This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.
"A Time For Choosing"
Earlier today we saw several republican candidates debate at the Ronald Reagan Library, to a general response that can best be described as disenchanted, and at worst: outright ridicule (don't get us wrong - this debate is the funniest thing in prime time entertainment until Obama's "This time Keynesianism will work, I promise" aka "Change you can bereave in" speech tomorrow). So speaking of Ronald Regan we decided we would present to our readers this 30 minute clip from a televised address for the 1964 Goldwater presidential campaign. What is most eerie is that the adverse conditions described by Reagan then are almost identically comparable to those in our current deplorable state, nearly half a century later. What is also just as eerie, although probably not surprising, is that while the GOP debates induced mostly a sense of loathing (either for the self, or others), speeches such as this, which actually force the listener to stop and think, are truly a rarity nowadays. Perhaps America should first ask itself what happened to real leadership and real leaders, those it can be proud of, before it rushes headlong to elect the next one.
And just the cliff notes on topic number 1: central planning
»
- 22138 reads
- Printer-friendly version
- Send to friend
- advertisements -
I sometimes wonder when exactly Tyler sold Zerohedge and it is now a site owned by republicans. I feel like I'm in an abusive relationship sometimes since The first year this site was something truly special and almost historical...the posts and comments were gold and it was truly insightful into the dark pools of economics and finance. Now many of the great posts are long forgotem and there is a second generation of commenters. IU long for the old site but I feel like Im getting hit in the face with this blatantly politcal crap aka cheerleading for the GOP and overall disdain for Obama in almost every post. Say it aint so...think about maybe the reason Marla left was because of this reason/theory. But I woulda took the money too. Show me the money. Now watch as the thuumbs down poar in as I breached the sacred rule to hate Obama no matter what.
The exit is clearly marked.
i enjoy messing with the poster below me too much to leave...its fun messing with brainwashed douche bags who never had an original thought in their life. Its fun on HuffPost too. All you idiots are the same.
You're dumb and your momma dresses you funny.
Thanks ZH for this. Astounding speech making. I couldnt help but notice the lack of teleprompter! that is such a norm these days. Contrast this with the big teleprompter speech which is coming again to us tomorrow.
It has often been considered to be a useful trait among actors to posses the ability to memorize the lines that have been written for you.
You do realize he was an actor, don't you? Granted...he sucked as an actor...but that's another story.
Actor, president of actor's guild, two term governor of California, and the President who defeated the Soviet Empire.
You are an asshole.
Reagan rocked.
"the president that defeated the Soviet empire"?
and I suppose you also think the Superman comics are based on a true story?
Nevermind. I need to sleep.
We can war tommorrow.
Hey moron, he wrote his own speeches. Don't you have some foodstamps you need to spend? So many loosers on this thread, wtf....
I did not know Peggy Noonan and RR were the same. You learn something new everyday. Or maybe they're not and you are just a liar with an agenda.
Just like we will and everyone else did, the soviet empire defeated itself
Ever tried giving a 5 minute speech, let alone a 30 minute one?? And that too making succinct arguments throughout with numbers supporting them (though some may or may not agree with these arguments)??
Sorry, but I bet that what comes out in your 5 minute speech, if you can make one, is half garbage.
I've worked in film, TV and theater my entire adult life. I've seen actors get off-book on lead roles in Shakespeare plays in a matter of two weeks or less. Seen one man shows go from first rehearsal to in front of an audience in two to three weeks and less.
It's only mystical from the outside looking in. From the inside...it's a job.
Then you have the podium for yourself. Lets see how good speech maker you are. The race for WH is still open.
Bud, its easy to cast someone off by painting with a broad brush, of being a actor, try following his footsteps.
why would I want to follow in the footsteps of a man I did not and do not respect? that's asinine.
and the actor comment is only one of many others I made. his role as the head of SAG is not as an "actor". It was very much a political one..and not a pretty one at that. what I said about his tenure as SAG president is a fact not an opinion.
it just strikes me as sadly comical that people are impressed by something as mundane as the ability to memorize a prepared speech. I guess it's just another example of how low the standards for intellectual and mental capacity have fallen.
Reagan had a degree in economics. And if he was so stupid, how come Obama is such a failure? If the stupid people are so much smarter than Obama, how stupid must Obama really be? Let's see those affirmative action transcripts.
An often forgotten fact about Ronnie is that he was the head of the Screen Actors Guild (SAG) union during the McCarthy "Blacklist" era. During his time as president of SAG, Ronnie did all he could to cooperate with McCarthy...which included destroying many careers of often innocent people.
Often guilty too.
Wow you really tipped your hand with that post. It pretty much sums you up that you agree with that type of behavior.
1940s-ongoing :
J. "Edna" Hoover's FBI, in its self-appointed role as the American Stasi, spies on and builds up massive files over decades on almost every public figure in the U.S. who fails to prove his or her "patriotism" by being less than overtly fascist.
