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Treasury Resumes Pillaging Retirement Accounts To Fund Deficit Spending Until Debt Ceiling Raised

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Back on January 5, when we first broke the news that the US debt ceiling has been reached, and breached, yet again, we said "And now the Social Security Fund pillaging begins anew until Congress signs off on the latest interim debt ceiling increase." Sure enough, operation rape and pillage is a go.

  • U.S. SUSPENDS PAYMENTS TO PENSION FUND TO AVOID DEBT CAP BREACH
  • GEITHNER INFORMS CONGRESS ON SUSPENSION OF PAYMENTS TO FUND
  • GEITHNER SAYS `G' FUND PARTICIPANTS `UNAFFECTED' BY SUSPENSION
  • GEITHNER SAYS `G' FUND TO BE MADE WHOLE AFTER DEBT LIMIT RAISED
  • GEITHNER: DEBT LIMIT WILL BE INCREASED JAN. 27 UNLESS BLOCKED

In other words: Congress better pass the debt ceiling prontt, or else it will have to explain to government retirees the tens of billions in deficit funds, i.e., marketable debt, already issued will permanently offset the level in G-fund holdings.

Lastly, any comparison to similar acts of commingling performed by other insolvent entities in recent months is purely coincidental and no Obama handlers were thrown in jail as a result of this post.

 


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Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:27 | Link to Comment Mongo
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Financial rape & pillage

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:35 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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"Operation Rape and Pillage is a go!"  Yelled Bernanke from his newly refurbished Treehouse.

"Timmah!"  Yelled little Timmah Geithner as he ran at a dummy they had put on a tricycle at the base of the tree.  The dummy had "Stupid 'Mercan" written on its chest in black sharpie.

Timmah was wearing a plastic knights helmet, a cape, and held both a plastic sword and shield.  He battered the dummy until it fell off of the tricycle.

"Keep your shield up Timmah!  Shield up!"  Bernanke said as he held his Malibu and Rum close to his chin.

"Timmah."  Said Timmah as he imitated Ben.

"I have to ready the press for QE...whatever we are calling the next one.  You stay out here and practice your technique."

"Timmah."  Said Timmah obiebiantly, as he took a deep breath and lifted the dummy back on the tricycle.  He circled the tricycle with eyes wide, before charging at it with his sword raised.

"Timmah!"

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:37 | Link to Comment Pladizow
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I think Washington and Wall St. have an ongoing bet/challange as to who can most brutally ASS RAPE the US taxpayer!

Perhaps an 8mm snuff film will be released shortly!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:41 | Link to Comment Obummer
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Ladies and gentlemen, fellow Americans, good citizens of the world. Today I find that once again I must talk to you about our Federal debt ceiling.  We have an opportunity here, at this moment that is so critical for the future our great country.  For in front of us we have the opportunity to set a new course for America, one that will take us to places un-dreamed of just ten years ago.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again; the key to our prosperity is to win the future.  Well, my office has delivered a proposal to Congress that will allow us to do exactly that.  But our plan will not just win the future in the future.  We will win the future TODAY.  Not tomorrow, not next week, not next year, not in 2025.  Today.  That's right folks, our proposal will win the future in the present.  We have proposed debt ceiling target enhancements that can pull our success out of the future and into today, and we will win the future today.  Let me say that again, I know it sounds incredible, but we CAN win the future today.  All we have to do is adopt these enhancements to the debt ceiling target.

You may hear some elements of society say that debt is damaging the economy, that the debt ceiling should not be targeted for additional enhancements.  It seems to us that these may be extremists who do not want what is best for America.  Well, we are watching the situation closely.  And to these extremists let me be clear; the debt ceiling target will be met, and it will be exceeded.  We do this for the greater good of Americans of all walks of life.

We have no choice but to succeed in this. 

As long as I am President I will make sure that we succeed in this.

Thank you, good night, and God bless America.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:44 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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Standing ovation!!!!  Bravo!!!!

What a great American that Obummer is.  We are so lucky to have a man like him at the helm of the greatest nation on earth, or what was once the greatest nation on earth.  I just can't remember.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:56 | Link to Comment redpill
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So much negativity in this thread.  Sounds like they just did some routine rehypothecation.  What could go wrong?

