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UN Security Council Finds Iran Is Violating The Nuclear Weapons Program Ban
The good old Iraq playbook is being played to the dot, just less than a decade later, and now with Iraq neighbor off by just one letter: Iran. According to Haaretz, the UN Security council "denounced Iran's failure to abide by United Nations resolutions demanding an end to the possible weaponization of its nuclear program. The Denouncement comes after International Atomic Energy Agency submits a report claiming Iran continues to make advances in uranium enrichment beyond its needs for medical applications. The United States, Germany, France and Britain joined forces in exposing Tehran's advanced 20-per-cent uranium enrichment, which is considered military weapons grade. Tehran said its enrichment program was needed for medical and civilian uses. But the UN said Tehran has not been transparent and failed to cooperate with the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which recently submitted a report that Iran continued to make advances in uranium enrichment beyond its needs for medical applications." Whether the US, pardon the UN, will follow up with ever escalating following directives that ultimately lead to nothing short of a land invasion is unknown for now, but if history tis any precedent, the answer is a resounding yes. Furthermore, today's decision should be taken in context with the major article in the WSJ "US Eyes Covert Plan to Counter Iran in Iraq" which does nothing but set the scene for what will inevitably follow in a few weeks or months. Expect a flare up in anti-Iran rhetoric in the next few days.
From the WSJ:
Military commanders and intelligence officers are pushing for greater authority to conduct covert operations to thwart Iranian influence in neighboring Iraq, according to U.S. officials.
The move comes amid growing concern in the Obama administration about Iran's attempts in recent months to expand its influence in Iraq and the broader Middle East and what it says is Tehran's increased arms smuggling to its allies.
Compounding the urgency is the planned reduction in the U.S. military presence in Iraq by the end of the year, a development that many fear will open up the country to more influence from Iran, which also has a majority Shiite population.
If the request is approved by the White House, the authorization for the covert activity in Iraq likely would take the form of a classified presidential "finding." But unlike the secret order that authorized the Central Intelligence Agency's campaign against al Qaeda in 2001, the current proposal is limited in scope, officials said.
Officials declined to provide details about the kinds of covert operations under consideration, but said they could include more aggressive interdiction efforts at the Iraq-Iran border and stepped-up measures to stop Iranian arms smuggling after the American drawdown.
The United Nations has prohibited Iran from exporting arms. However, defense officials say, Tehran continues to supply weapons parts to Shiite militias in Iraq.
Right, and when it comes to "defense officials", we should always take their word, whether it is for secret knowledge of weapons of mass destruction, Iraq's massive nuclear armament, or any other watercooler soundbite that Joe Sixpack is delighted to regurgitate the next day to his minimally paid coworkers.
Iranian officials have repeatedly denied that they have played any role in arming militants in Iraq or worked to destabilize other Arab nations. Tehran has claimed the U.S. has leveled charges of arms smuggling to justify a continued American military presence.
As the NYT noted before contrary to Israel demand for an immediate invasion discussed previously, the US military still understands that yet another US-sponsored land invasion in the Middle East may prove complicated to be spun as a humanitarian intervention to even the greater American unwashed.
Both military and senior Obama administration officials believe they must proceed cautiously to ensure that any expansion in covert action doesn't prompt Tehran to retaliate and inadvertently trigger a wider conflict.
Yet behind all the media spin rhetoric, the stage is now set:
Special operations forces would have the ability to carry out risky capture-or-kill missions that the CIA may not be able to conduct on its own.
A new finding also would ensure that the CIA and military special-operations forces working for the agency have the legal ability under U.S. law to shut down the flow of arms from Iran to allied militia groups.
Other officials, including some in Congress, favor a broader secret campaign against Iran to block its support to Syria or to other militant groups elsewhere in the Middle East.
In retrospect, the only thing oil needs in addition to QE3 being launched in 2 weeks is a major military campaign against one of the biggest petroleum countries in the world. It does however, explain why WTI is now inching into $90s territory, and why Brent will soon take out its all time highs.
The full IAEA report can be found here.
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Not if the US is willing to deal energy rights up front with China.
If it escalates into Pakistan, then YES!
it's a race
will iran get their nukes before the us has compleated the encirlement and the afghan war is over
iran knows that they are next on the list and only nukes can save them
BULLSHIT!!!
Iran Lets the IAEA come in and complete inspections!
Israel DOES NOT!!! let the IAEA.. Israel has NEVER!! EVER!!! Let the IAEA in to even start an Inspection!!
But Iran is the EVIL that must be swept from the World! BULSHIT!!
The Government of Israel is the EVIL that MUST be swept from the World for EVERYONES SAFETY!!!
Germans are NOT! NAZI"S!!
