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Timelapse Video Of A 30 Story Chinese Hotel Completed In 15 Days

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While we have seen these videos in the past they never cease to amaze, and confirm that when it comes to using raw materials to put together end products that absolutely nobody will likely ever want, the Chinese are second to none. We would love to juxtapose this video with a 'timelapse' of the the 10 years it will take New York construction workers to complete the Second Avenue subway.

About this video:

What can you accomplish in 360 hours?

 

The Chinese sustainable building company, Broad Group, has yet attempted another impossible feat, building a 30-story tall hotel prototype in 360 hours, after building a 15-story building in a week earlier in 2011.

 

You may ask why in a hurry, and is it safe? The statistics in the video an put you in good faith. Prefabricated modular buildings has many advantages over conventional buildings.

 

Higher precision in fabrication (+/- 0.2mm).
More coordinated on-site construction management.
Shorter construction time span.
Lower construction waste.
Also many other health and energy features are included in Broad Sustainable Buildings (BSB)

 

The building was built over last Christmas time and finished before New Years Eve of 2012.

h/t Clavin

 

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Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:15 | 2053302 trav7777
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no thanks, even comped

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:33 | 2053378 I think I need ...
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chinese new year jan 23rd,,,,,,,,chinese stock market is bottoming,,,,,,gold revaluation

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:03 | 2053455 The Big Ching-aso
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Man who erect too fast satisfy woman last.

Neoconfucius

 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:28 | 2053516 Natural Man
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ARRRRRGH FALLING DOWN!!!!!!!

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:41 | 2053534 Harlequin001
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Something that has always puzzled me, how does the crane go up on its own?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 02:24 | 2053582 Harbanger
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They Jack up the crane from it's top tier , the crane then lifts another segment and it's slid between the jacks. 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 02:29 | 2053589 dlmaniac
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With this kinda efficiency who would not want to move factories over there?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 03:02 | 2053623 Harlequin001
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So they detach the top?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 03:20 | 2053640 Harbanger
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The (4) jacks lift the crane and are strong enough for the crane to function normally as if it were still bolted to it's support frame.  The next segment is attached and so on.  That's how I built the pyramids :) without help from aliens.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 06:51 | 2053767 Oh regional Indian
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in haste, the spirit wearies. no good comes out of haste or a weary spirit.

Slow down, we move too fast....

ori

/wisdom-for-warriors-8/

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 08:01 | 2053835 Gohn Galt
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Good idea, we could build these overnight.  We'll call them liberation housing for the workers.  Will protect them by keeping them in safety zones and have community get togethers where workers will smile, look happy and share their stories of increasing happiness and the joys of serving.  Throw in the China reference and I bet we could have contract signed this week, building done the week after and full occupancy on the books.

 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 12:07 | 2054692 JW n FL
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm7rOKT151Y

Vast new cities are being built across China at a rate of ten a year, but they remain almost completely uninhabited ghost towns. Racing to stay ahead of the world economy, is the superpower about to implode?
"There are around 64 million empty apartments in China," claims analyst Gillem Tulloch. It's all part of the Chinese government's efforts to keep its economy booming and there are plenty of people who would love to move in, but the properties are priced out of the market. It's after 2pm and in the new city of Dongguan shop owner Tian Yu Gao is yet to serve a single customer. "It's a bit boring," he sighs. His open shop is a rare sight in the Great Mall: once heralded by the New York Times as proof of China's astonishing consumer culture, today it is an eerie vista of emptiness. "It can't stay this way," insists Tulloch, "when the bubble bursts, it will impoverish vast numbers of people".

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 12:10 | 2054699 JW n FL
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLwVycO7V-k&feature=related

China's juggernaut economy is the envy of the world, but at what cost to the country's people and environment?

 

if you think Mexico is bad.. as far as not drinking the water.. China is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! Worse!

dont breath!

dont touch anything without Gloves..

dont go out without a hazmat suit on!

Wed, 07/25/2012 - 05:06 | 2648259 mediaprizm
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Almost everything, I mean dealing with literary works are influenced by this work. Because this work is a work of maestro.
Hotel Designers | Restaurant Designers

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 11:11 | 2054370 Harlequin001
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That is fucking ingenious. Thanks...

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 00:41 | 2430397 jaffa
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Larger hotels may operate with an extensive management structure consisting of a General Manager which serves as the head executive, department heads that oversee various departments, middle managers, administrative staff, and line level supervisors. Degree programs such as hospitality management studies, a business degree, and certification programs prepare hotel managers for industry practice. Thanks.
Regards,
Houston fun restaurant

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 02:31 | 2053595 old naughty
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Naturally, you mean peter out...

