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Uncle CyberSam Prepares To Defend Your Internet For You

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There was a time when the NSA would not know the content of this sentence minutes (or depending on the speed of typing, hours) ahead of our general readership. Those days are now gone, primarily thanks to the Patriot Act, which however merely accelerated the inevitable Orwellian destination to which American society was otherwise headed and which made constant "supervision" and "vigilance" of every US citizen a necessity (for some eyewatering details read We Are This Far From A Turnkey Totalitarian State" - Big Brother Goes Live September 2013). There was, however, one aspect of society over which the US government did not have Chinese-type "firewall" supreme authority: the Internet. Now, as a result of an Executive Order being quietly drafted, the president of this once great country, together with the Department of Homeland Security formed in response to the events of September 11, is about to grasp supreme control over this last bastion of New Normal expression and content dissemination, naturally under the guise of protecting the people. Because as Bloomberg reports, President Obama’s administration is drafting an executive order that would create a program protecting vital computer networks from cyber attacks.

The premise: the US government needs to defend the feeble and defenseless private sector from all enemies, foreign and domestic, because, it would appear, the private sector is incapable of defending itself. And Uncle Sam is more than happy to supervise and take charge of said "defense." “An executive order is one of a number of measures we’re considering as we look to implement the president’s direction to do absolutely everything we can to better protect our nation against today’s cyberthreats,” White House spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said in an e-mailed statement today. “We are not going to comment on ongoing internal deliberations.” Also, did we mention that the US president's decision for the greater private good would be unilaterally imposed, without the benefit of a democratic vote: after all executive orders, of the type Obama has issued 134 so far, do just that: circumvent the popular vote. We did? Good.

From Bloomberg:

The draft, which remains under review and could change, seeks to implement a key provision in a cybersecurity bill that failed to advance in the Senate last month, the officials said. The administration is contemplating using an executive order because it isn’t clear Congress would pass a cybersecurity bill.


The draft calls for the Department of Homeland Security to create a council that would work with the National Institute of Standards and Technology to establish the cybersecurity standards, the officials said.


While the program contemplated in the draft order would be voluntary, the Homeland Security Department would require companies participating in it to submit reports describing how they are protecting their networks, the official said.


The lack of incentives and the requirement for reports could undermine the willingness of companies to participate in the program, the official added.


John Brennan, Obama’s counterterrorism adviser, said on Aug. 8 the administration would consider taking executive action to protect computer networks.


“If the Congress is not going to act on something like this, then the president wants to make sure that we’re doing everything possible,” Brennan said.

The pretext: Weapons of Mass Cyberdestruction. And only Obama, in conjunction with the US government, but absent a democratic vote, can prevent an all out onslaught:

Senate Republicans and business groups including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce blocked the cybersecurity bill. They said the voluntary standards would be a back door to government regulation of companies. The bill was sponsored by Senators Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut independent, and Susan Collins, a Maine Republican.


Brennan said opponents misrepresented the bill, which he said called for minimum performance standards.


“Believe me, the critical infrastructure of this country is under threat,” Brennan said, adding that foreign states and hackers “are developing advanced technologies, and we have to improve our defenses on this issue.”


Obama could accomplish many objectives of the Lieberman- Collins bill with an executive order or other directive, Stewart Baker, a former assistant secretary for policy at the Department of Homeland Security, said in an interview last month.

The real purpose:

Matthew Eggers, senior director of national security at the Chamber of Commerce, has said an executive order would be counterproductive and would show the administration wants to regulate cybersecurity.


The Obama administration is already circulating a draft presidential directive dealing with a related issue: collecting and disseminating information about cybersecurity threats. That reflects “early” discussions about how to update a 2003 directive for protecting the most critical U.S. assets and “is not close to being done,” Hayden said on Aug. 29.

In other words, it will be up to the government to intermediate in isolating and determining threats: for example... anyone with a computer and an Internet connection. And it will be up to the government to deal with said threat cleanly, quietly and efficiently.

Sadly George Orwell is long dead. But if he wasn't, we have some ideas what the sequel to 1984 would be titled.

