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Turkey's Entire Armed Forces Resign En Masse

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Just to make things a little more interesting, and better for Greece, we have learned of a shocking mass resignation by virtually all of Turkey's armed forces. According to Reuters: "The head of the Turkish armed forces General Isik Kosaner along with the heads of the ground, naval and air forces have resigned, broadcaster CNN Turk reported on Friday. The reason for their resignations was not immediately clear. Tensions between the military and the government of Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan have been high in recent years and the Supreme Military Council was due to hold a major meeting next week."  We have also learned that the Turkish AKP government is planning to hand over its struggle against the PKK to local police forces. In essence, Turkey is now effectiely defenseless. This is the perfect time for Greece to invade Turkey, and promptly flip it to the Fourth Reich in exchange for some debt forgiveness. There you go: we can spin idiotic things like the best of CNBC too.

 

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Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:49 | 1505071 Caviar Emptor
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The archduke will visit Sarajevo tomorrow...just for a leisurely visit

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:32 | 1505297 bigdumbnugly
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Turkey's Entire Armed Forces Resign En Masse

 

i wonder if they blocked traffic as they ambled their way across the road.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 14:04 | 1505741 gmrpeabody
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You mean they just up and quit cold turkey?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:51 | 1505374 Goatboy
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Or Banja Luka this time?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:49 | 1505073 Ahmeexnal
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Kurdish Homeland!!!!

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 15:20 | 1505095 GoinFawr
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Hahaha! Never happen, they don't have the lobbyists in Washington.

PS (OT) Sac, please remove the borders from the avatars. Leave them around the comments if you must, but for the love of jebus let the avatars hang free.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:23 | 1505256 Gully Foyle
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Not sure if this is significant

http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/2011/07/july-28-2011-real-black-re...

The recent accident -and its consequences- at the Vasilikos power station on the Mediterranean island(-state) of Cyprus, forever torn between its Greek and it Turkish parts, would certainly seem to meet this definition of a black swan event.

Vasilikos is the newest power station on Cyprus, which joined the EU in 2004 and adopted the Euro in 2008. The station is primarily powered by steam generated by heavy fuel oil, with some gas turbines. Though operating, it was still partly under construction when the accident happened.

At 05:50 EEST (02:50 UTC), on July 11, 2011, there was a huge explosion at the nearby Evangelos Florakis Naval Base. Wikipedia describes just how black this swan is:

In open storage on the base were 98 containers of explosives that had been seized by the United States Navy in 2009 after it intercepted a Cypriot-flagged, Russian owned vessel, the MV Monchegorsk, travelling from Iran to Syria in the Red Sea. According to leaked US cables through WikiLeaks, released in 2011, the US through Hillary Clinton exerted pressure on Cyprus to confiscate the shipment.

The ship was escorted to a Cypriot port and the Cyprus Navy was given responsibility for the explosives, which it moved to the Evangelos Florakis a month later.[9] At the time of the incident in 2011, the explosives had apparently been left in the open for over two years.

The Cypriot government had declined offers from Germany, the United Kingdom and the United States to remove or dispose of the material, having feared an adverse reaction from Syria. The government had instead requested that the UN effect the removal, but claimed that its request had been rejected.

Tell me, which writer can make that up and live? Iranian munitions destined for Syria on board a Russian vessel under a Cypriot flag, confiscated under American pressure and dragged al the way from the Red Sea to Cyprus. And that are then stored in the open for two years in sometimes high temperatures (40C, or 104F, right now), because nobody wants to touch them. And then proceed to blow up the country's main power station.

The explosion killed 13 people and wounded over 60. The official cause given is self-detonation of the munitions, according to Wikipedia. Hard to gauge how reliable that is.

While large parts of the over 800,000 strong Cypriot population, as well as its business community and -particularly important- tourism industry, are now subject to (rolling) blackouts, the Vasilikos damage may, according to estimates, take two years and €2.4 billion to repair. The €2.4 billion constitutes about 14% of Cyprus €17 billion ($23.8 billion) annual GDP.

Cyprus was already under financial scrutiny, for a number of reasons. First, Its banking system is "roughly nine times GDP". Second, that system is relatively heavily (33% of GDP) invested in Greek sovereign debt, and has also lent out a lot of money to Greek businesses and individuals. And third, a lot of the foreign deposits flowing in are from Russia, which uses the island as a gateway to Europe.

Just yesterday, under intense pressure from the people, who want anyone even remotely responsible for the explosion out, the Cypriot government, led by the Communist party, and already unpopular before the incident because of -what else?- austerity measures, resigned.

