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    The US, in its own decline, is showing this same self-destructive tendency. The worse things get, the greater the inclination of the citizenry to say, “Carry on, everything’s fine.”

Ugly Close As 30Y TSY Yield Drops Most Since March 2009

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Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:36 | 1829829 malikai
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They're rolling that shit out like it's caviar!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:41 | 1829837 spiral_eyes
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the end of the Keynesian shitheap begins with a treasury slump, continues with a treasury crash, and ends with a default cascade, huge printing, and the death of the dollar.


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:49 | 1829849 Zero Govt
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not Keynes that is failing, nothing whatever to do with this guy

it's the monopoly institution Govt that's failing (again and again and again)... the dumbest fuk idea society ever got suckered into 

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:53 | 1829858 dexter_morgan
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well, not to be picky, but isn't big gov kind of dependent on Keynsian stimulus voodoo economics? Both a major fail!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:13 | 1830708 jeff montanye
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actually big government is dependent on war.  look it up.

keynes offers the mendacious an excuse for lack of prudence, as in "we're all keynesians now".  although he was given to hyperbole: "bury jars of money and pay people to dig them up" or something, the general theory of employment, interest and money in important ways is what wise princes in the bronze age knew: save in times of plenty to be able to spend from stores in times of famine.  

these fools spent from stores in times of plenty.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:36 | 1829831 PaperBear
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Does this mean the sellers of paper gold/silver will be out in force again tomorrow ?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:38 | 1829833 bugs_
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30Y signalling a clear message - just like Dr. Copper.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:46 | 1829842 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

Yes, it is.  

This is a lousy time to be an investor.  Cannot get any yield anywhere (and that is hurting people, myself included, see Bruce Krasting's article above).  Stocks are manipulated and likely to be a trap...  Like apparently Bruce K. has done, Mr. and Mrs. Bearing have cut spending across the board.

And there is more inflation here than .gov lets on.  Liars!  What else is new?

Cash (FRN$) and gold.  Cash and gold.  Along with Pb to defend it.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:10 | 1829885 trav7777
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Tough to get yield?  What did you honestly expect when the economy stopped growing?

Yield isn't free...it comes from growth.

The real problem now for equity investors is the high implied correlation imposed by all the indexmonkey ETFs.  There are alpha plays out there but they get swamped by index moves.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:29 | 1829922 Stax Edwards
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+1 Very true.  Although I might argue it inversely has the effect of creating value via high correlations as well.  Does the truth come out of the wash in time?

I have gone long patience...Scary how broke it sometimes feels in real time though.  These are the new markets.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 20:22 | 1830206 Flakmeister
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Cash flows on hydrocarbon assets.... Oil, NG, Coal....

I don't do coal on principle... but the others are dandy...

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:39 | 1829836 monopoly
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At some point, and I have no idea when, as the market moves lower for a day or two it will continue down in a heart pounding manner and eventually touch reality. How low is that? We will find out.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:41 | 1829838 Irish66
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Who is the UK broker dealer that is in trouble?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:16 | 1829894 common_sense
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so many? 

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:18 | 1829902 Sudden Debt
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Heard the same rumor over here, but it seems to be a scottish broker firm that's in trouble. I wrote it down on a post it at the office... I wonder where i placed it....

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:44 | 1829840 RobotTrader
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Yep, everyone panics into "Paper" at the first sign of any credit problem.

U.S. Dollar, T-Bonds, Munis, money markets, whatever.

Anything but stocks and hard assets or "resource plays".

Amazing how fast they stampeded back into Fiatscos today.

Another 2 days like today, we'll be under 2% on the 10-year again and Tom Keene will be apoplectic again saying "The 10-year is now the 2-year", etc.

If Bernanke doesn't print another trillion ASAP with these absurd low rates, he should be tried for incompetence and dereliction of duty.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:49 | 1829850 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

You called it, credit given where credit is due.  But, I don't trrade, I move slowly...


Bernanke should be tried anyway, along with Corzine.  A two-fer!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:51 | 1829855 dexter_morgan
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Yawn....still waiting for your $20 silver prediction to come true so I can stock up. What has it been 3 or 6 months since you were ejaculating that on here?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:53 | 1829859 camaro68ss
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Your fucking nuts for wanting the bernake to print another trillion but im sure your right in him doing so



Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:12 | 1829888 trav7777
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Nah, he's right.  If the idiot market will letcha, might as well make the hay.

BB will have no choice anyway...interest is eating the money supply and growth and production can't pay the coupon.  To keep it fluffed, like Japan, you have no choice but to inject periodically.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:41 | 1830107 DosZap
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 but im sure your right in him doing so

You better believe he will, and it will be the largest yet.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:40 | 1829949 SwingForce
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Sortable by Column Header ($VOL, % YLD, etc).  Its true, if these fucking idiots want yield, they are running in the wrong direction.  PS- 1 mo' time http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UI2FolId6CA

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:52 | 1829857 kito
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Yep, everyone panics into "Paper" at the first sign of any credit problem.