Among the thought criminals targeted by the FBI are...
Dashiell Hammett,
Paul Robeson,
Lillian Hellman,
Pearl Buck,
Thomas Mann,
Sinclair Lewis,
Helen Keller,
Albert Einstein,
John Lennon,
Carl Sandburg,
Irwin Shaw,
Arthur Miller,
Tennessee Williams,
Benjamin Spock,
Rex Stout,
E.B. White,
Georgia O'Keeffe,
Dorothy Parker,
Ernest Hemingway and tens of thousands more.
Damn near everyone in the country except Walt Disney, SS Generalmajor Wernher Von Braun and Ronald "Bloodbath" Reagan, in fact.
John Steinbeck is targeted because, in the Grapes of Wrath, he "portrayed an extremely sordid and poverty-stricken side of American life", the truth being strictly verboten in the world's loudest demockracy.
Hoover sends a four page warning letter about Jonas Salk, the discoverer of insulin, to the White House because Salk belongs to the American-Soviet Medical Society. Albert Einstein is watched continuously from 1940 on because he attends pacifist meetings and had outrageously opposed the fascists in the Spanish civil war. By the time of Einstein's death, the FBI file on him will have grown to thousands of pages.
Even being non-American isn't enough to prevent you being labeled "un-American". Britons prominent in the U.S. are targeted by the American Stasi, including the sculptor Henry Moore, writer Aldous Huxley and the man who topped Hoover's personal most hated list, Charlie Chaplin.
The FBI and its predecessor Bureau of Investigation spied on and maintained files on Chaplin for half a century because Hoover claimed to be terrified that Chaplin's "communistic" movies would "infect the minds of the people."
Aside from his liberal leanings, Chaplin infuriated J. "Edna", because he was more famous than the megalomanic fellatio artist and cross dresser.
Hoover's chance to persecute Chaplin came in 1942 when a mentally ill actress claimed that Chaplin was the father of her child and Hoover attempted to prosecute Chaplin under the Mann Act for "crossing state lines for immoral purposes".
It was an ironic charge coming from an interstate fellatio artist and travelling transvestite. That attack ended when blood tests proved Chaplin could not be the father.
Hoover continued to illegally hound, wiretap and spy on Chaplin until, in 1952 the actor was finally expelled from the world's loudest demockracy for being an "unsavory character".
Even after the expulsion, Hoover kept Chaplin on the "Security Index", the list of those persons in the land of the free who are to be rounded up and held in concentration camps in the event of a "national emergency".
When Chaplin is invited to Hollywood in 1972 to receive a special Academy Award, Hoover lobbies against issuing a visa to the actor. Chaplin's FBI file will ultimately grow to almost two thousand pages.
In 1975, three years after Hoover's long overdue and unlamented demise, a Congressional committee uncovers the fact that the FBI is still devoting almost twenty percent of its total resources to spying and maintaining dossiers on innocent people, the vast majority American citizens, in the manner attributed by the U.S. mass media to the KGB and the East German Stasi.
Terrific post.
Walt Disney was quite cooperative with the FBI as well.......
Both Disney and Reagan had rather fictional 'memories' of what America was.......
They both longed for some 'ideal' that never was. Disney created a 'perfect' America circa 1890 small town America - ignoring the real poverty in rural and industrial America while Ronnie's sense of history was often some Hollywood propaganda movie with no basis in reality.
Ironic how America loves fictional heros like John Wayne (who never served) and is oblivious to the real heros like Jimmy Stewart (who flew B-17's over Germany) and - newsflash - George McGovern (who flew B-24's out of Italy over the Alps into Germany). Never understood why McGovern - who had REAL military credentials was silent on that.
So sad...all those rich, Red, HollywoodJew screenwriters had to scuttle off to Paris for a couple of years and peddle their venom from there. What torment. Just to take one of your "persecuted innocents": JewBombMaker Einstein. His mistress was a Soviet plant....a problem when you are involved in "secret" weapons research. And ditto the rest of the scum you name: using freedom to destroy it. Your kind lost then, and it's going to lose again. This time permanently.
As the old Hollywood saying goes: The three biggest lies told in Hollywood are about the sex, the drugs and the McCarthy Era:)
McCarthy was right 85%+ of the time on who he identified. The Marxist anti-Freedom commies are still there, and they admit it, like Sean Penn. The fact that we elected one as president is testament to their efforts. Obama and Chavez backed the attempted marxist coup of Honduras, a peceful friendly ally.
"Anybody who criticizes Hugo Chavez should be put in jail" -- Sean Penn
You know what? It’s not funny, it’s a crying shame that the media is allowed to frame these debates with questions designed to make themselves look smart or smart alecky and the candidates who want to be leaders look foolish.