This happened not along after Moody's downgraded Cyprus bonds, which were already under pressure due to the Greek debt holdings, and are now vying for par with Irish and Portuguese bonds. And rising.

After Ireland, Greece (2x) and Portugal, Cyprus is therefore set to become the fourth EU member to need a bail-out. It's small one, for sure, but it might still whip up resistance against the EU/ECB/IMF troika policies well beyond its size.

And it took a black swan to push it over the edge, one in which energy and finance combine in a realistic way, none of that silly 'peak oil leads to peak debt' stuff, and one that paints in glaring detail where the vulnerabilities of our societies may lie. That is to say, where we least expect them.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:35 | 1505310 Use of Weapons
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Yes, it is significant.

On Monday, July 11, the gunpowder in these containers was ignited by a brush fire and exploded. Thirteen Cypriots were killed in this massive explosion and fire, including the commander of the Cypriot navy, Andreas Ioannides, and the commander of the base, Lambros Lambrou. The explosion also damaged the most important power plant in Cyprus, which normally supplies 60 percent of the electricity for the island, causing wide-spread blackouts, reducing water supply, and threatening the nation’s economy.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2011-07-18/pdf/CREC-2011-07-18.pdf

 

I'll top that though -

 

A blast early Friday hit a pipeline carrying natural gas from Iran to Turkey, forcing a cut in supply, an Iranian oil official said.

"The export of gas to Turkey has been temporarily halted after an explosion struck the pipeline" in northwestern Iran, spokesman for National Iranian Gas Company (NIGC) Majid Boujarzadeh told the oil ministry's news agency SHANA.

http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFL6E7IT04A20110729

 

My nose is wiggling.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:42 | 1505348 Spirit Of Truth
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Let's throw this in too boot:

 


Senior Israeli, US Intelligence Figures Warn of Israeli Attack Against Iran

http://www.truth-out.org/senior-israeli-us-intelligence-figures-warn-israeli-attack-against-iran/1311796492

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 15:01 | 1505968 Cathartes Aura
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mine too - that explosion Gully linked happened on 7.11.11.

those of us who take note of significant "dates" also notice the pattern telegraphed.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 18:32 | 1506674 Scalaris
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The reasons behind "divisions" between Turkey's government and its top military chiefs resignations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergenekon_(organization)

 

Also, in case anyone wonders about Cyprus / Turkey current relationship : http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=39142&Cr=cyprus&Cr1= ;

I remember 7 years ago when I was starting my two-year army service two administrations ago, the turkish-cypriot borders opened-up for both sides and Cypriots rushed into every single casino and holiday resort in the turkish side like there was no tomorrow, and everyone from the lowest socioeconomic denomination to the fairly high political classes were seen there numerous times. There were times when I was on a watching tower duty every two hours for 18 hours during the summer due to insufficient man-power along the "green line" , "safeguarding" our sovereign integrity while I was listening live music from the other side where Cypriots & Turkish-Cypriots were singing drunk at 3 in the morning. How's that for irony. 7 years later and Cypriots are demonstrating about the rampant costs from healthcare spending on Turkish-Cypriots who come to the Greek side for treatment.

Hindsight's a cold-hearted bitch as they say.

Regarding the awful & tragic accident who claimed many lives and cost Cyprus its main energy source, which was the relatively new Vasilikos power station leaving us with daily blackouts, an extra €2.5 billion euro bill on top of our not tremendous greek debt exposure, sending thusly the famous IMF bat-signal and an open invitation for our favourite credit rating houses and their further downgrades; it was entirely our president's fault and his bewildering foreign policy which coupled with the rest of his cabinet's sensational lack of professionalism and immense amateurism resulted in their political tour-de-force vis-à-vis a clusterfuck of epic proportions and a country in disarray asking for everyone's resignation.

Further reading:

 

 

 

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 13:32 | 1505584 Chief KnocAHoma
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"We were promised payment in fine Turkish hash not worthless dollars. We quit and will soon be working for Snoop Dog."

I am The Chief

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:50 | 1505075 MFL8240
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All 10 of them?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:52 | 1505089 marcusfenix
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third largest armed forces in NATO, so a little more than 10...

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:57 | 1505123 equity_momo
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...and rising. Turkey has one of the fastest growing military and they love to spend on it like a Drunken Bernanke in a Jackson Hole brothel.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:50 | 1505077 marcusfenix
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that's bad...

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:16 | 1505215 Alienated Serf
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Just to give you some background on the Turkish military situation; they originally asked for Edrogan to appoint Gen Hasan Igsiz as chief.  He rejected him:

"Gen Hasan Igsiz was initially proposed but was blocked by the government because he was named in connection with an alleged 2003 plot.

