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Total US Debt Update: $14.86 Trillion; $162 Billion Increase In Three Days; 98.9% Debt/GDP

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Little to say here: total debt is now at, obviously, a new record high of $14,856,859,498,405.73, which is a $20 billion increase overnight, $67 billion in the past two days, and $162 billion in the last three days. We will repeat the last part: total US debt has increased by $162 billion in three days. Said otherwise, total US Debt/GDP is now 98.9%. Please carry on.

Today's debt summary.

Yesterday's Debt summary:

And from the day before:


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Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:20 | 1742662 sabra1
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so, which bank in europe is being fed, and when will those pensions be replaced? well, i'm waiting over here!

hey ma! look! i'm first!!!!

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:23 | 1742691 mfoste1
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someone is being bailed out secretly....who it be?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:31 | 1742749 Fukushima Sam
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Everything is just fine over at BOA.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:51 | 1742834 dlmaniac
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Just pass a new regulation to mark national debt as wealth. Why worry?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:26 | 1742954 trav7777
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yeah, lol, I am sure they ginned up the FY10 number to look better than it was.  Now we see $162B of what should've been last year's deficit showing up in the first 3 days.  Lying as a High Art

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:50 | 1743038 tekhneek
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The real question is, Tyler, can we PLEASE have an open thread tomorrow once we pass 15,000,000,000,000 (15 trillion)?


Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:08 | 1743092 slewie the pi-rat
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No soup for you!

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:33 | 1743167 redpill
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If consumption with borrowed money = growth, then surely debt = wealth?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 23:43 | 1744140 CompassionateFascist
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Absolutely, since they count gov't spending as part of GDP, and half of that = debt creation. DEBT is now America's most important product.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:08 | 1743093 The Deleuzian
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I can't wait for that!!

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:30 | 1743139 hambone
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Yo T - what would you or I or most any other poor bastard on ZH say bout this tomorrow we haven't already said...Fuck saying any more about this and preaching to the converted.

Time has come for ZH'ers to form the "fight clubs" city by city, ZH local chapters...we need to take this message to "the people".  The time for chatting bout how to invest to enrich ourselves is behind us.  The problem is becoming a bit larger than returning alpha.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:35 | 1743173 andybev01
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It looks like the '#occupy...', folks have already started this.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:01 | 1743278 Hapte
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My flight leaves Tues, meet you in Liberty Square?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:12 | 1743311 hambone
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I'm in for the Portland, OR event - anyone in is the info

Occupy Portland is Portland's answer to the Occupy Wall Street movement happening in New York City. The demonstration of solidarity with the Wall Street protesters will begin at noon on Thursday, October 6th, 2011 with a march out of SW Waterfront Park. Following the march, a public space in Portland will be "occupied" and used a a central location for meetings, events, and communications.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:32 | 1743368 drink or die
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I thought about it, but I still have a job.  Also, when the Portland anarchists inevitably show up and start acid etching/breaking windows, it'll make everyone look like a douche.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:41 | 1743404 hambone
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Yeah, I've got my trepidations about attending (I work in PDX and manage a team of folks...not sure I'm ready to come out of the ZH closet quite yet) and worried this event could be hijacked by jackass' who want more socialistic programs...but that's the point, it's gotta start somewhere than normal people (or whatever I am) start saying no fucking more.  No more lying, warring, fraud, socialism run amok, no more golden bailouts for Countrywide, BAC, Lehman, AIG, no more money printing to pay for shit we can't afford, no more politics as usual.  Blah blah blah.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:48 | 1743449 drink or die
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Marching doesn't do much.  I'm using the Iraq war demonstrations as an example.  They will either die down or turn violent in the end.  IMO the best we can do as individuals is deprive the beast whenever possible the fruits of our labors, in order to hasten the inevitable implosion. 


Either way, good luck!

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:59 | 1743511 hambone
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I can respect your POV and thanks man...not overly optimistic about it but I'm willing to try anything to attempt to save this b4 it turns really ugly..I know it's a low probability gig but better than no chance if I resign myself to "the inevitable".

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:39 | 1743699 gmj
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Hambone, the Portland crowd is too whacked out.  I won't even go downtown anymore.  You could end up in jail.  Your boss might not like that.  When the middle class starts protesting, I'll join in.  Besides, I'm not much of a follower.  I don't follow orders barked out by some smartass kid with a bullhorn.  I am repulsed by the mob, and run the other way.  Imagine if those Portland fruit loops got power.  I don't even want to think about it.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:52 | 1743914 doomz78
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Unfunded Liability........