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 06:52 | 2053768 Oh regional Indian
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Aha ON, now I see why you got your handle... :-)

ori

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 08:06 | 2053841 LeBalance
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more apropos as young naughty, old naughty would be yucking it up only about Power and Ruling.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 03:35 | 2053646 The Big Ching-aso
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Natural Man's avatar looks like someone who has a hand firmly on the controls.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 09:54 | 2054043 Ruffcut
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Are they calling it the LEGO hotel?

Alot of prebuilt modular sections that told weeks to build. OOPS, I forgot to put in stairs and an elevator.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 11:49 | 2054557 RockyRacoon
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Why is the time it takes to manufacture the "modules" not included in the elapsed time to build?  Why don't they just put people (guests) into the hotel module and count the building as "Open for Business" with the first floor set in place?  Add a couple of porta-potties for convenience, of course.

Thanks for the video post of the way the cranes are elevated.     What do they do with the left-overs (the cantilevered stuff) at the top of the building when it's done?  Just wondering.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 13:07 | 2054912 collon88
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Old architects never die, they just lose their erections.

Neoconfucius Jr.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:11 | 2053478 flacon
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Let's hope for a revaluation, and this time let's not go from like $22 to $35. Let's be realistic - $40,000 should be close to being adequate to continue the ponzi, but I would be happy with $50,000. You gotta take what you can get in this cold world. 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:43 | 2053538 Harlequin001
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Not until we have a derivatives fail will we see those kind of revaluations, but I see where you're coming from...

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 02:45 | 2053607 The_Dude
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Nothing new...I'll build you a modular home in a day....

 

http://www.modularhomesnetwork.com/

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:18 | 2053497 Urban Roman
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It's ...

It's full of melamine!

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 02:42 | 2053602 The_Dude
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Nothing new...I'll build you a house in a day....

 

http://www.modularhomesnetwork.com/

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 07:50 | 2053815 Taint Boil
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Yeah, but it broke in six months and we had to take it back to K-Mart.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 08:21 | 2053858 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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The IRONY here?

China has more or less done the Devil's dirty work with one thing in mind, creating jobs for its huge agrarian population. The cost of the labor force hurled into the fray has been somewhat akin to "slave" or "free" depending on what side of the fence you view it from. Apple makes iPad in Shanghai, workers cost zip, high value added is in design and a developed world marketplace which can afford it, Apple arbs tax regulations and keeps cash stashed offshore, US Government actually pays for your iPad since the "99%" are floundering financially and were hoodwinked by the loan sharks (ahem) I mean banks into borrowing / spending away their futures, now that future burden will circle back to kids and grand kids etc., but the migrant worker in Shanghai is still working for free from "our" perspective ... wash, rinse, repeat. Tis a grand game really. All those $ in foreign reserves are so much confetti really. But the objective was achieved, not a profit but JOBS.

But ... WAIT !

This building is pre-fabbed in what appears to be a Great Wall of China - Esque factory space, which then enables the lego like speed and perfection of assembly, Henry Ford bless you.  But HOW MANY GUYS did you see working?

As China enables greater technological innovation and production efficiencies, WHERE DO THE WORKERS THEN WORK?

You don't need them. Or not many of them. Their jobs have been arbed away by production efficiencies. Now you have a 30 story building that no one needs created in record time, but the workers with no more jobs can't ascend the middle class ladder to stay there. It's a recursive process.

Hmmm.

 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 09:08 | 2053926 Another Texan
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Ahhh, your intelligent beyond your years. Curse innovation and efficiency. As someone who is in the commercial construction field, if this is legit, this is wild. I will be doing some research into this. tard.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 13:02 | 2054902 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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I was struck by the efficiencies and wondered to myself whether this was a practical alternative in the US.

You would obviously have more knowledge about that and it would be interesting to see what you find upon further inquiry.

My point was not about another possibly crappy building going up, nor about the wonder of the process itself and its potential benefits, but that China may be leap frogging its own population as it marries technological innovation to the labor force and theu leaves the labor force behind. You simply do not need too many workers to put up this type of building. It's not too long ago that they were using bamboo scaffolding. Now?

China can either increase exports, where global aggregate demand is not what it once was given the bursting of a financial bubble and the bill for the bursting now firmly plastered in government paper, or they can increase domestic consumption, but if they use real estate and construction as the primary vehicle to drive domestic consumption, much as it has been in the US for years, the farmer in the field is not going to get to wear a hard hat when the buildings are preassembled on a factory line and simply plugged together on site. Jobs will be cannabalized in China faster than they can be created.