In the meantime, we, together with various government bureaucrats, are already wondering what the first false cyberflag attack on US soil will be.


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Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:08 | 2775538 Essential Nexus
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Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:15 | 2775555 boogerbently
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How much "protection" is needed when banks/brokerage firms are allowed to steal your money, with impunity, thanks to judicial decisions like the Sentinel decision?

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:30 | 2775583 knukles
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That's the reason; that banks and other financial enablers remain safe within the domain they wish created from a fire-walled "hostile" enemy, simple reality, upon whom they feed.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:52 | 2775624 AlphaDawg
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there is no hope for anyone that does not join the system and fuck everyone else from behind.

Time for another glass of single malt scotch

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:56 | 2775629 AlphaDawg
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Thats all you need to know anymore.

This story will fade away from your minds but will creep into reality as all the rest did.

I am looking at my options in different countries, so far the search has been in vain, but I will think smarter and continue looking for a place to reside

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:33 | 2775672 El Tuco
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There is no where to run anymore. Stay put and just be real quite. Maybe the world will just  forget about you.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:58 | 2775698 economics9698
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The Yids playing both sides of the fence.  Same shit different century.  When you get face to face kill these traitors.


Sun, 09/09/2012 - 05:07 | 2775809 Element
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Umm ... help me out here ... wasn't it Obama who released Stuxnet? ... the very first known use of a "... weapon of mass cyber destruction".


Like ... the threat's not primarily within Washington-DC or nothin ... right?



Sun, 09/09/2012 - 05:17 | 2775815 francis_sawyer
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 And Uncle Sam is more than happy to supervise and take charge of said "defense."...


Well let's just hope it's a crack Israeli cybersecurity outfit that gets put in charge of the operation... I wouldn't feel safe otherwise...

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 06:36 | 2775844 JohnG
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Will it work better than Mcaffee or Norton???

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 14:16 | 2776423 whstlblwr
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Scaredy cat lazy asses. The only answer is to go local. Run local elections watch the ballot and don't let them stop our guys from winning. This RP election was too close for the status quo's comfort.

Like in all epic stories, the villains are changed from inside the system. We have to take it over, get off your fucking computer and go to city council meetings, run for local office.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 07:16 | 2775867 Bringin It
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Like this one?

Ron Rivest, Adi Shamir and Leonard Adleman developed the RSA encryption algorithm in 1977. They founded RSA Data Security in 1982.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 07:23 | 2775871 GetZeeGold
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Let's see if I have this straight.


Nancy Pelosi and Debbie Wasserman Shultz gets to tell me where I can go on the Internet?


Wow......that fukkin sucks.


Sun, 09/09/2012 - 07:46 | 2775888 GetZeeGold
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Good morning Debbie!


Sun, 09/09/2012 - 18:33 | 2776888 The Alarmist
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Debbie does the internet ... talk about being f*cked!

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 07:49 | 2775892 Bogdog
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As long as they allow hentai I'll be fine.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 11:54 | 2776131 clymer
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@Bringing it, 

I don't think the goal of this legislation is to pad certain corporations, but instead to curtail the openness of the internet, in terms of free and anonymous information exchange.




Sun, 09/09/2012 - 08:48 | 2775932 Bobbyrib
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"Well let's just hope it's a crack Israeli cybersecurity outfit that gets put in charge of the operation... I wouldn't feel safe otherwise..."

That all depends on how much they gave to the used car salesman's campaign.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 08:19 | 2775912 Red Heeler
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"wasn't it Obama who released Stuxnet?"

It's not as if anyone's taking credit for it but the evidence points to Israel.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 10:37 | 2776040 knightowl77
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er one of the "leaks" from the WH is that Obama sent the Stuxnet in to slow the Iranians down....that was leaked to placate people who thought the Obummer wasn't doing enuf

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 12:41 | 2776256 Red Heeler
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As if he had the capcity to make such a decision. The man has less mental capacity than a shrub.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 07:28 | 2775874 clymer
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You know, ..what blows my mind, what absolfuckinglutely I cannot wrap any logic around whatsoever.. is this: I have a few friends (mostly liberal chicks) that are unshakable Obama supporters.