ISRAEL ARE THE NAZI's!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeARZ9p9XqI
Israeli Settlers Burn Mosque and Desecrate Holy Objects near bethlehem also vandalize hexagrams on wall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C8o6Nr_eRE
Uploaded by RabbisforHumanRights on Oct 21, 2009 <----------------- Jews Filming what the Government of Israel.
[Filmed by ISM]: The footage you are about to view shows Israeli settlers threatening Palestinian olive harvesters from Jamain on two recent occasions, as well as trees belonging to Burin cut down underneath the settlement of Yitzhar. As a result of an Israeli High Court decision, Israeli security forces have been setting dates in which they protect harvesters from attack. However, they are not fulfilling their obligation to protect Palestinians and their property at all times. (Read More)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXLEHV0jYlk
Israeli settlers have repeatedly cut down fruit trees on Abu Haikal land close to their house. On 1 June 2010 settlers set fire to the almond trees. Here we see Mirav tending vegetables early in the morning on 12 July 2010.
If someone burned our Farms!
If someone destroyed our ability to provide for our Families!
What would "We the People" do??
I am NO! Nazi!! any more than the Rabbi's who filmed this video above!
I am no Nazi any more than the 500,000 Jews who are being Fleeced to pay for a the extermination of a People.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8IzZFwnxvA
In Israel, mainstream media are being accused of burying their heads in the sand over coverage of the biggest anti-government protests the country has seen in decades. Tens of thousands of people, fed up with deteriorating living standards, are staging demonstrations calling for Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu to stand down. But as Paula Slier reports from Tel Aviv, protesters' voices are simply going unheard by the rest of the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDJvhDLEdFw
Israelis skeptic of gov't- appointed committee to look into protest demands, organize biggest protest in country's history
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Israel's "March of the Million" brought out more people than any other protest in Israel's history. Meanwhile the government has decided to keep quiet, only appointing Professor Manuel Trachtenberg to head a committee to look into the demands of the J14 movement. Started on July 14, this march was the sixth in a row, and while many on the street have different ideas about how to move ahead, most have little faith in the Trachtenberg committee. The Real News' Lia Tarachansky reports from Tel Aviv and talks to protesters about how to move forward.
For Months this has been going on!
No Cable News Coverage! NONE!!
The Programing of the Sheep goes on un-checked!
what the do in the dark, away from prying eyes if far worse. call it for it is, the zionists are luciferians, as are most people at high levels in banks and corporations. the government goons just serve them. the signs and symbols are in plain view as most are too blind to ever see.
Hilter fought so-called the international Jewish bankers' control, and the Russian Jewish-influenced Soviets' business model, according to The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. Of course, history has always being written by the winners.
i knew it , it's always the jews!.
all 15 million of them shoudl be exterminated for their involvement in world affairs. this will solve everything!
if you see a jew, please notify homeland security immidiatley, unless dhs is already infiltrated! fuck!!!!!! were doomed!
NO one person above said anything like that.. NOT 1!!
that spin BULSHIT!! is what has gotten the World SOOOOOOOOOOOOO! FUCKED! UP!!
if we could just be honest.. the World would be a better place!
the white lies that are on FULL BLAST 24 Hours a day on Cable News that are supposed to make people feel good and keep them under control.. is why the World is Backwards!
The truth may be ugly on the front but the backside benefits are sooooo overwhelming that much better for all of us that it is worth it.
Just like whites, blacks, browns, yellows, most jews are asleep! Do these sleeping jews really think there will be a place-setting for them at Castle Rothschild when TSHTF? Give me a break! They are enslaved by the Debt Machine as much as anyone. STOOOOOOOPID!!!!!!!!!
where can i send some lit from J Steet, brlawyer.
imagine, for a moment (and it's my dream, too) that neither iran nor israel were theocracies....imagine, for a moment, that you hadn't any 'emotional' tie to the region.
now, step back, and take a look the geopolitics involved.
still think this is all about anti-semitism? it ain't.
i'll certainly concede that there's a healthy measure of it floatin around, and seein how world events are takin shape, it's going to get much, much worse for the world's innocent jews (the salt-of-the-earths, like you, brlawyer...who are just supporting a family (or whatever) and going about your lives). but when the world sees what it inerprets as bigotry from a certain people, and then they see financial crimes tethered to similar sounding names....you know how this all ends. this is not some tacit threat; i'm just as terrified as you (believe it or not, i have a few very dear jewish friends). now, i'm one of those who knows how the game is played (goldman is trying to learn our tricks -- see how they put goyim names out front, and hide the others behind walls of owneship?)...i know who's really guilty...and it ain't the jewish people, it's my people.
anyway, the reflexive 'it's always the jews' is just as counterproductive as the protocols of the learned elders of zion -- they spring from a similar place deep in the super-ego.
