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UN Security Council Finds Iran Is Violating The Nuclear Weapons Program Ban
The good old Iraq playbook is being played to the dot, just less than a decade later, and now with Iraq neighbor off by just one letter: Iran. According to Haaretz, the UN Security council "denounced Iran's failure to abide by United Nations resolutions demanding an end to the possible weaponization of its nuclear program. The Denouncement comes after International Atomic Energy Agency submits a report claiming Iran continues to make advances in uranium enrichment beyond its needs for medical applications. The United States, Germany, France and Britain joined forces in exposing Tehran's advanced 20-per-cent uranium enrichment, which is considered military weapons grade. Tehran said its enrichment program was needed for medical and civilian uses. But the UN said Tehran has not been transparent and failed to cooperate with the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which recently submitted a report that Iran continued to make advances in uranium enrichment beyond its needs for medical applications." Whether the US, pardon the UN, will follow up with ever escalating following directives that ultimately lead to nothing short of a land invasion is unknown for now, but if history tis any precedent, the answer is a resounding yes. Furthermore, today's decision should be taken in context with the major article in the WSJ "US Eyes Covert Plan to Counter Iran in Iraq" which does nothing but set the scene for what will inevitably follow in a few weeks or months. Expect a flare up in anti-Iran rhetoric in the next few days.
From the WSJ:
Military commanders and intelligence officers are pushing for greater authority to conduct covert operations to thwart Iranian influence in neighboring Iraq, according to U.S. officials.
The move comes amid growing concern in the Obama administration about Iran's attempts in recent months to expand its influence in Iraq and the broader Middle East and what it says is Tehran's increased arms smuggling to its allies.
Compounding the urgency is the planned reduction in the U.S. military presence in Iraq by the end of the year, a development that many fear will open up the country to more influence from Iran, which also has a majority Shiite population.
If the request is approved by the White House, the authorization for the covert activity in Iraq likely would take the form of a classified presidential "finding." But unlike the secret order that authorized the Central Intelligence Agency's campaign against al Qaeda in 2001, the current proposal is limited in scope, officials said.
Officials declined to provide details about the kinds of covert operations under consideration, but said they could include more aggressive interdiction efforts at the Iraq-Iran border and stepped-up measures to stop Iranian arms smuggling after the American drawdown.
The United Nations has prohibited Iran from exporting arms. However, defense officials say, Tehran continues to supply weapons parts to Shiite militias in Iraq.
Right, and when it comes to "defense officials", we should always take their word, whether it is for secret knowledge of weapons of mass destruction, Iraq's massive nuclear armament, or any other watercooler soundbite that Joe Sixpack is delighted to regurgitate the next day to his minimally paid coworkers.
Iranian officials have repeatedly denied that they have played any role in arming militants in Iraq or worked to destabilize other Arab nations. Tehran has claimed the U.S. has leveled charges of arms smuggling to justify a continued American military presence.
As the NYT noted before contrary to Israel demand for an immediate invasion discussed previously, the US military still understands that yet another US-sponsored land invasion in the Middle East may prove complicated to be spun as a humanitarian intervention to even the greater American unwashed.
Both military and senior Obama administration officials believe they must proceed cautiously to ensure that any expansion in covert action doesn't prompt Tehran to retaliate and inadvertently trigger a wider conflict.
Yet behind all the media spin rhetoric, the stage is now set:
Special operations forces would have the ability to carry out risky capture-or-kill missions that the CIA may not be able to conduct on its own.
A new finding also would ensure that the CIA and military special-operations forces working for the agency have the legal ability under U.S. law to shut down the flow of arms from Iran to allied militia groups.
Other officials, including some in Congress, favor a broader secret campaign against Iran to block its support to Syria or to other militant groups elsewhere in the Middle East.
In retrospect, the only thing oil needs in addition to QE3 being launched in 2 weeks is a major military campaign against one of the biggest petroleum countries in the world. It does however, explain why WTI is now inching into $90s territory, and why Brent will soon take out its all time highs.
The full IAEA report can be found here.
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What could possibly happen......
I told my nephew who is 16, whatever you do, don't join the military. Under no circumstances. Do not give up your all of your few remaining rights to follow orders of these bunch of a$$hats.
Fair advice.... unless he can get into Westpoint.
So it is alright to sell out if the price is high enough? That would be funny if he ended up giving the orders to round up his own uncle to send off to the camps.
So correct me if I'm wrong... At the end of the day, all you value is your personal comfort?
If I lived in a building with a bunch of assholes wielding knives and guns then I would want to be sure I had knives and guns as well.
