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"The Truth Gets Out Eventually"

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Some look at today's FaceBook IPO flop, the ongoing market rout, and the situation in Europe with disenchantment and disappointment. We, on the other hand, view it with hope: because more than anything, the events of the past few days show that the truth is getting out - the truth that capital markets simply can not exist under the authoritarian rule of central planners, the truth that the stock market is a casino in which the best one can hope for a quick flip, and finally the truth that our entire socio-economic regime, whose existence has been predicated by borrowing from the uncreated wealth of the future, and where accumulated debt could be wiped out at the flip of a switch if things go wrong in the process obliterating the welfare of billions (of less than 1%ers), is one big lie.

We believe that hope is what SocGen's Dylan Grice is what he has in mind when he penned the following conclusion to his most recent piece: La Grande Illusion.

Since the crisis broke in 2008, the Fed and BoE have printed enough money to buy over 60% of the issuance of their respective government securities since. It makes you wonder. What would bond yields in the US and the UK look like without these purchases? Probably like those in the eurozone periphery. Indeed, maybe the euro debacle could have been completely avoided if the ECB had been headed up by a Ben von Bernanke, or a Mervyn Le Roi. Maybe that’s why so many of my friends agree with Atlantic magazine, which praised Ben Bernanke for ‘masterfully navigating’ the financial crisis and avoiding another depression.


Maybe all the Anglo-Saxon central banks have done is create the illusion that our sovereigns are more solvent than they are, and that our budget constraints are really a safe distance away.


But I don’t think they are. And I think the truth gets out eventually. The Enrons, the Allied Capitals, the Bernie Madoffs … they all get their comeuppance. Indeed, it’s what’s happening today in the eurozone. The accounting shenanigans eurozone governments resorted to in order to meet the entry criteria have been found out. Or at least, current CDS prices correlate well with countries’ cumulative deficit manipulations in the run-up to monetary union, as estimated by Paul van den Noord and Vincent Koen at the OECD. You can’t escape your budget constraint with financial gimmickry. You can just make it look like you have for a while.


Because if there is at least one thing the central planners of the status quo do not have control over, it is just that: hope.


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Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:49 | Link to Comment jonjon831983
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Illusion or willful blindness by the masses who fear the truth?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:51 | Link to Comment The Navigator
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aided by the MSM that won't tell the truth

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 19:07 | Link to Comment Chris Jusset
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The "truth."  All we ask for is the truth.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 19:14 | Link to Comment X.inf.capt
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the avg. sheeple CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH...


Fri, 05/18/2012 - 19:36 | Link to Comment Michael
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And at this point in time I would like to add, the presidency of the United States is virtually irrelevant.

You better prepare accordingly.

Quirey, If the Federal Government shuts down the Internet, how much will Facebook be worth?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 19:45 | Link to Comment aerojet
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You don't understand the Internet.  There's no chance the government could just "shut it down" and that's not because of how things are designed but rather how every business in the nation relies on it one way or another.  The furthest they can go is to shut down certain sites (like ZH, I suppose).  But that's it.  Anything more and they would be pulling out the last stop to armageddon. 

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:12 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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why would government shut down the grestest information spying tool?


That's like saying government would shut down telephone networks.


Government doesn't want you communicating in person. Big Brother want to listen in on the conversation. It drives power from such privilege.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:14 | Link to Comment buckethead
Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:42 | Link to Comment Ancona
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The only relevant thing right now is how much gold is there.......really?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:57 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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The only relevant thing right now is how much tungsten is there.............really?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 21:30 | Link to Comment bsdetector
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It "derives" power.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:32 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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Word spell checker has made me a bad speller

Guess what Facebook's social apps are going to do to society....

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 00:34 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Good Grief, Hope? hope?

mmmmm....hope, truth, love, family....mmmmmmmmm


Sat, 05/19/2012 - 02:20 | Link to Comment derek_vineyard
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Japan part deau

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 02:20 | Link to Comment Michael
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I just want to let you all  know I was Banned from Facebook in 2007 during the first Ron Paul campaign for political speech.

I've enjoyed my relationship with Facebook ever since.

I wonder if there's a banned Facebook users club?