i will refer you to one of my heros, sigmund freud (he had one of dem names, too!)
tell me what's wrong without the paranoid victim-hood and janus will listen -- you have my word.
i'll be back...gotta teach my 13 year old how to site in a 270 (it's a bad-ass rifle with a 250+ yard range....ouch tptb!!!)
bang, bang,
JANUS
dat's what janus thought.
now, brlawyer, i ain't yer enemy -- but don't trust me. put that analytical training you spent six figures on to good use.
in fact, janus seein world events movin the way they are, if i were a jew, the LAST place i'd be livin is israel (see, i'm tryin to be nice, didn't even call it palastine) or new york.
tell me, is it not strange that the diaspora is concentrating itself in small areas. go ahead, my jewish friends, trust your 'leaders' like bibi and sheldon adelson; yeah, leave your shops and stores all across fly-over country. move to the big cities or go 'reclaim' the "promised land". whatever. just don't say you weren't warned.
spread out, my hebrew friends. small towns have always been your best friend. it's harder to round you up that way. i know this sounds awful -- but the Truth of it is mighty hard to escape (and it's really hard when you've allowed yourselves to be re-ghettoized...but the livin conditions are swank, janus! well, fer now they are. let's see you make that desert bloom without petros and their blood-drenched dollahs!)
again, don't take janus's word for it.
when the north wind blows, the monsoon's a commin!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrXM7fKKlR0
we could go right insane/
cause we could buy the time/
keep an eye/
on the sky/
will they come/
oh, the bombs/
do you wanna dance?/
easy, now, do you wanna dance,
janus
Governement responsiveness responsibility program.
1. Find out what people want.
2. Promise it in the future.
3. Ignore it.
If it persists.
1. Fire up label maker and put a lable create a "label" for it.
2. Falsely identify the danger and threat it poses.
3. Give it headwounds and taser burns.
If they don't respect you enough to not kill you. They sure don't respect you enough to tell you the truth.
You are talking about cutting fruit trees. These Jaws have ruined America financially to its core and never gave a shit.
Look up why Orange County is called that sometime.
BULLS@#T is the new normal for at least ten years now! Get used to it JW!
Although it is not all Obama's fault as the latest puppet, he, and Hillary, certainly are ceding our sovereignty even more to the UN. But the game plan of destabilizing MENA for the purposes of the further rape and pillage of resources has been planned by the CIA and pentagon since the early 1990s. The timetable has been moved forward because the pending global economic implosion may severely limit the ability of the elites to impose the end game of corporate world order; a totalitarian wet dream that will be based on the old feudal system.
Egypt, Lybia, Niger, Yemen, Somalia, Tunusia, Syria and then Iran, and then finally, Saudi Arabia.
Gas in the US goes to $6/gallon or higher. Mustn't let a good crisis go to waste.
+100.777
WMD's! Oh my...
Barama the assassin to the rescue.
The business of America is war..........The bankster/military industrial complex will not be denied........
even the greater American unwashed
The move to reduce phosphates in detergents is not without consequences.
Yes, out of the detergents and into our drinking water:)
It makes the fluoride taste more better.
U-235 is made weapons-grade through isotopic enrichment. It only makes up 0.7% of natural uranium, with the rest being almost entirely uranium-238 (U-238). They are separated by their differing masses. Highly enriched uranium is considered weapons-grade when it has been enriched to about 90% U-235.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons-grade
http://www.iranwatch.org/ourpubs/articles/iranucleartimetable.html
http://www.chemcases.com/nuclear/nc-07.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/05/weapons-grade-uranium-proces...
hmmm...the new and and improved 20 is the old 90.
Ooops. My post below was being typed the same time as yours ziggy59. We are in agreement.
Make that 3 of us.
pods
So when does Barry launch Operation Peace Prize...Part II?
France + UK + USA (all bankrupt) on one side v. Iran, Russia and China (all cash and resource rich) on the other side.
Should be interesting.
It started to look like biggest threat to the world peace is UN.
Since when is 20% enrichment "weapons grade?" 20% enrichment is the threshold between what is defined as "low enriched uranium" and "highly enriched uranium." 20% isn't weapons grade. 90% is the general cutoff, though that can vary depending on the system a bit.
I totally believe Iran is not living up to the spirit and possibly the letter of the law of the non-proliferation treaty, but 20% enriched material won't get you a bomb. Sounds like part of a psy-op campaign.
No Shait!
OK, next.... France (Snarkozie) said the other day that "somebody" was gonna not put up with this shit, reminiscent of His and The Brits pissing and mosning about the Human Rights Violations in Libya and look where that got us, eh?
And of course, the US got involved before turniong it over to NATO...
Eh, hemmm.
But this is bigger.