The "Fall" Is Approaching
"Expect a flare up in anti-Iran rhetoric in the next few days."
Won't even take a couple days, just read the thread.
Some articles of interest:
http://www.worldcrunch.com/exclusive-north-korea-steps-aid-iran-nuclear-program/3649
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4108465,00.html
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4118220,00.html
From what I can tell, Iran is providing multiple indications to Israeli intelligence of a "breakout" that would mean an Iranian capability to launch a nuke on Tel Aviv. Whether this is true or not seems to be a moot point since as far as I'm concerned Iran's strategy here appears to be goading Israel into attacking:
http://www.spiritoftruth.org/iraniannuclearbomb.htm
Quite frankly, Israel has well-restrained itself from taking the bait, but now it's getting existential and in recent history the Jews have opted to pounce first and ask questions later when the writing on the wall spells out their potential demise (something Israel's enemies have taken note of).
Of course, a key question that Jewish people should be asking themselves is, if we're God's chosen people, why do we keeping getting setup so badly? Maybe it's a matter of what God wants....and IMHO that's not a people in love with money, pleasure and riches.
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How is it getting 'existential' for Israel? Iran doesn't have the bomb, and even if it did, it doesn't have a reliable way of delivering it. One of the reasons Muslims get so uptight about Palestine (apart from the Zionists' treatment of their co-religionists) is that it's sacred land; what is Iran going to do - blow up the Holy Land?
Israel has 200+ nuclear weapons, and state-of-the-art means of delivering them... Iran is not a serious threat.
The only serious threat to Zionists is the burgeoning Arab-Israeli population.
The vast majority of 'jews' in Israel are not Hebrew people: they are Ashkenazi & Edomite jews.
They are not Yahweh's chosen...see Revelation 3:9.
The old World War II/ Holocaust surviving Jews have been replaced by Russian and Sephardic Jews whose lives were marginalized by where they lived but who knew no deadly anti-Semitism. Since they have immigrated to Israel they have participated in that country's unbelievable success in that region.
But all that achievement and prosperity has twisted the collective Israeli mind. They now think that they can do anything, take anything and pay nothing for it.
Look at Ariel Sharon. Israel's Prime Minster and the General who led the Israeli Army into Lebanon in 1982 and provided cover for the Christian Militias in their slaughter of the refugees in the Sabra and Shatilla Camps. When he came home he was cheered by Israelis as Ariel, King of the Jews.
He had a stroke in January 2006 and has been comatose ever since. He is a reminder of how one can progress from King of the Jews to a piece of meat on a slab of marble in the twinkling of an eye.
why is it so hard for iran to understand they are the bad guys...
and why don't they understand how much happier they would be if we set them up a central bank...
you would figure after they watched saddam and momar get a toaster with their free checking acct. after opening up a central bank they would beg us to set them up also...dumb asses....
I think what he meant to say was "I don't want my family to join the military and die for some dumb fucking war that never needed to happen in the first place."
I don't recall anything about personal comfort. At the end of the day, he values his family and would prefer they don't die so some dumb fucking bureaucrat can make a little bit more cash.
>I don't want my family to join the military and die for some dumb fucking war
It's probably worse to continue living as a murderer who blew up small children on the other side of the world.
Tis true....no one wants to sacrifice an ounce of their personal comfort, nevermind their very lives, for righteousness sake. That's why the vast majority of folk reading this comment will soon meet a violent demise. Evil depends on the cowardly masses cooperating in their own destruction, and this is precisely what has unfolded.
On The Triumph Of Evil
"All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
"All that is needed for evil to triumph is for a bunch of dumbasses to commit it" - BigJim
So, to follow your comments logic to its end, the war in Iran would either be righteous, or it would be preventing evil. I fail to see how killing thousands of civilians for something that they have no part of is righteous. And if the US did exactly jack to N. Korea over their nuclear program, exactly what evil are they preventing that hasn't already been allowed?
What? No real patriots arround here?
"And I waked in and sat down and they gave
me a piece of paper, said, "Kid, see the phsychiatrist, room 604."
And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and
he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me,
sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."
http://arlo.net/resources/lyrics/alices.shtml
this was janus. they wanted to see if i was fit to kill sand-niggers and the like.
they got their answer, gave me a gun, and sent me on my way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3W0AnCAZsg
a real american hero janus was
well, actually it went down more like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdA9YJgITiA&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLBB43BB94138EC85A
or maybe it was somethin like this (it's gettin foggy as time goes by):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oYsgHR5a7U&feature=related
are either of you homosexual?
you mean like flaming?
why, will they send us someplace special?
no, we're not homosexual; but we are willing to learn.
convicted, no, never convicted,
janus
Thank you!