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 03:25 | Link to Comment cossack55
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Yes, they meet on MySpace.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 03:42 | Link to Comment NoClueSneaker
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Me member in 20 of such clubs - all of them very democratic and pro "free speech". :-O

Never bitched too much, always a fan of fundamentals. Me dumb :-P

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 10:06 | Link to Comment lynnybee
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 "I just want to let you all know I was Banned from Facebook in 2007 during the first Ron Paul campaign for political speech." , 

badge of honor, Michael, badge of honor.   

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 08:38 | Link to Comment btechtrader
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They have made me a stronger speller. If you pay attention to the corrections being made you tend not to repeat them in the future.

Interesting perspective though

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:34 | Link to Comment tenpanhandle
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I knew he was talking derivatives.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:33 | Link to Comment Politeyx
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The only relevant thing right now is how much ammo you have.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 00:20 | Link to Comment Spirit Of Truth
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We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." - Ayn Rand

I'm afraid time's up...

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 03:17 | Link to Comment OldPhart
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ammo, food water, medical supply, like minded spirits nearby, three inch steel walls, doors and roofs, strategic claymores...the list goes on and on

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:58 | Link to Comment Stack Trace
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Secret meeting at my house tonight! Bring the beer, tin-foil hats, and extra whiskey... we are going to need it. Leave your cell-phones and other electronic devices at the door with the chimpanzee Bo-bo. You will know who he is because he sports a large gold tooth and 4 pounds of silver bling hanging from his thing.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 21:26 | Link to Comment toady
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Cell phone at the door!

You better not bring one of those tracking devices closer than 10 miles from my door!

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 03:22 | Link to Comment OldPhart
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Just pop the damned battery out.  Jeezus, they can't track you without parasitic power, can they?

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 09:21 | Link to Comment toady
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Yep, that's what most people do.

Now my son says he can' t take the battery out of his icrap or it will void the warrenty.

I tell him to leave the icrap at home then.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 22:02 | Link to Comment EFNuttin
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TorProject website will provide a "tinfoil" browser for the web. Just be ready for geographically-oriented ads for each proxy from which you randomly browse.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 22:29 | Link to Comment Brindle702
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Linux distro for anonymity:


Sat, 05/19/2012 - 11:43 | Link to Comment TheGardener
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Can Tor still be trusted ? Not yet been taken over and used as a honeypot for suspicious traffic ?

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 17:11 | Link to Comment CH1
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Tor requires that you know what you're doing.

It works, but it is not for amateurs. (But yes, there are lots of feds playing games with it.)

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 21:51 | Link to Comment RiverRoad
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It must be a real knee-slapper for them....reading us.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 22:23 | Link to Comment Brindle702
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"Smart" power meters as Big Brother devices:

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:18 | Link to Comment gwiss
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Horse Hockey.  You think for one instant that if TPTB thought that the internet was in some way threatening their hold on power they wouldn't justify pulling the plug for "national security"?  There is no higher priority than national security, because that represents holding on to their power.  They will forcibly send others to die through the draft to expand it and gut whatever higher principles our country supposedly stands for to protect that power from erosion.  If there was any uprising that used the web to help organize, they would blink it off without a moments hesitation.

The trouble is how the internet is designed, not just here, but everywhere.  Data needs to run through trunks, and those concentrations of data are ridiculously easy to control.  There has been no success with creating local subversive internets from suitcase routers in tightly controlled countries because these still need access to the web through the country connections in order to be useful, and these country level connections are tightly controlled.  If one was able to develop a distributed routing system without central pipes that also allowed distributed access to many main nodes outside the country, then that has the possibility of robust independence, but such a system hasn't been created yet because such access nodes are hardware based and you can't shield the hardware.  Even projects like Tor still depend on the trunks which are under tight control.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 08:54 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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"democracy is not a suicide pact." there ARE higher priorities than national security...there's REAL security called "respect for one's personal space." Think your daughter likes your wife traipsing around in her bedroom to "just because"? Hehehehehe. "distribute that" i say. The Cloud is the answer...they have a vested interest in protecting your data...your personal space...since "they have a vested interest in protecting personal data" PERIOD. Go ahead..."access that Cloud." Does it even exist?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:43 | Link to Comment PaJoad
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If the gov't can shut all the banks for a holiday I don't think they will care about hurting business by shutting down the Internet. Whether they can or not isn't my question: I want to know how we're going to get our info from ZH if they shut ZH down?!! Tyler, what's the back up plan to get info distributed? Fax? Throw me a rope!