It wasn’t funny when the media gave us John McCain or a young man whose only qualification was that his father George Bush had been president, or a one-term Illinois senator whose only qualification was that his qualifications were unknown. These were not spectacles of humor; they were oligarch-controlled procedures to select puppets to do the oligarchs’ bidding. And if George Bush the Lesser and Barack Obama the Lesser Still are not puppets, then the name has no meaning.
And funny it ain’t.
It's sad that Reagan's true message has been so soiled and distorted over the years by Republicans who need a massiah on whom to blame their shithead policies.
what is the reagan era... is he really the best republican president of all time that bush and all these other blowjobs want to to be able to personify in their memoirs
.
its like either your a reagan republican, or your a isolationist... some stick in the mud... weak military bafoon... no faith in mankinds desire to speak with one voice
.
we all scream for ice cream
on/quote
BANK OF ENGLAND GOVERNOR SCHOOLS U.S. BANKERS - 1924
'Capital must protect itself in every possible way, both by combination and legislation. Debts must be collected, mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When, through process of law, the common people lose their homes, they will become more docile and more easily governed through the strong arm of the government applied by a central power of wealth under leading financiers.
.
These truths are well known among our principal men, who are now engaged in forming an imperialism to govern the world. By dividing the voter through the political party system [Republican/Democrat], we can get them to expend their energies in fighting for questions of no importance. It is thus, by discrete action, we can secure for ourselves that which has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished.'
.
Montagu Norman, Governor of The Bank Of England, addressing the United States Bankers' Association, New York, 1924.
.
off/quote
http://verbewarp.blogspot.com/2011/08/delusional-economics.html
Thanks, so true. It's all the dots are out there for all to see, the bankers schemes hide in plain sight.
Thanks, so true. It's all the dots are out there for all to see, the bankers schemes hide in plain sight.
Bruce Lipton - Biology of Perception 6 of 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=CFO741MrkIU
What a man. God, bring us another Ronnie.
We have SARAH. Next best thing.
Palin's already as oblivious as Reagan was at the end. But she's smart enough to milk her situation for as much $$$ as she can.
Another 'future leader' handpicked by the Norquist club - but that Bride of Frankenstein has broken the shackles and is running out of control.
What? You're just afraid of strong women, like Hillary?
Pathetic!
Borax-hawking fake cowboys that can memorize lines only come around once in a generation. i wouldn't wait up.
Tyler, this Reagan speech is fantastic. It is so relevant to today's situation...in fact, it is a timeless message...
Ron Paul was snubbed hard last night. However, I did like his rebuttal to Bachman re: "$2 gas". Dr Paul said he could get you a gallon a gas for a dime! A silver dime, that is! I thought that was brilliant on Dr Paul's part. The MSLSD moderators quickly moved on and didn't even discuss the currency crisis...that debate was a joke...basically it was a hair contest between Perry and Romney....I dislike Romney more and more when I watch him...
Fuck Reagan
No, FU.
And they say the LP started in 1971 ... bullshit.
I wanted to like Ronnie. And as a person, I still do. As "the great communicator" he was at his acting best. And he did manage to convince anxious Americans that it was still the 1950s when it was actually the 80s
Unfortunately he preached small government and made it bigger faster than anyone else. And under his presidency the rich started getting way richer, outsourcing US industry accelerated and we funded the Afghan Mujihadeen aka Al Qaeda. As he was leaving, the S&L crisis and real esate bust, a pre-figurement of today's banking/real estate crisis, started hitting its stride.
I'll un-confuse you: Bush 41's real First Term was RR's "second": VP Bush, corporate/CIA gang shoved an exhausted Reagan aside, 1984-88...and that's when we got disasters like legalization of illegals, Iran-Contra, and the first of the free trade sell-outs. What I most blame RR for: bringing the Bush clan back into American politics.
Luv ya CE, but Blacks and poor people did are better under Reagan than Carter and previous adminstrations. Just like they are failing and doing poorly under Obama. The rich also started paying far greater % of the tax revenues with the lower rates, lessening the burden on the poor and middle class. The shit works.
"We have to pass the Bill so we can find out what's in it"....can you believe that someone would say such a f#$king thing????
Yes.
The fact she will be re-elected is the tragedy. And that after securing so many Obamacare waivers for her favorites.
I am promoting my site. Funny....it's not monetized.
I kill it.
http://tradeonfire.blogspot.com/
if you did what you say you did and made all that money in 2011, then you can afford to buy my book!...
Its just a history romp with a parallel drawn between then and now...
http://www.falakpema.com/buythebook.html
Won't cost you much of your gains. The price of a good glass of wine!
I remember old Ron blaming cows for acid rain. Yes, times haven't changed a bit.
this was a great thread of conversation !! i luv it when TYLER / ZEROHEDGE posts historical anything ...... historical charts, historical writings, historical videos ...... it's good to remember ; i was happy tonight watching the YOUTUBE clips & reading all the great comments.