I must say this discussion makes me chuckle. Relax, enjoy life. I'm sure your nephew and his relatives smirk when you give your worldly advice. I would expect you have strongly held opinions on all matters of conscience.
It's good to dialog with someone who is harmless. It's not very enlightening when you are looking for answers, but at least everyone can exercise their emotions without entering a Roman arena. Blood sports are so passe today.
Remember, play safe...
be safe out there...
Do you know where your children are?
You might find it harder to 'relax' and 'enjoy life' if someone you care about is off in some foreign land killing and facing the threat of being killed... all for the sake of furthering some slimebag politician's post-career MIC handouts.
So correct me if I'm wrong... At the end of the day, all you value is your personal comfort?
I never really thought about it until a very good friend of mine's (i don't have a lot of friends) brother got hit in the face with a grenade in afganistan the same day of the navy seal fiasco. I do not know what to think of the whole thing any more, but maybe we better find another way to make energy. That way they can fight amongst themselves. Afganistan has some of the worlds least explored minerals-- is that why????? why can we not recycle and .......................... put a price on everything that includes the blood, sweat, and tears that go with military intervention????What would the price of copper, iron, oil, rare earths................
be without our military protecting the supply routs???
probbably triple at least and the us, cost would be less !!!!!
so my theory is let them fuk them selves and pick up the crumbs after they are done.
Just a thought.
"...all you value is your personal comfort? "
Sorry, that dog don't hunt no more...
Neither does 'Yer either wid us or agin us"
"personal comfort" does he mean like my conscience?
By the way, I gave more money to Wounded Warrior than any other charity last year and raised more as part of FGB5. I have nothing against the grunts that do the heavy lifting. I just think the more patriotic Americans have been sold a bunch of crap. It is not easy to come to this conclusion. Generally, if you can't borrow a billion at 0%, you are being lied to, manipulated, robbed, and screwed.
At the end of the day they will be fighting and dieing in endless wars for the only things that seem to matter in this country any more: Israel and oil. Long live the American Empire
If we only send asshats to West Point, that's all we will have in the officer ranks. Why not some freedom lovers that would follow the Constitution? I guess you don't want any good people to confuse your black / white good / evil thinking process.
Those who don't tow the party line are not promoted and /or "eased out" to make room for the Petreaus types.
Don't think you can reform Goldman Sachs by becoming a "maverick" employee either.
I want to work at Goldman Sachs
Why would any 'freedom lover' join the US military? When was the last time the US military did its actual job - defend the US homeland? WWII... some 60+ years ago.
You join the US military now, you're either stupid, sadly misguided, or just plain evil. Or an amoral careerist.
iran in violation of nuclear weapons program ban?
krugman is salivating!
"MORE WAR EQUALS MORE STIMULUS BITCHEZ! THAT WILL REALLY RAISE AGGREGATE DEMAND!"
http://azizonomics.com/2011/08/24/the-problem-with-military-keynesianism/
I hear Iran is also colluding with aliens to invade the earth. Krugman saw this coming!!
Krugman sees all, knows all.
That's what Nobel Prize'll do for 'ya.
Talking about Nobel Prizes, how the Fuck did Krugman ever get one?
Oh right... a columnist for the NYT.
Maybe Freidman is next?
No, Maureen Dowd. Right bloody lota intellect there!
There is no Nobel Prize for Economics.
20% is weapons grade? My ass, 20% is medical grade... that's what it's used for, that's what they have been saying they were enriching to, that's what they are capable of enriching to with centrifuges. They do not have the fuel cycle for actual weapons grade. Welp, time to play on the stupidity fear and hate of the idiot masses.
Wikipedia says that weapon grade is actualy 90%.
Pardon my French.... WIKIPEDIA MY ASS!
20% is enough for an EMP use. But first, Iranians would have to have delivery capabilities. about 300 miles above the ground somewhere in the middle of the US!
And just exactly how do you create an Electro Magnetic Pulse weapon with 20% enriched Uranium? Do tell. Please.
Nat Rothschild owns Iraqi oil and is de facto owner of Libya oil. Now he wants to own Persian Oil:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2011/09/07/tony-haywards-reven...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2011/09/07/in-iraq-oil-dea...
nice find. no doubt his reward for destroying the Gulf of Mexico on behalf of the NWO.