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 02:17 | Link to Comment Terminus C
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If/when they shut down ZH you will no longer need ZH... You should already know what to do when THAT time comes. If you do not then you haven't been comprehending the message of this site.

However, I doubt ZH will ever be shut down as it will be used to gather information and as a distraction/misinformation hub, if it ever came to THAT.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 08:30 | Link to Comment Jake88
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That's true last stop to armageddon.  We are so dependent upon it that any disaster (for instance solar flare) that shuts it down will send us back to the stone age.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 09:22 | Link to Comment narnia
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Bank holidays, internet shut downs, rolling black outs- they're coming to a theater near you.

There's no such thing as a free lunch, in government borrowing or independence.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:51 | Link to Comment BigJim
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 Quirey, If the Federal Government shuts down the Internet, how much will Facebook be worth?

Don't worry, they won't shut it down completely!

You'll still be able to access all the important governmental stuff, like the Homeland Security 'I think my neighbor has gold' page.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 22:52 | Link to Comment Almost Solvent
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And order edible ipads with free next day delivery

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 02:11 | Link to Comment Triple A
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The only site you will be able to go onto is Facebook. You better have a bunch of fake facebook friends.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 04:03 | Link to Comment Element
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Is there another kind?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 19:32 | Link to Comment Freddie
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All of TV is there to lie and manipulate the sheep.   We all love the islamic teleprompter.  If you watch TV - you enable them.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:15 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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David Choe, graffiti artist who made a film about hitchiking across America is now worth $250,000,000+ (almost as much as youtube founders) because he opted for FB stock instead of $60k for some paint job in Palo Alto.


That's the truth of how wealth is created....pure luck.


meritocracy my ass.


Fri, 05/18/2012 - 22:32 | Link to Comment Likstane
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Good for David Choe.  Was it "luck" or foresight to opt for FB stock that enriched David Choe?  Sounds like the same God who brings thunderstorms also brings lots of FRN's to David Choe.  What status or wealth do you "merit"?

Huxley was just another stoner.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 00:04 | Link to Comment Calmyourself
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Shh, this huxley is convinced of his profundity..

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 22:48 | Link to Comment Meremortal
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"That's the truth of how wealth is created....pure luck."

And your one example proves it!

Not everyone in the world has to be a failure because you are one. Most wealthy people earned their wealth through decades of hard work. This fellow was lucky? sounds like he made his own luck. He's a very successful investor, at least for the moment. There's nothing wrong with that, you should try it sometime.





Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:07 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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Some wealthy people worked hard for their wealth.

Some wealthy people didn't work hard for their weath.

Some poor people work hard.

Some poor people don't.


What's your point, again?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:47 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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hope is how old money keeps the slaves enslaved.


let one luck slave get rich and all other slaves will keep being slaves.


Hitler worked hard. hard work as nothing do with good work or beneficial work.


When luck is what determines outcomes, who the hell wants to work hard? just go to wall st. and gamble. . . 

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 07:19 | Link to Comment bdc63
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I've heard talk like this before ... what was it ...

Oh yeah! ... The Bolshevic Revolution

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 09:48 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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I'm not one of your detractors.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 04:01 | Link to Comment koperniuk666
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when i was a kid i was poor. i was smart enough to search for the common trait charactersistic or ability of the people i knew were rich (and to copy it). The  characteristics that stand out are determination and perseverance.

NEVER give in. 

Intelligence is NOT a common trait in successful people although it helps.

HOWEVER, after 40 yrs hard work I can tell you that in spite of the insights above....

More than half of everything I we achieve is due to LUCK.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 07:21 | Link to Comment bdc63
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They once did a study of "lucky" people and found that a common trait was determination and perseverance.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 08:58 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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did you know the original target for the atomic bomb wasn't Hiroshima? Just ask Facebook...

