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Unadjusted January Retail Sales Post Biggest Sequential Plunge In History

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The topic of BLS propaganda seasonal adjustments has been discussed extensively here especially in light of January's NFP beat. We'll leave it at that. However, we were rather surprised to note that the Census Bureau may have also ramped up its seasonal adjustment "fudge factoring" because when looking at the January headline retail sales data, which naturally was a smoothly continuous line on a Seasonally Adjusted basis, rising from $399.9 billion in December to $401.4 billion in January, something rather odd happened in the Unadjusted data set: the plunge from $459.8 billion in December to $361.4 billion in January, or -$98.5 billion in one month, was the biggest one month drop in retail sales in history. Now we won't say much on this topic, suffice to say that it would be far more useful if the BLS and Census Bureaus were to open up their models and explain in nuanced detail just what "old normal" adjustments they still incorporate into data sets. Because as many have already noted, seasonal adjustments used for data from 1980 to 2008 when "up" was the only allowed direction for everything, are completely irrelevant and misleading in the New Deleveraging Normal. Which reminds us: Zero Hedge will offer $10,000 to the first BLS employee to share with us the full and complete excel model set, including assumptions, data tables, and comprehensive output parameters that the agency uses to go from input A to output X. We hope that by spending that money we will finally do society a service and open up to everyone just how it is that the BLS adjusts its Non-Farm Payrolls data.

As for Unadjusted retail sales, here they are:

 


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Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:15 | Link to Comment JohnnyBriefcase
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I'll reserve my judgement until the TV tells me how I feel about this.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:22 | Link to Comment Badabing
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I love the smell of fake numbers in the morning!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:24 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBonus_
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I told you! Central banks are colluding with primary dealers to tighten credit and put the squeeze on retail stocks! When is the SEC going to put a stop to this manipulative tightening!? Central banks need to loosen monetary policy in line with poor consumer spending figures, and retail banks need to provide easy credit to boost aggregate demand.

 

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:26 | Link to Comment brewing
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you're the best troll ever...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:27 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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...except all the other ones.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:43 | Link to Comment idea_hamster
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OK -- Here you go:

the full and complete excel model set

=[type in number from AgitProp office]

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:52 | Link to Comment Vampyroteuthis ...
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No no. Here is the true excel model set:

Sales =[Whatever the squid and banksters say it is]

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:59 | Link to Comment idea_hamster
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You say that like "squid and banksters" are (i) different from one another, and (ii) not the "AgitProp office."  I beg to differ on both accounts!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:28 | Link to Comment redpill
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I assume Census uses X-12-ARIMA for their seasonal adjustment on this release like they do for their other releases, which basically means they put all the data in a giant sausage maker and some smooth-lined goop is supposed to come out the other side.  If you're morbidly curious you can look through the documentation and even download and install Win-X12 and mess with it to see what you can come up with, but it's not a particularly enjoyable experience from what I remember the last time I tried it.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:57 | Link to Comment Sun_Tzu
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Let's see: An all-season record negative raw number becomes a small positive after "seasonal adjustment".  Translation: We lose $100 on every sale, but we make it up on volume.

Well, at least it does shed some light on the adjustments they use to get the implausible unemployment numbers!

Fine Art, Bitchez!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 12:33 | Link to Comment trav7777
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all that matters now is whether the Fed is going to buy the stock market.  No clue how much more in profits can be wrung from this...the whole thing goes over the falls when iShit becomes passe

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 20:16 | Link to Comment TexasAggie
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Remember this is the modern GIGO. Garbage in, Gospel Out.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:51 | Link to Comment Don Birnam
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"Zero Hedge will offer $10,000 to the first BLS employee to share with us the full and complete excel model set..."