Nice picture, is that what 6 generations of inbreeding do?
Are you what happens to a stupid person who decides to make a bread jock strap and winds up with a yeast infection on your taint.
I'm here every wednesday giving lessons on how to be insulting. Tune in same troll crap time same troll crap channel.
Nat? Is that you?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/3236091/Nat-Rothsc...
See this guy knows how to be insulting.
West Point?!!
Why do you hate him?
Annapolis, bitches.
Either or...
BTW, my father graduated first-in-class at the Canadian equivalent of Annapolis....
or the Air Force Academy. Why walk when you can fly through the air or sit in a bunker and control your billion dollar bomber remotely.
But more to your point, what could possibly go wrong in this scenario. Let the Asians handle this one so that we can get a good look at their hardware.
Iran can hit Europe way before they can hit us.
Let Eurpope deal with it.
Their military is spectacular. Just ask them.
There's absolutely no freakin way Iran could get past the formidable Maginot Line. None. Zero. Zip.
There is only one USMA [United States Military Academy]. It's at West Point. The others are coverted girl's schools.
The others are coverted girl's schools.
Obviously for girly men.
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/pumping-up-with-hans-and-fr...
Its hard to see Russia standing idly by while Iran faces agression from the USA/NATO/Isreal.
I dont suggest they would get involved militarily, but they have the ability to make western europe rather cold during a winter.
And as the article points out the complete lack of WMD in Iraq would make the general western public very vocally critical of any direct action. We had huge anti war demonstrations in the UK over the second Iraqi adventure, and pretty much everbody now believes our then prime minister Tony Blair lied to Parliament to get us involved. Hillariously he is now a UN Middle East `peace envoy` or something.
On top of this we have the pretty obvious `lets play dictator swap` game going on - Egypt, Lybia etc.
So something big is going to be needed. I have always been sceptical of `false flag` event theories. But I think this would be a far tougher conflict than anything we have seen of late. A big unique selling point WILL be needed.
Its one thing to send a few drones and missiles over - quite another to take controll of the infrastructure and administration.
I can't help but think the false flag...yes, another false flag...won't be nuking a U.S. city. Fukishima served a purpose, but I'm not completely sure what that is. Yes, I know this extreme tinfoil hat stuff, but these are extremely evil people that exist.
You know what they say about your idea? To many chiefs and not enough cannon fodder.
Well, they had involuntary military servitude when I was a teen-ager -- called it The Draft.
Well it's one, two, three what are we fighting for,
Don't ask me I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam...
The president's and congress's rating is at an all time low. World economies are tettering on the brink. And consider what has happened in Libya, I'm pretty sure that Da Boyz want unfettered access to natural resouces. They keep opening up new fronts, they're going to need more boots on the ground: The Draft.
Israel, with their hundreds of nukes, will finally join the NNPT.
ROFL LOL LOL LOL
Oh, who are we kidding, Israel will NEVER join the NNPT like other nuke countries including USA, Japan, Iran, Russia, etc.
Israel is a nuke rogue and must be brought into line with other nuclear capable places.
So when will inspectors be able to visit Israel's nuclear facilities?
For real. You show me yours and I'll show you mine.
Israel is it's own terrorist nation. Let them deal with this shit.
With the departure of El Baradai, the IAEA has become a sounding board for US/Israel propaganda with its new stooge director. We should no longer pay any attention to any IAEA statement.
Being a next-door neighbor and former adversary in a bloody war, it is to be expected that Iran would want to influemce events in Iraq. Their efforts would be far more legitimate than those of the US, which is half a world away. The obvious fact is that Israel wants to eliminate all possible rivals in the region and wants the US to do it for them.
israel... when will people learn.
When they find themselves sitting behind barbed wire and a gate sign reading '?????? ???? ????' (was supposed to be 'arbeit macht frei' in hebrew but the font is not supported)
Just ask the Palestinians if you think that's impossible
Saddam was the counterbalance to Amadinajerkoff. Thanks Dubya. When ya can't play checkers , why tackle chess ?
Great fucking strategy.
Don't blame Dubya. Junior was in the White House just to sign papers. If you really want to blame someone, blame Cheney and Papa Bush aka Mr. Magog. They were real force behind G.W.B.
corrected spelling isra-HELL
Well it's more like Islam-HEIL since 600 EC when mass-murder Mahomet left Medina but History is not something you guys seem to care about.
Do you really believe the USSA will invade a country just for Israel ? Israel has the nuclear bomb and can nuke any iranien army crossing the border.