Growth would then call for another solution. A solution of which, I have not a clue.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 09:39 | 2053991 pan-the-ist
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Exactly, the job of the modern government seems to be to make the population chase it's tail.  The smart ones know this and profit.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 11:11 | 2054369 bahaar
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The idea is to move all the wealth into the pockets of the select few.  Be it American entrapreuners or Chinese CEOs.  China (and India) provided jobs for it's millions because people's labor (and countries' environment) is the only thing their elite class could exploit.  Unlike Africa or Middle East-- lands which are full of natural resources.  In the end the masses everywhere lose. 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 11:11 | 2054371 bahaar
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The idea is to move all the wealth into the pockets of the select few.  Be it American entrapreuners or Chinese CEOs.  China (and India) provided jobs for it's millions because people's labor (and countries' environment) is the only thing their elite class could exploit.  Unlike Africa or Middle East-- lands which are full of natural resources.  In the end the masses everywhere lose. 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 08:32 | 2053879 vato poco
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Hmm. Well, let's see: Cheapest possible (possibly toxic, but it won't show up for 6 months so it's cool) bldg materials, hollowed-out 24" main support columns, cheapest possible labor means they're guessing as they go during installation, (especially minor systems like electrical and plumbing: everyone knows that shit's really easy), QC inspection ignored because it costs too much, safety/fire options halfassed or ignored, (costs too much), unskilled labor cuts even more corners than usual because they're going balls to the wall, aaaannnnnnd govt/engineering inspectors and auditors get bribed to see nothing. Wonder if they may have changed architectural/engineering specs on the fly (without mentioning it to anybody) to save a yuan or 2? They wouldn't do that, would they?

What could possibly go wrong? Say, apropos of nothing, does China ever have earthquakes?

The Big Dig took forever, had "inspectors" out the ass, and it's disintegrating before them damn yankees' eyes. Wonder how Deathtrap Towers will fare?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 09:36 | 2053978 Blankman
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Are you talking about Chicago or China?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 10:10 | 2054101 mr1963
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I see your points, but not certain. A lot of connections for electrical etc. can be made on site and pre-engineered, and based on the tolerances they say they get through the manufacturing process, they could pull it off. However, it won't be there in 100 years like some of these old buildings around Chicago.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 10:24 | 2054154 homer8043
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The video looked and sounded really good. I assure you this building will under perform and have issues, if it isn't a total disaster.

One, the ten time purer air is silly. It may not be with China's level of air pollution but I'll continue. The air filtering they describe is typically used for light medical a lab applications. They are wasting energy with so much air filtration.

Second, they are way beyond the economic point of diminishing returns on insulation. Tell that to anyone designing super green buildings. Their features wouldn't fly in most buildings in the US because they are too expensive. In China, I can only speculate they could be less expensive due to quality.

Third, there's no way the US could get a building up that quick. Getting US construction workers to work 24/7 for 15 days would be prohibitively expensive, especially to get the guys on site that know what they are doing.

Fourth, the modularity and standardization actually is a good idea. It gets used rarely but hardly ever flys in the US due to everyone wanting their own features and specialization.

I guess I had a point but it became a few disjointed ideas.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 10:49 | 2054273 Willzyx
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The 10x cleaner air claim may just be valid, given the high level of air pollution in 2nd and 3rd tier Chinese cities.  Coal is mined in the region, and Changsha is the center of China's aluminum industry.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:15 | 2053304 ACP
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And how long before it collapses?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:27 | 2053354 tmosley
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Just after the demolition charges are triggered.

Give it a couple of weeks.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:32 | 2053360 ACP
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Who called Greenspan???

Build it, blow it up, then build it again. It's a real economy. An economy I want to be remembered by.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:15 | 2053489 Manthong
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Actually, that's Krugmanian economics.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 09:42 | 2054003 pan-the-ist
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What bothers me about your comment is that you seem to be defending greenspan.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:10 | 2053474 boiltherich
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It will collapse as soon as some Islamic nutjob decides China is the bad guy.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 07:17 | 2053790 General Decline
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By "Islamic nut job" do you mean the CIA and Mossad?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 04:09 | 2053660 _ConanTheLibert...
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They even thought about that. It collapses in record time. So they can quickly build another one. Brilliant huh! ;-)

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:16 | 2053310 Jim in MN
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IT'S A TRAP!

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:52 | 2053429 prains
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360 hours to erect, 360 000 hours to fab and coordinate in the shop = same time to build just in two different places = so now the general contractor has to carry the cost of two locations, the permanent in situ fab shop and the cost of erection. said the bishop to his wife

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:13 | 2053485 flacon
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Here in Canada where I live they have taken two years to build a road near my house and about 1.5 years to construct an old folks home. Neither the road nor the building are complete yet. 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:24 | 2053503 prains
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Asphalt production is seasonal flacon and the plants producing it shut down in November so any road work beyond bag and shovel cannot be completed between the months of November and April leaving the window of opportunity

very tight. Also if the road is low lying and had to be engineered to compaction they typically let the whore of frost do its job for awhile to aid in density tests later. Saves having to rebuild the entire road in 5 years when it slumps into the ditch because they rushed compaction. Everything is not a cheeseburger my friend. As for the old folks home, meh.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:46 | 2053543 Harlequin001
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It's a bit like my bragging I can build a car in 10 seconds. You deliver me the BMW, I fit the rear brake light bulbs et voila, it's finished.