 

/MF

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:03 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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No doubt. Fire up the band!

Hail to the Chief.

 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:17 | Link to Comment TheSilverJournal
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So many are dependent on continued government spending which makes it very difficult to cut including :

  • government retirees
  • government workers
  • entitlement recipients
  • improved property owners
  • bank despositors

TheSilverJournal.com

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:38 | Link to Comment oddjob
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Promises to retirees and government bond buyers from bankrupt governments are likely to be repaid with inflation.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 18:27 | Link to Comment Captain Kink
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No mention of "tax payer" or "working stiff" on your list. Bummer.  I can't even comment seriously on this.  Tell me you forgot the /sarc.

 

govt retirees:  ask any airline pensioner from the 70s or 80s whether they should be treated differently

govt workers:  ask european (esp greek) govt workers about this

entitlement recips:  can't afford it, got to change it, at least for future recips

etc...etc...

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 19:32 | Link to Comment Henry Hub
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Continued:

  1. Wall Street Banksters
  2. Military Industrial Complex
  3. CIA & Homeland Security
  4. Israel
Tue, 01/17/2012 - 18:02 | Link to Comment Grinder74
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No doubt. Fire up the band!

Hail to the [T]hief.

 

FIFY

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 18:02 | Link to Comment General Decline
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You know, I really don't like where that deck chair is right now. I think it would look better over there. Nope, a little to the left....a little more.... Perfect! Right there.
What? What do you mean the bilge pumps can't keep up anymore? Who cares! That deck chair looks marvelous over there!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:04 | Link to Comment VanillAnalyst
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this is such bullshit.... goddam pyramid scheme government

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 18:51 | Link to Comment Chupacabra-322
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The Bail Outs List Obtained by Bloomberg News FOIA request and Lawsuit

Citigroup: $2.5 trillion ($2,500,000,000,000)
Morgan Stanley: $2.04 trillion ($2,040,000,000,000)
Merrill Lynch: $1.949 trillion ($1,949,000,000,000)
Bank of America: $1.344 trillion ($1,344,000,000,000)
Barclays PLC (United Kingdom): $868 billion ($868,000,000,000)
Bear Sterns: $853 billion ($853,000,000,000)
Goldman Sachs: $814 billion ($814,000,000,000)
Royal Bank of Scotland (UK): $541 billion ($541,000,000,000)
JP Morgan Chase: $391 billion ($391,000,000,000)
Deutsche Bank (Germany): $354 billion ($354,000,000,000)
UBS (Switzerland): $287 billion ($287,000,000,000)
Credit Suisse (Switzerland): $262 billion ($262,000,000,000)
Lehman Brothers: $183 billion ($183,000,000,000)
Bank of Scotland (United Kingdom): $181 billion ($181,000,000,000)
BNP Paribas (France): $175 billion ($175,000,000,000)

FYI: The total amount of money given to various named and unnamed entities since 2008 is now 29 Trillion Dollars or 1/2 of ALL the money printed by the Federal Reserve since 2008….and people wonder why the economy is not growing?

Mitt Romney Top campaign contributors for 2012 3rd quarter


*Goldman Sachs …………………$354,700
*Credit Suisse Group ……………$195,250
*Morgan Stanley ………………….$185,800
HIG Capital ……………………….$176,500
*Barclays ………………………….$155,250
Kirkland & Ellis…………………..$129,100
*Bank of America …………………$121,500
PricewaterhouseCoopers ……..$118,250
EMC Corp …………………………$117,300
*JPMorgan Chase & Co ………..$109,750
The Villages ……………………….$92,500
Vivint Inc ……………………………$88,250
Sullivan & Cromwell ……………..$78,750
Marriott International …………….$75,837
Bain Capital ……………………….$69,500


*UBS AG …………………………….$64,250
Wells Fargo ………………………..$63,000
Blackstone Group ………………..$57,300
*Citigroup Inc ……………………….$56,550
KKR & Co ………………………….$53,900

Does America Really want Mitt “Obama” Romney? I see a conflict of interest here in these lists. I see bigger bailouts and more debt on America. Romney IS bought and paid for by the bankers. The media is pro Romney because it does not want to lose its investments!