Even fits the Grand Plan, 5 countries in 7 years...
War! War! we must have more wars! Not just a small war ,they must be bigger. THey must be more action packed. It's good for TV ratings. We interrupt this regularly schedule bombing with a word from our sponsors.We must invade or bomb every brown skinned country we can!
Sarc off
Karma is a bitch. We are going to pay a big price for this some day.
Well if ever there was a time to speed up the enrichment process, it is now. Talk about a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Iran is damned if they do, damned if they don't. I wish the US would pick on someone who can actually fight back - these bullying techniques will be quite embarrassing when the oppressed decide to push back with more force than they currently deploy (hey! another self-fulfilling prophecy!)
I agree with Rothbard when it comes to war: the US should just invade every country on earth and get it over with.
You don't speed up the enrichment process. If the neutrons hit the U235 too fast and hot they won't "stick" and enrich it to plutonium 239. They'll fission. Enrichment isn't about speeding things up. it's quite literally about slowing things down and it's slowed down with just the right amount of water to pass through in the cooling chamber.
Who gives a shit about Iran?! How about Fukushima!
What about it. It's killing people as intended at an ever increasing rate. As long as it turns alaska into a giant fucking morgue by next summer that's all I care about. Run those fucking nuts out of their haarp station.
Thanks for the clarification - obviously I'm not a nuclear scientist!
What I should have said was the incentive to have a nuclear weapon has increased; the sooner the better.
Iran will get their nuclear weapons, they got the green light from Obama a long time ago, and there will be war one way or another. Persian vs Arab, or they gang up on Israel first. The MB in the Arab states are consolidating and the stage is being set. Obama sides with the MB.
It's not Persian vs. Arab ... it's Christian [+ silent Sunni Muslim support] vs. Shi'ite Muslim. This is why all the Shi'ite countries are on the attack/eliminate calendar: Yemen, Bahrain, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan.
It's a religious thing (can you believe that this BS is still going on in the 21st Century!?!) ... the Shi'ites have the temerity to believe that their Imam is a direct descendant of Muhammad, and therefore an "infallible" messenger of Dog. (The Sunni Imam is not a descendant of Muhammad and all the Sunni rulers are puppets of the NWO). This doesn't sit well with the Pope (and his 2 billion followers), who claims he is the only "infallible" messenger of Dog. So, one of them has to go!
Of course, after that little internecine struggle has been sorted, the Luciferians will use their control over the Pope (which has waxed and waned over the centuries, but is currently at a high point with Benedict XVI Ratzinger) and Washington DC to impose their NWO over an exhausted and impoverished globe. (Well ... that's the plan, anyway).
The more Iran sells oil in something other than USD, the more we'll hear about WMD. Iran's closest neighbors, like China and Russia, don't give a shit about Iran's nuclear ambitions.
Make no mistake, you either play ball with the world's elites or you'll be branded an outlaw. And there are no lies or propaganda that are considered off-base.
The frustrating thing is that the lies work for 90+% of the population.
pods
Prayer and fasting, bitchez.
I don't get what all the fuss is about.
I mean, what could possibly go wrong with a weapons-grade nuclear program in a country lead by fanatical mullahs waiting for the coming of the 12th (or is it 13th?) Imam.......
Blue pillers unite!:)
People Junk People without knowing what the deal is!!! once again!!
I am a Nazi up at the top and now I will be a Towel Head Hater at the bottom!! I guess becuase some ignorant fuck can click a down arrow and not repsond (like the fucking cowards they are)..
any way enough of my bruised ego..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwiadYT-N9k
WAKE UP!!! THE Muslim Spring is NOT! what CNN / Fox News tells you it is!!!
what, exactly is the 'Muslim Spring', then, jay-dub, in your own words, with no links or videos?
tyler didn't mention it in his intro & analysis; the wsj didn't mention it; nobody else has mentioned it; except you (pardon me if i missed something; just point out where i'm wrong & i'll gladly admit it, ok?)
and maybe why it is relevant, here, along the way, ok?
apparently you link junking V_tung with bloggers on zeroHedge believing MSM propaganda about the m. spring so they are ignorant fucks and cowards! so what is it, w/out the "spin"? your own understanding?
if people are constantly misunderstanding you, perhaps you are not communicating as clearly and concisely as you might, that's all
So now weapons grade stuff is 20%?
Or is that just the floating description needed for war?
pods
When they start throwing the babies out of the incubators, thats the last straw.
Too bad we scrapped the space program I would have loved to inhabit a different planet because Im growing quickly tired of the games on this one.
The lies aren't even good ones any more.
The space program is still alive and well, but at the pentagon only now. Don't ask. It's a secret.