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:31 | Link to Comment ToNYC
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The meritocracy are the winners who take a risk on an idea before its time rather than take t/p. You may be the ass you see meritocratically. Keep that door open, new Aldous baby.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 05:18 | Link to Comment piliage
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I suggest he sell it ASAP

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 04:16 | Link to Comment Silver Shield
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Sat, 05/19/2012 - 07:38 | Link to Comment I am on to you
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How come,have anybody tried to tell the average middelage brains the truth,think not!

Cant hardly make a statement,not tried yet,try Einstiens Relativity,then it might compute!

And further,what is the truth anyway,depends on which side of the Fench your at ,dont it!

The truth, of say,Rockenfeller,aint hardly the truth of say Joao Batista,at Rochina Rio De Janeiro!

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:02 | Link to Comment Al Gorerhythm
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You can't handle the truth.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 21:12 | Link to Comment Oracle of Kypseli
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You learn from teens. My teen daughter was not surprized when I told her about today's FB opening.

Quote: "Everyone is using tweeter now. I have not opened my FB for several months."

The little bird is going to slowed down the raven 

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 00:43 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Yes this is whatI have heard. Kids have dropped FB for Twitter.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 21:08 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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The mother of all irony is that we have to watch a news channel representing views from the former Soviet Union to even see beyond our own version of Pravda.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 22:40 | Link to Comment Half_A_Billion_...
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Best comment of the month.  Don't know whether to laugh or cry, though.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 03:08 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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IMO...prepare. Saverin is John Galt.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 06:36 | Link to Comment spentCartridge
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Laugh, my friend, otherwise the crying will probably kill you ...

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 22:53 | Link to Comment Stack Trace
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Wish I could green this more.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 00:47 | Link to Comment Freddie
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It is the ****ing Matrix and the sheep who watch TV keep them in power.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 07:23 | Link to Comment bdc63
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... and believe every freakin diversionary lie about it being someone else's fault ...

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 03:46 | Link to Comment NoClueSneaker
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Another nail in the coffin of United JG (*) Media.


(*) The greatest propagandist of all the times.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 14:44 | Link to Comment matrix2012
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"The mother of all irony is that we have to watch a news channel representing views from the former Soviet Union to even see beyond our own version of Pravda."



In plain words, it means (formerly Russia Today)  tells much more TRUTH than the established mainstream stations: CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, BBC, Bloomberg, Deutsche Welle (DW), France 24, EuroNews, Al Jazeera (controlled by Qatari), NHK, ... (feel free to add any i may miss here)


In particular below programs from RT are quite fascinating & informative :)

- "KEISER REPORT" by Max Keiser and co-host by Stacy Herbert

- "CAPITAL ACCOUNT" by Lauren Lyster

- "THE ALYONA SHOW" by Alyona Minkovski


I abandoned those Overlords' mouthpieces long ago... watching them constitutes a waste of time & common sense!

Who Owns The Media? The 6 Monolithic Corporations That Control Almost Everything We Watch, Hear And Read -


Asked to give a toast before the prestigious New York Press Club in 1880, John Swinton, the former Chief of Staff at the New York Times, made this candid confession [it's worth noting that Swinton was called "The Dean of His Profession" by other newsmen, who admired him greatly]:

There is no such thing, at this date of the world’s history, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job.

If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and to sell the country for his daily bread. You know it and I know it and what folly is this toasting an independent press. We are the tools and vassals of the rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.


The notion that journalism can regularly produce a product that violates the fundamental interests of media owners and advertisers…is absurd.” — Robert McChesney, journalist and author



Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:25 | Link to Comment BenLightYear
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The truth is quite clear if you are seeking it...if your not then your in the same spot you would be in anyways...capitalism has always been bumpy and those who pay attention prosper while those who choose ignorance for me :)

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 09:14 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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"you don't just have IPO." i agree with that. If one assume's "luck" then why have any expertise in any field whatsover? Advocating "rolling the dice" as the solution to "rolling the dice"? How about credentials? What about professional experience? We can't even have common sense now? Hehehehehehe. Ridiculous. As if this is how we got the moon by 1969. "Nothing guarantees success...but there is a lot that can guarantee failure." Facebook was GUARANTEED failure. The cheerleaders who spent the whole of the past two weeks engaged in a "ritualistic form of pump and dump" on an EPIC scale are now in deep doo-doo. "You just blew up your Space Shuttle on the launch pad." How will another IPO be launched going forward? Phuck Face-book. That's a 100 billion dollar launch pad you just destroyed...