I expect a return on this modest investment -- I would observe, however, that the source being a government clodpate, would have turned for much less.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:29 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Is there a troll of the year award?  In the context of a trading site, MDB is simply the best.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:35 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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I would nominate Joe Weisenthal @TheStalwart as a pretty good paper troll.  He was expecting phenominal retail sales.  Hopium is a wonderful thing.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:55 | Link to Comment StockHut
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Joe Wiesenthal is a cancer to the internet.  That man should be banned from publishing anything economic related.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:45 | Link to Comment brewing
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hard to beat "robotrader" though...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:12 | Link to Comment Zymurguy
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Naw, you're not a troll if you truly believe what you say.

 

MDB doesn't really believe the stuff he says... I've seen a few cracks in his facade based on word choice, sentence structure, continuity, etc.  Robo on the otherhand is a true whack-job!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:45 | Link to Comment Almost Solvent
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And we used to get trolls like Johnny Bravo & Master Bates who would at least stick around and argue their troll droppings.

 

Most trolls these days are dump and run.

 

MDB is the best deadpan delivery I've seen with the written word - pure comic genius.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:29 | Link to Comment JohnnyBriefcase
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I love you.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:44 | Link to Comment economics1996
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MDB, that was funny!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:47 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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8

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:21 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Or we could declare financial and moral bankruptcy; start over by working for a living.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment Eisenhorn
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In other news:

 

  • GREEK GOVERNMENT HIRES US BLS AND CENSUS BUREAU TO CALCULATE GDP.
  • GREEK GOVERNMENT FORECASTS GDP GROWTH OF 136% BY 2013.
  • TROIKA SAYS GREEK GOVERNMENT MEETING GOALS FOR SECOND BAILOUT.

 

 

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 12:00 | Link to Comment collon88
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MDB...I love the smell of your scarcasm in the morning.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:26 | Link to Comment pods
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Well the radio was really giddy about it.  As they were about some new poll that Santorum was ahead.  That led the newscast.  

Funny though, they made it seem that there were only 3 candidates left on the GOP side.

Must have been an accident.

pods

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:31 | Link to Comment JohnnyBriefcase
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Huh. I thought they were all just Obama in whiteface.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:51 | Link to Comment a growing concern
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Are you sure Obama isn't just a more well spoken Dubya in blackface?

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:07 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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sure says "ummmmmm" a lot for being well spoken...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 12:54 | Link to Comment Jena
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Particularly when the telepromter isn't around to tell him what to say.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:31 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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Santorum lead the newscast?  Ahead of Whitney?  Who botched that one?  :D

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:35 | Link to Comment Yes We Can. But...
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Prolly a Christian station

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:32 | Link to Comment carguym14
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Same here-over and over on the radio how "retail sales are up",recovery in progress.

The gov has to hope the majority stay dumb enough to buy into it......

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:36 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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'Buying into it' has a sticking point when they cant afford to buy into enough food to have dinner.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 12:20 | Link to Comment FlyoverCountryS...
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The TRUTH no longer matters, just the narrative.

Isn't Obamunism WUNNERFUL?

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Abiotic Oil
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It's all about the delegates and he-who-shall-not-be-named actually has the most.  Popular vote is meaningless.

That's pretty funny though that "Frothy" Rick Santorum who couldn't get re-elected to his Senate seat and got tossed out on his ass by his constituents now thinks he is somehow electable on a national scale.

 

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:58 | Link to Comment pods
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I could tell it was a commercial for him.  Thought it was an ad for GM.

You almost cannot even listen to the headlines anymore.  

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:35 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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LOL...thats even if they report this:

The plunge from $459.8 billion in December to $361.4 billion in January, or -$98.5 billion in one month, was the biggest one month drop in retail sales in history.

Oh yeah, I foresee a real BIG round of hiring this summer. 

In a sense, the corporations are in a bind here.  They have to hire debtors because the banks that lend THEM money, and the governments that give THEM tax breaks, are pressuring them to reciprocate whatever profts they do earn, back into the communities in the form of jobs nad investment.