Obama Campaign Contributors

University of California……….. $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs………………… $1,013,091
Harvard University……………. $878,164
Microsoft Corp………………….. $852,167
Google Inc ………………………. $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co………….. $808,799
Citigroup Inc……………………… $736,771
Time Warner……………………… $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP………………… $600,298
Stanford University……………… $595,716
National Amusements Inc……… $563,798
WilmerHale LLP ………………….. $550,668
Columbia University …………….. $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al ……………… $543,539
UBS AG…………………………….. $532,674
IBM Corp…………………………… $532,372
General Electric……………………. $529,855
US Government …………………… $513,308
Morgan Stanley……………………. $512,232
Latham & Watkins…………………. $503,295

 



 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 20:16 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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Excuse me while I pick my jaw up off the ground.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:31 | Link to Comment Chupacabra-322
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@ JPM Hater001,

I actually had a case of Violent Explosive Diarrhea after posting the figures.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:47 | Link to Comment The Swedish Chef
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You forgot "Make no mistake...", O Great Telepromteur.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:52 | Link to Comment Roy T
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Also forgot "Let me be clear"

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:05 | Link to Comment redpill
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Also forgot,

"previous administration"

"inherited"

"saved or created"

"there are those who say"

etc

but a solid effort nonetheless

 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:18 | Link to Comment knukles
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The closing was transcribed wrongly.
It should have read "Alluah Akbar.  It is God's will.  Jihad shall be done.  Kill the infidels.""

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 18:03 | Link to Comment Grinder74
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Aargh, why do you have to pick on the peaceful Muslims?  Everyone knows there are just as many Buddhist terrorists that make me nervous when I see them in traditional Buddhist garb.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 20:41 | Link to Comment non_anon
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don't fuck with the monks

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 20:38 | Link to Comment gravedestruction
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Who the heck? Wait a minute - walks like a duck - quacks like a duck - hmmm...

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 01:13 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Hope & Change.

I actually know seniors and baby boomers who voted for the islamic Mugabe.  Boy are their lives f***ed now.  Their lives are essentially over.

(post under review by DHS)

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 18:44 | Link to Comment valley chick
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Once again the "G" fund is the target...screw you assholes in Washington....got out of it in 2011 before the first rape.....BITCHEZ !

Got physical?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 20:15 | Link to Comment UP Forester
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They're still searching for the "G" spot.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:37 | Link to Comment Caviar Emptor
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lol

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:57 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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As one "pillages"... One is obliged to bellow...

BRING ME ALL THE FINEST MEATS & CHEESES IN THE LAND!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:44 | Link to Comment catacl1sm
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you forget "bitchez".

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:43 | Link to Comment JohnG
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Been a while.  Please do more of these. :)

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 19:25 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Please send all requests to my muse.

PO Box:

On my Shoulder

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:57 | Link to Comment navy62802
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Financial terrorism.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:02 | Link to Comment falak pema
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As Alan Greenspan was known to say, with Paulson, Rubin and Summers saying "Hear Hear!" 

"Financial rape, irrational exuberant impulse, is impossible!  Sub Prime investor with skirts up runs faster than Squid/PD with pants down!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 20:29 | Link to Comment Endurus
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My only question is how long before the government rapes and pillages (restructures) the private sectors 401k's and IRA's.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:42 | Link to Comment Buck Johnson
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They are just setting precedent when they decided to go after teh 401k's of everybody.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:26 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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The Federal Reserve - pilfering the nation's money and coffers since 1913.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:28 | Link to Comment HamyWanger
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If you think that ensuring vital stability in the banking system is "pillaging" then yeah, right... 

Before the Federal Reserve, there was a banking panic and a depression every fifteen years. 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:30 | Link to Comment tekhneek
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You have a whorish mouth.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:32 | Link to Comment HamyWanger
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And I haven't even mentioned the continuous monetary deflation which was slowly killing every vital force in our economy. 

America has never witnessed more prosperity and technological innovation than since the day the FED was created. Nerdy libertarians and redneck confederates MUST FACE IT. 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:37 | Link to Comment dumpster
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hammy only one/ half thing to say to your doppy views in your diaper clad penis

use other parts of body beside the dick to view the world

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:57 | Link to Comment falak pema
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he can't he breathes thru the pin head. No other pores, he is in cabin 223 on the Costa Concorde. Just an analogy, but that boat is as good as the Poseidon adventure for real! 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:35 | Link to Comment EscapeKey
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That's right, that's why the US economy was in continuous decline throughout the 19th century.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:38 | Link to Comment HamyWanger
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What??? What are you talking about, moron???

