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Turkey Claims Syria Fired On Second Turkish Jet, Says "Act Won't Go Unpunished", Has Invoked NATO Articles 4 And 5

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At this point even those who have never heard of the Gulf of Tonkin know where this is headed:


And yet:


Just the tip, eh?

And finally this, which makes it all too clear what Hillary Clinton's endgame here is:

  • Turkish deputy PM says Syria has also fired on a Turkish search-and-rescue plane -AP

And from Reuters:

Turkey said on Monday that Syrian forces had fired at a second Turkish plane which was searching for an F-4 reconnaissance jet shot down by Syria last week, but the second plane was not brought down.


Deputy prime minister Bulent Arinc told a news conference that Turkey would protect itself, within the framework of international law, against what it called Syria's "hostile action" of downing its warplane last week.


He said at the end of a seven-hour cabinet meeting on the incident that Syria's downing of the reconnaissance jet would not go unpunished.

Was that jet over Syrian airspace for "only 5 minutes" too?


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Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:18 | 2558582 Calmyourself
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Of course I won't do that in your mouth.. promise..

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:27 | 2558622 Kitler
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So the gaunlet has been tossed down.

Will Turkey act or change name to Chicken?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:35 | 2558661 t_kAyk
Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:38 | 2558677 Kitler
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Warning: Black Turkey on the horizon.


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:44 | 2558709 Temporalist
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The Ben Bernank can fix this in 5 minutes...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:49 | 2558727 Marginal Call
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Turkish delight. 

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:51 | 2558741 DonutBoy
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Where's the popcorn?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:52 | 2558737 Kitler
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This is not a job for the Bernank.

Bara-a-a-a-ck! bac! bac! bac! bac! ... Bar-a-a-a-a-ck! bac! bac! bac!...


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:47 | 2558722 The Big Ching-aso
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Looks like some Syrians R gonna experience Midnight Express accomodations if the Turks get real horny 4 revenge.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:22 | 2558907 DoChenRollingBearing
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Ha ha!  Nice one!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 16:26 | 2559366 LeisureSmith
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Turducken is what you do when shit hits the fan.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:37 | 2558672 bdc63
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those damn Turks ... never have been able to take a joke ...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:01 | 2559083 Peter Pan
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The Turks thought they could get away with their arrogant beaviour just like they intrude on Greek air space virtually every day.

Will Russia act to defend Syria or will the engineered (?) drop in oil prices make her back off?

Never did I expect the USA to become such a warmongering nation because that is the pivotal factor in all these side shows.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:24 | 2559179 Mountainview
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I read this script already somewhere in my history books. But I don't remember if it was in the 1930's or the 1990's?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 16:05 | 2559303 Coast Watcher
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Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:31 | 2559757 ghenny
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Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:06 | 2558841 bloostar
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Remember most issues come back to th USA or Russia (possibly China now aswell). Maybe a way to destabilise Turkey and thereafter Europe by the big reds? Or a way for nato to get involved. There's reason behind everything.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:31 | 2558945 Seer
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"There's THE USA behind everything."


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:53 | 2559055 gmrpeabody
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Then again..., all of these pukes are quite capable of phuking up all by themselves.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:03 | 2559682 bloostar
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Thank you comrade.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:59 | 2559076 MassDecep
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The real truth should read:

CIA insurgents have fire rockets inside Syria at Turkish fighter jets. War to get world out of economic collapse has started!!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:30 | 2558640 a growing concern
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Just the tip, bitchez!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:46 | 2558665 Divided States ...
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If someone entered my property, hes gonna get it. Dont matter for 5 seconds or 5 minutes, Im gonna take him out. Whats wrong with that? I am protecting my own interest. The Turks basically bluffed Syria to shoot at them FOR A SECOND TIME and they RIGHTFULLY obliged. And markets like this news, its definitely bullish.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:52 | 2558750 The Third Man
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Just the tip? Only 5 minutes?

At top speed, the Mach 2.2 capable F-4 can cover a lot of miles in 5 minutes.