The growth we have, isn't healthy growth.  It's just more McStuff being shuffled from port to port, store to store.  My friend and I on Sunday night, as we walked from a pub in Cambridge, were ASTONISHED to see the sale signs at the shops.  "40% off, 50% off, 75% off!" There is always Janurary sales in the retail sector....but NOTHING like this.

The MAIN problem the BLS doesn't foucs on is, these new jobs do not come close to the wages that keep up with the money supply (which will most likely expand again after more Eurozone shenanegians).  The lack of benefits leads to lack of security; which in turn, leads to public panic.  And when young people are not employed, as we see in Greece, act a fool. 

In the end, this all means more money for the banks (as consumers get serious about a)getting more debt to keep their McLife afloat or B) paying down debt=bad for economy) and landlords (as renting goes up for those under 35...again, more money for banks), and less for the retail shops (who will probably end up consolidating, which is NOT good for the free market). 

As Stephanie Kelton said on Twitter, "Workers are getting hammered".  And she isn't just talking about the dude bros hitting up $1 draft night at the local pub on a Friday night.

Nevermind that all of these "cooked" BLS U3 numbers WILL have a market correction at some point after the election.  They always do, no matter what sides wins.

2013 might be the Year of the Great Layoff.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:15 | Link to Comment Corn1945
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Government data is totally useless at this point.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:21 | Link to Comment brewing
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we'll see how people spend their money when gasoline gets to $4/gal soon...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:33 | Link to Comment Manthong
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And so this is what the masses and young fund managers get with their morning coffee and croissants...

"The figures follow a report earlier this month that showed improvement in the labor market may help sustain spending. Employers added 243,000 jobs in January, the most since April, and the unemployment rate dropped to a three-year low of 8.3 percent, according to the Labor Department."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-14/retail-sales-in-u-s-rose-in-january-as-shoppers-sought-post-holiday-sales.html

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:34 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Which explains Tyler's offer of $10,000 to lift the BLS veil.

"Zero Hedge will offer $10,000 to the first BLS employee to share with us the full and complete excel model set, including assumptions, data tables, and comprehensive output parameters that the agency uses to go from input A to output X."

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:49 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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US Census data is the best data on the planet. Interestingly...only the Chinese have a history of "counting their people" the way the US has done since its inception. Moreover with the information age the need for really doing this anymore has pretty much been obviated. As data collection services explode throughout the planet "those who put the data to effective use first" win. That would be Time Warner, Bloomberg News, News Corp, Al Jazeera etc. "And there's your vast right wing conspriracy" as they say cuz everyone of these entities is run by "the utmost of so called conservatives." Don't worry tho...they won't be voting for Rick Santorum. (not that they're concerned about a President Santorum of course. They'd love that!) Insofar as labor numbers go--they'll take you bet i imagine...then reclassify the bulk of the American people as farmers! (and if you think that's funny...believe it or not that's EXACTLY how it was done for almost 300 years in the USA. It wasn't until World War II that reliable data for economic statistical purposes was created. Combined with a company called IBM and suddenly--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQRIOKvR2WM&feature=player_detailpage

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:17 | Link to Comment BW
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Business is not booming.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:20 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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I disagree. A kid in our neighborhood could not find a job, so he started a repo business with his uncle.  Damn kid made more last month than I did right out of of school with an engineering degree.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:25 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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"repo-ing" is going to be big pretty soon.  'course it be the "looting" version, but that's just semantics.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 12:11 | Link to Comment aerojet
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"It's a golden age for the repo men, one that will never end."

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 12:55 | Link to Comment donsluck
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On a personal level, that is the key. It is an aspect of the Dao, balance. As the corporations eat everything and exploit everyone, one by one individuals find their niche and succeed.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:18 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Did you hear that Whitney Houston died?