The alleged conspiracy was drawn up at the Istanbul base of the First Army, shortly after the governing AK Party came to power.

It reportedly involved plans to bomb mosques and provoke tensions with Greece, in order to spark political chaos and justify a military takeover."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14346325

False flag on the way bitchez

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:21 | 1505245 Oh regional Indian
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Nice Alienated S, thanks for that backgrounder. Still, high weirdness abounds!

ORI

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:50 | 1505373 Alienated Serf
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Sure thing ORI.

People need to read up on Attaturk and the role of the military there enforcing "secularism."

 

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 14:35 | 1505861 Oh regional Indian
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Indeed Alienated one. In fact, Attaturk's secularism was one of the greatest Social Engineering, culture destroying scams in history. 

On a flight from Dubai to London, a cracked wind-shiled put us down in Istanbul.

I saw enough secularizing guns in the airport alone to tell me how it was there. And this was 1995.

ORI

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 14:58 | 1505953 dpr10
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scam haa read up a little...watched too much midnight express ha eyhhhh....ignorant people like you who have smtg to say about athing wanna make me puke...

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 12:51 | 1507829 Ahmeexnal
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Indeed it was Ori.

Ataturk was placed by the british. He delivered the Mosul oil rich fields into the hands of the empire.

A picture is worth a thousand words: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MustafaKemalAtaturk.jpg

He certainly looks like a british bank teller, doesn't he?

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 12:32 | 1509891 e-recep
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and you look like a hairy bear that lives in the mountainous southeastern parts of turkey. does that make you an anglophile?

it was sultan vahdettin, the last ottoman emperor and ataturk's enemy, who sucked british balls. just look up in what vessel he left istanbul and stop spewing garbage around.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:50 | 1505079 Fidel Sarcastro
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"There you go: we can spin idiotic things like the best of CNBC too."

Muuuhhahahahahaaaaaaa....CLASSIC!

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 13:07 | 1505460 NotApplicable
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But can they do it with a straight face, like say, Steve Lies-man does?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:51 | 1505080 magpie
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Byzantium, bitchez

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:58 | 1505129 bania
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Make love not war, bitchez

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:16 | 1505221 High Plains Drifter
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orthodoxy covets constantinople again........

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:24 | 1505257 Oh regional Indian
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Orthodoxy covets the earth, which refuses to be bound. Orthodoxy covets all people. A bit easier to bind, but getting restless.

Trouble, in the end, is that orthodoxy provides a modicum of stability in chaotic times. So, strangely enough, with every huge shift, they come out stronger.

Oxy morons!

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/07/27/pre-cursor/


Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:51 | 1505082 Mercury
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The largest standing army in Europe (by far) suddenly headless....what could possibly go wrong?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:57 | 1505122 Ahmeexnal
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Turkey is the largest standing army in Europe?  I thought it was China.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:02 | 1505153 Ghordius
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No, the strongest military presence in Europe is the ol' USA.

The strongest fleeet in the Med is of course the American 6th.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:04 | 1505165 AnAnonymous
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US citizens are fast to withdraw themselves from such list.

US citizens have not empowered any army to stand on foreign grounds. US citizens would not allow that, it is contrary to their principles.

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 14:06 | 1507950 Bwahaha WAGFDSMB
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Hahaha haha hahahahaha. Thanks.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:26 | 1505265 Oh regional Indian
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Humphhhh! Funny and trueish. What about Russia though. He who controls heating oil/gas controls the EU, ne? I mean, what will they spending their money on come septembrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr?

ORI

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 14:05 | 1505742 markar
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last I checked, China's not in Europe

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:51 | 1505083 Lobbelt
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Turkey* is now effectively defenseless!

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:51 | 1505085 Cassandra Syndrome
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Bunch of Turkeys....

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:58 | 1505128 Ghordius
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Careful, it's a staunch NATO ally, the fastest growing economy in the region and it's people LOVE GOLD.

In fact, the average Turkish gentleman buys every year 16 times more gold then the average American gentleman.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:30 | 1505287 schoolsout
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16 x 0 = 0?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:35 | 1505312 Ghordius
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Ok, ok, it's not much. In 2008, it was 3 grams per person per year - that's one tenth of an ounce.
The Turkish "consumption", that is. They buy jewelry by the weight.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 13:38 | 1505633 DosZap
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Ghord,

That means they buy 1.6 pennyweight.

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 06:54 | 1507447 StormShadow
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Yes, and they wear every ounce of it in the multiple gold chains around their neck, nestled into salt n pepper chest fur

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:51 | 1505086 JimRogers
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Turkey's beneath it's 2000 year SMA of geopolitical swagger. A good value...