RR despised George Bush; was amazed to find Republican Committee had selected him as running mate...
Reagan was never the same after Bush family friend Hinckley shot him.
McCarthy only identified the tip of the iceberg. He was maligned but not incorrect.
How could we have saved the Nation from John Dewey socialist educational dogma/doctrine, the intelligentsia attack on Christianity, monetary degradation, wars we had no business entering, police actions, deficit spending, judicial legislation, bureaucrat codes and a Legal System that perverted The Constitution and removed any linkage to the principles of Magna Carta which had been the foundation of Western Civilization jurisprudence.
It has been a deliberate and concerted effort to plunder, loot, ruin, and generally scuttle the United States of America; primarily enabled by bought-off politicians.
The system is like a fixed roulette wheel, or deck of marked cards.
Leonard Cohen knew.
This election don't mean shit.
Have been re-watching Kris Kristofferson in Amerika, the mini-series. The theme there is apropos and just glares at you 30yrs later. Nobody gives a damn beyond what they can game out of the system, and fuck their children and grandchildren with the mess created by mostly "the greatest generation"...
"Reagan was never the same after Bush family friend Hinckley shot him. "
Was the old Bush aledgedly involved?
Like Johnson was aledgedly involved in JFK's assassination...?
Like J Edgar Hoover was a transvestite.....?
Many will forget, or never knew, that Speaker of the House, Tip O'Neil challenged Pres. Reagan by claiming the game Reagan thought he was playing was Softball, not Hardball, and that Reagan would learn soon enough to OBEY his betters, i.e., the Elites, and to stop 'pandering' to the common 'working man' by promising them a cut in their Federal income taxes. Long story short, Reagan made the pitch and delivered his fastball to congress. The resulting hole it blew in the Speakers glove was awesome and Reagan won. The cut in Federal income taxes gave a working man like myself a bit more money to pay the bills and also to 10's of millions of working men and women. The result? We dug our way out of a Depression and started to rebuild our lives.
A curse came along with congress' promise to vote Reagan's way by securing his agreement to allow them to sharply increase deficit spending in exchange for their votes for the tax cuts. Big mistake.
"Reagan would learn soon enough to OBEY his betters, i.e., the Elites"
Who are "the elites"?
Why don't we publicize a list of all their names - then every slave citizen can start boycotting them and their enterprise or assassinate them, each according to his own temper - as they have boycotted or assassinated the US masses and anyone who stood in their way.
pitch forks? we dont need no stinking pitch forks! the 'elites' are already eating each other. theyre collaspsing the system just fine,
They may destroy "the system" - but they won't destroy themselves - on the contrary, they are leverage and shifting their assets among asset classes, increasing their wealth at every swap - and - they hold ever more of the world's real assets every day.
In other words - they must be eliminated IF the world, masses, individuals are to be free of their tyrany.
The French revolution was a real revolution. The US revolution... well, look around.
"Who are "the elites"? Why don't we publicize a list of all their names....they have boycotted or assassinated the US masses and anyone who stood in their way."
Are you attempting to be prophetic?
Welll... if it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy I'ld be quite happy - and most certainly and independently of any potential prohecy I have a constant itch in my gut and my trigger finger to eliminate the scum of the earth... the elite and their henchmen.... I'm waitin' an baitin'... ready to strike..... when and if the moment arises of critical mass willing to act for freedom...
By negotiated agreement, Reagan was supposed to get 3:1 spending cuts for every dollar he agreed to raise in taxes from the democratic controlled congress. The Dems lied and went back on the deal after the raise in taxes was signed into law.
"They lied to me!" -- Ronald Reagan
lol, reagan a 'real leader'?
WTFLMFAO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTcL6Xc_eMM
da ObamaNation....a REAL Leader??????????
lol @ your partisan politics?!
they are both puppets just like every president before them since JFK?!
Let's beat up the Republicans for the sake of beating up the Republicans. (Bad Hate)
As to the loathing part, yes they loath socialism/obamaism/marxism. You can say the Republican candidates (most of them) hate socialism/obamaism/marxism. But it's the healthy Wieselian type of hate. (Good Hate)
Or to look at it from the half full glass perspective, they love the freedom and individual liberty that the individual enjoys in the US and they view the intentions of the founding fathers set out in our Consitution as timeless and worth fighting for. (Good Love).
And to finish the diagram, defining Bad Love: The love that the Socialist/Obamaist/Marxist has for other peoples money and wealth.
Soviets run our education system.
Thanks to Ronald Reagan
Copy of Agreement between United States (President Reagan) and the Soviet Union (President Gorbachev) related to many fields of endeavor, but with special reference to merger of U.S.A. and Soviet (Russian) education systems.
http://www.americandeception.com/ ... click education
Rick Perry's B.S. smells as bad as the perfume on a cheap whore!
