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UK Serious Fraud Office To Begin Criminal Probe Into Lieborgate

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And in the meantime, not a peep about any bank in the US, which is ironic considering JPM, Citi and BofA are BBA member banks, and had among the lowest fixing rates during the period in question, and as Bob Diamond himself said, "everyone did it." One may almost get the impression that US regulators and politicians, gasp, have a motive to not investigate banks for not only criminal but civil malfeasance. And why should they: after all there is unlimited taxpayer money. And if that ends, the US can just print some more.

From Reuters:

Britain's fraud-busting agency on Friday said it had agreed to investigate the Libor interest rate-rigging scandal, which on Tuesday led to the departure of Barclays chief executive Bob Diamond.


"The SFO Director David Green QC has today decided formally to accept the Libor matter for investigation," the Serious Fraud Office said in a brief statement.


The SFO said Monday it would decide within a month whether to press criminal charges over the Libor affair, amid concerns banks understated their borrowing costs to make it appear they were in better financial health than they were.


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Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:20 | 2591505 Cdad
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More banker pink slips, please.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:27 | 2591536 CommunityStandard
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Politicians were in on it.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:39 | 2591584 LMAOLORI
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I believe that a bunch of them were bought off by Countrywide 

Wall Street Supporters In Congress Unmoved By Libor Probe


Countrywide used VIP program to sway Congress: report

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 11:10 | 2591921 Popo
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Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government.

-- The Declaration of Independence

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 13:54 | 2592644 IrritableBowels
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“In terms of legislative calendar, it’s late in the clock and there’s not a lot to be done here pre-election,” Mark Calabria, a former Republican Senate Banking Committee aide, said in a telephone interview. “Regardless of what happens at JPMorgan, Congress is leaving at the beginning of August barring the financial system itself actually collapsing. And even then, Congress would probably still take a recess.”


Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:27 | 2591537 SheepRevolution
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Criminal investigation my ass. Bring out the guillotine already.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:00 | 2591663 HoofHearted
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Over/under on the number of people getting charged for this?

I'd go with one...and take the under...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:10 | 2591698 Total Collapse
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Barclays for the best fixed rates:



Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:20 | 2591509 lizzy36
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Perhaps the yank banks are being pursued by the "unserious fraud office" know the SEC.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:23 | 2591525 New_Meat
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liz: ya beat me to it.  Or is the UK bureaucracy stratified into "serious", "so-so", and "garden variety" fraud offices?

- Ned

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:25 | 2591530 Temporalist
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In the US it's the "Really We Are Serious This Time And We Mean It (The Very Second We Stop Watching Leprechaun Nipple Porn) Fraud Office"

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:03 | 2591678 BeetleBailey
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it reminds me of Bugs doing it to Yosemite Sam..."cross DIS line!"

The SEC plays Bugs, and also Sam in this case....bunch of turds.

The You Tube video is a hoot!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:45 | 2591609 DogSlime
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The "Serious" Fraud Office will spend two years investigating and conclude that a successful prosecution would be unlikely.  They usually cite that the case is too complex for a jury to understand.


Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:50 | 2591630 dracos_ghost
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The UK Unserious Fraud Office ... Sounds like a great Monty Python sketch.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:49 | 2591834 Nobody For President
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Lizzy - Plus  1 for 'yank banks'

as in yanking us around

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:22 | 2591513 knukles
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Wonder if they have a motive not to investigate?

Understatement defined

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:21 | 2591514 Cognitive Dissonance
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The fix is in......EVERYTHING .

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:27 | 2591539 DeadFred
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It's a given that the SEC will do nothing, but what's with the Brits? One would be tempted to think that they have a small shred of integrity but I suspect it's really some other motive. I'm at a loss to figure out what it is though.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:31 | 2591559 Temporalist
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The last remaining shred of integrity has been re-hypothecated infinitely.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:37 | 2591568 Benjamin Glutton
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Link to PDF of Justice Department agreement dated june 26th/2012 not to prosecute Barclays criminally. Issued by Denis Mcinerney Chief Criminal Division,Fraud Section United States Dept. of Justice signed by Daniel Braun Deputy Chief of same and by Barclays  attorney Steven R. Peikin. crazy!!!