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:51 | 1505087 Stuart
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"In essence, Greece is now effectiely defenseless"

 

You mean, Turkey is now effectively defenseless....

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:52 | 1505088 r101958
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This is a first: Turkey = Black swan.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:52 | 1505090 Long-John-Silver
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Watch General Isik Kosaner take control of the government in a coup d'état during that meeting next week.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:52 | 1505091 GeneMarchbanks
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Incomplete. There is more to this than people understand.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:56 | 1505118 VisualCSharp
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Care to enlighten us all? :)

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:13 | 1505203 Ghordius
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He probably means that the Obama Presidency is busy since a while pissing off the Turkish Government. Which is sad.

Turkey has been now since decades a good friend of both the USA and the EU, but some buttheads have a problem with it...

You should see what kind of bases and intel equipment the US has in Turkey. Impressive...

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:52 | 1505092 SparkySC
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Hookah sales suddenly sky-rocket!

 

 

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:53 | 1505093 tercosi
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a post with USDTRY 5 minute chart will be much more meaningful.''Update:The generals say they've not resigned they request their retirement right'' but still this is a mass.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:53 | 1505094 tercosi
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a post with USDTRY 5 minute chart will be much more meaningful.''Update:The generals say they've not resigned they request their retirement right'' but still this is a mass.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:54 | 1505103 Temporalist
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I think this is in protest to the Cenk guy leaving NBC...

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:54 | 1505105 fuu
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Umm wtf?!?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:54 | 1505107 caerus
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this is bullish for butterball

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:54 | 1505108 Josh Randall
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WOW - top brass in the military taking a principled stance on something ?! Thats  a new one

In related news, Turkey is part of NATO so they will have the US, France and the rest of the nWo to protect them and viciously attack people for no reason on their behalf anyway.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:55 | 1505111 Wolf in the Wilds
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That cannot be good news.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:58 | 1505112 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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USD vs CNY inverse 1:1 this morn.  Turkey is going to play a pivital role in the upcoming New World Order.  Geographically, it and Israel control the imports from East to West across Eurasia.  Turkey has more sway than anyone knows, or at least, would like to admit.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:56 | 1505114 UGrev
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They were psyched out by a Large Wooden Rabbit. 

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:56 | 1505117 THEOKOLES
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Der Führer wäre stolz!

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 11:58 | 1505126 JLee2027
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Touche on the CNBC comment!  I had to shut it off this morning - I went into propoganda overload after listening to 10 days of one talking head after another babbling about the imminent  debt deal which is not - if ever - happening.

 

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:35 | 1505313 PulauHantu29
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But really, any minute now.......really.....wait here it comes....Oh wait, that's a Bullet Train coming this way!!!!!!

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:01 | 1505139 savagegoose
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just cuz they resigned doesnt mean they gave back their, guns, or tanks or planes.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:02 | 1505151 Hammurabi
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does not work, moderate army and fascist governement, Erdogan and Gul are Nazis

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:04 | 1505159 slaughterer
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Tyler, a little coverage of the Lockhardt speech today is sorely needed on ZH. 

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 14:15 | 1505783 Fanakapan
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Why Nazi's ??  because they wont play nice with the Jewboys ?????

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:03 | 1505154 lolmao500
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Won't be long before Tayip gets the boot.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:04 | 1505163 viahj
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are these resignations also aacompanied with a "stand down" order, to say...their air defense?  that would open up a path for Israeli jets into Iran.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:49 | 1505369 lolmao500
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Yeah right. Israeli jets would have to travel 2000 km just to reach Tehran... Better to use Saudi airspace or Iraqi airspace instead...

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 13:32 | 1505586 HungrySeagull
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Actually it takes about 1.5 hours to reach Iran Airspace. There are 4 possible ingress routes.

I developed a 5th which will take time to establish and strike from much closer and will not speak of it here.

 

Turkey will find a way to sort thier issues in time.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 20:48 | 1506964 BigJim
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I developed a 5th which will take time to establish and strike from much closer and will not speak of it here.

Does it involve a DeLorean?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:04 | 1505164 anony
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Ummmm...how does the army get paid?  Will their resignations mean they don't eat, or do they just use their weaponry to take what they want?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:11 | 1505189 cbaba
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There is a battle between the Army and the Religious AKP, they hate each other... This may end badly, Army may take over..we will see ..