761 x 2.2 = 1674.2 mph

1674.2/60 = 27.90/minute

27.9 x 5 = 140 miles in 5 minutes time....that's enough for a bombing run.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:24 | 2559178 Drag Racer
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F4 can not break the sound barrier on the deck...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 16:59 | 2559464 The Third Man
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True....but even at 700mph it can still cover almost 60 miles in 5 minutes of fly time.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 17:03 | 2559476 Overflow-admin
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But F-4 isnt capable of Mach 2.2 around level zero (the air is too dense, not enough trust vs drag to maintain the speed + engine not working in best conditions).

Max Speed At Sea Level : 780kt (Mach 1.18; 1,445km/h; 898mph)

So lets say 70miles ok?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 17:42 | 2559620 IMACOINNUT
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Considering the age of the F4-E having been built in 1974 ( at the latest) the wings probably fell off as it tried to make a getaway at that speed.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:35 | 2558964 Doomer
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Buy the fucking tip!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:45 | 2558715 battle axe
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One word, "Mayans".

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:34 | 2559768 ghenny
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Mormon Theocratic Kingdom

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:02 | 2558815 1100-TACTICAL-12
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got potassium iodide ?   WWIII is starting right before our eyes.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 16:57 | 2559458 ZeroAvatar
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Let's see:  Worldwide economic meltdown, CHECK.  War with Russia weeks away, CHECK.  US fiscal cliff, St. Trayvon trial, Obama unelected, riots in the street: CHECK.  Record heatwave, apocalyptic fires, smoke in the atmosphere, CHECK. Martial law by December 1, 2012, CHECK.  Police state, drones in US skies, tanks in streets, black helicopters on rooftops, CHECK.  Atmosphere poisoned by FUKU radiation, oceans polluted, fresh water scarce: CHECK.  Zombies everywhere trying to pass themselves off as human as they watch DWTS, Snooki, kardashian, CHECK. 


What's not to love?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:36 | 2559775 ghenny
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Snooki for Head of the Fed

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:31 | 2559904 Ben Dover
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Snookie gives head to the Fed?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:18 | 2558583 wisefool
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51% of americans do not care. and why would they?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:22 | 2558608 Stormy Weather
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To raise this number they only need of a good incubator story 95% will believe, once again.


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:29 | 2558635 wisefool
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What if these syrian SAM operators had just returned from the United Nations/Al Gore Environmental party in Rio last week, and decided that combat air patrols are destroying the environment? I "wheels up, rings off" for the syrian defense force!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:51 | 2558744 Marginal Call
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I'm gonna hold out for Colin Powell with sattelite pics of an ice cream truck serving yellow cake. 

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:00 | 2558795 wisefool
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Project Babylon was a project with unknown objectives commissioned by the then Iraqi president Saddam Hussein to build a series of 'superguns'. The design was based on research from the 1960s Project HARP led by the Canadian artillery expert Gerald Bull. There were most likely four different devices in the program.

Somebody please dig up Al Haig. we are going to need some serious taxation for this one. Al Gore is off getting a massage in one his several multimillion dolar ocean front mansions.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:51 | 2559050 Pure Evil
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They'll care when they re-institute the draft. Currently the all-volunteer services is stretched beyond the breaking point.

Hopefully those approximately 800,000 recently amnestied illegals can fill the void.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:14 | 2559141 10mm
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Good Luck with that Draft.Fuck em,fuck em in the ear.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 17:07 | 2559472 ZeroAvatar
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Yeah, I'm a former Marine, but I'll let anyone who wants to avoid the draft hang out at my compound.  They'll have to help grow food, defend the perimeter, and other assorted details, but I can't see letting anymore good U.S. men and women fight these wars for TPTB.  Why die, for nothing?


If they were here, in CONUS, defending our borders and America, that would be different.  Fighting wars for oil, for Israel, for any reason other than an attack on American soil is just not gonna cut it with me anymore.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 17:13 | 2559501 Seer
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As former Marine myself, I second your comments!

