms deliveries abroad in 2010, according to the Russian defence think tank CAST.
Why Syria?
The European Union said on Friday it was aware of the case and national authorities were responsible for making sure an EU arms embargo is upheld.
"We are instrumental in putting these measures in place but it's up to the national authorities to make sure they are implemented and as far as I'm aware the authorities in this case are confident that the embargo has not been broken," said Michael Mann, spokesman for Catherine Ashton, the EU's high representative for foreign affairs.
The Westberg official said the company had done nothing wrong as no Russian law prevented the delivery from being made at Syria's Tartus port, where Russia maintains a naval base.
"The ship went to Syria as there was nothing illegal in reaching its originally intended destination," he said.
In October, Russia and China vetoed a western European-led resolution on Syria that threatened sanctions for the bloodshed the U.N. says has killed 5,000 people, Russia tabled a new draft resolution last month.
And should the age old tensions between Russia and the US flare up again, take a wild guess on whose side China will be. The only question is the European wildcard which for now relies so very much on Fed bailouts. Yet one wonders: what happens when Russia shuts down the gas?
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IQ ...so who loses?
The guys on the ship.
Bingo! we have a winner, but you forgot the other losers ,the US tax payer and the kids who, unborn yet, will get to pay the bill for the banksta gangsta advencha, Ponzi, phony, Dog and Pony Show,
Our's is the bill,bud, and the shed blood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRNYqsMIbg0
Paul Bogdanich,
do you recognize this catch:
USSA EXCEPTIONALISM
I can't help but think we're somehow overplaying our geopolitical hand.
Hope I'm wrong.
We are also traing and arming "rebles" right outside the border of Syria to send in to topple the Assad regime. So a tit for tat. We are just as guity. We also either killed or supported the killing of a university professor in Teran the other day. Sounds like terrorism to me. Why did we dod this? To prevent Iran from getting the same weapons we and Israel have? Sounds like hypocripsy to me.
I would like to supply you with a dictionary.
Time for some good ole CIA drug peddling
Corrosive 7.62mm x 39mm in metal spam cans for sure...
But those old corrosive surplus ammunition at least have their slanting bullets hit the target sideways for maximum effect...
Four containers of small arms russian ammo ? No margin , no story,
move on...
Four crates of bullets? Shit I have that many.
Seriously! It makes you wonder what went unnoticed while this distraction took everyone's attention.
That's a good point.
No you don't, I seem to remember that they were all lost during that last hunting trip. You know, when the canoe rolled? Remember, I lost all my PMs then too.
I try to block that terrible day out of my mind.
Dont worry, the Agents will know how to get your memory back, when they will need to.
No need to invoke any brains in a nine-to-five government
job. Agent, special agent and all their internal distinctions are for pay grade only.
Be paranoid, but stay away from the movies telling you those
thugs could challenge you in any way. They can`t and they won`t.
US logic.
It is not okay for Russia to supply Syria with weapons because the US is against Syria.
It is okay for the US to supply Afghanistan with weapons because Russia was against Afghanistan.
Conclusion. USA are a bunch of hypocrites.
Logic didn't work so well against King George either. Empires are always right even when they are not!
Russia doesn't want the Muslim Bro to get any closer. the US has stationed missiles in the new Nato countries which are indefensible and raise the anxiety level considerably, and in places like Ukraine there are Muslims inside the military, something which came to the fore in the post 9/11 Ukraine shootdown of a Israeli airliner over the Black Sea, called an accident all American experts said no way was an accidental shootdown possible. is the US spreading terrorism? you put dangerous first strike weapons into the hands of these EE countries many with commande structures which have divided religious loyalties. hell its possible they might just turn the missiles around and aim them at Europe. Bill Clinton went around Russia buying up nuclear material but the Cheney Bush people quietly returned some of this stuff into dubious hands.
i have always considered the death of Bhutto as the one thing that stopped W Bush from a third term (and the financial meltdown) they wanted Bhutto because she would have sold or given them the keys to the Pakistani nuclear arsenal. getting those birds out would have been a major foreign policy coup. while on the other hand arming dubious nations on the border of Russia with the same weapons, and proudly saying the entire time that they pursue a policy of disarmament.
Bush gave nukes to India as I recall while threatening to bomb Pakistan into the stone age. Barry really hasn't any foreign policy, but he can always call W if he needs to know what it is.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/may/09/nuclear.northkorea
Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary, sat on the board of a company which three years ago sold two light water nuclear reactors to North Korea - a country he now regards as part of the "axis of evil"
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2006/10/10/7954/rumsfeld-abb/
Rumsfeld has never acknowledged that he knew the company was competing for the nuclear contract. In response to questions about his role in the reactor deal, former Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clarke told Newsweek in February 2003 that “there was no vote on this”
I suppose that selling a nuclear reactor or helping build/design one in a totalatarian communist country is something that senior management would not talk about *rolls eyes*
4 containers ... that's a lot of fucking bullets.