These same people were against the 'W' regime for obvious reasons; unjust wars, torture, imperial expansion, cronyism, blah blah

They hopped on the Barry Band Wagon (ignoring basic glaring facts like the gazillion in campaign funding from Goldman Sachs, and his first employer Heinz Kissinger)

He has blatently continued and accelerated every program that they railed against dubya for.

I can spend more time that anyone would otherwise want to trying to teach a fish to ride a bicycle, showing them that facts are facts, black is black and white is white (no, that's not a racist reference), but still they will knee-jerk out a straw-man response like, "Well what do you want Bush? Romney?" Like I could ever support either of these puppets..

But then again, here we are almost on anniversary 11 since the "attacks" and almost no once is willing to take an objective stance in considering the peculiarity of instantaneous building collapses, dissaperaing titanium jet engines, coincidental same-scenario drills, magical pristine-condition passports found in collapsed rubble (the list goes on ad-nauseum)

I Don't. Fucking. Getit. 




Sun, 09/09/2012 - 07:38 | 2775882 i-dog
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It can only be explained by 'fluoride' (or chemtrails, or BPA, or vaccinations, or GMO, or.....).

Some of us must have inadvertently taken an antidote! ... thank Dog....

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 08:16 | 2775907 JOYFUL
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...Some of us must have inadvertently taken an antidote!...

more tru than yu might realize dawg...not so much an anti-dote as such, as wriggled offa the hook! Since at least the 50's there has been a koncerted kampaign by kooks in kontrol of the 'medical' profession to intervene in early childhood with bio-chemical koncoctions designed with Mengelian-like motives to distort, disturb or destroy the homeostatic balance of the human bean...vaccines, faux illnesses, mosquito vectored mass infections...all supported, financed and covered up by the guvernments of the day...

result - the boomer generation injected with viral toxins that all but guarantee a slow and painful decline and death by cancer ...subsequent generations altered in intelligence, mores, and ambition, and dna specific toxic vaccines now finishing the job of destroying the whole europoid experiment in cultural evolution...

Jennifer Lakes' Blog * makes a  wonderful companion to Dave McGowan's reprise of the kulture war against the west...her slant being more to the science side of of this scary sio-nazi stealth holocaust. Her stuff on Salk and the real purpose of the phony "polio" scare is outstanding as is here delineation of the khazarian kryptos behind the making of the H bomb.

Some of us, by the grace of God, Dog or whathaveyu, got away without a full course of mental, physical, spiritual poisoning, and having gone completely off reservation as a result, left to witness the horror of a whole culture being collapsed by malevolent kooks intent on turning our once happy homelands into a hell on earth.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 08:26 | 2775918 Red Heeler
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"wriggled offa the hook!"

Very nicely put.

“There is no such thing as luck, merely opportunity meeting preparedness." - George S. Patton Jr.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 09:08 | 2775927 i-dog
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I'm fully aware of the biochemical attacks, o joyous one ... one of my business interests is in partnership with a decorated biochemist who has a proven natural cure for cancer (among a number of other serious ailments). He's somewhat scathing (to put it mildly!) of the vaccination industry and the various mythical touted "causes" of cancer . (The fact that we know how his products work also means that we know what the causes are, right down at the molecular level ;-).

On the other hand, I wasn't aware of the Khazarian konnection in the musik kamp (other than the usual joo-bashing and more recent masonic symbology) until reading McGowan's piece. The konsistent konnections that he highlights to the Navy, the CIA and the general military intelligence komplex immediately klicked into place for me as I read it. It also explained a lot of anomalies in the industry that had otherwise bothered me for decades.

Yet another konfirmation of Omnes viae Romam ducunt!

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 13:56 | 2776374 Cathartes Aura
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and if anyone wants to understand the future of the war against humans in the great experiMental lab of ScientificMilitaryPsychopathy - always look to whatever is the latest torture being used in "war" zones. . .

biowarfare, ticks, death. . .