Now can I make a video too?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 02:16 | 2053572 DaBernank
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Technically, they've been working on the Second Ave Subway since 1929, so, completion in 90 years is more accurate.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 11:12 | 2054375 Harlequin001
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So, a bit like waiting for a London bus then?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 05:04 | 2053707 Urban Redneck
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My friends offer a 10-yr warranty on any road built with their products, and can demonstrate 20-40% cost davings.  Sounds like the Canadians have either a competence or a corruption problem.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 17:02 | 2055993 Hicham
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What sort of climate are they working in though? Depending on where it is in Canada, the constant melting and freezing can be pretty brutal on ashphalt roads.

Thu, 01/12/2012 - 04:41 | 2057565 Urban Redneck
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Their stabilizers will work in any climate, and are water impermeable even with out a binary application process.  The application dilution is calculated for each jobsite based on soil content over the road length.  When the Chinese started rebuilding the Stilwell Road, which climatically varies from Southeat Asian tropical to cold high altitude mountains, they tested a handful of established products, and only their product preformed to the degree desired.  But being the Chinese, there are questions as to whether they watered down the products or did the soil analysis at correct intervals, because the process was very closed, and they didn't want foreign engineers on site.  However, if the sub base is water impermeable (which neither compacted aggregate or concrete are) the wearing course will last longer- and allow a builder to use a thinner asphalt course and achieve the same service life.    

Thu, 01/12/2012 - 04:52 | 2057574 Urban Redneck
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Tropical climates can be just as vicious cold climates- there is a sand strata a couple hundred feet thick in the coast plain around Bangkok, so even without a freeze-thaw cycle there is tremendous amount of movement of the soil beneath the road which tends to cause deformation and deterioration of the sub base if the engineering isn't done right the first time.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 02:31 | 2053576 greensnacks
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Still, that's one hell of an assembly line.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 09:37 | 2053984 Arrowhead
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yes but i can't believe their unions let them work on a schedule like that.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 12:04 | 2053867 DarkAgeAhead
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This is exactly right.  And pre-fab generally wastes more because you have to overbuild everything.

EDIT: yes, that's right - pre-fab is virtually always overbuilt, from what's required in stick or field construction.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:16 | 2053312 cornflakesdisease
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Termites anyone?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:47 | 2053545 Harlequin001
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They must be some fucking termites in a steel frame building.

Just saying...

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:19 | 2053322 Yen Cross
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 WE CAN Grow our way out of it!

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:38 | 2053328 LetThemEatRand
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Congratulations Ayn Rand.  Now we know not only who John Galt is, but what he would do with a bunch of extra building materials and extremely motivated/super compliant low wage workers.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:14 | 2053484 sun tzu
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The socialist way is much better:

 

The Big Dig was the most expensive highway project in the U.S. and was plagued by escalating costs, scheduling overruns, leaks, design flaws, charges of poor execution and use of substandard materials, criminal arrests,[2][3] and even four deaths.[4] The project was scheduled to be completed in 1998[5]at an estimated cost of $2.8 billion (in 1982 dollars, US$6.0 billion adjusted for inflation as of 2006).[6] The project was not completed, however, until December of 2007, at a cost of over $14.6 billion ($8.08 billion in 1982 dollars)[6]as of 2006.[7] The Boston Globe estimated that the project will ultimately cost $22 billion, including interest, and that it will not be paid off until 2038.[8] As a result of the deaths, leaks, and other design flaws, the consortium that oversaw the project agreed to pay $407 million in restitution, and several smaller companies agreed to pay a combined sum of approximately $51 million.[9]

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 05:11 | 2053705 BlackholeDivestment
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Socialism is evil. Yahoo CISCO Microsoft etc... proved the U.S. government is a bunch of the Great Wal Mart of China socialist pigs. They proved that many times over with the Lary Summers Larceny Trillion Debt Note Bastard Bailout Bonus, and the Chinese guy now in prison for 10 years, because the U.S. government and these tech companies standard defined giving up (security) his URL (for posting tank man) and his freedom to the new world order borderless socialist beast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQUvNVWL6uo

Freedom liberty and justices is in a socialist (and debt) prison because the world is corrupt. Fear not, judgment cometh. The season is now upon all the nations. http://bible.cc/revelation/18-3.htm

 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 06:41 | 2053760 i-dog
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  "Fear not, judgment cometh. The season is now upon all the nations."