U.S. GDP was up every single year since 1913, with a few exceptions. You should go back to junior high. 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:39 | Link to Comment EscapeKey
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There's something rather ironic about you calling me a moron, yet failing to realize 19th century = 1801..1900.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:42 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Don't feed the trolls.  Pretty clear who the moron is.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:43 | Link to Comment Vergeltung
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cystal.

 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:10 | Link to Comment gravedestruction
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This certainly will come to a fowl end...

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:44 | Link to Comment HamyWanger
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OK, I admit I read too quickly. But that doesn't change my point.

The American economy was indeed in harsh and continuous decline throughout the 19th century (1801-1900). 

Poverty and misery were WIDESPREAD, notably among rural populations and African-Americans. Half of the US population was living under the poverty line. Do some research

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:51 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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Because there was no central bank?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:20 | Link to Comment knukles
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Because Hamy can't read quickly. His lips don't move fast.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 20:17 | Link to Comment UP Forester
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I think Hamy thinks with a lisp....

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:15 | Link to Comment gravedestruction
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"a lisp" - gotta think about that one...

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:52 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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What this, a troll apologizing? This is an outrage!

We need better trolls.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:07 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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Yes, where is GoldenMiddleFinger and William the Bastard when you need them?

 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:10 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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@ HammyWanger

Glad to see you're out of rehab.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 04:23 | Link to Comment boattrash
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Sorry to see Hamwanker back on the Crack-pipe so soon though.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:17 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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The trolls these days are inept losers....must mean we're at the market top here.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 18:25 | Link to Comment Almost Solvent
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Where's a real troll, like Master Bates or that other guy, Harry Wagner. 

 

These new trolls are Lame-O

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:56 | Link to Comment The Swedish Chef
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Yeah, poverty among African-Americans was all due to the lack of a central bank. The fact that they were just released from slavery had absolutely nothing to do with it. 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:04 | Link to Comment economics1996
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Blacks did okay up to about 1870, and then the southern Democrats started oppressing them.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:58 | Link to Comment economics1996
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Briefly you seem like one of my business students who believe the shit they read in college.  The shit in the economic text books is fairy tales.  It is designed to get students to believe the Fed is good, printing money is good, and the federal government spending money is good.  Its complete bull shit.

From 1873 to 1913 workers wages increased more than at anytime in our history.  Especially 1870 to 1880.  Economists confuse deflation with lower living standards.   If you look at prices level and wages for that period price level went down FASTER, and wages rose slightly.

Read Rothbard History of Banking if you do not want to look like a idiot in public, especially on this forum where most of these readers are pretty fucking up on finance.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:02 | Link to Comment economics1996
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You can also read Rothbard's "America's Great Depression" for a good explination of money, time, consumer, and capital users.  

Printing money is theft, plain and simple. 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:05 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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Hamy is Tyler's foil. Everyone can relax.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:47 | Link to Comment catacl1sm
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I got the audio book of that one.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 18:31 | Link to Comment Fred C Dobbs
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One could also watch The Secret of Oz on youtube.

 

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 04:28 | Link to Comment boattrash
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Or you can look at purchasing power of the dollar, 1913 to present.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:27 | Link to Comment falak pema
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In NEw Orelans during that period they had what was known as the French Quarter index; the number of girls on the block. It truly was the Belle Epoque and the french quarter thrived from the port activites of New Orelans, especially at turn of century. 

People forever visited the cabarets where they danced the can-can so hard it broke the floor boards; those river steamers were a place of floozy buzz. And it fed the Jazz tradition that was born. "Summerime" was boootiful in New Orelans. 

French lace, lazy Louisina Creole, Cajun spicy bell pepper food, were the name of New Orelans. 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:04 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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I know you're trolling hard and I'm liking your style but I just wanted to add that between 1865-1900 was a period of intense economic despair and hardship. I think it was probably worse than the great depression.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:49 | Link to Comment catacl1sm
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Certinaly due to the lack of Central Bank. What was Lincoln thinking!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:45 | Link to Comment PianoRacer
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All you can do is shake your head...