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:19 | Link to Comment Schmuck Raker
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Better than expected.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:22 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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Yes - and let's talk about it because that will make us feel a little better in the face of this devastating loss.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Should give a boost to the music companies with the upcoming tribute albums(can you call them that any longer ?). That's good for retail sales. No?

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:23 | Link to Comment fuu
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The fark headline was hilarious, "Whitney beats Bobby Brown to death."

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:25 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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Between that and the "birth control" debate one has decided that Seinfeld reruns really are the only thing worth watching on TV.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:28 | Link to Comment brewing
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sarcasm, in it's finest hour...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:36 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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Ah, but with Netflix, I can watch reruns of The Rat Patrol whenever I want.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:39 | Link to Comment fuu
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They got "Daktari" on there?

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:43 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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No :( but they do have Flipper.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:24 | Link to Comment LFMayor
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+1   I fired up rat patrol again just this past week.  I had forgotten the squealing tire sounds on the sand, hell, they beat the Dukes of Hazard by a good decade :0

Don't know if you've seen it, but you might enjoy "Play Dirty" with Michael Caine, avail on Netflix instant, too.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:27 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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Excellent - thanks!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment pods
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Everyone loves... the king of the sea....

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:44 | Link to Comment brewing
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"Voyage to the bottom of the Sea" on HULU.  Same place the US dollar is going...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:10 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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coming from your avatar, that "DAKTARI" reference was hilarious! +1

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:36 | Link to Comment fuu
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<bow>

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 21:54 | Link to Comment WolfePaq
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I actually have Rat Patrol on my netflix instant list- reminds me of a simpler time...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:51 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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haven't gotten lucky lately i see. try "stickin' it in the street"....

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:55 | Link to Comment a growing concern
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Wait, when was Seinfeld ever not the only thing worth watching on TV?  Well, I guess you gotta count Ice Road Truckers, too.  

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:13 | Link to Comment a growing concern
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Newman!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:32 | Link to Comment Clueless Economist
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No I think it was Britney who died in that tragic hotel bathtub accident.

Please verify that it was Britney and not Whitney...Americans await with bated breath which "Celebrity" has died.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 15:29 | Link to Comment tamboo
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britney's tragic accident will be along a few months after she marries her joo manager.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 12:25 | Link to Comment FlyoverCountryS...
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It was already priced in...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:18 | Link to Comment fuu
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Gold sporting a little wood though.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:20 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain; I am the Great and Powerful Oz!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:21 | Link to Comment kralizec
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"Zero Hedge will offer $10,000 to the first BLS employee to share with us the full and complete excel model set, including assumptions, data tables, and comprehensive output parameters that the agency uses to go from input A to output X."

Heh!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:37 | Link to Comment scatterbrains
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Which leads me to suspect he'd really pay $25k. 

 

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:59 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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The offer is not subject to seasonal QE adjustments.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:18 | Link to Comment metastar
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So much for government transparency and FOI.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Here is the  computational formula...

http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2009/12/expand.jpg

I'll take that $10,000 in gold please...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:09 | Link to Comment BandGap
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WTF, we now have to coerce government employees to prove that the statistical manupulations of data is just that. There is only one reason to manipulate anything, and that is to bend the truth.
I am so tired of this bullshit it makes me want to scream. The lies and truth bludgeoning are so fucking blatently obvious, yet we tra-la-la through the day watch The View and other such TV blatherings.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:20 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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How could it be that consumers aren't spending?

They got all those new jobs, which barely let them afford food and shelter. Very odd.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:34 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:22 | Link to Comment Misean
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Are you using these charts to terrorize Merican workers and trusted government servants?

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:24 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Christmas 2011...

- Everyone go to the store, & buy presents

- Exchange them

- January, take them back and redeem your initial cash...

(oh... & happy Valentine's Day here's your chocolates... please don't eat them, I'm going to need those back)

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 19:51 | Link to Comment andybev01
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You may have them back when I've finished them...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:23 | Link to Comment toadold
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"Gee honey why are you so down?" "It's the job, it isn't easy thinking up new lies everyday. When I was younger I could do good ones off the top of my head. Now it gets harder and harder to do original ones."