 
My only fear is that you will be very disappointed when your "saviour" fails to show up.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 16:50 | 2055939 BlackholeDivestment
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Maybe you should fear people standing fast, doing no harm, for we are truely the delusional violent witness with nothing to sustain you.

 http://bible.cc/luke/12-40.htm

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Wed, 01/11/2012 - 09:41 | 2053999 Blankman
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Sun Tzu -

 

Boston's Big Dig = Chicago's Ohare Expansion

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 10:32 | 2054190 LetThemEatRand
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So socialism is to blame for the Big Dig?  Seems to me there was a for-profit company that supervised the entire project.  But it's always the worker to blame, never the "job creator."

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 22:56 | 2057164 Blankman
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The people who supervised the Big Dig were unionized workers working for a, yes, private company, hired by the City of Boston and ultimately overseen by the City of Boston's engineering staff.    

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 04:37 | 2053689 Dasa Slooofoot
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Communist country is being used to sarcastically attack Rand.  

 

You can't make up this brand of stupid! 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 10:41 | 2054182 LetThemEatRand
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Simple.  Mind.  The Chinese version of capitalism is exactly what the real world looks like when Rand's ideas are implemented.  Oligarchs running amok.  No Democracy.  Communism for the workers, capitalism and great wealth for the few at the top.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:21 | 2053330 Peter_Griffin
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We're fucked.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 08:28 | 2053868 DarkAgeAhead
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Why?  There are some US companies that can do that, only the building has a better chance of staying vertical for longer.  There's nothing all that special about this.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:22 | 2053334 SoCalBusted
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Where did the drywall come from?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 02:24 | 2053581 greensnacks
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Let's hope from FEMA trailers.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:22 | 2053336 navy62802
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Um ... why??

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:37 | 2053388 BlackholeDivestment
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,,,what do you mean why? http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114182073 

Any other jokes you don't get I'll try to help you out Navy. 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:54 | 2053399 prains
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chinese contaminated gypsum, the prime ingredient to drywall found to contain heavy metals and pcb's flooded the north american market during the height of the building boom and now resides in many of your new homes, can't say it enough CHEAP IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER

 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:23 | 2053337 Spitzer
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and confirm that when it comes to using raw materials to put together end products that absolutely nobody will likely ever want

Haha true..

But it still is an example of raw productivity. When China ditches Keynesianism, watch the hell out.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 03:53 | 2053665 snowbaall
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The Chinese success story is a complete myth.

But the girls do have nice tits.

I've never been to China.

I'd like to visit.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:23 | 2053341 blunderdog
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You can't rush quality.  That 2nd Ave extension is gonna be awesome.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:27 | 2053344 Wakanda
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10 years for the Second Ave. tunnel?  Fugedaboutit!

We'll be diggin' 'til 2025!

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:25 | 2053349 nasa
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Where's the boat ramp? 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:50 | 2053432 BlackholeDivestment
Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:26 | 2053351 Quentin Daniels
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The Chinese call them tofu buildings for a reason.

It'll be abandoned and derelict long before the 2nd Ave subway is complete.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:27 | 2053355 ceilidh_trail
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Don't know about the plumbing, hvac, electrical, envelope seal, foundation, but, I'm sure it's a fine establishment...

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:30 | 2053369 DaveyJones
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Pretty wild. I'll always mark the summer olympics as the world's first whoa

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:30 | 2053370 BidnessMan
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Actually very impressive.  The competitive bar has been raised.  Competitors are going to have to step their game up.  Now whether they are building another empty city is an entirely different issue.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:32 | 2053374 user2011
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Haven't we seen enough how good Chinese stuffs are ? Remember the high speed rail incident ?

There are more technicalities than making things fast. Chinese are missing those insights in building things RIGHT. Building it fast means very little in most cases.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:40 | 2053398 DaveyJones
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they'll never be as good. NEVER...never...never....

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 14:29 | 2055250 moneymutt
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umm, this may or may not be up to all US, Japan or European codes or standards, but appears to be built pretty right as well as fast....by building at a plant, issues like weather or degradation of materials on way to site or outdorr at site can be eliminated. By building in a plant, quality control and consistency are easy to ensure. They seismic tested, shake tabled, a scale model of the actual building they were building, that almost never happens anywhere in the world. The cladding system seems smart and tight. The air treatment seams smart, filtered, but making use of temperature of leaving air to cool or heat income fresh air, efficient lighting etc...This also strikes me as safer and more energy efficient way to build, becuase everything needed for room is craned into place, no seperate deliveries of funiture, no plumbers and electiricans crawling around open building many stories up etc...