If I had to pick a three letter word to credit the growth in the 20th century, it would be spelled O-I-L, not F-E-D.

We prospered DESPITE the fucking Fed, not because of it. And now this dickbag want to give the theives credit?

Unbelievable. 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:58 | Link to Comment 55 men
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SLAM... da da da...da da da...SLAM......Let the boys be boys....That was sweet Escapekey!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:46 | Link to Comment The Swedish Chef
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You are absolutley right. I can only compare it with my own accelerating meth habit. I have never had so much fun, gotten so much done and I have never wasted so little time on sleeping, eating and having erections as I have the last copule of smokey weeks. If you excuse me, I´m gonna blaze up a nice stem o´ crank. FUCK HEALTH!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:48 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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Yep, increased almost as much as debt but not quite. 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:09 | Link to Comment carlnpa
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In the same period of time the dollar lost 97% of its 1913 value.

Continuous planned inflation anyone?

Any common moron can grow GDP with that type of inflation.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:40 | Link to Comment Caviar Emptor
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Right. In the 19th century there were more businesses than banks, and that's just wrong. Now I walk out my door and pass 12 bank branches within a short walk. Progress! 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:42 | Link to Comment EscapeKey
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It certainly is. Because as they all insure eachothers debt, there's no risk whatsoever.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:09 | Link to Comment gravedestruction
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"that's why the US economy was in continuous decline throughout the 19th century"

1813 came after the war of 1812 right?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:51 | Link to Comment dwdollar
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Yeah right...

Technological innovation in 1912 = electrifying a country, achieving a vastly more productive economy

Technological innovation in 2012 = subsidizing alternative energy, achieving nothing except false promises and making wealthy bankers even more wealthy at the expense of the few productive people still left

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:09 | Link to Comment DosZap
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HamyWanger

America has never witnessed more prosperity and technological innovation than since the day the FED was created. Nerdy libertarians and redneck confederates MUST FACE IT. 

YOU give the FED credit for American ingenuity, and genius?,who on the Fed,ENDOWED us with all this ability,that was never present until the White Knights rode in,Xmas Eve 1913?.

I give credit to Americans hard work, and diligence........................the Banks created nothing, just like the Fed.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:51 | Link to Comment catacl1sm
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Can you name another famous federal govt invention that came into being on Christmas eve?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 18:30 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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The federal reserve.

 

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 01:19 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Also ObamaCare.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 08:28 | Link to Comment Ace Ventura
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Not sure if it was Christmas Eve or not, but the 16th Amendment, followed shortly by the IRS? Completely coincidental timing with the creation of the fed though. Totally. For sure.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:38 | Link to Comment docmac324
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Your icon as the American flag, based on your opinion is offensive.

The Federal Reserve is only 2nd to religion in killing more people than any other entity or belief.

RET USN

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 00:58 | Link to Comment FlyPaper
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Hamy: 

Arizona has never witnessed more prosperity and growth in its econony since the day the sun started shining in Arizona.   

Might there need to be some evidence of correlation in your hypothesis?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:50 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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My standard of living was going up fast because I received so many credit cards.  Was living large. I forgot to read the fine print that says I have to pay it back- oh shit I don't have any income

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:06 | Link to Comment economics1996
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Buy one of them printing presses from the Federal Reserve.  It will solve all your problems.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:01 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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And now we just get one long constant depression, except youre not allowed to call it that as the Emperors robes are deemed 'splendid'.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:06 | Link to Comment GOSPLAN HERO
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Hamy was skull-phucked at a tender age.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:23 | Link to Comment knukles
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Jesus man, that's wrong even by my standards.
Not about Hamy, as that makes sense; but giving peadeophiles ideas....

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:41 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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@Hamy

"Before the Federal Reserve, there was a banking panic and a depression every fifteen years..."

Umm...

The Fed was conceived in 1913... Besides the funding (of both sides) of WWI & the Bolshevik Revolution... The Great Crash (on Wall Street happened in October 1929 ~ though insiders were advised to get out as early as February that year)...

That's 14 years...