Tue, 06/26/2012 - 00:47 | 2560584 monad
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War is a Racket by USMC Major General Smedley Butler

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:45 | 2559241 Liquid Courage
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Obviously, at the top of the list of "Dumb-ass Things We Fucked Up in 'Nam Not to be Repeated in the New, Improved PNAC" is:

1. NO DRAFT. no how, no way!

Next must be:

2. EMBED those muthafuckin', pansy-ass War Correspondants and keep them firmly under our thumb ... I mean wing ... yeah, that's it ... for their own protection, of course.


Working like a charm so far and I would not expect that part of the Game Plan to change any time soon.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:39 | 2559780 ghenny
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Why not go the whole hog.  Children of all the Chickenhawks of the last administration starting with Cheney and Bush families. Follow that up with the Romney tribe.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:30 | 2558638 knukles
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If it interferes with fucking with the Kardashians then all hell'll break loose.

I can't take this drama.
Gonna go get a prostate massage and back tweezing.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:32 | 2558650 Comay Mierda
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99.9% have no idea what the Gulf of Tonkin event was.  99.9% can't even find Syria on a map

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:36 | 2558671 john39
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no idea about the USS Liberty and that false flag attack either....

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:42 | 2558698 Red Heeler
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USS Liberty wasn't a false flag attack; it was cold-blooded murder.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:47 | 2558720 Monedas
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I agree .... but it was totally negated by LBJ's wimpy non-response !   Monedas   1929   Comedy Jihad LBJ's Got Your Back

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:53 | 2558751 john39
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false flag that went bad...  you are correct.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:00 | 2558800 Benjamin Glutton
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There definitely shouldn't be any explosive materials near a nuclear plant.



Swedish police baffled by explosives near nukes Sweden increased its security alert

Updated: Friday, 22 Jun 2012, 8:49 AM EDT
Published : Friday, 22 Jun 2012, 7:39 AM EDT

STOCKHOLM (AP) — Two days after nuclear officials found a small amount of explosives on a forklift on the grounds of Sweden's largest nuclear power plant, police said they still had no clues about possible perpetrators or how the material got there.

Officers completed a search of the plant's premises in the morning, but found no other explosives, police spokesman Tommy Nyman said Friday.

"There's no suspect and we're trying to find out the motive now ... how it could get in there, and why," he said.

Nuclear officials said they had received no threats.

Nyman said investigators were analyzing witness statements and security camera footage of the vehicle's movements. He declined to give more details.

Power utility Vattenfall said the clay-like, fist-sized explosive was found on a fire extinguisher in the forklift during a routine check as it entered the high-security enclosure, where the four reactors are situated, from the plant's adjoining industrial area.

"To me, it looked like the size of a fist," Ringhals spokesman Gosta Larsen said, noting that the small gray mass would have been difficult to spot if the sniffer-dogs had not found it.

There was no danger of explosion because the material did not have a detonator or triggering device, police and nuclear officials said. They insisted that even if it had exploded, the damage would have been minimal and would not have affected the plant.

Police combed the outer enclosure of the Ringhals plant — an area the size of 150 football fields — but found no indication that the explosive had been brought in through or over the surrounding fencing, Gith Thedvall, a local police spokeswoman, said.

"So it must have been brought in by someone who came through the control gates," she said, referring to the gates at the plant's outer enclosure.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:06 | 2558724 prole
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no idea about the USS Liberty and that false flag attack either....

USS Liberty wasn't a false flag attack; it was cold-blooded murder.



You are both right

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:39 | 2558980 Boop
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It's two, two, two things in one!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:50 | 2558734 Albertarocks
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No idea about the burning down of the Reichstag in Germany before World War II either (1933), which was just another 'false flag' operation conducted by Germany itself and blamed on an innocent retarded Dutchman.  The whole purpose of the episode was to justify and form the Nazi party.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:56 | 2559059 Pure Evil
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The Nazi party was already well established before 1933. What it did do was allow Hitler to push through the Enabling Act which then allowed Hitler to assume dictatorship of Germany.