There is nothing in the world more inefficient than construction. Why is eveything we build unique? I mean, the interior designs, cladding style and colors etc can be mess. Home building is ridiculously inefficient both in process and end result. If we had a Henry Ford and Steve Jobs type of person apply themselves to home building, making houses efficiently and making them low maintenance and low energy use, we could get so much value for the same price we are paying now.

Innovation and efficiency is laudable anywhere in the world. Its just that the left over money, saved in labor efficiencies should actually tricke down to consumer, not just make a few connected people crazy wealthy. But making things beautiful, functional, and frugal, that is good for everyone.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:34 | 2053380 Yen Cross
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 Tyler) I think we have a extremely talented group of people that know how to " BUILD THINGS" .

       Professionalism is a PLUS!

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:44 | 2053408 honestann
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Willingness to work hard is a plus.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:05 | 2053461 Yen Cross
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Ed:  Er; ?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:35 | 2053383 chump666
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Frightening.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:04 | 2053456 Yen Cross
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 I'm digressing in a " Good Way"!    Where in the " HELL" Have you been Chump?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:35 | 2053526 chump666
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Trying to make cash.

Gotta live y'know.  Watching market tops, picking ranges and trading the gaps.  So far?  Well lets see...hopefully Asia rolls over and drags the horrible US/EZ indexes down a notch.  Looks like that might happen.  FX markets are throwing up a lot of clues like the persistant USD buying by Asia. A lot of SUCKERS think a bull market is about to start up.

Really looking forward to 2012.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:55 | 2053552 Yen Cross
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aud/jpy

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 02:13 | 2053570 chump666
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good trade. watch for shorts on the EUR as they try and take it to the 1.27 support again.  the AUD will be short too.

i think the market has topped across the board.  USD bids are on.

we all wait this:

* Fitch warns Greece could leave EZ this year - Ekathimerini.com.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:35 | 2053384 ShortTheUS
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Tall enough for overworked construction workers to fling themselves off of.

Unless they also included catching nets.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:35 | 2053385 williambanzai7
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Most of the union people on an American job site are paid to stand around, until the site supervisor walks through...

The independent trades want to get their work done and paid ASAP though.

The Japanese can throw a building up equally as fast when they want to. I understand the cleanup is Fukushima is mind boggling. There is no more debris to be seen.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:50 | 2053422 Edmon Plume
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That made me laugh.  "I understand that the cleanup..."  That's one nuclear disaster for which hearsay will suffice for me too, thank you very much. ;)

I hear the greeks are having a minor currency meltdown and need un petit fiat infusion.  Did Japan unload their glowing debris at the acropolis?  Sounds like a win-win.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:59 | 2053557 ClassicalLib17
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I have to disagree, Mr. Banzai.  I worked 34 years as a union carpenter, some commercial work, mostly residential, and no one fucked off.  The boss knows how long it takes to do a project.  If you don't produce you won't last the week.  And if there is a problem, someone will be held accountable.  On the other hand, federal gov't projects get bogged down by the enormous spec book, unrealistic cost estimates and schedules, etc.  The Boston Dig as mentioned above is a good example, or the California high speed rail line,  or the new bay bridge.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 02:30 | 2053591 Dr. Engali
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Then your experience is the exception. I know many union people who are sick and tired of the lazy schlubs they work with. When it takes three people to push a friggen broom it's bad. My dad was a union worker for 35 years, he hated it because the other workers would work 1/2 a shift then either sleep , drink, or play cards the other 1/2. I can tell you countless stories of shiftless lazy union slugs. I worked union construction for a brief period but I wasn't going to deal with the union bullshit of doing as little as possible to "make the job last".

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 06:32 | 2053753 get your snake oil
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union motto = "only work as fast as the slowest guy"

 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 10:37 | 2054213 55 men
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A friend of mine was a supervisor, he would tell me stories. He said the people he supervised would not even finish hammering in the nail if the clock struck 5pm. Even if it needed only one more hit, they would put there hammer down and leave.  Or, if one of the workers compressor was being blocked by somebody's stuff, they wouldn't move the stuff, they would sit and wait tell that person moved it. 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 03:06 | 2053625 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Timeline of the Bay Bridge Seismic Retrofit: Milestones in Decision-Making, Financing and Construction

http://www.library.ca.gov/crb/04/13/04-013.pdf

This was written in 2004 and is a great read if need to one needs to induce vomiting. 

A quick glance over this should make it clear why the Bay Bridge is still not done 22 years after the quake.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 03:08 | 2053628 MayIMommaDogFac...
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January 29, 2002

Groundbreaking for the new east span.

As the state holds its official groundbreaking, Caltrans predicts the new bridge will be open in five years.159

LMAO!!!