"Bill Clinton's wife's B.S. smells as bad as the perfume on a cheap whore!
There, fixed that for ya!!!
What is most eerie is that the adverse conditions described by Reagan then are almost identically comparable to those in our current deplorable state, nearly half a century later.
Sure but they were still small enough problems to be fixable back then. I think it's more accurate to say that the type of liberal programs and follies that Reagan highlights in these clips -mere embryos here- have since grown into leviathans of entire federal agencies, entitlements and permanent baseline components of the government budget. That's eerie.
This was right before Reagan's champ got a big thumbs down and Johnson's Great Society kicked into high gear (as well as his expensive war).
What?
As was intended, and designed, the Grand Ol' USofA isn't about leader worship.
Not even close.
...and even still the very first president became the greatest popular object (undesiring perhaps) of just that. The Constitution may be a blueprint for a small-government commercial republic that minds it's own business but the fact is Americans of all stripes have always loved their hero leaders.
Christ, we're all tuning in every day to see what a fictional polemic who looks like Brad Pitt has to say...
Voting: how quaint.
Inagurating a King/Queen, how quaint.
Paul and Kardashian 2012!
Think about it for a second. Dr. Paul can grab the logical voters while choosing a random Kardashian who hasn't been given a reality show yet would let the other 90% of the population know that there is an election coming up next year. Win, Win!
Check out this poll:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/07/7658608-who-do-you-think...
Ron Paul wins by a 2:1 margin, but despicable MSNBC makes Romney's green results line almost as long as Pauls, giving the false impression they were neck-and-neck. Shame on MSNBC !
Three shames: First, for ignoring Paul during the debate. Second, for asking him idiotic questions, and third, for this misleading display of poll results.
I was a huge Reagan supporter while he was President and thought he did no wrong. As the years have passed, the fact that he selected King George I to be his Vice President and thereby subjecting this country to 23 years of this Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, BS has dimmed a lot of the luster Reagan once had for me.
There is one idea in that speech where I'm sure Reagan is wrong. When he says that the men who died in WWII didn't die in vain, he is incorrect. Every person who has suffered, been wounded, maimed, or killed, in any war this country has been involved in, including the Revolutionary war did so in vain. When these sold out, whorish politicians give everything to their masters, the Wall street financiers and the international corporate fascists, otherwise known as the British empire, it's all been in vain.
Every generation must fight for liberty. Those men did, and now we must.
That war never ends. One generation hands the duty to the next.
We must not fail the future.
Hacksaw, you wrote "There is one idea in that speech where I'm sure Reagan is wrong. When he says that the men who died in WWII didn't die in vain, he is incorrect."
I counter there is a good reason for fighting oppressive, occult regimes, like the Nazi regime that overcame the German people in the 1930's and it is this, would you allow your sons and daughters to become oppressed by evil men? No, I do not think you want that future to befall your family. So, you must make a stand and fight against killing the citizens of your own country, even if you disagree with their political thought, religion or otherwise. Unfortunately, too few Germans citizens stood up to the Nazi regime and the entire world suffered as a result.
"Every person who has suffered, been wounded, maimed, or killed, in any war this country has been involved in, including the Revolutionary war did so in vain." Not really, consider the alternative: enslavement of the citizens of good counties leads to enormous hardships. Governments who are allowed to force their 'lower-class' citizens into hunger, starvation, disease and death are based on the occult. Would you want to see your loved ones suffer in that way? No, you would not.
The truth is this: men and women who died in WWII did not die in vain. They died, sure enough, but their families were given the unalienable right to live free of tyranny of an occult regime who envisioned enslavement of the rest of humanity to serve them for all eternity.
More softballs, more rhetoric. No discussion of the kleptofraudtocracy. Props to Ron Paul
for his silver dime comment and trying to interject sound money concepts. The MS moderators
sucked and tried to ignore and stifle him. Total posturing for the two status quo candidates.
Same as it ever was.
Yep, pretty much the standard political debate. I particularly liked when Romney followed Perry on Social Security and talked about how it is important to American society, that it doesn't need to be abolished it just needs to be fixed, and that when he becomes president he will fix Social Security. The world class moderators thought that it wasn't important enough to actually follow up by asking "how?" because as we all know details of a plan are completely irrelevant. It is empty rhetoric that gets things fixed. Obviously, given the time constraint, they could not possibly ask an idiotic question like that when they needed to move on to more pressing issues like gay marriage and abortion- y'know - the important stuff that is affecting this country.