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:10 | 1505190 Islandcarl
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This is very bad news for the Republic of Cyprus. How long will the Turkish army put up with the procrastination of the Greek Cypriots and decide upon a "foreign adventure"?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:11 | 1505196 CHARLIE.DONT.SERF
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If only we were so lucky.

We'd solve 1/3 of our budget problem.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:12 | 1505201 Gohn Galt
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Did anybody hear anymore about joint military excercises in Boston and the surrounding New England area?  Who won?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:18 | 1505225 Ahmeexnal
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The Celtics won.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:18 | 1505230 Shylockracy
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Way to go, Erdogan. Hopefully you will manage to hunt down all these Ergenekon/dönmeh rats.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 14:40 | 1505881 dpr10
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hey you ahol why dont i bash your face in and send you where erdogan will go sooner or later...you will be licking some boots sooner or later dushebagggg...

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 15:34 | 1506099 Shylockracy
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Duly noted.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 20:51 | 1506968 BigJim
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You're not Turkish by any chance?

Lovely people, in my experience. Just don't criticise Turkey, Attaturk, or anything the Ottoman empire did within their hearing.

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 02:23 | 1507351 Ahmeexnal
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millions of dead armenians would find your description of Turks as "lovely people" debatable

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 08:36 | 1507499 BigJim
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Most Germans are lovely people too, but 'they' killed more people than the Turks did. And they did this only half a century ago, which was a half century after the Turks let rip.

I doubt any of the Turks who took part slaughtering the Armenians are still alive today.... but if you believe in cross-generational guilt, that's up to you.

Who did your ancestors slaughter, by the way?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:19 | 1505235 Dr. Engali
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Obummer will send in the drones to take over.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:21 | 1505239 Version 7
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Do they expect to find a job in Greece?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:21 | 1505244 molecool
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Fourth Reich? Only an idiot would write something like that. Second time this week by the way.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 15:16 | 1506035 Terminus C
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You don't have much understanding of geopolitics or history do you...?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 20:52 | 1506969 BigJim
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... or humour

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:22 | 1505246 ivana
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New state Kurdistan will appear after all this rumble ends. Unfortunatelly, real rumble didn't even start yet

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:22 | 1505248 ivana
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New state Kurdistan will appear after all this rumble ends. Unfortunatelly, real rumble didn't even start yet

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 15:32 | 1506095 Dirt Rat
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Turkey's treatment of its indigenous Kurdish population is no less reprehensible than Saddam's poison gas attacks against Iraq's Kurds. Turkey is just more subtle in its harrassment.

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 00:07 | 1507244 delacroix
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dig a little deeper. it was the iranians,attacking iraqi's, operating from that area. their intel was a little stale, and the kurds paid the price.  we knew what saddam had in his arsenal, we sold most of it to him, and monitored  his other purchases. the specific gas used, was something else.  ( this is to the best of my knowledge. it could be inaccurate)

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:27 | 1505277 iDealMeat
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5 Bucks says the US Nationalizes Turkey. Perfect presence for the empire.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:30 | 1505292 Sledge
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Maybe America's castrated military leaders (not its soldiers) can take a hike too. They have stood by and watched as foreign banks and the UN have dictated the path of the nation. When will our military intervene?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:41 | 1505343 Bastiat
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When they stop getting paid?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:33 | 1505304 PulauHantu29
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Why now? Why is the secular-leaning military resigning now? Theories?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:45 | 1505360 Silver Dreamer
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A regional war is about to break out, and Turkey's government would be an ally against Iran?  It's just a wild and crazy thought...

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:36 | 1505315 Leo Kolivakis
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News flash, Turkish soldiers are partying it up in Mykonos with their Greek counterparts!!! :p

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:39 | 1505338 gwar5
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.

 

good times!

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:54 | 1505388 Juan Wild
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Opah! the greeks and turks are fine people. As a matter of fact all people are fine people. Its just the chains of usury that make us fight! Pass the Gyros and Kofte and salata and bira.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 13:16 | 1505510 slewie the pi-rat
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the pride of the Green Machine is reflected in the Army tradition that we never retreat;  however, an order to "advance to the rear" is never questioned!

these poor turkish ground pounders were ordered to desert by their officers!  they look like reasonable troopers to me, and may salute sharply to an order to return to duty once the libya crap and back pay issues get settled. 

if these guys have credit cards, we could have multiple revolutionary sequences of volcanic eruptions resulting in a tsunami of...

...children...?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 13:03 | 1505434 Leo Kolivakis
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More good times!

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 14:17 | 1505790 Econophile
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Leo, one of your best posts ever!

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 03:26 | 1507387 Jalaluddin
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Better to be stood down than to be stood up?