Case closed bitchez!!!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:46 | 2591613 GMadScientist
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"applies only to Barclays, and not to any entities or individuals, including but not limited to employees or officers"

Reading: it's fundamental.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:18 | 2591718 Benjamin Glutton
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the letter does in fact speak for itself...did I say Bob Diamond, anyone else or a particular entity was off the hook?


how many other such release documents remain undisclosed?




Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:56 | 2591863 GMadScientist
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"Case closed bitchez"

Uh huh. Right.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:44 | 2591817 EscapeKey
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No doubt they consulted the legal team at Barclay's, to get the "best wording possible".

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:50 | 2591625 fijisailor
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Noticed also there was a rather paltry fine in the letter also

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:22 | 2591521 the not so migh...
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This might be the thing that undermines "reserve currency status"

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 15:35 | 2593017 Panafrican Funk...
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Nah, the spin will be "THIS IS WHY WE NEED GOVERNMENT TO REGULATE INTEREST RATES!!!!", which is clever also because it implies that, say, the Federal Reserve is "government".  

It's a bit like how they treat gambling.  State lottery?  Thumbs up!  A poker game with your friends?  Thumbs way the fuck down!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:23 | 2591522 buzzsaw99
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serious fraud office. lulz

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:36 | 2591572 reload
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In fact the SFO is one of the few investigative bodies in the UK that remain `uncaptured` by those they investigate. They have the power to demand and sieze documnts not afforded to everyday investigators and more importantly they delight in taking down a big name or three when they can. Generaly they are very hard nosed and tenacious.

Their problem will be that if they find damning enough evidence to bring a strong case, it will all be handed over to the DPP (department of public prosecution) which is a whitehall department as prone to political pressure and bargaining as any. A strong case getting to see the light of day in court may never happen, regardless of what the SFO uncover.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:39 | 2591587 Unprepared
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What if SFO started by investigating the DPP and said politicians? It is certainly more serious than playing with rates.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 12:19 | 2592234 Diplodicus Rex
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"In fact the SFO is one of the few investigative bodies in the UK that remain `uncaptured` by those they investigate."

You must be living in a parallel universe from the one in which I live. The SFO in my country (UK) is the most distrusted and complicit of all government departments for the very reason that it is supposed to be the strongest anti-fraud agency and folds without prosecution every case it ever looks at.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:23 | 2591523 LeBalance
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Jedi Ben Shalom mind trick: "it is not in anyone's best interest for any regulator to not be watching tranny porn 24/7/365."

Regulating masses: "we do obey divine master!"

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:25 | 2591528 Taterboy
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Since when has fraud become "serious".

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:45 | 2591818 TrainWreck1
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Only when it can impact elections or campaign contributions.


Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:25 | 2591529 Bill D. Cat
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John Cleese no doubt in charge .

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:02 | 2591673 HoofHearted
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I'd take Cleese or Graham Chapman or any of them over the Muppets that are in charge of most of these departments...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:27 | 2591533 Bangin7GramRocks
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Reagan got rid of our serious fraud office. He said it WAS the problem. Or something like that. Crazy. Dumb. Actor.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:37 | 2591578 GMadScientist
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"Reaganism replaced Enlightenment thinking with the corrupted Romanticism that portrays free-market purism as an article of religious faith that is the real meaning of America. The answer to any of the economic challenges of the twenty-first century is to do nothing. Cut taxes, eviscerate all regulation of private enterprise, and trust the market to guide our fates."

Never mind that the doddering fuck didn't even walk what he talked.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:43 | 2591604 GeneMarchbanks
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Doesn't matter, that was the propaganda line for the EM and LatAm countries. Typical Western hypocrisy or calculating imperialism ploy?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:48 | 2591619 GMadScientist
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"FreedomFighters(t) wanted: apply within"

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:54 | 2591641 midgetrannyporn
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Raygun is dead and we're all better off for it.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:29 | 2591547 Stoploss
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Im pretty sure the gen pop will take care of this on their own as has been done in the past.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:31 | 2591554 q99x2
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It is conspiracy by politicians and bankers to commit atrocities against the elderly, unemployed and law abiding citizens. They need to be locked up NOW!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:31 | 2591556 GeneMarchbanks
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Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:32 | 2591563 mberry8870
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At this time, a senior Barclays Treasury manager informed BBA in a telephone call that it

had not been reporting accurately, although he noted that Barclays was not the worst offender of

the panel bank members. "We're clean, but we're dirty-clean, rather than clean-clean." The