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 07:03 | 2053779 williambanzai7
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I spent my holidays as a student working on construction sites. This is one of the reasons why I always jump on those who want to blame everything on "working people".

On the other hand, I have watched how construction is handled all around Asia. There are a number of reasons why it takes so long to put a building up in the US. Unfortunately, the strategy of making a job last as long as potentialy possible is one of the problems in many unions. There are exceptions, but people hustling to get things done faster than previously thought physically possible is also  such an exception. It depends which part of the labor food chain you are looking at as well.

I am not saying China is a construction utopia, because there is plenty of stoic human suffering going on on their "miracle sites".

I'm just looking for explanations.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 06:16 | 2053738 Element
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Most of the union people on an American job site are paid to stand around, until the site supervisor walks through...

In Australia when you see road works or a freeway being built, there are literally twice a many people doing nothing but holding a 'lollipop' sign, in an obligatory fluoro hi-vis vest to tell the terribly dangerous passing traffic to slow the fuck down ... to 40 km/h ... twice as many as there are people doing work on the road!  I'm not even exaggerating, you have to see it to believe it.

Lately, these dumb fucks have taken to putting 40km/h signs out on the ROADWAY to deliberately slow down the traffic, to a fucking crawl, when they're working on making a concrete FOOTPATH 10 to 15 meters off to the side of the traffic lanes!  They do this ALL the time now!

Every year they get worse, I can't stand it anymore, I want to leave, but where can I be free of these fluorescent psychos and their lollipops? Someone is making a shitload of bucks making lollipop signs and 'employing' these useless sods. The fluoro festooned safety-Nazis have defeated us and we may never recover our sanity or sense of proportion.

No wonder productivity keeps falling YOY.

Like everything humans do, they can only amplify it into a damaging absurdity.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 06:29 | 2053751 o2sd
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I'm guessing you live in NSW.

Those lollipop holders make 80K a year when the Labour govt is in power. It's just a massive transfer of wealth from the productive to the useless so they don't spend their day theiving, raping and murdering.

It's why the land of Oz needs a 2nd Amendment.

 

 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 07:04 | 2053783 williambanzai7
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Shovel ready?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 08:03 | 2053836 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Shovel ready! That was very funny in context of a 2nd amendment rant.

Needs a post of the scene from Goodfellas when the boys are doin some diggin out in the woods ...

Caveat : I am a 2nd amendment ranter but would also adhere to the 10 commandments (or 12 if Mel Brooks was correct).

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 09:46 | 2054005 Element
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Yeah, these useless jokers go off to a Job Network Agency paid for by tax payer, and thus gets 'sponsored' with an expensive nationally-accredited Cert II course in holding up lollipop signs and fucking with traffic. Plus they get a tax-payer provided wage subsidy for up to 6-months, depending on what category of lazy-arse trash they are (so of course this means Abo's get most of it) because if they remain 'employed' continuously, for 26 weeks, fucking with traffic and creating needless mayhem whilst the road isn't built or repaired, they're then no longer regarded as long-term unemployed and become responsible independent workers, paying taxes, and making our great land even greater. Huge improvements to the stats too.

I would rather have traffic lights or several blinking warning signs in the shape of waving lollipops with plastic crash-test dummies hanging off, and instead, put these very worthwhile, valuable and resourceful people to work on fixing the roads about five times faster than they currently don't.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:35 | 2053386 ravens9111
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are they building another ghost city? that should help them get 8%+ GDP growth? who cares if it's empty? if you build it, they will come? who's they and when are they coming? TBD

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:39 | 2053395 Below Zero
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Will anyone ever live there or is this completely for show? How long are these buildings expected to survive? Twice as long as it took to build them? Can anyone afford to buy a unit in them anymore or will these become more high-priced Chinese pigeon coops soiled by unwanted and non-paying residents?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:40 | 2053400 Edmon Plume
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That's nothing.  By next year they'll have enough political prisoners to get it done in a week.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:40 | 2053402 alien-IQ
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360 hours is about the amount of time it takes the average American to read a 500 word essay (that is not about sports or celebrity gossip).

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:41 | 2053403 323
Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:42 | 2053405 Kinskian
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I asked Hu Jintao, "How lonely does it get?"
but Hu Jintao hasn't answered yet
But I hear him coughing all night long
Oh, a thirty floors above me in the Tower of Dong(ting).

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:12 | 2053482 Yen Cross
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He's MOOT! The next Meat Puppet is on the way!

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 13:04 | 2054906 Kinskian
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Next time you're in Guangdong, try the slow-boiled cat-meat stew. Tell them Long Liyuan sent you. 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:43 | 2053406 honestann
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Woops!  How do we get the crane off the roof?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:35 | 2053524 Teamtc321
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You break them down, then fly piece by piece off with a heli. Simple actually.  