When the Anglo-Americans start a war plan, it's because there's a profit to be made, not because they believe in liberty and war against tyranny or whatever. They never do anything for free.
They came to Europe to fight against Hitler because they knew they'll make profit out of Europe.
They invaded Irak and Afghanistan for the same reasons.
And they now bomb Libya and are preparing to do the same with Iran because there's something there they want badly... something they're addicted to like oil !
Yes. We already have.
They won't use them cause their illegal state would truly be wiped off the face of the Earth. They rather use a proxy to fight their wars. Also helps them save face. They are already winning a war in the U.S.A., the war of public opinion.
This action is lead primarily by the UK and France. The U.S.A. is involved no doubt, probably more than any of us realize, but it is all utimately Zionist action.
This is definitely bullish for Halliburton
And for the barbaric relic. Of course I'm referring to Cheney.
helluva,
clevah!
and, janus will be puttin his money on the yellow-jackets when they play UGA later this fall. janus luvs him some dawgs; but janus's money is never, and has never been, swayed by emotion.
y'all look good so far -- i mean, for an ACC team, that is.
like all my jolly good fellows/
i drink my wiskey clear/
i'm a ramblin wreck from ga. tech/
and a helluvan engineer/
a helluva helluva helluva helluvan enigineer...,
janus (who has six of your brother alum on his cellphone contact list -- you buncha nerds! -- has spent some very good nights on that campus)
Is the economy bad enough to justify a real war?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/charting-two-centuries-business-booms-and-...
Give them another couple months and we'll be there.
America getting ready to fight yet another war for Israel...what could be more bullish for the market than that?
Saying the military industrial complex cares about Israel is like saying Disney cares about Christianity. Only in how much they can profit from using it.
The MIC -is- Israel; Wurmser, Feith, Perle, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, et al. Also. Disney -is- Israel too. Both organizations care about Israel and will gladly sacrifice a few shekels to see their coreligionists are protected.
projecting Israel's influence is more important than protecting the crude supplies?
what could be more inverted than that?
It makes sense when Israel itself is going to become an oil&gas supplier.
just as the Kish oil exchange/zone rumbles into action....
Hillary will likely play the role of Colin Powell far better than he did. Instead of bogus charts and pics, she will just glare at them all until they give in.
that's because she's got a bigger dick.
Americans would never go to war over nuclear energy. Never. However as the Iranians have an abundance of oil resources I don't see a problem here.
Iran also needs a good Central Bank to help in the laundering of fraudulent US bonds, so there is a good enough reason for continued "freedom" and "prosperity" Americans have become accustomed to. Plus, what better way to control inflation by blowing up excess money supply. Should be GDP positive for all of those Krugmanites.
+100
"any other watercooler soundbite that Joe Sixpack is delighted to regurgitate the next day to his minimally paid coworkers."
Joe Sixpack no longer has a job, but no worries ... he can happily regurgitate this via social networking in between bouts of tending to his virtual farmland.
Don't forget all of the potential cyber communications for their 8 fantasy football leagues. "Kill those brown people. Turn that land of camel fuckers to glass. AMERICA!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!"
The comic itself is for something different, & I know you're ending with the Team America song, but for some reason I thought of this when I read your post:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/minor_differences4/accents...
Original comic it came from:
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/minor_differences4
. . . as someone who's spent a couple decades in each country, I can only vouch for the accuracy. . .
*wipes tears from eyes* bookmarked, with thanks.
So when he gets virtual diabetes, he can go to his virtual doctor for virtual government health care, to be paid for by his virtual health care insurer...
Just die off already, you sick, hiomeless, poor, straving, undereducated, unemployed....
Root for the NWO!
It's all part of being a Nobel Peace Prize winning President.
BOMBS AWAY BITCHEZ!
Where's Curt LeMay when we need him?
Iran has always been more of a threat to the US (and Israel) than Libya, Iraq, or Afghanistan. Iran and Syria are practically begging for a ground war with Israel and the West.
At what point does Israel get fed up with this endless charade and delploy the "measure of last resort"? Will they actually wait for a nuke armed Iran? Doubt it!
The key questions are:
Will the UN back up it's words with action?
Will Barry use his 9-iron or wedge for the approach shot?
it's nice to see that you are so eager to see world war 3 breakout in order to make Israel feel safer.
do you have a child you'd like to sacrifice for this cause? I'm sure they'd be happy to have the cannon fodder.
I can't believe people are for more war. We're broke. Isn't three vague, endless wars enough?
some people are obviously fine with it as long as it's someone elses kid coming home in a body bag.
it's sickening.