- a decade later the World was at War (funded by bankers on both sides)

- fifteen years after that war was concluded, the war in Vietnam began the escalation process

- within a decade after the Gulf of Tonkin... Bretton Woods was dissolved (on its heels was an oil embargo)

- Within the same decade, the Iranians ousted the Shah, then, (bankers funded Saddam Hussein to fight the new regime)

- Within that same decade, there was another stock market crash, a Japanese real estate & financial crash, & Hussein went rogue on his former backers)

- a decade after that, the NASDAQ bubble burst & Glass-Steagal was dissolved

- the result were financial "tricks" which resulted in a housing bubble & consumer credit bubble (not to mention 2nd invasion of Iraq)

- the aftermath of this & the credit derivatives ponzi, resulted in the financial meltdown of 2008

GOT ANYMORE DUMBASS COMMENTS?

 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:13 | Link to Comment Killer the Buzzard
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<--- Hyper-ironic comedy a-la MDB

<--- Dropped on head as an infant

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:27 | Link to Comment iamoneman
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Before the Federal Reserve, there was a banking panic and a depression every fifteen years. 

Awesome, Now it's every 4,8,10

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:30 | Link to Comment LongSoupLine
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ok Hamy...then explain how this is ANY different than what MF Global did to it's clients. 

Buuuzzzzz...time's up...that's what I thought you ape ass. 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 18:23 | Link to Comment cranky-old-geezer
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Fuck off Hamy, we have MDB to entertain us now, and he way outclasses you :)

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:13 | Link to Comment Manthong
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If I get this right , there is good news in this..

Seems to me that when Timmy drained FERS there was no need to suspend payments because like in any good Ponzi, you keep the dividend payments going from principal you stole.

Since the fund has already been drained, the principal duly squandered and Timmy is broke, now he has to quit paying the fake dividend.

Normal con men go to jail at this point, but these villains don’t even have the dignity of Madoff to knock it off and turn themselves in, or the dignity of Mark Rich to flee the country.

The good news I suppose, is that the Federal retirees now get to join together and sing Kumbaya in hopes for divine intervention..

and you know who does the divine intervening nowadays.

 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:27 | Link to Comment a growing concern
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We've been Corzined!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:29 | Link to Comment HedgeAccordingly
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PILLAGE .. saudi's pillaging crude's offer - http://hedge.ly/yzxfiV  OIL refuses to close under 100 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:56 | Link to Comment CPL
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Pilliage what?

 

An offer that can't be honored ever?  Sucker's bets with the Chinese moving hard on the House of Saud.  Unless going long with fiat, there is no reward in that situation.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:29 | Link to Comment tekhneek
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Strappin' on the sandpaper condom with baby powder lube in hand, eh Bernank?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:08 | Link to Comment GOSPLAN HERO
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Hamy is a strap-on.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:31 | Link to Comment CalibratedConfidence
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Good, I'm suspending my tax payments this year

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:54 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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I find that filing for an extension every April, then filing taxes on October, then waiting for IRS bill tends to delay much of the need to pay taxes.  Sure having 12 dependents on my withholding form helps a bit. Rinse and repeat - it's the American way.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:33 | Link to Comment CrashisOptimistic
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What Geithner meant is it can only be blocked by a 2/3 vote in both houses of Congress (a veto override).  A refusal to raise the ceiling by majority vote in Congress can be vetoed by Obama.

This is all part of Boehner's deal, that will now have the Sequester undone such that his 1:1 dollars of spending cuts per dollar of debt ceiling increase turns out to be 900Billion (only $4 Billion in 2012) and 1.2 Trillion from supercommittee.  All 2.1T over 10 years.

So the sequester from the failed supercommittee will now be undone in legislation (and it will also undo the other 896 Billion of the 900).  The headlines are out today that this sequester will be stopped.

It's all complete bullshit.  Spending will never be cut.  Taxes will never be raised.

Apocalypse Rev 2.0 is inevitable.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:38 | Link to Comment EscapeKey
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When they talk of spending cuts, they actually talk of reduction in the growth of future spending. And then they quote some over-optimistic projected return over 10 years, which has never once actually come true.

But hey, vote your favourite corporate agenda republicrat in. That'll totally solve the problem.