BBA representative responded, "no one's clean-clean." The senior Barclays Treasury manager

replied "no, because ofthe very fact of what happened to us ... We were clean ... the market ...

reacted accordingly. And that's why we stepped away again." The senior Barclays Treasury

manager was referencing the market speculation about Bat'clays' high LIBOR submission in

early fall 2007. The BBA representative indicated that he understood what happened to any

banle that moved against the trend of lower submissions. The same senior Barclays Treasury

manager had a similar conversation with the FSA during a surveillance call regarding market

liquidity conditions

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:32 | 2591564 moriarty
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Paper tiger, they are as much use as a chocolate fireguard.

Spend millions on investigations and hardly ever get a mister medium never mind a mister big.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:35 | 2591569 Pumpkin
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Do they have a not so serious fraud department.  I would think, at least to any victim, that all fraud would be serious. 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:36 | 2591571 JenkinsLane
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The SFO's nickname over here is the Serious Farce Office because they're useless.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:37 | 2591576 Azannoth
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They will simply use the 'other' definition of fix-ed as in not-broken, than they'll say Barclay's 'un-broke the Libor' and  all be peachy again

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:43 | 2591600 Diplodicus Rex
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In the UK we refer to the SFO as the Serious Farce Office due to the number of cases of fraud NOT prosecuted. We also refer to the FSA as the Financial Scam Agancy for their complicit support of financial scams.


As much as I'd like to see this go all the way, I have no hopes that the 'regulators' will do any 'regulating'.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:45 | 2591611 hellas4life
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aside from the 30 trillion in bailouts to the banks via the fed and teh treasury there are trillions more in hidden costs such as sham prosecutions(or lackthereof) and settlements.


never ending bailouts.  woo hooooooooo

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:45 | 2591612 Diplodicus Rex
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Does anyone know the actual trigger which brought this to the attention of the FSA? Did someone threaten that unless they did something about it they'd release the info publicly? IF so, who was that person? Was their a whistleblower? I'd like to shake their hand.


Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:48 | 2591616 marcusfenix
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"serious fraud office" come on, that just sounds fake doesn't it?

I bet it's headquartered in some musty old basement with one of those old school frosted window doors that's all yellowed with age and nicotine stains, cause the last time anybody was actually in that part of the building was when you could still smoke indoors. I also imagine it has those old school black plastic letters that are so worn and faded with age that it now reads something like:

s  io s aud off ce

serious fraud office, biggest cake job a govt employee could ever hope for cause you know you will never, ever have to do a damn thing...  

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:57 | 2591649 AnAnonymous
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"serious fraud office" come on, that just sounds fake doesn't it?


Welcome to the US world order.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:09 | 2591694 BeetleBailey
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The UK is known for their silly assed titles..."Special Branch"....."M".....Chancellor of the Exchequer" .....Scotland Yard (although the bloody thing is in England).....this is no surprise....

They must have the "Sort of Serious" branch, as well as the "Bloody Bollix Blimey!" division of the department.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:48 | 2591618 juujuuuujj
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Criminal probe -> cavity search -> hot corporation x regulator romance.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:52 | 2591637 twocents
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Oh, this is a load of (ed) BALLS! Where is Gordon? Ready the stocks....

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:54 | 2591638 Itch
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Scrap the Serious Fraud Office, this is a job for the 3 Card Trick Office.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:54 | 2591640 Antifaschistische
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Criminal means the Bankers will now be forced to give more money to the Lawyers.  It's redistribution of wealth among societies chief parasites.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:57 | 2591650 Kina
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....USA....Serious Fraud Office To Begin Criminal Probe Into USA Serious Fraud Office before begining serious fraud criminal probe into SEC, CFTC then serious fraud criminal probe into manipulation of gold, silver and everything else.



Cant happen in the USA. The level of corruption is too systemic and extensive.  USA is thouroughly corrupt from politician to junior official, they will need to get wiped out in WW3 before any hope of reset.




Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:58 | 2591659 SIOP
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Wow, shocking! Only took four years to wake up!  </sarc>

British bankers group steps up review of widely used Libor

17 Apr 2008


The British bankers' trade group responsible for overseeing a widely used interest rate said that it had fast-tracked an investigation into the accuracy of the rate.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:59 | 2591662 Kina
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Banksters are the AIDS of the financial world.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:08 | 2591690 chunga
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That's pretty harsh on AIDS.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:13 | 2591711 Hype Alert
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There is no law anymore, only propaganda.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:18 | 2591724 semperfi
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The financial system will not implode, will not fall, and will be with us until we die.  The most powerful criminals (bankers) run it and we are no match for them.  The second most powerful criminals (politicians) regulate it and we are no match for them.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:21 | 2591734 Toolshed
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Clearly, you need to turn in your screen name you defeatist.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:46 | 2591824 Red Pill
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Sure we can beat them. The problem is this: people get the government (or leaders) they deserve.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:31 | 2591764 onebir
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Whatever the US regulators do, there must have been enough money sitting in Libor linked MMAs for a BIG class action to be on the cards...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:33 | 2591773 CloseToTheEdge
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“Do you understand what I'm saying?"
shouted Moist. "You can't just go around killing people!"
"Why Not? You Do." The golem lowered his arm.
"What?" snapped Moist. "I do not! Who told you that?"
"I Worked It Out. You Have Killed Two Point Three Three Eight People," said the golem calmly.
"I have never laid a finger on anyone in my life, Mr Pump. I may be–– all the things you know I am, but I am not a killer! I have never so much as drawn a sword!"
"No, You Have Not. But You Have Stolen, Embezzled, Defrauded And Swindled Without Discrimination, Mr Lipvig. You Have Ruined Businesses And Destroyed Jobs. When Banks Fail, It Is Seldom Bankers Who Starve. Your Actions Have Taken Money From Those Who Had Little Enough To Begin With. In A Myriad Small Ways You Have Hastened The Deaths Of Many. You Do Not Know Them. You Did Not See Them Bleed. But You Snatched Bread From Their Mouths And Tore Clothes From Their Backs. For Sport, Mr Lipvig. For Sport. For The Joy Of The Game.”
~T. Pratchett, Going Postal

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:47 | 2591826 MFL8240
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I would bet my life on the fact that it all started from the US sewer on Wall Street presuring this group of crooks!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:51 | 2591844 orangedrinkandchips
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Purpose besides the usual emminent front?



Fri, 07/06/2012 - 11:00 | 2591879 FiatFapper
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Comapre to this:

U2 bassist PA sentenced to seven years in theft case.

"A former personal assistant to U2 bassist Adam Clayton who embezzled 2.8 million euros ($3.5 million) of his money to fund a lavish lifestyle was sentenced on Friday to seven years in jail."

Isn't that the same as what banks have done - embezzle (To take (money, for example) for one's own use in violation of a trust).

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:09 | 2593426 smiler03
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Yes it is but you must remember the most disruptive serious threat to law abiding American citizens are those maryjuanna users who are quite rightly incarcerated at the taxpayers expense.

Bankers in jail, bloody ridiculous idea.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 12:43 | 2592323 AurorusBorealus
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Looks like the Europeans are fixing to start hanging bankers.  Europe has a chance to save itself and start righting the ship of Western Civilization.  America... not so much.  When the crisis breaks in America, it will be hard, fast, and decimating.  Most of America's wealth (which is mostly in paper these days) will be destroyed in an hour.  The Americans have no idea what is coming... stupid, stupid people.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 12:58 | 2592384 tony wilson
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david talikng aout a 14 year old who stole some sports shoes..

You will feel the full force of the law and if you are old enough to commit these crimes you are old enough to face the punishments. And to these people I would say this: you are not only wrecking the lives of others, you are potentially wrecking your own life too.
David Cameron



david on the barclays trillion dollar crime spree

he prime minister said accountability for the bank's admission that it had manipulated key interest rates should go right to the top of the bank.


the city of london and westminster a banana republic without bananas



Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:19 | 2593442 smiler03
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You are full of shit. 

The line you quote is a very small part of a speech regarding the riots in major UK cities. It was NOT ADDRESSED TO A 14 YEAR OLD STEALING SHOES.

If you are going to quote people then get it right. Or maybe you are an aspiring politician? Asshole.


Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:16 | 2593441 smiler03
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duplicate. apologies.

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