Should have an automatic draft anytime troops are sent, Even if most rich kids buy their way out wit a differment a few would be caught and their Daddys' would be on the phone to DC.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/01/politics/campaign/01CHEN.html
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2004/09/18/884/06682
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent#Military
Because slave soldiers are so much better. Nothing shows the world that we are free like rounding up young men to turn them into killers against their will to go fight and die for corporate interests. At least now there is a choice to sign up to go kill for the oligarchs and not enslaved at gunpoint. And as to the rich kids going, yeah that worked in Nam, or WW2, or WW1, or the Civil War. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
while I agree with your point of view, and abhor any enforced military service, I wonder if a draft might wake up a few people to what is going down right in front of their noses - in that small space between their iSHIT, texting thumbs & purported braincells. . .
I'd like to think some noisy resistance would happen, but I've been wrong about this before. . .
The draft would face resistance thats why we are and will use private corps like XE. No accountability too.
aye, I think that's what my post was pointing to - as to the Xe-boys, they will use private militia funded by illicit drug monies, same as it ever was.
the flaw in your logic is that israel, which controls american politicians, doesn't give a shit if the United States is broke. in fact, that is probably part of the plan.
A parasite doesn't care about its host. Once the host dies, the parasite just moves on.
Parasites don't kill their hosts.1 Nor do symbiotes. Parasites cause a degradation in performance that might lessen breeding chances (e.g. bright plumage in birds is often ascribed to being able to advertise being parasite free due to the energy requirements) but they rarely kill off the prey species. http://parasitology.com/
You're looking for a different analogy. Either go with "Parasites care very much about their host until their next life cycle2" or "Parasites that manage to infect creatures who are not ecologically in tune with them might kill them" 3
Or... if we're being really smart, stick with toxoplasmosis.
This is one of the tiny (like.. three?) parasitical life forms that actually alter the behaviour of the species in mammals [outside of fungii - insects, notably ants]. And it is only a protozoan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis
So - they might be parasites that alter the behaviour of the host species to act more beneficially towards them. That's kinda nailing any stupid racist analogies you want to make, given Jewish people are usually generically hated across the board. If they were successful parasites, we'd all love them. Like... Lady Gaga.
I stand corrected.
Remind me, please. Is the spirochete a parasite?
"Untreated it has a mortality of 8% to 58% with a greater death rate in males. The symptoms of syphilis has become less severe over the 19th and 20th century in part due to widespread availability of effective treatment and partly due to decreasing virulence of the spirochete.[6] With early treatment, few complications result." wikipedia
Methinks you're missing another 5 or so....
You are not taking Peak Oil and progressing with it to its logical conclusion.
Who said I am eager for war? Peace and love, bro. You got me wrong, alien. I am analyzing the situation as a blogger on the web. I can't deploy any troops, so don't worry.
Israel has to put up with threats from every angle and they are a nuclear nation. I am not here to analzye why that is. Barry Obama wants '67 borders. We can't expect Israel to put up with this and Iran's aggression (and all the terror groups they fund) and not act. I tend to think that by supporting Israel, the US prevents a potential nuclear winter in the desserts of the Middle East...that is not the path Barry is taking...
Hmmm. Barry would rather side with statehood for a terrorist group with ties to Iran than keep Israel from being overly aggressive with Iran...
Sir, with respect, your second paragraph is, what we called in high school, 'full of it.'
I'll echo IQ here. Need a ride to the recruiting station? I have enough room for every member of your family. Hell, if you're lucky, I'll get Rodent to come along too.
Like the prospect of war? Go fight.
Can I take loot?
If not, I'm not going.
That fighting for minimum wage shit has to end.
Ya but you get all the haliburton bacteria infested water you can drink free. Which they paid some guy 100 bucks an hour to not filter cause he kept running off and buying hookers and drugs. Though he needed to drugs to self medicate against not working in a war zone.
What is a Halliburton Bacteria?
Anyway, that is why God invented antibiotics.
Oh ya. They don't tell you jarheads these things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeIxHQ-lkuM
Grunts are expendable to the profit margin.
This is the difference between the US military and old Empire. Romans pioneered sanitation on the campaign, and the British sloshed up on Gin and quinine, or rum and lemons when they were sailing. Heck, most of the middle ages people drank beer (1-2% content) due to purity issues: on the campaigns of Henry V, Cromwell or even WWI, alcohol rations were rations.The reason? Power was directly bankable in military support.