Lots of Libyan and Egyptian banksta targets to engage.
I think there's a million rounds per container.
there were bullets aboard? No!
Russia's going to keep that corridor open, n>s to Israel if it kills them.
RP would get caught up in this by hook or by crook if he were prez.
Russia has oil and is not allied with the U.S. What is there not to understand? Instability in the MENA is good for Russia. Increased problems for the U.S., which is financially imploding and attempting to reduce the military costs, is good for Russia and China.
After its adventures in Afghanistan and its aggressive role in radical Muslim control within Russian influence boundaries, a long term Russian/Muslim peace is not in the cards. However, an unstable balance of the USA, Russia/China, Dictators, and Muslim Jihad may be just what Russia needs to build its economy and re-establish its World position.
Notice that the hot button Israel is not on the front page right now. Agitation instability grouping, also known as AIG (pun), and the rotation of it, without making the Big Bang is just what Dr. Stalin would have ordered. Stalin Jr., Putin knows his game well.
high price oil $150-200 will serve well the interests of big oil corp: chevron exxon shell and their friends :) seems time again to reap windfall
The cold war never really ended. The more blood Russia can drain from the West now, the more hegemony for them when we die of the inevitable economic heart attack.
MENA is now about Sunni vs Shia (Iranian) sect rivalries and the lines are being drawn. The West is supporting the Sunnis, aka Muslim Brotherhood, aka Arabs, aka old Ottoman Empire. They have the most oil. Ressurrection of the 500 year Ottoman Empire, which just ended at the end of WWI at the hands of the West, is the sole reason for the MB to exist since 1929. They have been global and methodical. The MB now have free access to the Obama White House through their PR arm, CAIR. The Sunni and Shia are the two Islamic sects tthat been that have been fighting for control of Islam ever since the day Muhommad died in the 7th century.
MENA: Shia (Iran, Persians) + Russia + China vs. Sunni (Suadis, Arabs) + USA + Europe. Recall that Syria is an 85% Sunni majority, but Assad is Shia, so h's already gone.
The Shia (Persian) Crescent: Iran, most of Iraq, and Lebanon. Iran all Shia; Iraq is 75% Shia; Hezbollah (Lebanon) is Shia. Russian and China appear to be supporting the Shia and the secular Shia diktats hanging on. Just like Bashir Assad, who is a London trained opthalmic surgeon who unexpectedly inherited the father's job when his older brother died young.
The Sunni (Arabs): Egypt, Saudi, Emirates, Kuwait, Libya, Turkey, are being pulled together and resurrected again by the Sunni MB into a Caliphate with the help of the USA and Europe, clearly to secure access to their oil. People of the West are being culturally sold out to Sharia Law for access to the MB controlled oil.
But you need bullets and guns to start a premeditated and planned WW3. It is said that by WW4 we'll be fighting with sticks and stones. By then Russian ships will be a moot point.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/10/iran-nuclear-russia-plants-idUSL5E7MA2K320111110
Chariot: cargo paid for by;
Turning on the lights in The Great Wal Mart of China Shopper's zero interest prison.
A '' zero interest tax shelter (AKA American Home Owner via unemployment and wage deflation) for evil new world order global banker bastards'') powered by Trillion Dollar Debts Notes the U.S. Congress gave the Russians, for their Nuclear waste, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOussMub1kg
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Arch-Duke meet The Latin Bridge in Sarajevo.
It was actually a block away, on a side street. Nice looking buildings, though, no tank-round damage and not too many bullet pockmarks.
No big trees left, though, those were burnt for heat during the siege.
http://www.superstock.co.uk/stock-photos-images/4069-6401
I've actually got a '14 Study body and multiple doors I'm going to rod-out eventually....
Senior Russian Military Official: We will destroy the elctronic defences of Western Europe if the West invades Syria.
Senior Russian Military Official: We will destroy the elctronic defences of Western Europe if the West invades Syria.
US and NATO never attack their enemies, only their friends. Ghaddafi survived for decades for as long as he was an enemy of the West. No sooner he started making deals with US and UK oil companies and shook hands with Western leaders and opened up, his game was over.
Iran kicked out British Embassy for a reason. Also Pakistan cut off NATO supplies and vacated the Shamsi airbase for same reasons and now its civilian sold out government is getting instable by pressure from Army and Judiciary.
Syria and Iran will do fine. It will take a falseflag operation to kick off war with them and it will be WW3 for sure.