Yeah..Nat Rothschild has been talking to the russian oil companies lately. I started buying shares of a wide basket of them about a year ago. Rosneft, Bashneft, Lukoil etc..
Ain't happening.
If the US had plans to to into Iran, we would not be drawing down our forces in Iraq.
Unless some Military Intel weinie can tell me we are leaving our heavy equipment in some depots out in the desert.
The objective is not to win, it's to spend.
One thing is clear, no country can afford to pick a fight (war) with USA. So few brain got togather and found out how to destroy America as we know it. They started giving America easy money (loan). Just like native Americans are being eliminated with diabetes. Now we are on daily dose of insulin.
The basis for any country seeking Nuclear weapons is to keep it safe from being invaded by the US.
Working for North Korea so far.
would it be ok to see what israel is doing at dimona and also in their biological weapons program?
that would be considered "anti-semitic"...as are any and all questions about israel. When all else fails...cry "antisemite!!!!"
I thought that we could deal with Iran by sending them a computer virus?
Watch out, they're going to send Hans Blix!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSXNJMP8ir4
Ruh roh!
Yea but Iran has a lot of Sunburst missiles, goodbye aircraft carriers, and where did all thoes nukes go when the USSR fell
Message to UN Security Council: "Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel" Matt 23:24 - KJV
The gnat, in this case, being Iran's nook-u-lar (thank you George) weapons capability, with the camel, of course, being the nook-u-lar (thanks again George - that'll be all for today, now run along...) weapons capability of APBNC (a particularly belligerent neighbouring country).
Must be near the end-game if they have to resort to the idiotic & tiresome WMD ruse again. Assume the crash-landing position.
thought i may find you loiterin round here, Frankie!
well, since 'you people' place such an emphasis on 'economy' (did janus word that palpably?), i'll keep this as short as possible:
brevity is...wit.
so, since we're revealin who we 'really' are. janus is commin clean, too. i've always tried to effect the southern gentleman (weird freudian abberation...you'll see); but my momma in bedford stiverson kept smakin me upside my head wid da black-eye-pea spiked collard greens...never really got through -- we are what we are.
anyway, me sportin the southern gentleman thing and fightin hard for gaza tends to conjure up some pejorative appelations that 'you people' sometimes gape with wondered indignation over...really, the terms are belly-laugh makin stuff, but some are incapable of detatched reflection. one such fleshy fecker is abe foxman. he...well (again, 'economy'), let's just say i had to do a bit of community service to make amends. everything's cool now. i got to tote his son-in-law around on a chair and trod to shards a few wine glasses -- a good time was had by ALL! and who says we can't have peace in the middle east.
well, without further ado, here's janus's absolution and penance to new york's thin-skinned jewish community:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6V2oCX3Hn4&feature=related
and, well, if you were wondering what became of therapy sessions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTj47rcuM-4
thank you for showing me that there really is love in my family; and that i need to stay the hell away from them. i don't wanna dog-fight no more,
tracy
I guess this explains oil being up almost 4%???
So wait, Israel never violated this ban?
BFD. The UN is toothless and should remain so.
Newbie here, Two thoughts, This nothing but saber rattling, nobody's attacking Iran unless they want to deal with China.
Second, Kinda tinfoil but, this goes out to get at Ron Paul. I bet internal polling shows that he is closer to getting the nomination than is comfortable for the PTB. Two birds one stone.
Good analysis T. D.!
I am Tuco and I say "N.W.O. - D.O.A."
New World Order - Dead on Arrival!
Good point, he has said that even the C.I.A. does not claim to know they have a bomb or a plan to build one. I guess this could be a PTB reaction to cover that base.
Not likely! Ron Paul's odds of being the Republican presidential nominee are currently running at 3.4% on Intrade.com ... AND he is now backing off his campaign against Perry.
In the words of Persian Queen frontman Freddie Mercury "We will, we will rock you"
Buddy you’re a young man hard man
Shoutin’ in the street gonna take on the world some day
You got blood on yo’ face
You big disgrace
Wavin’ your banner all over the place
So, where do these countries and the US get off exposing Iran's junk? WTF. If someome blew the hell out of us, and our allies, we would, hopefully, fight back, using any methods we could. I think Ron Paul said that "we went there first." I would defend America to the hilt if attacked; at the same time, anyother country (s) have the same right. I am tired of bully America devising slick little reasons to invade Iraq, Afganistan, Lybia, Yemen, etc., to get oil and set up Central banking systems.
I am tired of declaring war on countries illegally and hiring poor American boys as mercenaries to go fight, thinking they are fighting for "liberty and freedom." What Shit. You know, these are dumb kids, low class working boys. The middle class and rich kids are all working on Wall Street.
I am also tired of being treated like a circus dupe, not knowing yesterday from today regarding economics, monetary policy and the illegal crap that is going on. The American public is being shit on big time, and even to this day it does not realize it. Semper Fi.