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:38 | 1505332 gwar5
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That's not good. I think the military was fairly secular, like Egypt. 

Is the increasingly shariah devout government purging their military of secularists? Is this a further movement towards the Muslim Brotherhood with crackdowns on non-muslims imminent? We live in interesting times.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:45 | 1505361 Bastiat
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Purge may well be going the other way.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 14:10 | 1505767 Dr Bob
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I have had my eye on turkey for years. this could be a major development in some things to come. the military used to keep the gov in check. with their resignation could this mean that the AKP, which hates Israel, gets to put some leadership that will do their bidding? i dont know, but i do know that turkey is going to one day attack Israel along with some other countries in that region. i believe that this could be that set up. well i guess time will tell and its going to be interesting to watch. so hold on to your hats and glasses folks cause things could really start to get crazy.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 21:00 | 1506975 BigJim
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Fri, 07/29/2011 - 20:57 | 1506976 BigJim
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No state will ever attack Israel - they're a nuclear power.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 14:10 | 1505768 Dr Bob
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I have had my eye on turkey for years. this could be a major development in some things to come. the military used to keep the gov in check. with their resignation could this mean that the AKP, which hates Israel, gets to put some leadership that will do their bidding? i dont know, but i do know that turkey is going to one day attack Israel along with some other countries in that region. i believe that this could be that set up. well i guess time will tell and its going to be interesting to watch. so hold on to your hats and glasses folks cause things could really start to get crazy.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:59 | 1505408 slewie the pi-rat
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don't tell me!  no one could have seen this coming, right?  no one!

turkey = NATO member

google "turkish troops in libya" and read the selection headlines and the dates for a few pages.

these turks may not be as gung-ho about maniacal defense of the homeland and they are pissed off at the NATO bombings. 

in 1911 a captain Kamal, later known as "ataturk" joined libya in a losing war against italy.  i guess the sahara is a fun place to fight.  there are pictures of people dropping bombs from dirigibles, and the first airplane was used for re-con, and later, first airplane bomb ever dropped was on libyans and proabably turks, too, who may have been amazed at how hard it was to shoot the damned plane! 

TAKE THIS JOB AND SHOVE IT!!!

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 13:09 | 1505468 citrine
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Tyler,

We greatly appreciate your ability to spin idiotic things like the best of CNBC. Even greater we appreciate your ability to deliver us other news in an unbiased and entertaining manner.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 13:13 | 1505490 Syrin
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O_o

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 13:25 | 1505562 bugs_
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and after they resign they best move their families to germany

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 13:31 | 1505582 Segestan
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Probably told Turkey would fight with Iran and China... Staff said.. FU.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 13:52 | 1505690 KeyserSoze
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You do realise the Turks view the US as their single biggest threat to national security.... right? Most Turks view the US as a bigger enemy to Turkey than Israel.

The days of the Turks being lackeys in the NATO brigade are long gone. Turkey sees that the EU is collapsing and wants very little to do with it anymore. It wants to be a leader in a future post-US Middle East and Central Asia, with access to vast mineral wealth. It has increasing ties with China, economically and militarily and even sees eye to eye with Russia on many issues.

Turkey is also increasingly more closer aligned to China and has good ties with Iran.

The Military and the Government just had a showdown and the Military lost. GOOD.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 13:35 | 1505611 DosZap
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HOW does a nations armed forces RESIGN?

Soldiers usually have no choice once IN.(regular grunts).

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 13:41 | 1505651 KeyserSoze
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GOOD. Turkey is now officially no longer a "military junta controlled State".

The whole conflict between the Turkish govt and its military is over control of the nation, one which has been dominated in stealth by the Armed Forces in Turkey.

The tensions took a whole new level when just 2 years ago the Turkish govt uncovered plots stretching back to 2002 for the Turkish Military to commit a FALSE FLAG ATTACK. They were gonna hijack a Greek airliner, crash it and blame it on the "Muslims" to further extent a military clampdown in the country.

Yes folks you read that right, the Turkish govt actively uncovered and exposed a disgusting Turkish military false flag attack. It resulted in many quitting their job and arrests.

If politicians in the US and EU had the same balls to go after the corruption in the Finanacial sector and in the Military Industrial Complex, these countries may not be on the path to self destruction that they are on.

It's time to stand up and take a decisive stand againt tyranny. And if that means making the military step down (at least symbolically), then so be it.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 13:03 | 1509969 e-recep
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Yes, Turkey is no longer "military junta controlled State", it has become a Jemaat controlled State. You illiterates will sooner or later know about it.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 13:45 | 1505665 KeyserSoze
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Most don't seem to understand that the seat of corruption in Turkey is with the Military far more so than the government.