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 15:33 | 2776617 john39
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a few are too strong to be controlled be even their worst methods...  thus NDAA, fema camps...  and murder.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 18:49 | 2776922 Cathartes Aura
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indeed, anything/one that slips through the net merely encounters a tighter weave next time.

Mon, 09/10/2012 - 00:07 | 2777564 SilverRhino
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wow.  got any contact information?  To quote Starship Troopers, " I'd love to know more" 

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 14:44 | 2776482 Lore
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"Since at least the 50's there has been a koncerted kampaign by kooks in kontrol of the 'medical' profession to intervene in early childhood..."

Yes! The Ritalin Generation.

It takes a few years for most people to get it, but when they do, they never look at things like "Tele-Vision" the same way...

"Battle for the Mind"

SMART METERS should likewise come as no surprise to those sensitized to control freakdom.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 15:32 | 2776616 Clashfan
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Thrilled to see more ZHers reading McGowan.

Mon, 09/10/2012 - 03:06 | 2777729 JOYFUL
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Dave M\not an easy read for those of a certain generation...who have to realize, after what is disclosed within, that they adulated, imitated, and took the same mind-destroying CIA-developed drugs as the stooges like Crosby who were pushed onto the big stage by their psy-op handlers of the dark side Secret Government...Downer, Man!

And just as can be expected, our very own truth-tellin Prairie Rose,(Joni Mitchell) picks up a soul-destroying man-made disease(Morgellons) for refusing to stay on reservation. Send yur prayers her way...she deserves every one of them.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 12:34 | 2776244 billsykes
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Uh, America voted in George W jr twice.  They got clinton, reagan, george w sr, Johnson, nixon, ford, you name it they all sucked.

I especially love all the black people on TV, obama could be burning people alive in front of the white house and the smiley arsenio would be "dats my man"

Oh this time it will be different. Mitts a great guy (sarc).

If politics was a job in a private company- they would have been fired long ago. Most employees have 3 months to get it together, Obama had 4 years- and the shit sticks on charlie rose are like he has really grown into  the position and is now comfortable to get the things he set out to do 4 yrs ago....


I don't even vote anymore there is no point. America needs more choices, they need a couple more political parties.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 13:59 | 2776386 Cathartes Aura
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Charlie Rose is a Bilderberger.

and amrka is a plantation, there is really only ONE choice, and it's not in "political parties" now.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 16:19 | 2776688 billsykes
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He is totally a shill, most telling when he was at the democratic convention and had a guest there and the guest said roughly that America should not be playing world cop and that it really has never helped- Charlie immediately butted in and said basically that that we are not going to do that and the guest kind of, went along with the nudging.


Sun, 09/09/2012 - 13:55 | 2776371 RafterManFMJ
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I Don't. Fucking. Getit. 


I'm pretty fucking sure you will eventually get it. Good, long and hard at Camp Fema

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 08:39 | 2775921 kill switch
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El Tuco,


Good luck with that..It's time the get out!! Plan well.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:52 | 2775691 CrazyCooter
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Might I suggest Richard Maybury's "Whatever Happened to Justice?" In the back of the book is a list of countries to give you starting points in your search.

And don't listen to Simon black.



Sun, 09/09/2012 - 06:07 | 2775834 spentCartridge
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Sun, 09/09/2012 - 07:24 | 2775873 GetZeeGold
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When blondes attack.


Sun, 09/09/2012 - 07:51 | 2775895 petolo
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A place where the corruption is rife but overt. At least you will know your enemies and friends. Just keep some spare change for bribes and pay-offs. In most African countries it works quite nicely.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:56 | 2775630 veyron
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I've been looking for a good whiskey ... any recommendations?

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:59 | 2775635 AlphaDawg
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Glenfiddich 12yr malt is a quality buy, no need to spend anymore for a premium drink

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 01:01 | 2775702 Ineverslice
Sun, 09/09/2012 - 18:40 | 2776904 The Alarmist
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Get a few cases of the $7 per bottle stuff at your local cut rate liquors ... you sip the 12-year old stuff, and as the buzz sets in you knock yourself out with the cheap crap.  Also won't be such a loss when the marauding bands come out from the city to pillage the countryside.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:15 | 2775655 Ineverslice
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Oban please.