And, finally, I am tired of these mindless pundits blaming all our woes on medicare and social security WHEN they don't even know or understand them and the procedures. Putting the blame for Americas contrived problems on the backs of the old, sick and downtrodden is the most cowardly, phoney and unctuous (sp?) crap that I have ever seen: bring on the wars, bring on the Wall Street scaming, the Bank graft, and the huge bonuses. Fuck grandma, fuck grandpa, and revel in the knowledge that America has leveled itself to 0; pretty soon, by percentages and history, the upper 5% will find itself drownding in its own blood.
"I am tired of declaring war on countries illegally and hiring poor American boys as mercenaries to go fight, thinking they are fighting for "liberty and freedom." What Shit. You know, these are dumb kids, low class working boys. The middle class and rich kids are all working on Wall Street."
Exactly! It is okay for these poor men and women to use depleted uraniums rounds too. Prior to 1991 that was not the case. But radioactive isotopes are no longer a concern in the world as now they are apparently safe.
Here's something that will really make your blood boil. Do you know why Iran hates us?
I know others have alluded to this in our discussion.
Study history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat#World_War_II
No, sorry, they hate us fer our freedom! ;-)
The goal is the destruction of the cultures and the countries of the Middle East by using the brawn of the US - which will also achieve the dual goal of destroying the US economically and what is left of its reputation in the world.
Neo-con playbook.
Not the "Neo-con" playbook, but the "globalist corporate fascists" playbook.
we only want the bombs
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7KAA-FSZho
"But the UN said Tehran has not been transparent ......"
Do you mean like the U.S. govt, Wall Street and Big Banks: hypocrisy
at it's best!
I agree that it's a given that the Iranian issue will be used politically to distract from the continued collapse of the entitlement state. *However* I think it is also obvious (and has been for years) that Iran is working to create nuclear weapons. Bush lacked the political capital to confront this issue and Obama probably lacks the spine.
Where does America get this moral superiority to develop nuclear weapons and ascribe them them to other countries--or deny them? From "God?" What is this? The 1600s? Who the hell do we think we are? China and many countries of the world were here centuries before we were, with cultures that even today exceed ours.
As a country to deign yourself as superior and all-knowning is great in the short-term, but Alexander and Hitler learned that arrogance and power were very tenuous and short-lived. My hope is that Obama finds himself in a Berlin style bunker in the short term and Americans find themselves under the control of someone far more benevolent and understanding and, yes, decent, than what has evolved in my lifetime.
Without comment...except heh.
h/t CmdrM.
Homeland Security Department: 'Colossal, Inefficient Boondoggle' http://defense.aol.com/2011/09/06/homeland-security-department-colossal-inefficient-boondoggle/The Brits were the first to discover oil in Iran, and they made a fortune off it there for many years. Now they just want their cash cow back. When push comes to shove and when complete economic collapse is on NATO's doorstep, these wealthy third world countries sitting on mountains of oil are going to have a tough time keeping it.
That is just B-E-U-ti-ful... Prepare for gold launch...
1. War with Iran = continuation of waste and corruption at the Pentagon … $ 2 Trillion and counting...
2. Land attack on Iran = expansion into Pakistan and that inevitably leads to real military conflict with China. If that happens, be sure “nuclear” option in FX and bond market is on the table.
3. Before all the action, war needs to be sold to the public. Colin Powell with the vial of anthrax will not work this time around, rather false flag operation like Golf of Tonkin or USS Liberty. Bibi has a lot of problems with protesters (economy) recently, so he has multiple reasons to start new war as a distraction from ongoing domestic situation and Palestinian Statehood recognition by UN is on the way.
4. In such a case, CL goes above $150 p/brl, GC $2.5K p/oz
5. If all of above happens, we are totally toasted!
WE have ZERO strategic interest in supporting Israel. Our goal should be making friends with countries that matter there, not supporting a bunchs of thugs...
Let Israel do whatever they want, and let Arabs do whatever they want. We shouldn't even be there. If they want to resolve their issues, then let them to do it. What it has to do with USA? No one is aiming their rockets at USA - they are aiming them at Israel, Iran, etc.
Let them play their bloody games. Save American lives, and trillions of dollars. Bring all foreign based soldiers back home - so they can defend their homeland, and not the bunch of assholes.
If I were the Iranians, I would pull out all stops to get my nuke built and tested before Obama leaves office. It is clear that Obama is not going to initiate any kind of military action, so they should "make hay while the sun shines". Who knows? The next president might be a Texan and Texan presidents have initiated three out of the last three US wars. (Yes, I know you can argue that Kennedy got us into Vietnam, not Johnson. But when Kennedy was killed, we weren't in very deep and we still might have pulled out. So I give Kennedy the benefit of the doubt.)