U.S. Dollar, T-Bonds, Munis, money markets, whatever.



wow robo, thanks for the news, youre hindsight is awe inspiring.......

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:35 | 1830094 DosZap
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Yep, everyone panics into "Paper" at the first sign of any credit problem.

U.S. Dollar, T-Bonds, Munis, money markets, whatever.


because they are CLUELESS, as this is what they are ALL depending on to save their asses.

Instead, it will be their WATERLOO,sooner or later.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:58 | 1829860 mynhair
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Not counting on a continuation Tues.  This pig is fracked.  FOMC meeting.

More Hopium!

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 17:59 | 1829867 RobotTrader
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With zero rates on the short end, I guess Bernanke would rather take his chances and keep rolling over the shorter term debt at zero cost.

Can't blame him.

The appetite for U.S. Confetti is at all time highs and shows no signs of stopping.

Wouldn't surprise me to see the market tank some more to give Bernanke an excuse to "shock" the bears again with some "words"

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:41 | 1829950 maxmad
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Or it could just be that stocks are over-valued...

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:44 | 1829952 SwingForce
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Roll them over, do them again!  (Personal Motto)


Mon, 10/31/2011 - 20:04 | 1830164 DeadFred
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What's the chance that a bunch of these bonds went to Japan? Reports are the sold off 10 trillion yen last night before the peg broke. $125 billion buys a fair number of treasuries.

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 06:15 | 1831051 MFL8240
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Quite the contrary.  The appetite for US confetti was in the sewer till Japan was summoned by this corrupt cartel running America to debase its currency to prop the dollar up.  That is not an appetite that is desperation. And no, the Japenesse are not stupid enough to buy US debt, they have enough of their own debt to monetize.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:07 | 1829880 duncecap rack
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Sorry OT but does anyone know why mbia took off like a rocket at close? I can't find any news.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:14 | 1829893 mynhair
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Short squeeze?

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:14 | 1829892 common_sense
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bearish trap.... mclellan chart even gone up....

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:17 | 1829899 bogey4
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Wells Fargo agreed to withdraw from lawsuits against MBIA...

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 18:44 | 1829953 Caviar Emptor
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Yup. Been sayin it since last week: things are different now. Since March 09 the understanding was that Bernank (and Trichet) had your back if you put money at risk. And that stimulus would emanate from QE and the fiscal side (Obama and Merkozy) forever to give the false cover of fake 'growth'. 

Now that's all over since Greece's haircuts (which portend more) and MF Global's bankruptcy (violating the TBTF principle). 

When the market said "risk on" before this week, it was only a joke. Risk was taken out of the equation. That's what attracted money back in after the 08 bloodbath. But now that risk is real and back in a world full of unpredictables, it changes the tone. 

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:01 | 1830016 eddiebe
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Flip Flop Flip Flop, and each time a bit of cream is siphoned off by the robots for the bankstas. Good luck flipping and surviving this. Maybe buy and hold is back? Long toilet paper, paper towells and low interest fixed gov. loans. 

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:06 | 1830018 virgilcaine
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Its only a matter of time before stocks follow to those levels also. You have to view stocks as a lagging indicator now,  Credit and Base and Precious metals as lei.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:16 | 1830054 razorthin
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Sadly, any benchmarks at vectors that compare to March 2009 are bullish.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:19 | 1830060 msmith
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The EURUSD and the AUDUSD are displaying USD bottoms rather well.  This could very much likely be a significant turn in the markets.  http://bit.ly/ucGTXm

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:19 | 1830061 virgilcaine
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Wait until a few more Banks and primary dealers go bye bye..credit will disappear faster than cash at solyndra.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:46 | 1830117 NotApplicable
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Remember, zero is the only space where infinity can exist. Infinite debt, in this case.

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 19:53 | 1830129 azzhatter
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Ron Paul 2012

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:22 | 1830733 jeff montanye
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paul/johnson '12

Mon, 10/31/2011 - 22:18 | 1830563 mszh
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Tyler can you post 2s10s30s butterfly

Tue, 11/01/2011 - 06:10 | 1831050 MFL8240
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So, I guess this all must make sense to someone, but not me.  The economy is in dire straights, the world will no longer buy our bonds, the Federal Reserve prints money out of thin air to buy 80% of the debt, the same debt bought with wortless money, issued by an insolvent goverment is where to go for protection during times of turmoil?  I guess I'm just lost because this makes no sense to me!

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