"The Enabling Act (German: Ermächtigungsgesetz) was passed by Germany's Reichstag and signed by President Paul von Hindenburg on 23 March 1933. It was the second major step, after the Reichstag Fire Decree, through which Chancellor Adolf Hitler legally obtained plenary powers and established his dictatorship."


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:42 | 2558699 Cyrano de Bivouac
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Ambrose Bierce said, "war is God's way of teaching Americans geography".

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:50 | 2558736 Monedas
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God is an American !  Jesus was a Jew !     Monedas    1929     Comedy Jihad God Is In My Stable Of Joke Writers

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:49 | 2558713 LouisDega
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Syria.. Isnt that the Sattelite radio company where Howard Stern is?


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:14 | 2558874 IrritableBowels
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No that's Serious, but they spell it weird.  The one with the picture of the dog.


/dumbAmerican off

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:48 | 2558721 Temporalist
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Syria?  That's between Krispy Kreme and Best Buy right?  That's the new high end Sears right?  Syriasly?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:27 | 2558930 DoChenRollingBearing
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You're in good form today, my second chuckle from you.

+ 1, of course!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 16:06 | 2559305 Temporalist
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I wish my sarcasm wasn't so but as long as we can laugh without getting "disappeared"...for a little while yet anyway.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:05 | 2559102 Animal Cracker
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The reason that US Americans are unable to find Serious on a map is because...uh...some people out there in our nation don't have maps. 

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:14 | 2559139 Arthor Bearing
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I am so cereal

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:28 | 2559191 JohnKozac
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"Syria?" such place. I looked all over my Oklahoma map and there is no Syria!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 17:06 | 2559481 Overflow-admin
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Not good to be the 99.9% all days right?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:40 | 2559782 ghenny
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Thats where the 0.1 % sent the kids of the 99.9% to die.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:35 | 2559915 Milton Freewater
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I want a my own percent god damn it!  I've tried to tell family, friends to get their shit together.  They look at me like i'm telling them about Santa for the first time.  I am not the 1%  and I am not the 99%.  WTF



Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:39 | 2558680 tiger
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Debt? What Debt? Baracco can ask buddy benny to print a war fund stash

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:06 | 2558840 jmc8888
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A 5th generation MIRV altered Topol-M ICBM can vaporize all of Kim's butt in just one missle live on reality TV.  Just a few seconds before everywhere else is hit. 

Missile shield my ass with these. 




Mon, 06/25/2012 - 17:16 | 2559522 LeisureSmith
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Topol and MIRV is two words that resonates with's also one of the bossest weapon names in history: The SS-18 Satan. Why NATO would give the "enemy" bonus fearfactor i don't know. Fear of a doomsday gap maybe.

To parapharase Nike: Just don't do it.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:18 | 2558586 Cultural Capital
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Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:20 | 2558588 gnomon
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Oh, this is beyond the pale, coming as it does at this juncture of euro implosion and general market/economic activity worldwide.  Coincidence?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:40 | 2558653 knukles
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Syria has something like 28.5 tonnes of gold.
Syria is a bad actor (so said our leaders)
Syria needs to be taught a lesson (In what I am not sure, yet.)
Syria would be one hell of a job Brownie diversion in an election year.
Syria is a pal of Iran's

What could go wrong?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:28 | 2558936 DoChenRollingBearing
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Naah!  Not enough gold!  :)

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:32 | 2559203 Drag Racer
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nope, gold already in Russia.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:19 | 2558589 MFL8240
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Perfect oppurtunity for us to get involved in yet another war.  That is all this is about.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:21 | 2558601 azzhatter
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Odumbo wants to look like he has a penis. Hilary, who also probably does, is helping

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:30 | 2558636 BlueCollaredOne
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You give Obama to much credit, everyone knows he's just a puppet.

And are you insinuating that "having a penis" is demonstrated by waging war?  I hope not, that's FOX news'esque. 