115 800 000 000 000$

Thats 115 800 billion dollars.  Big picture.  Bankrupt.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:26 | 1744242 DeadFred
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"The real question is, Tyler, can we PLEASE have an open thread tomorrow once we pass 15,000,000,000,000 (15 trillion)?"

Perhaps a Parity Party instead, a kegger? I can bring homemade salsa- garden fresh tomatos.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:32 | 1742753 GenX Investor
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That is more than the net worth of both Buffett and Gates if we confiscated all their wealth.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:35 | 1742780 GFKjunior
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We could confiscate the entire forbes 400 list's wealth and be able to cover our government spending for about 6 months!




Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:51 | 1742835 Cash_is_Trash
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Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:53 | 1742839 Going Loco
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You could confiscate the entire net assets of the ancient nation state of Greece and cover your entire government spending for about... er.... oh.....

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:31 | 1742969 CH1
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But it would slake the envy of  all those closet socialists for a little while!

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:04 | 1743081 Pladizow
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To: GFKJunior and GenXinvestor - Kyle Bass?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:35 | 1743175 zerozulu
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This is what I expect to happen. And this is what I call," French Revolution II"

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:29 | 1742967 Van Halen
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We were going to confiscate all their wealth but then Buffet and Gates had this real cool idea to have us confiscate everyone else's wealth instead and so we're busy doing that now.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:32 | 1742975 CH1
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That one was codified into law in 1913. Gates and Buffet are wannabes, hoping to be let into the game.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:33 | 1742764 Anonymouse
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Appears to be Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid as $120B of this is an increase in intragovernmental debt.

What others items are intra-governmental?  FDIC isn't, is it?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:49 | 1742829 mfoste1
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ehhh its just probably obummer spending tax dollars on golf or vacation

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:56 | 1742862 RSloane
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That's what I was thinking. Michelle go on vacation again?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:31 | 1742971 max2205
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I am shocked they report this anymore. We don't need to know this and they are bullshit numbers no one can verify anyway.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:29 | 1742697 Pladizow
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What $15 Trillion looks like:

Perhaps the US Gov is trying to reach a debt goal, like a thermometer guage to be colored in at a charity drive?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:34 | 1742765 SilverRhino
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$162 billion in THREE DAYS.  

Ford class aircraft carriers cost about $9 billion each. 

For that amount of money the USA could have completely replaced EVERY USN CVN aircraft carrier afloat (11) and all of their aircraft.   And we spent it in THREE FUCKING DAYS.


Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:40 | 1742800 Motley Fool
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You mean it's wasn't fast enough for you? I'm sure they will try harder. :P

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:41 | 1742804 SilverIsKing
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Actually, they likely spent more than this since this is just the increase in debt.  Some of the spending would be funded from tax receipts so they are really spending more than just what they are borrowing.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:45 | 1742819 kito
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yes, because thats all this country needs---to pump more money into the crony inflicted money pit that is called the pentagon.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:00 | 1742876 SilverRhino
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Did I actually recommend a solution in that?  I was putting the $$$ flow into perspective.   Or can you find a BIGGER single discrete piece of machinery to illustrate the point? 

What $163 BILLION buys -  

  • 11 Ford class CVN aircraft carriers and planes.  
  • ~75 B-2 stealth bombers. 
  • 8000+ Apache helicopters. 
  • 38,000 M-1 Abrams battle tanks. 
  • 3.5 million man-years of labor (median income 2010, $46K)

Sort of drives the point home how MUCH $$$ this government is pissing away.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:07 | 1742898 kito
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easy silver--never mess with a rhino......just had to say in case you had any ideas

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:14 | 1742921 HankPaulson
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Point very well made.

Actually the figure seems to be 323 million man-years of labor.

This does show how far the finance industry has become decoupled from the (real) lives of most human beings and the real world, and how enormous is the tail that is wagging the dog.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:53 | 1743484 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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The pooch is screwed, that “tail”that is wagging the dog, is actually the remainder of the snake that crawled into the dog’s ass back around 1913 and has been a parasite since.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:22 | 1743839 Hi Ho Silver
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Awesome visual.  Thanks for the new email sig, I'll be sure and give credit.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 11:10 | 1745703 SilverRhino
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Hank, I was quoting the $163 billion and stating how they spent 3.5 million man-years of $$ in three days but your figure of 323 million man years is for $14.858 trillion of debt.   Damn.   One guy working since the dinosaurs appeared (Triassic period, 225mya) wouldnt make up for that debt.   