The decision to go to war is placed high above the level of the Puppet in Chief!
Can't believe CIA/Mossad would contemplate bombing or invading Iran..
A land battle with Iran let alone strategic bombing/drones would unleash hell on earth. I can't even count the reasons why this is a bad idea.
We would have open warfare in Let's see: Iran, Iraq, Most of the Istan's plus the known ones (Afganistan, Pakistan), Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, Israel, The West bank, Gaza, Egypt, Libya, Bahrain,
The maybees: N. & S Korea, Taiwan, China, India, Russia's Satellites of love.
Not even counting the false flags or unscripted (real) terrorist killings in maybe your town
This to me is doubtful, "They woulden't be that stupid!!
Or would they?
Can you imagine Strait of Hormuz permanently blocked and Saudi oilfields including their refineries on fire?! This is what will happen after first carpet bombing aka Shock&Awe II!
Agree here too. There is not much that the US or others can do given Iran's standing army.
I also can't blame Iran for pursuing nukes either. Bush Jr. rebuffed the moderates who wanted to normalize relations with the west and offered to help us with tracking down Bin Laden (the offer was made through the Swiss, check your history naysayers before jumping on me here).
So once they were lumped in as part of the axis of evil and we invaded Iraq, things changed quickly and the conservative clowns took over Iran. The North Korea experience shows that no one f*&ks with you if you've got nukes.
Do as I say,NOT as I do,comes to mind.
Fuck You....UN.
Isn't the UN just a private elite club,that dictates what Israel (Rothschilds)
want.
Kinda like NATO.......
a WHOLE LOT.
Looks like the Iranian "poor mans doomsday weapon" for satellites (a ball bearing bomb into LEO is back in play, kinda wondered why the ISS is soon to be unmanned...
20% is weapons grade? Since when? It's more like 80-90%. Iran isn't anywhere close to being able to produce a nuclear bomb.
More blatant propaganda.
Wash, rinse, repeat. With their infrastructure it is trivial to refine to weapons grade. Furthermore, why do you think they're not "anywhere close" when we and other did the task in 2 years or less, without even knowing if it would work? Uranium fission bombs are a textbook excercise, just as Freddie "Nuclear" Winterburg.
Your post, though obviously misinformed and untrue, does beg the question of "so what?" and "who stands to gain?"
I've been wondering for a while if the US would finally dispense with the sanctimonious veneer of 'just war'? With the economic state of afairs tightly spiralling down the toilet on the way to the sewer, will Americans finally admit that they need these wars to prop up a dying way of life. America's just war policies are about as meaningful as a "No Blood For Oil" bumper sticker on the back of a Hummer. Is the average soccer-mom willing to give up her 3200 sq. ft. home and Suburban so that wars for oil and scarce resources are no longer necessary? Doubt it. She'll slap a magnetic yellow ribbon on the back of her car, and keep gobbling up the lies while making her kids into thoughtless, albiet patriotic consumers on her husband's middle-management dime. Who gives a damn about the structural evils of our own society, bought in blood? She's got a dinner party with the girls planned where they can get together and watch Keeping Up With the Kardashians.
If our government did dispense with the lies and came clean with the public, letting them know that these wars will persist to preserve our way of life, there would be no fuss from a great majority of the public. Even if they knew, they wouldn't care. The fact of the matter is we have been a land-grabbing, resource hoarding nation for the sum of our entire existence in one way or another, it's in our DNA. I don't see Vietnam-type protests gripping the nation, not enough people really care. Those who do will simply be marginalized or worse. But until this whole game collapses into economic and political anarchy, and people are having to make choices that will ensure their abilities to eat and simply survive, I don't see anything changing anytime soon.
I'd like to see the Gold Cartel try to keep the PM's down that day!!!
We would see grocery stores, military surplus, banks, Outdoor endeavor types, gas stations, Gun&Ammo stores literally cleaned out....
Even the Zombies among us would wake up eventually and that would be all she wrote....
I don't know exactly how wide the Straits of Hormuz is at it's leanest but my guess is you woulden't be able to fit a turd between all the warships and ultra-amphibian stuff we pleb's don't even know about!!!
We are saddened you do not live up to your name.
You almost started a riff there (Ghostbusters: "Gozer the Traveler. He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!") which would have been a hit, given 'cats and dogs, living together' was an inspired choice by Tyler not so long ago.
But overly vague 80's film reference & gold bugs was too weak to really hold - fiat crash porn too obvious - zombie apocalypse mixed with popular music (TI / Enimem, "No mercy", right?) missed the period / temporal height of the two genres (to gel, you must share meta-reference - temporal are common or thematic) - paranoid cold war couch warrior (scatological language too polite) mixed with oil politics doesn't slide either.