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 10:04 | Link to Comment geoffb
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I don't know if you've read any Taleb, but that would be a good place to start understanding the assumptions you've made with the concept of "expertise" or "experience".  At this point, if I was forced to choose, I would confidently choose a randomly selected stranger off the street to manage my money vs sending it to the "experts" on Wall St.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:09 | Link to Comment AbelCatalyst
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How is this any different than the biblical account of the tower of Babel? - its the same story with different characters, but the storyline is identical... Things work just fine until the giant human ego tries to "solve" something that does not need solving...

Geez - wake up and smell yourself humanity!!! Someday we'll wake up, but for now we're just children asleep in the mists of mortality...

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 07:35 | Link to Comment bdc63
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The Book of Revelations suggests that 'we' don't read the "signs" & that we NEVER wake up ... it certainly appears that we're under God's judgement now.  For those that haven't, I suggest you get your spiritual live in order ...

I'm sure the haters will junk me.  I don't care, go ahead. 

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 08:11 | Link to Comment Pope Clement
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I pray all the time to EL aka Kronus/Saturn/Brahma/Ra/Shang ti... to come back and take us back to our home galaxy in Saggitarius this Milky Way sucks.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 08:13 | Link to Comment I am on to you
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No ,no hate for you.

Just one plain question,how come that this perfect being,created an such speices.

That from the very begining,started out with killing one and other?

Did it start out with the judgement,dont want to junk you,but it dont give one logical sence at all,only to followers of the black book of keeping everybody opresed:Its harder for  a rich to enter heaven,than for a Camel to go through the eye of an needle=meening stay poor for ever and you go straight to Paradise!

Peace be with you,anyway!

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 13:01 | Link to Comment Escapeclaws
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The rich can't enter heaven because they are convinced they can buy their way in. What's so hard to understand about that?

It's like they don't have to be intelligent like you, because they can just pay people like you to do their thinking for them. They love hiring "talent" and talk about it all the time with no sense of irony.

Do you understand the rich?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:29 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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Agree, the MSM are as much a part of this game of lies as our governments, central banks and Investment Banks. The Media are liar whores on their knees to the Power Establishment that blew up the economies and now seek to continue to gain from their collapae.

I am familiar with the media in the old days of the Soviet Union, America's modern media has advanced propaganda by ordes of magnitude over the rickety old Soviet propaganda apparatus.

CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, FOX, CBS, you name it, they all tell lies in oder to protect the established rip off artists who call themselves the American Government and the American Markets.

The Markets are lies. They are manipulated and pumped. America is insolvent, only the Fed and it's massive bind purchases allow the US to continue to borrow at anything like the fake interest rates of today's treasuries.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 21:57 | Link to Comment RiverRoad
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The MSM is paid well by their advertisers to lie and lull us to sleep.

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Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:27 | Link to Comment BenLightYear
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All for the benefit of Americans I might add...well attentative Americans...if you stay up to speed and aware you do quite well in such an atmosphere...better than you would with slow, natural, unmanipulated growth

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 09:19 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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the events of 2008-present haven't given them an answer however either. Where are THEY going with all their propaganda? IT AIN'T TO A HIGHER PAYCHECK THAT'S FER SURE!!! "When the solution is the country itself must pay its bills in order survive truth to power will be spoken." And that is the true power WITHIN as well...

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:55 | Link to Comment catalyst21
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"Blindness by the masses" yes, but the masses are waking up.  Ironically, social media helped to get out the word to the masses that the Fadebook IPO was a big pump and dump.  Sites like ZH (thank you) are doing the same thing.  In aggregate will it make a substantive difference?  Well, Europe in the coming months will give us some interesting clues to the longer term trend.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 19:17 | Link to Comment X.inf.capt
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everyone ready for a..