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:38 | 2558678 bigkahuna
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It is about penises, just look

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:48 | 2558726 Red Heeler
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"You got some brown people in your country tell 'em to watch the fuck out!"

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:42 | 2558694 knukles
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In that case Hillary has 2 peni

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:30 | 2558941 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

Now THAT is just plain nasty!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:41 | 2558992 Seer
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Yeah, don't F with her- that second one was broken off of someone who did...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 17:12 | 2559495 ZeroAvatar
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That's pronounced 'penn'yi'.  

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:03 | 2558824 Rip van Wrinkle
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What's with the probably?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:48 | 2559799 ghenny
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Wrong. Obama and Hilary are trying to tone things down.  Romney wants to bomb Syria, Iran and Russia yet no one in his family has ever served in the US military.  Where was he during the Vietnam war?  Signing up converts for the future Mormon Theocratic Kingdom of the USA which he aims to lead in memory of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young who preached that kingdom as does the inner circle of the LDS church.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:37 | 2558669 crawldaddy
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only problem, there is a potential real enemy here, not just third world asshats wannabees.

I've met my share of Russians, nice but tough people, just not people you want to fuck with.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:19 | 2558893 xela2200
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Or their women.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:20 | 2558592 Nage42
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So let me get this straight... we fly a plane into another country's airspace (that said "don't fly here!") and they shot that plane down.  Then... we did it again, and they did it again... and there should be exasperated outrage?

What did Einstein have to say about expecting different outcomes?


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:37 | 2558670 TrainWreck1
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Einstein said, "If, in the future, they had some sort of TSA, they could stop this insanity"

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:53 | 2558754 Temporalist
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So long as there are men there will be wars. -Albert Einstein

I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -Albert Einstein

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:44 | 2559007 Seer
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Exactly!  You'd think that after the first "mistake" that Turkey would be a bit more cautious...  And as someone deftly pointed out above, a mere 5 minutes of being "off course" is plenty enough time to travel a fair distance to strike a target.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 16:27 | 2559373 Day_Of_The_Tentacle
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I think that the point is, that if the first jet was really shot down over international waters like Turkey claims, and they know exactly where the plane is situated as per earlier report, what the hell is a search and rescue unit doing in Syrian airspace once again??.

My conclusion so far: The plane wreck is situated in Syrian waters, and they are all bullshitting us once again to wage an illegal war, we provoked ourselves.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 17:21 | 2559539 Seer
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I think that we can all ignore ALL of the supposed "details" and just go with what the energy level is conveying- a desire for war.

Personally, I believe that little plots like this are kept on the back burner for times when things like an EU collapse is appearing on the radar screen...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 17:47 | 2559638 Day_Of_The_Tentacle
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I agree. It is really sad. I wish there was a way to put all those high energy people in the first assault wave. Maybe that could temper their desires a wee bit.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:20 | 2558595 mrktwtch2
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does syria have oil?? no?? then who the fuck cares..let russia deal with it

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:23 | 2558616 smb12321
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That's what I say but the posters are frothing at the mouth with rage and see this as (what else?) yet another conspiracy/plot arranged by the folks controlling the world.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:49 | 2558728 prole
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Well you are on the team, so why don't you clue us in?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:48 | 2559030 Seer
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Why are YOU people so fucking stupid?  No, NO ONE CAN BE _THAT_ STUPID, therefore you have to be a troll or sympathizer...

Airspace control.  Sea ports.  Good fucking god... simple military strategy shit.  On one hand I'm glad that people like YOU aren't making high-level decisions; on the other hand people like YOU vote- we're fucked!

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:10 | 2559123 Abitdodgie
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Trust me people ARE that fucking stupid.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:31 | 2558648 reload
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"does syria have oil?? no?? then who the fuck cares..let russia deal with it"

Take a good look at the map.....notice anything? Think about the likely flightpath that Isreali Jets would need to use to get to Iran.