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:23 | Link to Comment monopoly
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Well, if this is where we are going to have to get the truth on all these BS numbers I guess it is time for me to make another donation to Zero Hedge.

It is the very least I can do to keep the truth flowing. I bet there are more than one or two at the BLS salivating about now.

 

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:24 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Watch out for that first step. It's a doozy.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:25 | Link to Comment Jlmadyson
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Ha, check the Drudge headline. $5 gas coming to a station near you real soon. The implosion that is coming will be like nothing the world has ever seen.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:29 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Damn straight. I dont really know the exact reason the Ponzi was pumped to such levels, it doesnt really make any sense other than just denial on their part. But soon as gas starts going back up (.30 cents here overnite) its going to be a world of hurt.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:38 | Link to Comment Jlmadyson
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It is the slowest motion trainwreck ever.

Remember 08?

Oh everything is fine.....everything is fine..... OH WHAT $4++ GAS. Derail.

AIG needs 40B overnight what? Lehman who? Fannie and Freddie say again?

BOOM!

Get ready that is all.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:41 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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To hold on to power long enough to get their plans for us in place. They are planning and we are watching dancing with the stars. And by we I mean you :>

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:32 | Link to Comment Sweet Chicken
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We are so fucked.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:43 | Link to Comment Silver Dreamer
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Correction: Those who have not prepared well are fucked.  Gas prices? I'll walk to work. Food price inflation?  I have that covered too.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:59 | Link to Comment Silver Dreamer
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Apparently, we have someone on here who down votes posts simply for cursing within them.  Sweet, that first down vote showed up at the same time as mine, and I up voted yours of course.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:26 | Link to Comment monopoly
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You guys notice the little pop in real currency just now?

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:52 | Link to Comment Mikehy
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real money as opposed to real 'currency'.

just a quibble.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:27 | Link to Comment AllAboutTheBenjamins
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Make it rain Benjamins bitchez

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:28 | Link to Comment nolla
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Unadjusted, it's still 20bn bigger cake than in Jan 2011. As was the unadjusted employment about 2m bigger than in Jan 2011. Still seems resonably normal to me....

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:34 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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Still seems resonably normal to me.... he bleated.  And then, in a moment of revelation, he...(to be continued)

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:06 | Link to Comment nolla
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If you look at the numbers, they are ok, but if you look at what you would like to see, they are not, right? Unfortunately, financial markets don't behave like that. I think it's better to be a pragmatic than a fundamentalist - look, I got a few "dislikes" right away even though nobody denied the message with any new info.

ZH produces excellent non-MSM commentary but sometimes you just need to do your own DD. For instance last night the news in ZH about Finnish collateral deal "derailing" Greek bail-out. No, it had been agreed in EU level months ago, it was no news. It was a juicy headline only in ZH.

I'd rather be a pragmatic.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:41 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Problem is, its a shit cake. Bigger is not better.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:30 | Link to Comment The Limerick King
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As Banksters become more unlawful

And Congress resembles a brothel

This sytem is fit

For serving up shit

A Kleptocrat "terrible awful"!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0MuzlwbVos

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:48 | Link to Comment Hulk
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You really need to make a book of your Limericks. I believe they will be very informative and

valuable reading ATC..

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 13:02 | Link to Comment The Limerick King
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As always...thanks for your kind words Hulk!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:30 | Link to Comment The Alarmist
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Turns out that their model has recently ... since the election of 2008 ... had error terms with autocorrelations that are now significantly different from 0, which suggests serial correlation that needs to be compensated for.  The new model includes a new term to account for the Obama-Rah-Rah effect.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:30 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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My Meucci cue purchase last month didnt put retail sales over the top? I was sure it would have. Oh well, I figured times are coming where youll have to make a living hustling pool, so I got that covered anyway.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:38 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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Ah, Meucci cues. Brings back fond memories of cutting class in college to shoot pool. One of the reasons I changed from engineering to English half way through.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:46 | Link to Comment farmerjohn2112
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I always preferred McDermott...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:49 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Yea but I only had $500 to spend, not $1,500...besides I have 2 McDermott shafts.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:59 | Link to Comment a growing concern
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I got your McDermott shaft right here. Wait, what are we talking about?