Sat, 05/19/2012 - 07:37 | Link to Comment bdc63
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I prefer BLACK TUESDAYS ... it's a bit of a tradition after all ...

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 08:35 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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And just because of that it's going to be Black Wednesday this time.


Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:15 | Link to Comment Terminus C
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Seriously, quit posting this fucking shit on EVERY article.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 19:18 | Link to Comment Soul Train
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Tyler - very well thought out and written.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:39 | Link to Comment candyman
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Anyone see MDB? Hello, Hello, are you in there?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 21:14 | Link to Comment Bollixed
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MDB bought 300 FB shares at $45.

He's hanging out in back of the shed. Literally...

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 21:25 | Link to Comment Manthong
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I hope he got the actual certificates.

His heirs will be thanking him for the valuable kindling.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 01:48 | Link to Comment RiverRoad
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Yes, "It" has all been One Big Lie for sure, Tyler, and it becomes more apparent everyday that Gold has been the glue holding the world together through all their machinations.  In that there is hope.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 20:28 | Link to Comment Buck Johnson
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It's beause they know that the big bitch is coming and it's going to be a multi decade event.  We are looking at a world depression and a coming war.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:49 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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At least flipping pancakes will always get you a filling breakfast.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:49 | Link to Comment cossack55
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I, for one, am certainly hoping for something for the CBers.  (Hint-1789)

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 19:10 | Link to Comment supafuckinmingster
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cosack55: "I, for one, am certainly hoping for something for the CBers.  (Hint-1789)"


What? You would like them to eat some......erm.......cake, maybe?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:58 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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Chaos does not lead to Democracy.  After the French Revolution in 1789, there was mostly crisis and conflict.   Napoleon took control 10 years later (1799), and eventually became emperor.  His reign was bloody, and he took France to war many times until his last battle in 1815—Waterloo.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 03:30 | Link to Comment cossack55
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So.......the last ten years of war don't count. WTF.  When will the Iran bombings begin?  Then Pakistan? Roll the dice or die under the table.  Give me dem' bones.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 03:51 | Link to Comment NoClueSneaker
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Hillary pushed the button, giving India all the options free.

( The greatest democracy in the world starts bombing Pakistan in 3.. 2.. 1... )

Avidgor Liebermann and Bandar Bush ready to conquer the oil of Mullahs for Exxon & Saud Aramco.



Sat, 05/19/2012 - 07:41 | Link to Comment bdc63
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the only thing revolutions do is replace one maniacal egomaniac with another maniacal egomaniac.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 08:39 | Link to Comment Jake88
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Said the good sheeple.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 10:10 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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American Revolution?

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 12:36 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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"I had rather be on my farm than be emperor of the world" -George Washington.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 09:05 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Napoleon was a Mason & his ascent was funded by the French branch of the Red Shield family...

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 09:24 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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And King Loius the 14th was a peacenik! "The Sun King" was all about free enterprise and a helping hand!

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 12:19 | Link to Comment TheGardener
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Democracy is bedded into chaos. Like mushrooms feed on decomposing organic matter. A very low form of life in between plants and animals, very interim and short lived.

Spores to last 2000 years though.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:50 | Link to Comment Pancho Villa
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Facebook: the hype that failed. It fell flat on its face instead.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 19:01 | Link to Comment Jack Napier
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What sounds better, FacePalmBook or FlatOnYourFaceBook?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 19:24 | Link to Comment BurningFuld
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I'm kinda going with Face Plant.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 07:31 | Link to Comment The Final Countdown
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Soon the muppets that bought into this IPO will be FaceBroke

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 19:46 | Link to Comment aerojet
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Are the founders billionaires or not?  At least on paper?

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:18 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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zuckbird worth more than google founders bitches.


That's how the elites buy your obedience....make some kid a billionare via startup lottery, reinstall hope in youth despite depression level unemployment, new FB money buys overpriced old palo alto homes to restart the housing bubble......