RON PAUL!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:52 | Link to Comment CrashisOptimistic
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It's true that spending cuts are from a baseline budget curve, and it has a rate of growth in it, but that's not all that inappropriate.

Population rises. Inflation occurs.  A country of 400 million people does need more government expenditures than a country of 300 million.  Breakeven spending per capita and inflation adjusted would in fact be an upward slope.  So a cut from that does equate to a cut.

But.

The point is . . . they aren't even doing that.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:32 | Link to Comment cossack55
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Well thats good news. Have you seen how over-crowded the jails/prisons are?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:58 | Link to Comment CPL
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yeah, but imprisoning people is now a military matter under NDAA.

 

You can join up as an internment specialist if you wish.  18k a year, food rations and a warm cot.  Sounds like a dream job.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:30 | Link to Comment gravedestruction
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Three hots & a cot

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:32 | Link to Comment Joe Sixpack
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Can ZeroHedge certify that no government workers were harmed in producing this article?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:33 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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Uner what law does Geithner have this priviledge? No one in Washington has any concept of a budget.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:59 | Link to Comment pods
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Under the corporate bylaws for the US government.  They can do whatever they want, whenever they want.

Technically it is not lawful, but since we operate under the bankrupt 14th amendment trust, we are not operating under law, mere color of law.

That is why a court may say that taking property for public benefit is fine and dandy.
And that the preamble clause "to promote the general welfare" allows the US corporate government to assume any power that they so choose.

They merely play lipservice to the sheep to keep them placated from time to time.

pods 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:04 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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True, every word. Amazing the sheep still have the right to bare arms, for now.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 18:08 | Link to Comment MrBinkeyWhat
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Yes it is true, you can still wear short sleeved shirts in the USA (Fuck Yea)TM. Some of us crusty bastards bear arms. At all times. ;-)

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:40 | Link to Comment Jlmadyson
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Crazy times we live in. They will not stop until the final penny has been drained.

The never ending debt trap will come down upon us all.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:45 | Link to Comment LouisDega
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Are you a taxpayer?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:40 | Link to Comment distopiandreamboy
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If the American people ask why their Social Security checks are in the pockets of Federal employees and Govenrment contractors the Government will respond en masse: "I have no recallection of authorizting such actions"

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:41 | Link to Comment Vergeltung
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but, but, I thought raising the debt ceiling was bad leadership? that's what Good King Barack said when he was a mere squire in 2006......

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:43 | Link to Comment dumpster
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Apocalypse Rev 2.0 is inevitable

stop this bible thumping view .

to think some person 2500 years ago was selected to view today and its results .  Borders on the insane .

but it figures .. the world is mad .

this revelation bullshit give license for the killing in the middle east ..

ah but the bible says the last days approach .. so to be faithful kill um quickly before the great dawn /

Z

 

 

 

 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:42 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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With politicians like this what country needs an enemy?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:46 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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I guess Geithner's Xmas stint with Keebler is over for this year

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:46 | Link to Comment Hansel
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Raise the debt ceiling or your pension fund gets it!  Isn't democracy wonderful.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:47 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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Look at this ramp up till the close. They are just really having fun with it now.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:11 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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A .3% 'ramp up'? Im totaly underwhelmed.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:48 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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C does a faceplant to end the day!  Damn, and CNBC said everything was priced in....

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:50 | Link to Comment Joebloinvestor
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Gee Timmy gets to comment on the US after being laughed out of the far east.

This guy isn't even relevent anymore.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:31 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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He ever was? at some point in time?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 18:53 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Well, he used to be the spokesmodel for TurboTax. That counts for something.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:53 | Link to Comment non_anon
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ha ha, issuing IOU's for IOU's and we be screwed

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:53 | Link to Comment mr1963
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Good. About time government workers feel like the rest of us instead of the normal raping and pillaging they do.