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:28 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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You have Jim McDermott's shaft?

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:33 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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I'm only wondering how this little bit of truthiness slipped thru the number changer overlords?

Maybe its a first sign of 'reverse direction' time?

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:37 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Well, we see the problem here clearly....this is 'unadjusted' data, just wait till they adjust it proper in a few minutes.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:37 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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I cant wait for the tax income numbers to come in.

"But we have all these jobs......where the tax revenue?  Oh wait, what do you mean that 25% of 26K (the median salary) aint shit?"

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:39 | Link to Comment Snakeeyes
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Its the old seasonal adjustment again. Raw sales are TERRIBLE, but the SA numbers look OK.

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/02/14/retail-sales-up-in-jan-sa-but-sales-plunge-in-the-raw-data/

Watch economists trumpet SA numbers until NSA is better than SA, then they quote NSA. Bob Shiller from Yale is notorious for this.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:57 | Link to Comment unununium
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Same trick with YoY and sequential numbers.  1st and 2nd derivatives are also a favorite.  With the GDP number they sometimes multiply the latest sequntial number by 4 to get an annual estimate.  When it suits them.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:41 | Link to Comment Yes We Can. But...
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Plunge in January '12 retail?  Snowblower and ice salt sales way down

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:47 | Link to Comment Conman
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Usually they blame bad sales on bad weather.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:43 | Link to Comment mktsrmanipulated
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where is the genius Slaughtere...thought we were gonna have a short squeeze of epic proportions in eurusd...dumb ass just like robo

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:46 | Link to Comment Jason T
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It's still up 5% from a year ago... which is still incredible when real incomes were only up 1.3% .. average new jobs created paying 40% less than the jobs that were lost in the recession.. in NY at least.

 

 

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:46 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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DOW -30? OMFG this really must be serious!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:47 | Link to Comment Silver Dreamer
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The farm animals are getting restless.  It's time to increase their dose of fear.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:46 | Link to Comment mktsrmanipulated
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apparently the economic data doesnt mean anything anymore....spus only down 2 with this data ALGOS rule the world

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:47 | Link to Comment Conman
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I would donate 1K to that cause, we need a BLS whistleblower to blow this bitch up.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:11 | Link to Comment unununium
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I'm in for 100 fiat clownbucks to the BLS whistleblower fund, so we can find out the model is calling external network macro getBlankfeinNumber()

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:01 | Link to Comment Sockeye
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If we all put $1k in we could prolly buy the whole department. How fun would that be!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:49 | Link to Comment NEOSERF
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Hardly scientific but you can almost feel there is something wrong...my morning commute on the MassPike is wide open these days...completely inconsistent with even 2009 and MA is supposed to be one of the better off states...just came back from Miami and there is a fair amount of building and renovation going on but not that many people except from overseas...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:01 | Link to Comment Yes We Can. But...
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Prolly a lot of 50 year old Noreasters in So.Fl. for a cheap condo a low utility bill and a view of the pool so they can pack it in and coast the rest of the way home and let someone else cover all the taxes that woulda otherwise been headed down their throats the next 15/20 years

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:52 | Link to Comment Raging Debate
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Well, I am 42 Yes We Can but I fit your description to do just that at the end of this year. The biggest real problem in the U.S. is demographics combined with Fascism, restriction of competition in Healthcare.