Syria bristling with Russian SAMS of the latest generation makes it impossible. Thats what this as all about, OIL yes, Syrian oil - obviously not, but Syrian airspace YES.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:36 | 2558662 BlueCollaredOne
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Lets not forgot that Syria is one of the 5 or so remaining countries in the world that isn't tied to central banks. 



Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:43 | 2558702 Terminus C
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but, but... I thought it was about the oil...

Oil is small potatoes, control of money supply is everything.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:47 | 2559248 mick_richfield
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heh heh.

"Our money or your life."

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 18:00 | 2559676 e-recep
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please elaborate. how does a country become tied to central banks? i googled to no avail

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:46 | 2558719 papaswamp
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Nice!....'retaliation' would be to take out all AA sites....Israeli strike on Iran would follow shortly. The question is if Russia would get involved....doubt it, but if the world economy gets bad enough, the big boys might decide to fight.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:51 | 2558747 knightowl77
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Israel would fly over Jordan, then Iraq to hit Iran...flying over Syria would give the Iranians too much of a warning as well as being hazardous to their warplanes.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:26 | 2559186 reload
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Target numero uno would be the Iranian `research reactors` both in the far north, much easier to go over Syria

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 17:15 | 2559506 ThirdWorldDude
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No worries, Bibi rented an airbase in Azerbaijan a few months ago. Hit-and-run ETA under 10 minutes...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:20 | 2558596 azzhatter
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I believe Putin is making a pitstop in Israel today

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:29 | 2558632 crawldaddy
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I wonder if he will give them a good talking too like he did Obama this last week.

I'm guessing he is making it plain, Russia aint playing here. This aint libya

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:51 | 2558739 prole
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If he said that, he would never leave ISrasel. There is more to this story than we know....

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:29 | 2558939 crawldaddy
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doesnt look like it.  Israel just got their talking too.  Iran is not to be attacked, If Iran is to not persue Nukes, it must be done via negotiation.  Now who's idea you think that is?

The Bear aint messing around.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:51 | 2559048 Seer
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LOL.  The Russians would level Israel in no time flat.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:20 | 2558597 Stormy Weather
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I wonder how many toilet paper sheets with Washington's head on it he got to declare this?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:21 | 2558600 AnAnonymous
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US citizens love their drama, their propaganda and their fantasy.

Caught in the act but still denying.

Who are they trying to lie to? The lies are so unpolished, so raw. Who could believe them?

When will US citizens come to the conclusion that with the level of propaganda, it is better not having propaganda at all?

Better to admit that this airplane was sent to test Syria anti air force strength.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:43 | 2558707 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Even though AnAnonymous had to route it through his ridiculous 'US citizenism' filter, which ascribes a peculiar set of beliefs to a whole continent, I had to give him a +1 on this.

The lies are cartoonish in their crudery, as if the US government and its NATO puppets no longer even care to put forth the effort to make them believable.

Better to admit that this airplane was sent to test Syria anti air force strength.

Absolutely correct. The mission of this plane was obvious. Now everyone is crying because hornets sting people that poke their nest with a stick. Big surprise.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:52 | 2558752 CommunityStandard
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+1 on calling out the filter, as much as I love blanket statements.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:07 | 2559110 LowProfile
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I could not bring myself to give him a +1 due to his extreme and pernicious douchiness, so I gave it to you instead.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 16:18 | 2559332 akak
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I did the same --- and then gave you a +1 as well.

But I still had to give the bigoted Chicom AI trollbot a -1 for trotting out his incessant "US Citizen" roadside Deng.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 17:21 | 2559531 ZeroAvatar
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Same here:  AnAn is just a stupid troll, ALREADY red-arrowed, wish I could do more.  Red Arrow, Scroll.  Simple.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 21:32 | 2560183 nmewn
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I gave him a red for even implying Syria had an air defense to test...with a F-4


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:58 | 2559074 Seer
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Actually, the US has the best propaganda that money can buy.

At this point the US is saying very little.  The US is waiting for the NATO angle to finish fermenting before it starts tipping its party hat...