Comments by the brilliant about Reagan while they were wetting their diapers should be ignored. They are only repeating someone else's words The Democrats fall back saying it was Gorbachev and not Reagan's policies that ended the Cold War ignore the statements of those in Russia and Eastern Europe at the time of the collapse. Gorby was and is a dedicated communist that has no use for any form of Democrarcy. The fact that Democrats wish to pump up a thug and not a US elected President, may be justification for them all to be called thuggish communists. I guess that is where we are today.
Gorbachev slunk back to the old Soviet Union in a state of shame after Pres Reagan rejected the Elite's plan and walked out of the summit in Iceland. The Elite's plan was designed to allow the Soviets more time to continue and build-up their nuclear capability and attempt to 'catch-up' to America's military capacity with regard to nuclear weapons. The problem Pres. Reagan did not envision was this, he had made an agreement to congress that in exchange for Fed income tax cuts for the WORKING Americans to receive an income tax cut, he agreed to an increase in the deficit, by way of increased military and social spending programs. Of course other problems cropped up and there should be no doubt in anyone's mind that Pres Regan was ill-advised to follow the Elite's strategy.
Carls,
Agreed. The Woodheads are running wild on this thread. And the clutter monkeys, too...posting away about this or that...layering in one long perpetual off topic and mindless thread.
Lots of regurgitation of the usual Reagan criticisms...without thought...and posters prattling on without listening to the speech, obviously. The IQ factor in the comment section of this blog is definitely in decline. Not sure if the problem is fluoride poisoning...or more of the China thing.
It is pretty pathetic, as if you listen to the speech, you hear something that has not been heard in this country for decades now.
dare i say TD may be seeing the light here ...
So interesting. It was a speech to make people think for sure.
Based on that speech, I would say I am impressed with how long they were able to kick the can. The invention of the computer probably helped to kick the can this far.
I don't want to vote for Ron Paul for POTUS. I want Paul to be Treasury Secretary. But if the jackasses at the RNC are gonna shovel bullshit...
I'm becoming dismayed with those who were fighting the good fight. They are buying the "New Boss."
Lt. Col. West. Calling West. I have a dream. Unfortunately I wake up to a nightmare. Hell. At least I witness it from paradise. Good luck Mainlanders.
So, so you think you can tell
Heaven from Hell,
Blue skies from pain
Can you tell a green field
From a cold steal rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?
Did they get you to trade
Your heroes for ghost?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Did you exchange
A walk on part in the war,
For a lead role in a cage?...
- Pink Floyd, Wish You Were Here
Pink Floyd understood the pitfalls of distraction. We indeed allowed the lines between heaven and hell to become blurred. In so doing, we traded our hero's for ghost.
'Our leadership' has abdicated its moral imperative producing foreign and domestic policies that are contrary to reason and self-defeating. They have failed to uphold the constitution and have broken the public trust. Though our freedoms are under siege and way of life threatened, the power rests with the consent of the people.
The face of America is YOU. Our country's laws, our freedoms, our humanity rests in the hands of each of us. Our imperative for building a more just and humane world demands we do not exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage.
It is our birthright that each American physically stand against Tyranny and together "We The People" can secure a government of the people, by the people and for the people!
THE FOUNDING FATHERS: MYTH ASIDE, THIS IS A VISION GONE WRONG - PART TWO
Wow. Just swap vietnam for iraq/libya/afghanistan etal and trot that out. So relevant
Word words. Words word words. Word words words word, word words, words word word words words.
I watched President Reagan's talks if you will and President Obama's. Although President Obama is a far better orator, President Reagan talked about stuff he could actually do, whereas President Obama said whatever he thought you would like and it didn't actually matter weather the content had anything to do with reality.
To be fair I would bet other than Ron Paul most every other candidate on the national stage does the same thing.
Truth, honesty, "HAH" not a chance. However some mighty fine words. I suspect this is not limited to the incumbent or to a particular party in this modern day and age of mufti-trillion dollar budgets.
Fact is .gov is so big who would or could know.
Remarkably neat trick actually, make your waste and ineptitude so large that no can actually comprehend what you have done.
Happened here in Canada, this Minister or (that for the US that would be Secretary) or some such functionary would tender a contract of say 5 million to skim 50,000 to a half a million for whatever noble purpose they deemed appropriate. typically re-election.
MSNBC Vomit
flushing America down the toilet one zombie mind at a time
Nice speech, shame when he got in he continually spent more than the government collected and made massive deficits the norm, makes me suspicious of Ron Paul and what he'll do when he gets in
Wow. Great thread praising St. Ronnie. Makes me want to go out and name a few hundred MORE roads and buildings after him. It's sad he's gone, but hey, at least we have this massive national debt to remember him by. Hate to break it to you: Reagan may have had alzheimers, but I don't. I remember very well what type of President he was. Save the revisionist nonsense for the rubes. Uh ... and when exactly did ZeroHedge become RedState?