The new way to tax is call someone mentally ill, cops come and next thing is $20k hospital bill. A very new form of mugging. All those retired folks with something left in their estates will have nothing left and that is when things will really change. If and when that happens to you, tell the cops you just got a pyschiatrist, rush out and get one for $400-$500 cash and go on Xanax or other chill pill of choice. This beats a $20k bill.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:49 | Link to Comment Dermasolarapate...
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While I sat at What-a-Burger yesterday (eating my healthy snack!...fries, etc.) I saw 6 people come in and fill out job applications...5 middle age and one who looked like my Grampa.

Is this the job creation? The GDP growth they are talking about?

I asked the owner how many he hires a month and he said less then one since the ones he has hold onto their jobs like a life raft.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:51 | Link to Comment unununium
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Ssssshhhhhh.  We talk about "jobs".  Talking about "money" is communist.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 18:45 | Link to Comment boiltherich
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Yes, they would hold on for dear life, those "manufacturing" jobs are not easy to get.  Here is another barometer of hard times, ZLB Plasma, where people go to sell their blood/plasma for a few extra bucks (about $40 and I know people that sell twice per week) now has a line 24 hours per day even though they close at 7 p.m. and 5 on weekends.  They were not even open Sundays till recently. 

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:49 | Link to Comment SmoothCoolSmoke
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QE 3 quickly coming into focus on the horizon.  Great Depression student Bernanke will not go down with the printers idle.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:50 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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 I read an article today where GE is going to hire 5000 veterans over the next few years. It made me feel all warm inside and I almost for got about the hundreds of thousands they are shipping overseas.......almost

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:50 | Link to Comment unununium
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Advice to BLS staffers: take the $10,000.  Goldman is laying off nowadays, so things might not work out the way you'd hoped.

 

 

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:54 | Link to Comment kill switch
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This headline isn't misleading is it?? From Yahoo finance,,this shit is is enough to drive you normal..

Retail Sales Rise Modestly, but Recovery Advances

 

 

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:55 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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Anyone who piled into Coach at $10 in 2009 scored a 7-bagger.

 

Now at $75, new record highs.

A $50,000 IRA account turned into $375,000 in 3 years.

The U.S. Consumer is unstoppable.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:57 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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You do realize of course that courtesy of the foreclosure settlement Americans will once again, after 2 years, finally have to either pay a mortgage or rent, as banks will now have full right to evict squatters?

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:58 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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Not a chance...  the settlement has not a thing to do with the standing (or lack there of) of a plaintiff to evict a deadbeat...  it also has nothing to do with any individual, civil claims to overturn prior foreclosures based on void judgments, e.g. fraud upon the court (swearing to the authenticity of robosigned documents) or failure of service.

It certainly helped the banks from fighting on both the western and eastern fronts...  but by no means does everyone have to start ponying up anything.  Instead, I think they would only have to pay something if they are so stupid as to agree to the pittance offered for their troubles and/or jump at a free refi, etc.  Until that day, the deadbeats get to stay put, rent free...  and the clouded titles of tens of millions of properties still remain.

[presuming of course that deadbeats want to exercise their rights in court].

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 12:42 | Link to Comment Dermasolarapate...
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Not a chance Tyler. I have two neighbors who live down on the golf course who have not paid the mortgage on the $1 million homes for over two years and they firmly refuse to pay a dime in the future.

They say if Wall Street can bonus themselves Billions, they can "bonus" themselves a little too.

Their plan?

To move out in the middle of the night when they need to and "just walk away."

Rule of Thumb for them:

"Follow the Leader"

 

Sad stuff.....

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 14:00 | Link to Comment BooMushroom
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Ahh, Tyler... You're forgetting mark-to-myth! If they evict, then they will still receive no payment, until someone buys. But nobody will buy the house at the mark-to-myth price, so in order to sell the place and resume receiving mortgage payments, they'll have to mark to market, which will decrease their "assets" by tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars per property. Since they are leveraged to the hilt, this can't happen. 100,000 houses x $100,000 = ten billion dollars. $10b assets held as a 5% fractional reserve is $200 billion dollars. And as all good ZH readers know, there are a whole hell of a lot more than a hundred thousand people living rent free in their underwater mortgage.