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 02:59 | 2053619 Cast Iron Skillet
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gravity.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 09:24 | 2053954 zenbones
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It will come down at the same time the building collapses.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:44 | 2053407 ForTheWorld
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The one thing that helped the building go up so fast was that it was basically a Meccano style building, with all the parts already manufactured, so it's expected that it would be completed quicker. You'd expect it to be completed quicker when you've got access to thousands of people willing to work for peanuts and do it 24 hours a day. If you tried to do this in an already populated neighbourhood, with noise laws in place, you'd be screwed, and for good reason.

I bet if they started the timer from when actual fabrication started, it'd take them at least, oh, I don't know, a month?

Then there's always the questionable quality of steel produced in China to Chinese standards, whether they used the correct mixture for the concrete, or if the drywall is full of lead and toxic metals.

We all remember that video that was posted here of the Chinese trying to launch a boat? Yeah, they're probably the same people that built this building.

Just in case no one saw it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayKOlLhlQsc

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 02:34 | 2053578 Dr. Engali
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Wow a whole month. Remind me again how long the twin towers have been down. I don't see any replacement yet. That's a national embarrassment.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 03:41 | 2053651 blunderdog
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The failure to rebuild a WTC is a direct result of it being the most important thing ever done in the history of lower-Manhattan construction.

As soon as something is important in the USA, you can rest assured we'll never get it done. 

That has nothing to do with what it is, though.  The Chinese can't compete with us on this.  They may not understand how important important stuff can be.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 08:31 | 2053878 DarkAgeAhead
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Sure but that's a different issue.  The difference is the guy who blows his wad before he unzips his pants (China), therefore requiring new pants, versus the guy with erectile dysfunction (the US).

Both wil fail to get the girl, for different reasons.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:46 | 2053412 boiltherich
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That is nothing, Islam took down two towers over 1,000 feet each in just a single morning.

 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:55 | 2053439 prains
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might want to recheck your facts

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:01 | 2053451 boiltherich
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OK dip shit, which facts would you be referring to?  By the way, how is the weather in Teheran?  Or, are you implying that it was someone else that hit New York City and killed thousands of Americans?  Because I was there asshole.  Kiss your Iranian butt goodbye, hope you enjoyed making most of the world mad. 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:11 | 2053473 prains
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you're droning on and on

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:14 | 2053480 DaveyJones
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speaking of drones, when it comes to making the world mad, no one beats America

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:24 | 2053512 Demologos
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Let's see now.  19 highjackers, mostly of Saudi origin.  Hijackers visited home of important Saudi citizens in Florida several times prior to attack.  FBI forgot to mention this to the 911 Commission.  Saudis they visited zipped out of the country in a timely manner.  Airport security companies where flights originated Israeli-owned.  Moving van with explosive traces stopped by NYPD after the attack.  Israeli occupants of the van were reported by a concerned citizen, who was there too asshole, filming the burning towers and celebrating the event.  The police officers photographed the van which just happened to have a mural of a jetliner crashing into one of the towers painted on its side.  Israeli owner of Urban Moving Systems company conveniently left the US in a hurry.  Investigation of the moving company's building showed little evidence of being an actual moving company. 

Of course, its obvious! The Iranians did it!  This is what happens when you get all of your information from the lying corporate whore US news media.  You become an asshat.

 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:00 | 2053450 Demologos
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That is nothing, Saudi money and Mossad operatives took down two towers over 1,000 feet each in just a single morning.  There, fixed it for you.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:33 | 2053522 BlackholeDivestment
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...was it a bit more than a Trillion naked Dimon in WTC 1's Cantor Fitzgerald holding company and WTC 7 that did not make the 911 Report? Lol 

What section of the Pentagon got hit the day after Rummy lost track of 2.3 Trillion of DOD payola? Lol  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCIAWrfkj_s

 

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 13:37 | 2055014 DaveyJones
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how do you burn 2 trillion but keep that lawn crystal green?

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:47 | 2053544 BlackholeDivestment
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Hey Boil, see a pattern yet boy? Lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2vpcABWJiY

...it's a mystery wraped in a fictional novel. Lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_7z5eUK7F0

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:49 | 2053420 Jay
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What an awesome video! The building design and construction is very similar to the WTC towers.

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 00:58 | 2053440 StockProdigy
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Even the ever so liberal California had the Oakland Bay Bridge built in China.

 

Cali saved 400 Million.

 

We are a consumer based economy. 

Sad.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/20/san-francisco-oakland-bay-bridge-co...

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 01:03 | 2053454 Demologos
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Nice avatars you got there ...

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