If I were to blanket all that's fucked I'd put it thusly: POWER LIES; and "money" brings power; therefore, the biggest lies can be found behind the most "money," and with the US holding the world's only printing press, well...

Anyway, I take it you don't watch Dancing with the Stars? </sarc>

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 16:13 | 2559321 Liquid Courage
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American propaganda is designed for the express and only  purpose of fooling Americans, so naturally it has to be very sophisticated indeed.

Need I say </sarc>?

(Present company excepted, of course.)

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 16:30 | 2559376 akak
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US citizens love their drama

And Chinese Citizenism citizens love their dogma (perferably stir-fried with garlic and ginger).

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 19:22 | 2559875 TheFourthStooge-ing
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akak said:

And Chinese Citizenism citizens love their dogma (perferably stir-fried with garlic and ginger).

Indeed one must having great behold of glorious Chinese citizenism new invention for make the automizing of stir-fry cookery above noted. Invention product automizer being called now marketed today the Dogmatic. Muchly advanced stir-fry cookery now requiring of very little effortations, even when endeavoring cook by the pound.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 21:29 | 2560165 akak
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But this novel thing of now making the Dogmatic, too able the doing with suchlike Chinese delicaticies so as the lucky human fetus soup, frying bear penis, kitten McNuggets and wolf nipple chips?  Oh, the Dangdang yumyum!  Or you are do simply the throating of the idea?  Usefulicity of technoillogical wonder this being not many if not the blobbing-up of all cookery leading there, monolizing the cooking means shoulding be goal inspired to desirable.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 23:26 | 2560479 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Wording of mind muchly being inhere expressioned with audacion.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:21 | 2558603 papaswamp
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Better get the chase lounge dried off and brought inside....popcorn into microwave..

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:25 | 2558605 PaperBear
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So their hand was only uninvitedly up the skirt for 5 minutes is supposed to make it fine, is that how we should understand this bulls**t ?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:32 | 2558654 nonclaim
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This "it was already out when you caught me" excuse has a lot of uses...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 14:12 | 2558856 Sofa King Confused
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International waters, and airspace are only 12 miles off the coast.  So a Turkish F4 traveling at 1500 miles per hour in five minutes can travel 125 miles.  An F4 has a top speed of Mach 2.2.  If you dont want to get shot at while you are doing recon for the US better know where you are at all times.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 17:12 | 2559499 Overflow-admin
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Once again F-4 top speed at Sea level is only 1.18 Mach

Try to figure also top speed of airline crashing on 9/11

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:00 | 2559084 Seer
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Only a little pregnant, what's the big deal? </sarc>

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:49 | 2559252 mick_richfield
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Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:22 | 2558606 smb12321
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Turkey, you have gone from being the pro-Iranian, anti-Israeli hero of ZH to the shithouse.  Get your act in order or risk an Illuminati takeover.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:50 | 2558733 i-dog
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"or risk an Illuminati takeover"

Too late!

Indeed, Turkey was the pont of origin of both the Sabbatean and Frankist luciferians (and the first place the Khazars took over before heading for Egypt, then Israel, thousands of years ago).

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:53 | 2558756 prole
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Well what are your next plans master? Instead of just regurgitating the same old zioprop, why not clue us in? We have got an official rep here chatting with us..... What will you do next master?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:22 | 2558607 zilverreiger
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Mon, 06/25/2012 - 15:34 | 2559210 Diet Coke and F...
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Wasn't that a recient IPO? :P

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:22 | 2558609 slewie the pi-rat
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try it again tomorrow?


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:22 | 2558610 duckarooni
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War! lsn't it exciting, Scarlett? -We'll show 'em. -Fiddle-dee-dee!

(gone with the wind 1939)

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:22 | 2558611 pods
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Do you think Greece would help the next time Turkey tries to quietly penetrate Syria without forewarning?


Mon, 06/25/2012 - 13:22 | 2558612 bugs_
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that was never 5 minutes just now

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