In this situation it really is the Turkish government which is the "good" guys. At least in uncovering corruption, which is angering the Turkish military.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 14:25 | 1505765 Monedas
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Nice try, Tyler ! Look what you stirred up with your minions ? Don't encourage them ! Better leave the sarcastic humour to the professionals ! Monedas 2011 Comedy Jihad World Tour

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 14:16 | 1505789 Econophile
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Greece couldn't invade the suburbs of Athens if it wanted to.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 21:29 | 1507012 Beancounter
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Rarely has the summary of an article made me laugh out loud and wake up my sleeping kid. Fuck ZH. just fuck.  Now i've got to get her back to sleep... damn you and good night.

 

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 21:29 | 1507015 Beancounter
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Rarely has the summary of an article made me laugh out loud and wake up my sleeping kid. Fuck ZH. just fuck.  Now i've got to get her back to sleep... damn you and good night.

 

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 00:15 | 1507250 JOYFUL
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It's about the gold. After the Turks were suckered into the Libya disaster with the usual buffet of carrot&stick  by their NATO 'partners' they sequestered a huge chuck of GDAFF's liquid assets in the bank. That was supposed to be the final coup de grace for the slippery goose, who has now slipped the noose and turned tables on the gangstas!  No loot, no oil, no mo rebels paychecks, nuthin...and the Turks stiffed again!

"When I give my word, I expect you to keep it." (Banker Drysdale-Beverly Hillbillies)Banksta Bomba jist shafted the rubes one too many times. 

.DC debt farce is a side show to the main event. EuroMerikas' checking account is frozen...until they agree to take out Tehran. After decades of throwing widows out in the street, Mr Drysdale is sleeping in the Chevrolet himself.

Turks are now open to offers from new-old friends. But no fiat please! Blown pipelines clear the sinus's quickly. Army high command is having a discussion with the NATO pricks what bluffed them out again.  They'll be back by next Thursday. Groundhog day.

GOLD. Black is the new yellow. Jed Clampett owns the bank now. Nate n Friends can chew on day old possum!

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 00:21 | 1507262 Pancho3
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I wonder if that was the real reason:

http://gsn.nti.org/gsn/nw_20110726_2542.php

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 00:21 | 1507263 Pancho3
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I wonder if that was the real reason:

http://gsn.nti.org/gsn/nw_20110726_2542.php

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 06:04 | 1507338 CPL
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Nope, other things are going on.

 

If you are under the age of 35, you are screwed, no matter on how many kids you have, man or woman.  All covenants have been broken.  Nothing you can do towards this in the real new year of the fall.  People settle, start a new school, buy a house, finish their crop.

 

Anyone under that age will be called upon for a war that will use nukes mainly because of too many people on the planet.  I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago on what the fuck was happening in Turkey.  Turkey's army is now on side of the "other side", since the ECB has done such as AWESOME job of screwing anyone from Greece, the Turkish Military heads quit because of the strong arm shit the US core was putting on them.  Essentially they were asking to invade Greece.

 

They told the USO to fuck itself and quit in disgust.  Yes there was a Junta, but the guy that started that is LONG dead.  but the central banks moved in and pushed a little too hard.  If the USO wants to know where the Greek Military and Turkish army is.  They are drinking in the same tent after being asked to kill their friendly neighbours on the American Command. 

 

The Chinese have gone in and offered support.  The 6th currently floating no where near Japan is in the Gulf will be the first strike.  It will appear like a somali attack, they will kill anything that walks on shore.  The guy that killed people in Norway will be redeployed to something else  (no clue...he's actually from the US...nice picture framing non?  He's one of me, another diplomat brat, we will kill him dead when he's seen and make sure his mother know nothing...his sister is dead from a junkie trip.  His mum is a nice lady that doesn't know what day it is.  Scott come home...Chris and Ino have something to say to you.  Time to stop and get your ass back home to family.).

 

We are heading into WW3, this time the war is going to be fought with nukes.  7 billion humans confirmed, to keep oil running we need to lose around 6 billion.   Since none of the Anonymous have access to those techs in the US, it's a guess on how it is going to start in the US.  Since the Chinese have sloppy security and piss poor building skills, the understanding is around October..Russian Anons are confirming as well that is when all readiness has to be.

It struck me as odd that Ottawa, Calgary, Montreal and Winnipeg are getting hit in the scrum, but...oh well.  Central locations are getting hit.  basically the bread baskets, but in usual civil servant retardation they neglected to understand that's when the crop come up.  I'm actually hoping they strike then so bread becomes gold.  I hope someone on the outskirts can made something of nothing because that is what is coming.