The only two things you need to know about Ronnie Raygun: Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, the principle that if you use the FCC, you present both sides of the story and devote equal time to both sides. Raygun and Roger Ailes did away with the doctrine, so both are extremely unprincipled. The birth certificate nonsense would have never gotten off the ground, Today we have half of the United States, one entire Republican political party, who cannot come up with jacksh*t that will stand up in a court of law regarding the birth certificate. Consider the brouhaha about the mosque in New York City. The funding for the mosque turned out to be coming from Faux News itself, Rupert Murdoch's butt f*cking business partner Alwaleed bin Talal.It took Jon Stewart nine minutes to make the revelation.
Republican tax cuts do not work to create jobs in the US. Republicans have shot themselves in the cowboy boot. For the first time in US television campaign ad history, I think you'll see one set of tee vee ads running by Repubicans, but you'll see Republican candidates getting confronted and called liars to their face over US jobs going offshore and not being replaced.
Did it ever occur to you that, even with stretching the passing of gas into protected speech, if the government still controlls where and when you can speak you really don't have Freedom of Speech? It seems you want what our Overlords want - government to be the official arbitrator as to what speech is acceptable and what isn't. No wonder you dislike Reagan.
Nailed it in one! LOL!
The Reagan watch, annualized GDP averaged over 3.2 % , isn't this the kind of growth in the American economy that the mighty know it all economic doctors are ordering today? you may not have a like of love for the guy, but he sure would have a cure for what is ailing us today because he understood what the problem really was. Tax Cuts for all and Revenues doubled into the treasury and his policies encouraged the private sector so well that his policies are responsible for creating over 20 million jobs. His policies were labeled "trickle down" by the progressive liberal socialists bubbleheads, an economic title that will live in infamy. Today we have something called "nickel down" throw a nickel on the drum, save another homeless bum. These people should all be tarred and feathered and run out of town now!
If you were wearing diapers or just a twinkle in your fathers eye in the 1980's and don't have something good to post about the Reagan wealth and prosperity, just shut your mind and find something else for your hands and fingers to work on.
Thank ZH for this important posting. Everyone should try to make this posting and these speeches go viral.
Unfortunately its a time for boozing, is the general sentiment in "deep down below" USA. Not a time for choosing; as they are beyond understanding what the real choices are.
The whole spiel in this speech concerning world power play, the choice between peace and war with communism, is... I, like BArry G, don't believe in appeasement...."better red than dead"...When you know the sequel that LBJ unleashed it just shows that RR was a great talker but his message had no relevance to US foreign policy, because LBJ DID what he,RR, was promoting in his speech!
On the domestic front his analysis on the Democratic government spending binge was spot on...
to borrow from Tom Waits regarding a boss he once knew; "He's a mental midget with the IQ of a fencepost". Reagan was a simpleton, look at how many people believed one of the worst actors in history? We are one dull bunch of apes.
That debate was so hilarious in the fact that they can only speak in bullshit, with no specifics. None of their 'logic' works. The crowd was something out of 1984 clapping at all the bullshit that doesn't matter.
They cheered for someone who had put to death two hundred and some odd people to death.....but no one said anything about AT LEAST the one who he 'murdered' because he was innocent, and listened to the 'junk science' to convict him. But hey, what a little truth. Gov. Perry signed off on the murder of innoncent constiutient...and he didn't care...even if the 'doubt' was obvious and strong.
Of course the 'signing statements' that somehow the patriotic ones love is another way where those republicans were completely full of shit.
There were so many idiotic statements that drew thunderous applause I can say with certainty that the majority of those in that room were complete and utter morons.
Even Ron Paul made a fool of himself letting some of his crack pot ways out of his mouth.
Sure Ron has some good ideas, and we know he'd have the conviction to do them. But with those good things, you get a whole bag of crazy trash, that at least he doesn't seem set on doing things overnight...I'll give him that. While the drug companies do indeed lobby for drug safety and that needs to be tightened down, air traffic control is just fine the way it is, once it's upgraded of course.
Plus they are ALL, that is EVERYONE of them...a monetarist. Meaning that which is their base on economics, money, etc...is well off. They follow a structure that was set up to maintain the rich, to maintain the status quo...not actually benefit whoever in a society deserves to benefit.
Only the American Credit System does that.
Not the monarchy backed Keynesian or Austrian MONETARISM.
Glass-Steagall
The state run media apparatchik is trying to hide Ron Paul, but the people are not falling for it: ron paul leading this poll of who won last nights debate with 50%+ next highest 17%
VOTE RON PAUL, TELL SOMEONE ABOUT HIM, FORWARD YOUR FAVORITE VIDEO OF HIM TO SOMEONE, POST SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON YOUR FACEBOOK, SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS.
LINK:
http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/ron-paul-takes-first-in-debate-po...
retiring soldiers on the streets of the republic with no cause, no job and no gun get irritated pretty fast.