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:27 | 1742962 max2205
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Come on this money was just an advance payment for shit like this. Wait till you see the whole bill

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:26 | 1742714 HelluvaEngineer
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Nah, Timmy is just buying some NFLX.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:28 | 1743853 mailll
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Keep printing Uncle Ben, Uncle Sam needs every bill that comes out of the press, since foreigners aren't buying our debt anymore.  If it wasn't for total secrecy, we'd all know what you guys (Fed, Treasury dept.) are up to. Just let us know in advance when you are about to pull the plug and crash everything.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:19 | 1742663 Caveman93
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Amerika..chuggin along at a snails pace $2 and a quarter billion dollars per hour. We're sooo fucked!

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:23 | 1742686 Almost Solvent
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Instead of the FED, Congress should just get a Black AMEX with no limit and earn some fucking points while they are making their minimum payments. 



Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:29 | 1742740 Ratscam
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Instead of the black centurion card i propose a grayish-silver titanium card with no limits on exec jets, corporate schmoosy dinners and hotel bills, but strict limits on expenses such as health care, food and gasoline.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:57 | 1742786 Nascent_Variable
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It's looking like the latest debt ceiling hike might not hold up to the end of the year after all.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:19 | 1742668 Waffen
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Jew Confetti?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:45 | 1742822 kito
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fake tits really arent all that appealing. 

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:28 | 1742964 WonderDawg
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Eh, they're all fake unless you can touch 'em. Still appealing, though.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:41 | 1743009 Buckaroo Banzai
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Very zen.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 00:29 | 1744250 DeadFred
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It's just not fair.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:55 | 1742854 Cash_is_Trash
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Please refer to Pladizow on posting boobs as an avatar.

Your friendly TSA boob-inspector

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:10 | 1742909 kito
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yes pladizows were the real deal. too bad he removed them.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:18 | 1742929 Cash_is_Trash
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Yep, I like my Flamin' FRN's as an avatar, supple boobs are very nice.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:34 | 1742987 Waffen
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I looked for boobs(because I like them) in red, because its eye catching..Makes it very easy to find my posts in this archaic system.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:19 | 1742670 Van Halen
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Today's news in Obama's presidency: September layoffs highest in 2 years. Documents show ME-Chelle Obama squandered a fortune in taxpayer money on her Africa vacation, WaPo-ABC news poll shows opposition to Obama by ordinary Americans has grown strongly, Obama supporters swear at TEA Partiers, call black Congressional candidate a ni**er and an uncle Tom, more evidence comes out as well as calls for indictment on Eric Holder and his knowledge of the gunrunning operation, SEIU announces plans for economic terrorism in DC, Rasmussen latest poll: ANY Republican 47% Obama 41%, Friendly's restaurant chain filing for bankruptcy, has already closed over 50 stores, US debt went up $20 billion today for a three day increase of $162 billion.

And today's not over yet.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:22 | 1742685 Deadpool
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aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:43 | 1742811 I think I need ...
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yeah but there was good news on the jobs market lately,,,,,,Target, Toy R Us and macys all ramping up hiring for the holiday season

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:54 | 1742853 Van Halen
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So the people can dig themselves deeper into debt racking up holiday spending on their credit cards?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:59 | 1742874 Cash_is_Trash
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Van Halen,

U.S. consumers do pile on top of each other for Black Friday sales items at BestBuy.

I agree we are fucked, the problem is there are too many to save.

Are the members in your rock band still alive?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:02 | 1742887 Van Halen
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LOL! Yeah, they're alive. Hopefully they'll tour next year. So we can spend money we don't have to make them richer. But the show should be good!  :)

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:22 | 1742946 Cash_is_Trash
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China will have to fund Van Halen's tour as most ZHer's claim to be in AU and AG.