None of it feels organic to me, it feels like pastiche. Sadly, that isn't a compliment.
Delueze is all about organic rhizomatic attack; plastic isn't plastique... If you're going to use the technique, here's a free tip: rhyming couplets are the lowest form of poetry, unless you're subverting the form. Merely adding !!111!!!1 isn't enough to bind the form or subvert it. Less shotgun, more sniper rifle please.
Apologies to casual viewers for the meta-critique.
PS If "THEY" really decide going into Iran, extend operation to neighboring countries, strategically aiming at China and Russia that will spark XE style civil response within US as well EU not mentioning other actions more harmful to the system. So, everyone should watch out what she/he wishes for! This is going to be one war too much.
20% uranium enrichment is now weapon grade? How freaking dumb do they think we are?
It's a trivial matter to enrich from 20% given their infrastructure.
The question isn't whether or not Iran is or wants to build a bomb. It should be obvious to anybody with eyes and they do.
The question is: what are the implications?
The only nation ever to use nuclear weapons, and those against civilian populations, is fulminating about a nation which is no objective threat to any one? Christ, if I were Persia, I would make damn sure I had nukes - at least 300 - if only to counter my mad-dog neighbours and their enabler, Uncle Scam. But this WMD, Part Deux absurdity is a fatuous distraction. The real possibility of real nuclear war is centered on the Line of Control between India and Pakistan in Kashmir, where Uncle Scam is - of course - up to his bankrupt nuts in intrigue. The US government has become the worst terrorist the world has ever known. How much longer must we endure this fascist force for evil? It is high time men of peace pulled the plug on London's hammer. Bankruptcy will help. A lot.
"The only nation ever to use nuclear weapons, and those against civilian populations..."
And you know what?...I'm cool with that.
My dad was in the Pacific Theater...he met my mom after the war.
And here I am ;-)
A BOOTS ON THE GROUND is NOT possible in IRAN.
Our Troops have HAD it.
Most are on their 3-4-5-6 tours, and a LOT are committing suicide, and going to the looney bins from all the war,without any rest.
We have over 10,000 Ex Iraq, Afghan Vets LIVING on the street now,with NO HELP.\
Just like Vietnam all over.
DZ
If the west want's Iran's oil (and you know it does) boots on the ground is the only way to seize it. Iran is 636,000 square miles Iraq was only 167,000 . Iran has 74 million people. Iraq only 31 million. It's going to be a lot tougher. But with Peak Oil sapping our energy, as some of us believe, this is the dread end game none of us want to watch.
Why are we in Afghanistan if not to set up the bases for our victorious pincer movement. This time around we will have more allies with boots on the ground.
To get China and Russia to go along with this, will take an offer they can't refuse and I don't mean the Godfather kind. Hope you're well.
This article is just more sabre-rattling. America & NATO will not take any substantial action against Iran, even if Iran succeeds in building nukes.
Pakistan has nukes yet we hear nothing about Pakistan, because Pakistan doesn't have any substantial oil.
It's not about nukes. It's about oil. America would use any justification possible to go in an take over Iran's oil, just like Lybia, just like Iraq.
All I can say is attacking Iran would be attacking China, and Russia by association. Neither nation would put up with it.
America's leaders would be signing America's death warrant if they attack Iran. But they're criminallly insane enough they just might do it.
UN security council.
CFR.
Club of Rome.
ADL.
What's the differance?
cranky old geezer,
< America would use any justification possible to go in an take over Iran's oil, juwt like Lybia, just like Iraq>
You seen any contracts or US oil companies pumping either of these two countries oil?.
I don't I see them selling the shit to China, and Ruissia.
The UN. Bleah.
One speech results in a vote adequate to pick a fight in Libya.
Iran builds nukes for years and UN does nothing.
I tell you what will pick a fight. Palistine State hood. Once that passes the UN, all bets are off.
I would just as soon as evict the UN from our USA starting with the NYC location and have them go somewhere else where they can do the most good without being a cancerous parasite on our own Nation.
At it again Tyler! 20% is research grade. Weapons grade is 90%. Feel very alone.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/idf-home-front-command-likelihood-of-all-out-middle-east-war-increasing-1.382728
http://news.antiwar.com/2011/09/05/israeli-general-predicts-all-out-war-with-wmds/
...Iran Israel Nukes and an Expanding Global Economic Black Hole, sounds prophetic. Next thing yuh know there will be earthquakes tsunamis floods tornados ...oh. lol
All you need to know about what really happened in the Iraq WMD debacle. It wasn't war mongering, the US was actually stitched up!
http://germanywatch.blogspot.com/2011/09/wmd-and-germanys-dirty-secret.html