 

Morons playing pretend about money that never existed, for a law that was never followed and a military honour never found.  That's the future unless something changes quickly.

 

I WANT the us to throw itself into a Military dictatorship from the bottom of the military on up.  That way only.  Bottom up, privates convince the sergeant, sergeant convinces the lieutenant, etc.  it is the only way you will see you family and friends by Xmas.

 

Otherwise..Israel is in big trouble and anyone in Israel should run to the other side of the planet.  The Irish have more seers than old inbred men btw.

 

actually Scott kill everything around you and show the world what a dip brat is made of.   They were only helping too much.  We are third culture kids.  Get your ass back to base play time with Mormons is over.

 

 

There we go.  Come on home to the invisible.

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 08:30 | 2257166 Vigilante
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Keep takin the medications...

It's just a phase.

 

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 02:10 | 1507339 CPL
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Nope, other things are going on.

 

If you are under the age of 35, you are screwed, no matter on how many kids you have, man or woman.  All covenants have been broken.  Nothing you can do towards this in the real new year of the fall.  People settle, start a new school, buy a house, finish their crop.

 

Anyone under that age will be called upon for a war that will use nukes mainly because of too many people on the planet.  I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago on what the fuck was happening in Turkey.  Turkey's army is now on side of the "other side", since the ECB has done such as AWESOME job of screwing anyone from Greece, the Turkish Military heads quit because of the strong arm shit the US core was putting on them.  Essentially they were asking to invade Greece.

 

They told the USO to fuck itself and quit in disgust.  Yes there was a Junta, but the guy that started that is LONG dead.  but the central banks moved in and pushed a little too hard.  If the USO wants to know where the Greek Military and Turkish army is.  They are drinking in the same tent after being asked to kill their friendly neighbours on the American Command. 

 

The Chinese have gone in and offered support.  The 6th currently floating no where near Japan is in the Gulf will be the first strike.  It will appear like a somali attack, they will kill anything that walks on shore.  The guy that killed people in Norway will be redeployed to something else  (no clue...he's actually from the US...nice picture framing non?  He's one of me, another diplomat brat, we will kill him dead when he's seen and make sure his mother know nothing...his sister is dead from a junkie trip.  His mum is a nice lady that doesn't know what day it is.  Scott come home...Chris and Ino have something to say to you.  Time to stop and get your ass back home to family.).

 

We are heading into WW3, this time the war is going to be fought with nukes.  7 billion humans confirmed, to keep oil running we need to lose around 6 billion.   Since none of the Anonymous have access to those techs in the US, it's a guess on how it is going to start in the US.  Since the Chinese have sloppy security and piss poor building skills, the understanding is around October..Russian Anons are confirming as well that is when all readiness has to be.

It struck me as odd that Ottawa, Calgary, Montreal and Winnipeg are getting hit in the scrum, but...oh well.  Central locations are getting hit.  basically the bread baskets, but in usual civil servant retardation they neglected to understand that's when the crop come up.  I'm actually hoping they strike then so bread becomes gold.  I hope someone on the outskirts can made something of nothing because that is what is coming.

 

Morons playing pretend about money that never existed, for a law that was never followed and a military honour never found.  That's the future unless something changes quickly.

 

I WANT the us to throw itself into a Military dictatorship from the bottom of the military on up.  That way only.  Bottom up, privates convince the sergeant, sergeant convinces the lieutenant, etc.  it is the only way you will see you family and friends by Xmas.

 

Otherwise..Israel is in big trouble and anyone in Israel should run to the other side of the planet.  The Irish have more seers than old inbred men btw.

 

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 02:38 | 1507363 JOYFUL
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You're getting warm, but first, chew on this http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article29544.html

then digest the fact that the poppy pipeline of hopium has been proppin up the western economies singlehandedly since Sept 08; NATO depends upon the smooth transfer of drugs from Karzai n gang to fund every inch of the mil-ind-complex golem. Paper, scissors, rock...dope wins over arms n oil every time. Till it doesn't anymore...sometime next week.

Turkey controls key territory of that pipeline. And what "Big Jim" Willie recently referred to here as "a little nation that sits on the Southern Mediterranean and looks northwest to Italy" controls the PKK what can dismember the other pipeline of more mainstream material at will...cage match.

Civilian presidency is so last millenium /...junta is the new democracy/

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 05:57 | 1507432 CPL
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no you are going to war if you are a yankee.

 

The last war.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 13:04 | 1509971 Hugh G Rection
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Nope.

 

Not the last war, just that WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones.

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