On the surface it might seem like Sunni Vs Shia but its not quite unless where there are agent provocatuers and infiltrators who deliberately flare up tensions.
e.g. Turks are Sunnis but they hate Arabs, esp Saudis, with a passion and regard them as traitors for siding with British and breaking up Ottoman empire. So not all Sunnis are pro Arab and not all Sunnis are Anti Shia. Similarly poor Sunni Arabs hate oil rich Arabs.
The real battle lines will only be drawn once the war starts.
How else would you do it, we simply play these idiots off against each other while stealing their natural resources.
Where the fugg have you been for the last 250 years?
If the formula works why alter it?
I want my standard of living to continue, the fact that people i dont know suffer is inconsequential to me.
"Where the fugg have you been for the last 250 years?"
You can't expect from most people a more than cursory knowledge of history - for most, colonization is a bygone era...
Don't fall for that Turks are Sunnis bullshit, Turkey has been ruled by crypto jews since the Young Turks.
Well that's a fucking understatement. Good thing the morons running the show here (Cyprus) have appreciated their level of imbecility and whatever sanction-labelled arms-carrying vessel comes even near the island, is being treated like the plague.
The ship's brief arrival has sparked a level of nonsensical conspiratorial conversation here, regarding its true destination, vis-a-vis Syria or Turkey, but I think it was pretty clear that it was heading to Syria with "mother" Russia's "gifts".
Moreover Cyprus was obliged to release the Russian ship due to our "traditional connections" that are Russia's low interest loans.
It seemed that Russia was reassessing its geostrategic strategy in the Mediterranean, despite the "soft" military display with its carrier and warships roaming the area, performing "military exercises".
I wouldn't think that they were ready to give up their investment, that is the Tartus port in Syria, without some effort, since the port was destined to be Russian fleet's new home.
The US flies in and equips al quaeda folk who just "liberated libya" and arms them against syria... now the US gets cheesed that Syria is enabled to defend their sovereignty by another country..
Color me shocked.. as a member of a NAOT nation, fuck nato.
Only the US is allowed to sell weapons to other countries. Does this mean Russia is planning on labeling Syria as an enemy and blow them up?? LMAO.
but...don't we want to be like Jesus...
don't we trust in God....let him take care of our enemies...
Hay-ul no.
Praise the Lord and PASS THE AMMUNITION DAMN IT!
What would Jesus do?
Matthew 18
The Greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven
1 At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”
2 He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. 3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
Causing to Stumble
6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come! 8 If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. 9 And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.
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Translated for the modern day where millstones do not abound...
In other words Jesus would cast fire on to all the nations of Europe, USA, Americas, Middle East, Asia, and others in between...for the denizens all seek to be like ADULts (IDOLs)...for the most part. Many who say "kid at heart" are often throwing out empty words...and can't back the smack so to speak.
...religion or not...hypocrisy abounds...and folk who don't even read their own scriptures!
Yeah...and Jesus was a black man too...born on September 11!
"Translated for the modern day where millstones do not abound...
In other words Jesus would cast fire on to all the nations of Europe, USA, Americas, Middle East, Asia, and others in between...for the denizens all seek to be like ADULts (IDOLs)...for the most part. Many who say "kid at heart" are often throwing out empty words...and can't back the smack so to speak."
Thank's for your unvarnished answer, just what I was thinking.
Here is one back at ya.
"And I looked, and behold a Pale horse; and his name that sat upon him was death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the Fourth Part of the earth (32nd parellel) to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with the beasts on earth."
Revelations:
Chapter 6 Verse 8
32nd Parellel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32nd_parallel_north
a case can be made from the Bible that the rider on the white horse is a Syrian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH0PhDyg_gQ ...hmmm 32, 33.33, 2012, where is Mt Hermon and the Golan Heights in proportion to our time? Tom Horn has a bit to add. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9kkZaQeugM
Maybe it's time for me to buy that Moisin Nagant (?).
No shit Sherlock! The State Dept. knew this back in 2002. and knew the WMD's in Iraq were sent to Syria in 2003. Soo, I ask, where is the news?
Or has war turned into sell arms to Countries you would like to invade?
Don't worry about European gas. The US is going to become a Nett energy exporter of gas from shale plays.
This will also put MASSIVE downward pressure on oil, which in turn will bankrupt Iran. The cult of Peak Oil will be voluntarily disbanded and a glorious victory and future for freedom all around the world will be ensured.
The "beacon of hope" that is America will shine *eternally bright*
Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free*
*(except Mexicans and Muslims of course, because the former are either taking jobs or picking up limousines courtesy of welfare and come on everyone knows Muslims are terrorists, so much so that we don't even need trials and due process any more)
Don't be silly. The keys you are stroking on your keyboard are made out of oil. Everything is made of oil. Peak Oil deniers like yourself should be locked in a cell and forced to watch "Beyond The Peak" 24/7 until you repent your misguided ways. It's found at 2:23:43 of Zeitgeist Moving Forward - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w
Watch the "Collapse" documentary with Michael Ruppert.