After the fiat collapse, we holders of metal won't be rich, we just won't be poor as fuck.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:54 | 1742850 Iriestx
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I'm sure if we get another fiscal conservative Republican in the white house, like George Bush, things will get on the right track, right?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:56 | 1742858 Van Halen
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We're long past the Bush blame now. Sure, he opened the door to this nightmare but for the last two and a half years Obama and the Marxists have been pushing us all through. And Bush was NO Conservative.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:32 | 1742980 WonderDawg
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Ah, I beg to differ. If you want to point to any president in the last few administrations who "opened the door", it was Clinton who signed into law Gramm-Leach-Bliley. But it goes back further than that, if you want to get technical. The bottom line is administrations from both parties have had a hand in creating the disaster that we live with today.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:21 | 1743128 Troll Magnet
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If you want to get really technical about it, the fault lies with the apathetic American population-at-large that has bought into this two-party system and then got divided and conquered as well as those who didn't take part in the democratic process and left it up to those ignorant partisans from both sides to decide the outcome of every election.  We must all stick together and fight the corrupt power now.  

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:38 | 1743189 Abitdodgie
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It was not just one presedent it was all of them they are on the same team, how many times do you kids have to be told that.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:42 | 1743211 Dyler Turden II Esq
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"Obama and the Marxists".

Are you mad? Or just illiterate?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 19:32 | 1743370 JR
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Illiterate doesn’t seem to apply but if you mean mad as hell, that certainly would include me.

As for Marxism, Michelle Obama put the Obama philosophy rather succinctly: They want a bigger piece of the pie, your pie. That old couplet written by some Englishman fits Obama and his Liberal handlers to a “T.”

To spread the wealth the Communist’s willing:

He’ll tax your pennies and keep his shilling.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 20:01 | 1743520 The Fonz...befo...
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Bush and Obama yup...ever hear of the 3 Antichrists that will push the world to the brink...Nostradamus talks of them
1st Napoleon
2nd hitler
3rd yet to be seen is Mabus

Some have said the 3rd is the time of turmoils that the world will see during the bush Obama years...mabus. A mash up on their destructive administrations

And how evil was allowed to reign

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:04 | 1742891 Van Halen
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Folks, we've got another Obama Presidency news update! Lightsquared partner - $267 million Federal loan recipient has gone under! Hooray!

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:31 | 1742970 Manthong
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Only a quarter billion taxpayer dollars..  chump change nowadays, except your kids are the chumps.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 21:44 | 1743898 mailll
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Don't worry, the fall guy (Obama) won't run again. The Elite have chosen Hillary for 2012, and us suckers will vote her in. (No inside info, just my opinion).

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:20 | 1742671 The Fonz...befo...
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That debt clock in New York is gonna explode baby

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:34 | 1742763 hambone
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Every billion in debt means $20 more in debt per America's 50million Federal taxpayers...that's $3240 added in principal over the last three days per Federal taxpaying citizen.

This added principal on the American credit card has an adjustable rate that's ever so low now costing us nearly zero in interest payments, so shouldn't we just charge away if it's free???...thank god interest rates can only move one way (and home prices can only go up).

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:42 | 1742808 Motley Fool
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Thank god for that, otherwise there might be reason to be a little bit worried. But luckily there isn't.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:25 | 1742833 hambone
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Yep, only $297,137 per Fed tax payer...and that's on an interest only negative amortizing balloon payment loan.   Debt / GDP 1:1 but debt growing 10% anum, GDP @ 1.5% anum.

I'm sure that will work out well. 

Funny, times like this I get nostalgic...seems like I remember only a scant 11yrs ago in 2000 when we had $5T, and only 3yrs ago 2008 when we had $ how the time flies when you're having fun (w/ other peoples money)!!!

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:17 | 1743109 hambone
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BTW - on an infinity yrs, interest only loan ($300k @ 4%*) every Federal tax payer owes $1000 /month to finance the interest payments (absent printing)...that's on top of all other existing taxes.  Yeah, I think they'll go the monetization / printing route.

(*4% is a full % below the 50yr average cumulative interest paid for US debt)

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:20 | 1743125 Motley Fool
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Was that ever in doubt?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:34 | 1743171 hambone
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No doubt for you and I - but the math is getting so ludicrous that if you try to explain this to financial laypersons, they think the math must be wrong...Games over for the Ponzi when the average person realizes that the system is gone and it's every man/woman/child for himself.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:20 | 1742675 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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When you have this much debt, it's the creditors problem. It's all funny money anyway... this whole world economy is a ponzi scheme, wrapped in a shell game, smothered in a nice thick layer of confidence trickiness.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:20 | 1742676 cubical
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Debt 15,000,000,000,000 glasses anyone?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:38 | 1742792 sudzee
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Looks much better this way:


Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:02 | 1742886 Cash_is_Trash
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15 x 10^12 glasses would be more comfortable than 15,000,000,000,000 glasses.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:08 | 1742902 Cui Bono
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I got it.... If we could get Gatorade or Dr. Pepper to print a reallllllly big check and present it to Owebama at half time of the game of the week we'd have a wicked fine photo op and get all warm and fuzzy as a nation......CB

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:24 | 1742677 Fips_OnTheSpot
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Look - a bubble!