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 10:15 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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I wanna be like Mike.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:52 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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Paper burns.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:54 | Link to Comment tenpanhandle
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it also covers rock......... for the time being.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 03:33 | Link to Comment cossack55
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Who cares. With the aid of Rudy von Bernankenstein we will all be billionaires soon.  Since I own some Zimbabwe money, I am already a trillionaire.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:36 | Link to Comment Mr. Lucky
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Fri, 05/18/2012 - 22:40 | Link to Comment Ineverslice
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Oh man!... Messy indeed.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:57 | Link to Comment tenpanhandle
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isn't the word "face" already implied in "bukaki"?  I nominate BUKAKI BOOK. 

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:58 | Link to Comment tenpanhandle
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okay, I'm done.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 01:01 | Link to Comment Mr. Lucky
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My double entendre was intentional.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 09:12 | Link to Comment infinity8
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Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:51 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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At least we have a "democratic" president in America. . . . . . . right ? ? ?


Overturned:  About a year and a month ago, President Obama went on national television supporting the firing of Black-American teachers in Chicago.
Fortunately, a federal judge ruled their firing to be unlawful termination.

Overturned:  Sometime back, Shirley Sherrod was unethically dismissed from the Agriculture Department, and her unlawful termination was settled out of court to her satisfaction.

Overturned:  The other week, Dr. Cate Jenkins, who was unethically terminated from the EPA under the Obama administration (she turned whistleblower during the Bush administration), was reinstated to her position, with back pay, by a federal court.

Overturned:  A U.S. District Court in New York has blocked provisions in last year’s Defense authorization bill that allow for military detention for terror suspects, throwing a wrench in the debate that will take place on the House floor Thursday.

District Judge Katherine Forrest ruled against the U.S. government and in favor of a group of civilian activists and journalists who had sued over the detention provisions in the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act, according to Reuters. The plaintiffs had said they feared being detained indefinitely by the law.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:00 | Link to Comment emersonreturn
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okay, sgt_doom, american idle and the upcoming election...differences?  similarities??

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:15 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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        At least we have a "democratic" president in America. . . . . . . right ? ? ?

I dunno dude, these American "elections" are all pretty goofy.

Oh, wait...did you mean Democrat President? 

We've got one of THOSE.  That Adama guy.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:41 | Link to Comment candyman
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good try, there are other sites for you, get your head out of the weeds you snake.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:32 | Link to Comment putaipan
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re: the last one, judge turner's ruling-

and congress turns around today and votes in ndaa 2013 - specificly dropping ammendments to indefinate detention.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:49 | Link to Comment Iwanttoknow
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Thank you.Only array of light in bleak times.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:51 | Link to Comment CPL
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Bank holiday in Canada on Monday.  US markets open.


I'll be wearing my finest along with some friends

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 21:49 | Link to Comment BigInJapan
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May 2-4!

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:55 | Link to Comment eddiebe
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Well, the truth may get out eventually and that may actually do some good if enough people listen and are intelligent and willing enough to act on it. Until there is credible accountability from top to bottom though all that truth, be it straight up or on the rocks, wont amount to a small pile of beans and may just as well stay buried under the mountain of lies and bullshit it is buried under. 

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 23:37 | Link to Comment BenLightYear
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It will be a lot better if things were more solid...we could take our rightful place of a crumbling empire that subsisted for 60+ years based on pillaging, plundering, and looting. Not to insinuate I condone the current actions however unlike most posters here I understand the price we will eventually pay when things are straightened out. My suggestion is too enjoy things while they are good cause eventually they will get a lot worse. If your pinning hopes on the American spirit, American ingenuity, and American excellence I think your in for a rude awakening. If you think American society today can subsist on those things you obviously haven't left your house in a long time. We got at least 10-20 years before the bottom falls out and my suggestion is too take advantage now and set yourself up for when we live the quality of life we deserve. Yeah I know I have gold and silver and food stockpiles so I'm ready. Personally I enjoy the comforts that he average person in this country wouldn't if we played by the rules. And if those thoughts weren't enough to parade my return back with I'll leave ya with a better one. Bernanke knows what he is doing and it isn't too screw you over, he does it so you don't live in third world poverty next week.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 01:56 | Link to Comment putaipan
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milion dollar bonus occupy logic? shalom ben-ladin protecting us from njordic malthusians? sarcasim off?/cynical galt-anisms on? enjoy it now and it DOES get a whole lot worse... fuck you.

asshole. congratulations. you're the first person i've really wanted to beat up in here.