Abiotic oil is reality, get used to it.
Said this long ago, Syria, has been getting weapons by the cargo container full from Russia and esp IRAN, to keep Hamas and Hezbollah fully equipped to wreak havoc on Israeli settlements.
They do not want a Palestinian truce, or state, they want Israel to disappear.
They do not want a Palestinian truce, or state, they want Israel to disappear.
Well, they can all be repatriated back to their home countries. Germans are democracitised and civilised now.
I wonder if there were any carrier-killing supercavitating torpedoes in that load...
In the other 40 containers in the ships hold.
Dont matter if there was, you would need the entire Sub crew to be suicidal.
The chances of firing it and living longer than 15 minutes......NIL
The Author posits: "And should the age old tensions between Russia and the US flare up again ..."
No. No. No. There are no tensions between East and West or North and South. The only tensions are between politicians, governments, and media. Can the average man in the U.S. name an Iranian citizen with which he has a bone to pick? Can you name a Russian citizen who is causing you tension?
Doesn't Damascus, in no uncertain terms, get nuked in the book of Revelation?
Can't have a war without money.
Someone paid for those bullets, and everything else. So who paid? Who handled the transaction.
Someones funding everything that's happened over the last year. Fiat is moving through accounts from one group to another. the chaos of 2011 in the MENA cost someone allot of money. All the transactions had to be handled by someone. It certainly was not rebel group's in the desert with a checking account.
Follow the money.
PS Wars have to be paid for. it is very interesting to follow the money 1900-1918 and 1924 to 1945. Esp 1931 to 1945 or even as late as 1947.
ha ha, US is mad b/c they beat us to the sell to Syria.
Extraordinary analysis, my friend.
meanwhile israelis are impersonating cia agents:
Buried deep in the archives of America's intelligence services are a series of memos, written during the last years of President George W. Bush's administration, that describe how Israeli Mossad officers recruited operatives belonging to the terrorist group Jundallah by passing themselves off as American agents. According to two U.S. intelligence officials, the Israelis, flush with American dollars and toting U.S. passports, posed as CIA officers in recruiting Jundallah operatives -- what is commonly referred to as a "false flag" operation.
The memos, as described by the sources, one of whom has read them and another who is intimately familiar with the case, investigated and debunked reports from 2007 and 2008 accusing the CIA, at the direction of the White House, of covertly supporting Jundallah -- a Pakistan-based Sunni extremist organization. Jundallah, according to the U.S. government and published reports, is responsible for assassinating Iranian government officials and killing Iranian women and children.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/01/13/false_flag
I think they know how to make bullets in Syria, I imagine the Russians are selling far higher "value added" commodities than bullets.
Nobody should be offended by this, ITS JUST BUSINESS, (like us outfitting & training the Georgian army, or invading Iraq for oil or bombing the shit out of Libya on behalf of the "arab street").
The Russians have the exact same agenda as our creep govt-making money and mainting control.
us-seeking-close-down-iran-central-bank
Haven't seen this one yet on ZH but this is a declaration of war in all but name. Using economic weaponry to destroy the monetary machine of your enemy? Where's the pool on when war starts? I say before March.
Better be nice to Putin, Dick-Hillary and Bullshit Barry...
Maybe Syria requires ships... but Russia can supply Iran by rail car...
maybe when our military takes the scenic tour of syria, we'll find those pesky wmd iraq moved there, saddam will then be the ultimate rascal and hey, think of the instant press legitimacy declaring it wasn't about oil.
Seems the iranians won, sanctions quietly dropped by the west.
Guess the Iranian navy scared the carrier group away............
Gotta keep crude below 100 or else we all crash back down to earth.
It’s pay back time baby! Remember the U.S. providing the cavemen in Afghanistan with Stingers to shoot down Russian planes and heli’s?
After Iraq and Libya, the Chinese and Russians are now paying attention. They are having serious reservations about cooperating with the West's humanitarian intentions in Syria and Iran.
Now the latest headlines read
January 13, 2012
Russia: Attack on Iran Threat to Us
Russia would regard any military intervention linked to Iran's nuclear program as a threat to its own security, Moscow's ambassador to NATO said Friday. "Iran is our neighbor, and if Iran is involved in any military action, it's a direct threat to our security," Dmitry Rogozin said. "We are definitely interested in the non-proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. But at the same time, we believe that any country has the right to have what it needs to feel comfortable, including Iran."
the drums are just getting louder....$150-200 is coming