Irony: USA puritanism over drugs (barring the airforce, gotta drug those boys up to the eyeballs before they fly, cause planes are expensive) leads to more deaths. Dick just likes the dollars on the profit margin, because unlike prior generals, he doesn't have to worry about the costs.
Sure, why not? Soldiers "in theater" are already defacing buildings that are over 1,000 years old. Hell Saddam's palaces have been thoroughly cleaned out. The question might be what loot is left, but I digress.
Still, there's the matter of your support for warfare without actually having skin in the game. C'mon Rodent, you're the resident tough guy around here - man up.
I want that in writing.
And I never advocated invading Iran. Just blowing it to hell.
Never happen. The US is afraid of them. They have been supplying the explosives used in IEDs that killed our soldiers since we entered the region, and we haven't done one single damn thing about it.
They are safe from us.
Violence and theft, that sums it up.
Still, you should probably change the second sentence in your second paragraph to include yourself. You're unwilling to fight in a war yet talk tough and criticize. How noble - little wonder that you support dropping bombs vice fighting. How noble.
I doubt the US will invade Iran, though...if for no other reason than Iran can actually defend itself. That's not how the US has done business since Korea.
I did my time. They'd have to lower their standards these days for me to get back in.
"I did my time"
Ahhhh, the siren song of the keyboard killer - easily my favorite justification for someone who won't man up.
Re: lowering standards. That's just too funny to address....you are aware convicted felons can get waivers, correct? If you fear age of physical ability elminates you from contention, fear not, for there are waivers for those too.
C'mon Rodent, you know as well as I do if something is important enough to you you'll find a way to get it done. This "I did my time" clashes with your usual hardcore, pro-war rhetoric.....
Alinsky someone else douchebag.
I earned my right to my opinion.
Does your smarmy shtick work on campus?
You speak out of raging ignorance, but I don't need to justify myself to anyone. I was there.
I don't think Iran can defend itself, really. They could cause a lot of trouble for our troops around the region, yes, but there's no need to invade. The US could bomb Iran back to the stone age. I think people forget just how far ahead of everyone else the US is in terms of straight-ahead military prowess. This is why we're so terrified of Iran getting nukes; because all our glorious technology is useless if they manage to smuggle in and hide a nuke in (say) Los Angeles.
I'm not advocating this, BTW; just making an observation.
Like it was said during the Vietnam war. The country club republicans were willing to fight the Communists down to the last Black and poor white in the country! Now just replace Communists with Moslems.
Exactly right. Folks in flyover country fight the battles that saltwater "intellectuals" start. What an amazing setup.
I don't feel too bad for flyover folks, though, because no one (as yet) is forcing anyone to sign up to fight. My wish is the keyboard commandos would act on their words.....but I'm not holding my breath for that to happen.
The keyboard commandos would gladly sign up... to fly drones, via keyboard.
Not Rodent, he's done his time. He seems content to rest on his "laurels"
Or something.
You should learn the difference between being an asshole, and being witty.
Henry @ 16:10,
Let's not leave out the DEMS that got us there to begin with.
Matter of fact, I cannot think of ONE GOP POTUS (Except GW Jr.) that ever got us into a war, the GOP just inherited them.
Dems are damn good at starting them, just piss poor at following up on them, and then when they go to shit, blame the GOP.
Lincoln?
iran has never been a threat to the US, even when they held "our" hostages and carter was too much of a pussy to put on his CIChief hat, sail a fuking carrier in, and "risk innocent american lives" to straighten the asswipes out: to go take the ayatolla and stick him in Ft. Knox to serve a life sentence or just kill the fuker, if he preferred
carter didn't want to do his job, and he lost it
but iran REALLY liked prezRayGun and freed the hostages to show it, too!
israel? who cares? we gave them our nukes when they took control of the US goobermint, and our coalitions have been doing their bid [ever since they captued the West thru intel, murder, blackmail, and "legal" bribery of "elected" officials] in iraq, egypt, and now libya
let the israelis conquer fuking iran if they're so damned worried about some uranium enhancement, and stop using their Nato & UN puppets to "legalize" us doing it so they can be "spotless and free from sin"
go ahead, make my day!
and let's give tyler a +++ for his "anaysis" of wtf is going on here...
...here
"Iran has never been a threat to the US." Yea, because they never took over the American Embassy in Tehran and held the entire staff hostage for what, two years? You're right, those actions don't threaten the US.
Well one COULD argue that that little uprising had something to do with how OUR guy treated THEIR nation for 25+ years.
pods
Since you are so good with History of that area, Please share with everyone what was going on in Iran around this time in 1953.