 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:53 | Link to Comment falak pema
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the last frontier of the financial scam; the pension horizon. The baby boomers need to be burnt at the stake; take their pensions, they don't deserve it! So goes the knee jerk...play on, Oligarchs.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:54 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Just raise the ceiling to infinity for cripes sake. Just give them a blank check and let them spend. It doesn't matter. The sooner it burns down the sooner we can have the Nuremberg trials for those traitors in Washington.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 16:57 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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OT, interesting Fukushima development:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20120117_24.html

Preparations going on for reactor endoscopy

Preparations are under way to use an endoscope to examine the inside of a containment vessel of the damaged No. 2 reactor at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

At the No.1, 2, and 3 reactors of the plant, the nuclear fuel has melted down, but the exact state of the fuel and details of the inside of the containment vessels are yet to be confirmed. This is causing a big problem for the operator, Tokyo Electric Power Company, in its continued efforts to stabilize the cooling of the reactors and its plans to decommission them. The reactors were damaged by the March 11th earthquake and tsunami.

On Tuesday, 10 groups of 4 workers each entered the first floor of the No.2 reactor building from the northwestern side. The workers drilled a hole in the containment vessel to insert an endoscope. An industrial endoscope that can withstand high levels of radiation will be used.

The utility says the workers were exposed to up to 3 millisieverts of radiation. The company says the workers had rehearsed the job at the No. 5 reactor, the same type as the No.2, in order to minimize their exposure.

TEPCO says Tuesday's operation went smoothly and it will insert the endoscope on Thursday as scheduled. It hopes to gain the first internal view of one of the damaged reactors since the accident.

Tuesday, January 17, 2012 20:26 +0900 (JST)

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:28 | Link to Comment knukles
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Hey, the one I got's they can use. 
Still greasy.
Knew it'd be good for something.
I wind up with the damnedest things.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:53 | Link to Comment JohnG
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I wonder if reactor fart radioactive hydrogen after those....

(if you don't get it you've never had an endoscopy.....)

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:58 | Link to Comment catacl1sm
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What do they plug the hole with, a cork?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:07 | Link to Comment junkyardjack
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They can't survive off of treasury yields anyway, I doubt they will even notice that the $15 wasn't deposited into their bank accounts

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:11 | Link to Comment marcusfenix
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why do they bother to continue to mention this sham? there is no such thing in DC as a debt ceiling, it's a political talking point myth, like so many other things that the parasites in Washington babble on about. 

DC needs to be walled off and isolated from the rest of the country, they don't represent us anyways, let them live out there delusions and fantasies on their own. I think "we the people" would be fine without them, it certainly couldn't be any worse.  

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:14 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Sounds like it's about time to go over to the Post Office and ask them how they feel about this theft of their retirement.

Nothing quite like stirring up a union of psycopaths who are well-ingrained in the system.

Postal: It's a verb for a reason.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:14 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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stealing the public employees pensions, sounds like a great reason AGAINST raising the debt celinig

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:29 | Link to Comment knukles
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Dude...
They're really gonna get your ass, now.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:19 | Link to Comment JamesBond
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this shit all depends on U.S. citizens willingly bending over to receive it.....

 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 18:54 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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But it hurts if you don't bend over!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:40 | Link to Comment gravedestruction
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A fowl end indeed...

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:25 | Link to Comment ozziindaus
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Robbed from all directions indeed. Banks recapitalize through the FED and park it in Treasuries. Guess who pays the interest on that?

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/

 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:26 | Link to Comment Desert Irish
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So what's the big deal? There's a $100 trillion already in unfunded liabilities between Social Security, Medicare and Medicade - the damn things broken anyway, the funding shortfall is never going to be made up, so screw the seniors.   sarc/

 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:36 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Relax...

The seniors will still get their checks (for now)... First... The ECB has to monetize its next trillion (or 10)... Then it's our turn...

OBOMNEY needs your vote in November... The checks keep coming at least until then...

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:28 | Link to Comment Don Levit
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Does anyone have a link that can provide current figures on how much of the 2 retirement plans are comprised of Treasury securities?  Have these Treasury securities been loaned to the Treasury to pay for current expenses, as have the Treasuries in the Social Security trust fund?  It is my understanding the defined benefits plan is funded 100% by Treasuries.  The defined contribution plan works like a 401(k) with diversified investments.

I know that the pensions fior federal workers is coinsidered a liabiliity, and is listed on the balance sheet at $5trillion.

On a year-to-yaer basis, though, does the cash outgo exceed the cash income, as in Social Security?

Don Levit

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 17:35 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Bow down when Obama enters. Hail to the Commandeer and thief.

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