Mon, 09/10/2012 - 04:27 | 2777774 The Navigator
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Please, anything starting with Oba (ama) or Osa (ama) I'm chucking up. I reallly can't take either any more.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:49 | 2775687 Agent P
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Jameson...unless you've got some extra bucks, in which case Midleton.  Drink it neat.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 01:34 | 2775728 Inthemix96
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Take a look at 15 year old Glenlivet, or its equal 15 year old Maclelan.  I prefer the Glenlivet, a finer whisky at around £40 a litre cannot be had my friend.  Beautiful

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 06:54 | 2775857 NoClueSneaker
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Talisker, Dalmore, Balvenie ...

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:54 | 2775628 veyron
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It's actually pretty sad to think that a person's life savings are merely a single number in a table, that could be wiped out in a fraction of a second ... unlike gold and silver.


Though it does bring up an interesting question: how does one protect silver from an accidental acid spill?  

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:04 | 2775638 AlphaDawg
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I love gold and silver, for an investment, but even it wont help if you ever find yourself in a position where you have to sell your assets.

Its got very competitive and its time to think smart.

If you have any ideas I would appreciate them as we could all be fucked soon

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:57 | 2775663 UP Forester
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I don't think the hyper-dis-bi-stag-flation will be so bad....

Besides, ammo will be a better investment until things calm down.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 05:19 | 2775817 francis_sawyer
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Sun, 09/09/2012 - 08:53 | 2775933 Bobbyrib
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Pre 1982 pennies too.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 11:54 | 2776177 DosZap
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The only answer to this mess is SECESSION.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 14:03 | 2776394 Cathartes Aura
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so, does Texas get to keep their Shadowhawk drones when they "secede"?

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 09:36 | 2775969 FutureShock
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Where has Kyle Bass been lately? Any letters to shareholders recently?  With such a grasp of the numbers and more experience watching the can kicking I would love to know what he is thinking about timing.


Sun, 09/09/2012 - 11:12 | 2776094 francis_sawyer
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Ever the hobbyist... maybe he's swaging bullet casings with his nickles...

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 13:02 | 2776291 billsykes
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I bet you he is laying low, remember when he bought that mortgage company? Bass bought a mortgage company, how did he get rich? betting against _________ (housing). Also MGIC is a total mutt the multi yr revenue losses are staggering. 

MGIC Investment Corp

or maybe he is on the run;

I think that a lot of these guys are just numbers, averages X number of investors all speculating, X will be a head of the game for X time, X number of people will win, X number loses. Hugh Hendry I think is the same, talks a great game, unbelievably good writer, returns are not great. I think paulson's returns will not be too great either in the long run.

With all these guys, their bread and butter is picking stock , and with the market as fake as it is, I think that stocks are dead because fundamentals are not tracking.   

I think smart money now is pulling public to private LBOs taking companies that have a glimmer of hope in the international field, then exploiting that, leveraging again with a div-recap before their S&P rating dives and picking the highest exit. Be that IPO, breakup, spin off, or a relever again exiting the LPs and keeping the company via a chapter 11 reorg, because your other fund did some senior secured debt on the LBO.


Yield now, at least to me is about the fees you can earn.  



Sun, 09/09/2012 - 18:43 | 2776911 The Alarmist
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Nah ... the plan is to use the next round of the debt ceiling to knock 30% of the public companies' market values, and the good ones will promptly be taken private to keep them in reserve while the new normal unfolds over the next few years.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 19:27 | 2776977 margaris
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Maybe dissolving your metals in acid is a way to hide them from government.


This has happened at least once in history:


When the Nazis invaded denmark, some chemist dissolved the nobel prize medals in nitro-hydrochloric acid solution.

The Nazis ignored the big lab bottles full of gold solution...

Later the gold was extracted from the solution. Of course the numismatic value was gone, but the gold was safe, and that's what counts.


That trick may work again?

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:09 | 2775636 Muppet of the U...
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I only wish I would get to see the day mankind sheds the meek and shrugs off the illuminati leeches. 

Then we will truly be on the road to becoming gods. 