(Come on, it's simple just google 'IRAN 1953' )
Fitting name btw
Right after 9/11, Iran offered to halt her nuclear program. But we need to pick a fight so ignored.
In the meantime:
09-07 3:14: George [NWO] Soros says that Euro Zone crisis has the potential to have far broader global consequences than Lehman failure of 2008
Does anyone see a theme developing?
War, bitchez. Biggest business ever.
Indeed TIS. Like a locomotive without brakes or driver. WAR....senseless. Maybe a massive CME will take care of some of the war machinery for us?
We can only hope.
V
Edit: we just passed the anniversary of Mossadegh's overthrow by the CIA and the en-thronign of Reza Pehalvi. Strong echoes of history. Mossadegh's blunder was nationalization, just like Allende of Chile 20 years later.
Thoughts
Israel my ass. Like a frickin machine spitting out what you've been programmed to say. Yes, Israel has used its magic power over the US, France, the UK and Germany. What a dumb arse.
And about the WSJ article "US Eyes Covert Plan to Counter Iran in Iraq."
Just goes to show how stupid the US is. I mean they fricking bombed the place and occupied it for the past ten years. They've known that it was Iranian weapons and soldiers killing American soldiers this whole time, not only didn't say a word about it, but didn't do anything to put a stop to it?
And now that they're leaving Iraq, they're "looking to counter Iran" in Iraq? Really, who was running the show, did America hire Comical Ali?
The Army and the State Department have brought it up, over and over. You must not be very well informed. Do some research.
I'd love to be the editor of the pentagon's invasion playbook, just a simple "find: iraq, replace with: iran" function. maps don't need updating either, just shift the highlighting area slightly to the right. knock off work early, go for a drink.
Iran is going to half to wait, Libya is up come October 1st. New Military FY, and oil boys, oil. Let Iran build for another year, by next they'll have WMDs....for sure this time.
i agree w/ what you say
you nailed libya!
the moQ is still loose, and many think he may have headed into niger, but the US has "no evidence" he isn't still in libya. L0L!!! no shit! they actually said that, in spite of the fact that they have no fuking evidence where he is, at all! everything has always been, and still remains, bullshit
the "deadline" for the bloodbath in the moQ's tribal villages and support area in/around bani walid has come and gone. the Rebels reported "successful negotioations" to enter bani walid peacefully on wednesday, along w/ the "reports" that libyan convoys had left and gone into niger. then they tried to go in and were "shot at" even though they had "promised" they would be extra-nice to the peeps after they "surrendered"
now, the heroic NATO fly-boyz&ghouls are up there in the no fly zone making sure no more trucks & convoys go into niger! thank goodness! let me summariZe: they thought he might be here, but didn't watch it from above or do anything about a convoy heading out and into niger. got that? p.s. it's a loooong way to niger, too!
here's morgan strong's daily report: Summary of the American and International Press on the Libyan Revolution - <i>Morgan Strong</i> from The Tripoli Post - Libya News and Business
here's a map of bani walid (zoom out on it 2-3 clicks for context) Bani Walid Map | Libya Google Satellite Maps
and, finally (!): Or, as Foreign Policy's Blake Hounshell tweeted yesterday, "BREAKING: Gaddafi is either in Niger, Burkina Faso, Venezuela, South Africa, Bani Walid, Sirte, Tripoli, or a hole in the desert somewhere."
slewie is correct (alas, again!)
slewie got there by analysis.
wanna hear an inside scoop (that will NEVER be sourced; so, again, believe or toss it in the rumor basket)?
special ops are about to recluster in Chad. guess what that means.
i'll leave you all to speculate -- hint: it involves south sudan, china and, of course, lybia.
those ghadaffi loyalists (read: lybian citizens) are a tough nut; ain't they, anglos? got a bit ahead of ourself, didn't we, saxons?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L58wYrsNv0
pretoria hurrah! (janus's elementary school sang THIS VERY SONG at our Christmas jamboree -- i still know every word to every anglo-saxon hymn of GLORY! what a fucking mess we've made of things! white man's burden? bah!)
we are marching straight to HELL, anglos!
wake the fuck up!
this was NOT the promise of our fathers!
let's give our sons something bettah!
fascism is NOT the comission of Christ!
we believe in RULES; and THAT is why the world has respected us!
now we are callow frauds!
we deserve everything we're gonna get.
mea culpa,
janus (and all his progenetors)
Did Biden get OK nod from the Chinese early?
Will this be the one that escalates into WWIII?