Thinking about it, I think that is: OUTSTANDING

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:21 | 1742679 Deadpool
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It's all Greek to me...

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:23 | 1742682 hambone
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Sooooo, is a trillion more or less than a million???  Are we winning?  This won't affect the MLB or NFL or me, will it?


Joseph Six Pack

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:28 | 1743150 Troll Magnet
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No, but we may get less Amanda Knox coverage so I think we're losing right now.  

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:23 | 1742692 Harbourcity
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Explains why the stock market is still chugging along...

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:37 | 1742787 gunsmoke011
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Agree - If the truth were known, which is about like saying the tooth fairy and Easter Bunny are real - this probably explains the Tuesday Turnaround and today's follow through as well as any bullshit rumor coming out of Europe every otehr day.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:48 | 1742825 junkyardjack
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Well all that money has to be flowing into the economy somewhere

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:23 | 1742696 Messianic
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Is there any way to track where that money is going? The foregone conclusion is Greece, Europe, etc, but is there any empirical way to know?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:24 | 1742703 Fips_OnTheSpot
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"down the drain"

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:27 | 1742721 cossack55
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What? You think you live in a representative republic or something?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:49 | 1742828 saulysw
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This video explains where it's all going...

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:26 | 1742698 fyrebird
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I can account for about $300 of that number; I charged a new kilt and hose to my Visa card.

I'll be more frugal starting next month. Promise.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:26 | 1742701 RobotTrader
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Like it really matters.

Interest rates are the lowest in 45 years.

U.S. Treasuries are the most liquid, most sought after instruments of the last 35 years.

The more they print, the faster demand grows.

What other asset class has had two bubbles in4 years after a 32 year bull run?

Right now, "Paper" rules over "Hard Assets"

Why worry?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:28 | 1742730 tmosley
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Bubbles burst.  When did the treasury bubble burst?

It didn't.  That means it is coming.

You sure are overly concerned with the immediate, rahter than thinking about even the near future, much less the mid or long term picture.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:31 | 1742751 pods
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Yeah, and with all the "positives" you noted the economy still cannot find water if it fell off a boat.


Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:32 | 1742757 Messianic
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All I heard was "Housing prices never go down" and "ARMs are the way to prosperity"

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:45 | 1742818 LawsofPhysics
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enjoyed the recent bump in treasuries.  Think I am topped off and sold some treasuries for more silver.  Don't care if silver holds, this is physical.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:34 | 1742978 disabledvet
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The USA could repudiate the know "rack up the zero percent finance thing" and then...

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:13 | 1743101 Schmuck Raker
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Let's do it now, and give today's toddlers a chance.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:11 | 1743100 Schmuck Raker
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Every dollar of UST debt is a drain on productivity in the real economy. At some point (which we have probably now passed IMHO) it becomes impossible to grow GDP. That's "Why worry?"

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:24 | 1742707 doomz78
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Does anyone know where this money is going?   seriously.  Where is the monopoly money going??  A bank?  50 Banks?  Is this QE3? 

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:29 | 1742726 fyrebird
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There are only 3 people in the entire world who know where this money is going.

Ben is one of them.

But even Ben doesn't know who the other two are.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:32 | 1742756 bid the soldier...
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A lot of it goes right to Money Heaven.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:35 | 1742778 RobD
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They tell me Michelle was at Target the other day.....

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:37 | 1742785 Deadpool
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pensions, public services employee health care, military and government worker salaries, Amtrak, post office, oil imports, interest payements on debt. the last one is the killer.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:02 | 1743078 Kiwi Pete
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Aren't they just repaying the social security money they borrowed earlier when they reached the debt limit?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:29 | 1743981 lano1106
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I would assume that since it is public money, the info on where it goes should be public. If not this is a huge problem!


Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:26 | 1742717 j.tennquist
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All I want is 1 million dollars and I will shut up and never be heard of again.  
If they can spend/waste 20 billion overnight, they can easily shave off a piddling million for a law abiding greedy citizen. 