THE SPEECH: We must spend money to beautify schools... INTERPRETATION: It more important to satiate the needs of cronyism then to make sure those that are struggling have food to eat due to inflation to bail out scumbags
THE SPEECH: I want the next generation of manufacturing will take place HERE in America... INTERPRETATION: If GM pays you 70.00 an hour to do the same thing Korea or China does for 10.00 it cant happen.. UNLESS.. we are taking a 7 to 1 standard of living CUT. Get ready for the great sucking sound people... its your standard of living falling in the toilet.
THE SPEECH: We are going to modify loans for those who cant afford the higher rate... INTERPRETATION: Reward people for making a bad decision on buying a home they cant afford while asking those who are struggling (even though they didnt make that bet) to foot the bill with higher taxes to pay for it... Yes its Xanadu without Olivia Newton John
THE SPEECH: Using the example of the trans-continentail railroad as what made us great.... INTERPRETATION: Bad example.. it was slave labor and people who were abused or died (Also created the wonderful racist word "chinks" for the the chinese / japanese at the time) Perhaps, Obama is not familiar with the word Slavery
THE SPEECH: ALL of us will have to step up INTERPRETATION" Middle class taxes go up Nov 8th 2012 THE SPEECH: Im going to make "modest" (cough) changes to medicare & Medicade because we cant afford not too... INTERPRETATION: I recall Paul Ryan pushing an old lady off a cliff when he sad that.. So, is this new plan akin to sticking a little old lady's face in a wood chipper or does the same cliff metaphor still apply?
THE SPEECH: Simple math says we can Pay down the debt, give people more benefits, and not increase taxes on the middle class... INTERPRETATION: For my next trick I will pull a rabbit out of my arse...
THE SPEECH: We need to have millionaires and billionaires pay their fair share.. INTERPRETATION: My buddy, Jeff Immelt, from GE that sits on my board and paid $0.00 in taxes will continue to do so. Oh Middle class, Im comin for ya...
But Xanadu without Olivia Newton John still leaves you with ELO (and Gene Kelly)
Your cheap bridal gowns large day is bridesmaid dress coming wedding dresses under $200 up and yoen so discount wedding dressesanxio it really is all bridesmaid waer you have ba line wedding dresses result of the cheap wedding dresses calendar year, it canwedding dresses under 100 be promed up cheap wedding dresses .
ghd mk4 black esta ghd iv sección ghd hair straightener delete vestido de una ghd blue serenity pieza roto campo delaware las pink ghd flores, el sistema Ghd hair straightener cual teje 100%,usos ghd straighteners durante línea delaware las ligas andel cheap ghd outlet dise?o, ghd gold son ghd iv salon styler el verano están poniendo durante chicago ghd mk4 iv gold guarnición superior, también agregan un trabajo ghd mk4 pink hecho ghd pure white the mano delaware l . a ghd pure black . frontera para bordar el dise?respiración alta y simply green envy ghd los angeles belleza andel tiempo o van con el GHD MK4 Gold éxito de las condiciones de las enderezadoras del pelo del good ghd rare styler hair days delete desafío ghd blue a abultar agradable organización concedida ghd mk4 pink cual articula ampliamente venir ghd precious por la novela cual paga any clientes ghd precious pack así como el ahorro de chicago vuelta true ghd green ampliamente the ghd mk4 los angeles articulación. ghd purple straighteners manija andel tenis delete escritorio de oficina ghd pink , ghd planchas tan bien ghd kiss debe una granGHD IV Styling Set comprensión signifiant versiones ghd mk4 . El lado ghd australia Simply no apenas los arranques Ghd australia nuevos de antedicho purple ghd está llegando the ser así difícil, la venta ghd iv shedd ugg boots, ghd pink limited edition signifiant perdedores. El propósito primary de agencias derechas ghd purple sería lazo demostrado en público a lo largo de las ghd hair australia .
shilushuo yanshab qiangda maliyan shuochuko xinxiana gdetasd ppasb ghdoutlet Pleaser
accounti coking saving ghdaus kemen sming jiang xingfu scarsd qfajian yizaosa
Thanks for the information. This is very useful to me. I waited for another article. Samsung Galaxy Harga Nokia Asha Berita Terkini Mobile Prices
is cheap party dresses required to frame a structure of dress prior to likely to buy it. Increased neckline could be princess wedding dresses the most significant characteristic within the modest wedding dresses. Not like strapless gowns, these gowns are made up with complete sleeves that run till arm. This by mother of the bride dresses no way tends to make the bride less elegant
mplicity cheaply wedding dresses could be the most significant point they should wedding dresses really bear in mind.Secondly, the size princess wedding dresses plays also a vital part. Prom 2012 wedding dresses for plus dimension girls are in many sizes. In case you still can't come across your excellent prom dresses,short wedding dresses you m