(ok. reread your post. you're probably a well meaning dude. still pisses me off. and thank you tylers for  the right to plumble each other silly 'till someone comes up with a reasonable plan of action.)

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 02:55 | Link to Comment BenLightYear
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Well meaning? Not at all. Just a realist. I don't condone American actions however I would much rather see us brought slowly to our proper place rather than crashing towards it. In fact if it's coordinated right or at least not screwed up too badly our decline won't even be considered a decline. I wish ya would have at least attempted to contradict what I said so I could piss ya off even more however I feel as though me commenting further at this point is the same as me going outside and shooting at clouds.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 12:55 | Link to Comment TheGardener
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"American spirit, American ingenuity, and American excellence"

That what is called `rude` now tells it all. No rude awakening, just some sobering up that morning.

Keep drinking.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:58 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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Too much fucking inbreeding - Period

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:58 | Link to Comment AC_Doctor
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Hope none of you got Facellacioed...

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 18:59 | Link to Comment Joe The Plumber
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I have been embarrassed to admit I went to world news daily for info, but there are even more historical pieces now that documented a kenyan birth, not just the "typo" by the publicist

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 19:42 | Link to Comment blueridgeviews
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If Obama was a citizen this whole thing would have been over a long time ago.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:39 | Link to Comment Dr. Sandi
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Yeah, if he was a citizen he wouldn't be a lying, conniving tool of the owners.

Too bad too. We citizens are way too upright for our own good in this here United Snakes.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 22:11 | Link to Comment OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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yeah and maybe if you knew his opponent John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone (making him ineligible too) then you would all just shut up. The whole birther thing is so irrelevant and just distracts from the real fight IMO

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 02:35 | Link to Comment Terminus C
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You miss the point entirely. If the president is able to circumvent the law at election, that sets a precedent. "We will follow this law because it is convenient but not that one because it is not..."

The law itself may be archaic and unnecessary but one does not change the law, particularly constitutional law, by ignoring the parts you don't like. You change the law through due process.

Those who say, "big deal" are agreeing to the arbitrary circumvention of the rule of law and that really is a big deal.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 05:41 | Link to Comment Clashfan
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Precisely, Terminus. I cannot fathom how so many ignore this obvious, important element to the whole birther controversy. I think it may be part of a larger, planned, social push to psychologically persuade enough people that the Constitution is merely outdated.

Citizenship requirements for a President are there for a reason, I might add.

Sat, 05/19/2012 - 07:25 | Link to Comment chubbar
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To say nothing of the fact that McCain was born to American Citizens on an american military base and therefore is considered a U.S. citizen just like any other child born on a U.S. base to U.S. citizens.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 19:00 | Link to Comment distopiandreamboy
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"Though individually the Romans were exceedingly economical and careful in the management of their private property, the state as such was extravagant and careless with the state revenue. It was found impossible to protect the public property from being plundered by private individuals, and the feeling of powerlessness resulted in reckless indifference."

-Wilhelm Ihne, The History of Rome Vol. 4 1882

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:03 | Link to Comment Charles Wilson
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Josephus, "Wars of the Jews_, 2, 1, 3 (in part, you should read the whole thing):

"And indeed, at the feast of unleavened bread, which was now at hand, and is by the Jews called the Passover, and used to he celebrated with a great number of sacrifices, an innumerable multitude of the people came out of the country to worship...At this Archelaus was aftrighted, and privately sent a tribune, with his cohort of soldiers, upon them, before the disease should spread over the whole multitude, and gave orders that they should constrain those that began the tumult, by force, to be quiet. At these the whole multitude were irritated, and threw stones at many of the soldiers, and killed he [[Archelaus]] sent his whole army upon them, the footmen in great multitudes, by the way of the city, and the horsemen by the way of the plain, who, falling upon them on the sudden, as they were offering their sacrifices, destroyed about three thousand of them...

See also Luke 19: 39 - 40.

Nice quote from Ihne.  We're almost there again.

Fri, 05/18/2012 - 20:20 | Link to Comment Kassandra
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Romans? We'll never last as long as the Romans...they weren't fat!

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