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:29 | 1742734 cossack55
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Hell, for $1.5 mill I will start supporting the Fed, JPM, BoA and GS.  I'll even vote for one of their stooges.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:09 | 1742906 Going Loco
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"Hell, for $1.5 mill I will start supporting the Fed, JPM, BoA and GS.  I'll even vote for one of their stooges."

Why are you selling yourself so cheaply, cossack55? Is that all your prostitution is worth? A measly $1.5MM? A decent hooker can be worth more than that and all she is selling is her body, not her soul.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:47 | 1742823 The Fonz...befo...
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no deal pal, those wacky bernake bucks belong to the banksters

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:27 | 1742723 Josh Randall
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Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:13 | 1742919 AbelCatalyst
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Great clip!!  

Could you write a better story with someone who's first four letters of his name embodies his entire character?  Seriously, is this all one big script? Nothing to see here...  move on...    

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:07 | 1743090 cbxer55
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Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!!!!!!

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:30 | 1742725 White.Star.Line
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The captain has assured us that this ship can take on much more ice.

Please relax and enjoy the cruise. Leave the driving to our professional White Star Line crew.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:05 | 1742894 Cash_is_Trash
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Hey Captain, she's unsinkable right?

Are we still ahead of schedule?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 22:55 | 1744029 bid the soldier...
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Hey, where are all the life boats? Below decks?

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:28 | 1742728 Racer
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I don't know a word to describe this!

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:28 | 1742729 JupiterAndBeyond
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"Markets will rise and fall, but this is the United States of America. No matter what some agency may say, we've always been and always will be a triple-A country." -President Obama

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:39 | 1742796 Deadpool
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true dat, American Automobile Association.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:17 | 1742925 RichardENixon
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Soon to be downgraded to AA, Alcoholics Anonymous

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:31 | 1742974 Van Halen
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That was downgraded to WTF.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:28 | 1742733 papaswamp
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So debt to GDP is 98.9%....debt to chain weighted (2005) GDP is 112%. Looks like it's time for a much larger rally tomorrow.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:30 | 1742743 Schmuck Raker
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Don't bogart that KY.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:33 | 1742750 RobotTrader
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GDX/GLD ratio hit 2-yr. lows yesterday and turned up today.

Gold bugs invested in PM stocks better hope for Dow 15,000 if they want to see their stocks back to the spring 2011 highs.

That means a 300% gain necessary on names like UXG.

So you guys should be rooting for higher deficits and more spending and a bigger Fed.

Not the other way around.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:34 | 1742768 pods
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Ummm, gold bugs own GOLD, not stocks.

They may trade with stocks or play with stocks, but own GOLD.


Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:34 | 1742774 The Deleuzian
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Robo:  You only look at the indices...That is surely a mistake

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:38 | 1742789 j.tennquist
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"So you guys should be rooting for higher deficits and more spending and a bigger Fed."

Gee... do we have a choice, or does it even matter????

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:09 | 1742904 Bay of Pigs
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Nope. Wrong. Once. Again.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:33 | 1743166 jomama
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it amazes me how people still don't get robo. lmao.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 18:40 | 1743195 andybev01
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I miss Hamy, Harry, etc...

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:32 | 1742754 Dr. Gonzo
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14.86 trillion....and 73 cents? You don't have to bother keeping track of the pennies like Ebeniser Schrooge. We're going to pay every penny of it back when things turn around for us. Promise. Now could you borrow some more and make up some good paying jobs for us so we can start paying back the money you create out of thin air please? This thing is on the verge of turning around. I can feel it.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:32 | 1742755 The Deleuzian
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Here comes the crack-up

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:32 | 1742761 LongSoupLine
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Bob Pisani says, "WHat's important here, is the market rallied TWO days in a row! This is bullish."

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:13 | 1742917 Bay of Pigs
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BNN in Canada had Abby Joeseph Cohen on this morning spewing her fantasyland nonsense.

They are quickly losing credibility putting here on there.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:33 | 1742767 Unprepared
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Soon enough, we will need Cantor's set theory to account for all of this ... Infinity of infinities

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:34 | 1742769 r101958
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So, in reality, last years deficit was 1.4T.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 16:34 | 1742771 Vincent Vega
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Not to worry. Assuming a constant rate of $162B every 3 days we won't hit a quadrillion for 489 years. We should be fine.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 17:02 | 1742888 The Deleuzian
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What?  Math off?

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