A million forclosures = a trillion dollars of fiat, vaporized!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 19:04 | Link to Comment boiltherich
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Boom, it is worse than you think because when a bank books a mortgage they book the entire 360 monthly payments they expect to get as an asset, in my case I borrowed 130,000 and the total of the 360 payments was over $360,000.  That will appear as a declining asset month by month till the loan is paid off.  Some people think the loss to the bank is the amount of the principal balance less what they can get by selling the REO on the open market, untrue, the loss they have to book is the total of all 360 payments when they move that from the asset column to the loss column, because that is what they booked as an asset that is what they book as a loss when the mortgage fails. 

And it is actually worse than that because in most cases the mortgages were sliced and diced and sold and resold with quite a lot of leverage, that $360,000 asset was then carved up and sold for several times that to "investors." 

At the median house value in the peak of the market when millions of homes sold per year the underwriting was in the trillions each year, but the assets booked were more than triple that.  It is also why the bailouts where so much larger than people would have thought, because we were bailing out assets that were expected over 30 years compound interest not simply the cash losses of principal balance less real market value. 

The taxpayers have been screwed so many ways from Sunday it is practically impossible to count them all.  In the end it would have been far easier and cheaper to simply void all US mortgage debts even though those with equity would have started a revolution because it would not be "fair" to them.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:41 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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@Robo

What's more likely is that if a block trade on Coach, from an individuals IRA account, to the tune of $50,000, came across the wires or dark pools at that time... Some whale who is getting FREE MONEY & can front run anything, would have naked shorted the shit out of it until the IRA account holder panicked, saw most of their savings wiped out, cashed out, and gone home with their tail between their legs & is now living in their mom's basement like you...

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:55 | Link to Comment slewie the pi-rat
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$10,000?

We hope that by spending that money we will finally do society a service and open up to everyone just how it is that the BLS adjusts its Non-Farm Payrolls data.

since it's valentimes day i will give you a little present, tyler, and tell you that they do it by playing bingo!  in the lunchroom the day before

it is very subtle, and the players are not in on it

they just play their card and see who wins the free dessert

but the head dude/ette takes the winning card and apllies what can only be called "theColonel'sSecretRecipe" to it, starting w. the 4 corners and working inward toward "free" in a step-array series which, as you can imagine, would be quite lo-variance

from this, they get a "coefficient of adjustment" which is applied to the raw data

you can keep the tenLg for the site b/c slewie hearts zH, and you're kinda cute, too, tyler!

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:59 | Link to Comment Vince Clortho
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"the plunge from $459.8 billion in December to $361.4 billion in January, or -$98.5 billion in one month,was the biggest one month drop in retail sales in history"

 

All those credit card invoices from Holiday shopping have arrived.  The "middle class" just realized they do not have enough money to do any more shopping until June.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 10:59 | Link to Comment BORT
Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:01 | Link to Comment pazmaker
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Apple I-phone taking a bite out of wireless company profits!

Report says AT&T, Verizon and Sprint is subsidizing Apples profits!

 

http://www.mcall.com/business/la-fi-iphone-blues-20120211,0,1161210.story

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:05 | Link to Comment Gools
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Um... I'm not entirely familiar with US law (what there is of it these days) but did Tyler just offer to bribe a govenment employee for access to confidential information?

My motivation for asking is purely selfish of course... I'd hate to see you guys dragged off to some Gitmo or Diego Garcia gulag. Where would I get my financial news then?

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:24 | Link to Comment Conman
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Its not bribery when the information is supposed to be public in the first place.

Tue, 02/14/2012 - 11:43 | Link to Comment Baldrick
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Life's a beach on Diego Garcia.

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