Mankind is unstoppable, and when 1 minute to midnight comes, there will be no stopping our evolution.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 08:16 | 2775909 bank guy in Brussels
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You mention the corruption of the US courts with the Sentinel decision, the US high federal judges approving the theft of millions - actually billions - in customer funds, along with the MF Global and Peregrine cases

What has enabled this, is that Google Inc. has been using its monopoly for several years now to censor key websites on American judicial corruption and bribery - the most 'forbidden' topic in US censoring and media control

Our political refugee from the US in Belgium, whom US agents have wanted to murder - with the house of the Belgian King intervening to stop them - was one of the leading writers on US judicial corruption before Google Inc began censoring and blocking all his websites from search results:

Live Photo: Google Inc. Caught Censoring EU Search Results on US court corruption (for USA - CIA)
Google Internet Censorship - Censure d'Internet par Google - Internet censuur door Google

'Ex-Agent: CIA Seed Money Helped Launch Google', retired intelligence agent Robert David Steele interviewed by Paul Joseph Watson, and speaking of the CIA's Dr Rick Steinheiser and his connections with Google:

Some articles on US court corruption censored by the CIA's Google Inc., while the author is slandered with hoaxes  the CIA's Wikipedia, and the author is blocked by Google Inc. from replying ...:

Foreign Companies Face Risk of US Court Corruption:
Doing Business in the Big Bribery Nation

America's Corrupt Legal System -
A Danger to Visitors, Travellers as Well as USA Residents

Americans Murdering Their Judges, and the US Crisis of Judicial Corruption

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 09:39 | 2775972 centerline
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What happened here in Florida with the "Rocket Docket" slamming people out of thier homes should have been proof enough for most people that the legal system is not "for the people."

Interesting topic you are bringing up because we never really hear of a judge being removed, let alone tried and convicted.  Seems to me the charges in such cases where willfull action is proved should be severe.



Sun, 09/09/2012 - 11:31 | 2776123 Amish Hacker
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Which brings to mind the Voltaire quotation currently at the bottom of the home page for :

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." 

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 17:11 | 2776768 CompassionateFascist
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And, internet excluded, that would be...?  (secret code, letters of alphabet numbered):: 10-5-23-19.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:29 | 2775568 Michael
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I'm not worried about the internet. It will be regulated to death and all internet related stocks like Apple, Google, Priceline, etc will go to near zero.

My ultimate goal is to see it completely shut down.

We will have one final nationwide social networking protest where everyone in the country will cancel their internet subscription, if the federal government continues in this path.

And that will be the end of it. Ha Ha. 

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 03:29 | 2775781 A Nanny Moose
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The only components of the NASDAPPL to zero? Inconceivable.


Sun, 09/09/2012 - 04:18 | 2775800 Sathington Willougby
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My wife was on the phone with our provider today, I know they heard me in the background braying if they seize the internet we're cancelling.  Also saying why do we have to pay for commercials.  

I have to admit, I ignore 99% of ads, but the ad where the neighbors are saying "everyone in this neighborhood bundles" chilled my soul. 

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 05:21 | 2775818 francis_sawyer
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Sun, 09/09/2012 - 09:48 | 2775980 Sathington Willougby
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You could call for something drastic, but it aint gonna.  Foosball, flatscreens and beer.  The single party masses not going to miss that season.

75% of the population may have an inkling about what they're doing but no shits given.  That's a pretty low expected value of any slave exodus.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 12:30 | 2776240 Michael
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The internet people who really built the internet will ask people to cancel their internet subscriptions if the Federal Government continues with their push of censorship.

That will be enough power to make the government back the fuck off.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 11:32 | 2776126 Mr. Fix
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Hey Obama,

You didn't build the net,

It's not broken, 

and you can't fix it.


Sun, 09/09/2012 - 18:45 | 2776917 The Alarmist
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Yes, he can.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:09 | 2775540 hannah
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why does ZH CONTINUE TO AUTHOR STORIES ABOUT HOW THE US GOV IS GOING TO SPY ON US.....the fucking gov built the internet system in the usa. the still legally 'own' it....they have always been able to see all data sent over it. LOL


the DoD still 'own' the internet...just go build a data center and see the legalese you have to sign and who gets a key to the back door....ha!



Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:10 | 2775544 Tyler Durden
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This is not an article about "spying" - this is an article about the government giving itself unilateral powers to determine who may or may not be a cyberthreat, and, logically, following through.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:15 | 2775552 zer0hedge
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They may be evil but some of them are smart mofos. If I were to control the country this is how I'd go about doing it. Not creative though.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:33 | 2775590 A Lunatic
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Bullish for Smith and Wesson.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:57 | 2775632 veyron
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Actually would be bearish .. information about S&W and Ruger would disappear from the Internet

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:28 | 2775666 Muppet of the U...
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Been long gun stocks since early january.  TRUST ME, the gun buying has ONLY just begun.  As the distopian future becomes more real, and crime increases due to poverty through austerity and inflation, gun stocks are bullish.  Mr. Pollock asked me once, what I would invest in?  LOL, I told him, guns guns guns.

Having the internet pulled or censored regularly?  extremely bullish for heavy artillary stocks.  B/C frankly if I were watching big brother coming online?  I would, well, lol, I am buying the most high tech long range weaponry on the market.  & you should too. B/c if you want freedom, it comes with blood.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 08:07 | 2775902 petolo
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I am all for self defense but i am in a quandary: how do i tell the good guys from the bad? Except for the obvious tanks, drones and Polizei there will be lots of undercover boys and girls offering 12 year oldsingle malt scotch whiskey.

Mon, 09/10/2012 - 22:25 | 2780594 tsx500
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Are u worried at all about an Obama victory on 6 Nov .... firstly, wouldn't he put the clamps on firearms industry by some kinda huge tax or a similar repressionary tactic , and secondly couldn't he nationalize SW (or any other) under one of his exec orders ?

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:57 | 2775694 Agent P
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The draft calls for the Department of Homeland Security to create a council that would work with the National Institute of Standards and Technology to establish the cybersecurity standards, the officials said.

Shortly after the council is established the National Institute of Standards and Technology places an order for 350 million rounds of .40 S&W hollow point ammunition.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 08:40 | 2775926 chubbar
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NIST, aren't they the same folks who tried selling us the fairy tale about bldg 7 collapsing from some random fires? Which they didn't acknowledge or address that it fell the first 8 floors at free fall speed until the video was provided that was undeniable. The ones whose own math showed that the upper support girder could only walk 3.5 inches (under absolute perfectly raging fires along it's entire length, which was separated by several rooms) yet it was shown to have been 6 inches away from the support ledge in subsequent photos shot prior to 9/11? The ones whose theory of how the collapse actually looked is completely at odds with the dozens of videos shot of the actual colllapse? Those guys are now involved in this debacle? Yeah, that'll turn out fantastic for us.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 09:50 | 2775986 Oldrepublic
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seems our "standards," have been slipping lately

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 12:00 | 2776187 Clashfan
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I caught that one too, Chubbar. Ever stick your hand in a 500 degree oven? Anyone who's ever worked the pizza business should be able to spot that incongruity in the "official" story. Good call.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:08 | 2775642 MiltonFriedmans...
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True Tyler, but it's redundant because the feds already have it covered under the NDAA (once the Supreme Court overturns the NY decision...I wouldn't count on Justice Roberts for any help). I guess they want to be able to charge us on multiple counts; always makes for a better headline.

Houston, we have a problem.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 09:43 | 2775975 centerline
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Seems to me another facet of the same thing.  Closing loopholes.  If all of this was in one bill, even the most ignorant American would probably say "WTF?"

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:23 | 2775559 xtop23
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you're a fuckin' idiot, dude.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:52 | 2775622 Cdad
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Indeed...he is an idiot...because the government does not "own" anything.  The internet, like everything else the government has done, was funded by the American people.

It is this continued failure, to understand this simple fact, that causes people to lay down, to prostrate themselves on bended knee, and ignorantly so.  But since the idiot is almost certainly logged in on some government computer in order to make this assertion, it makes the argument a moot point.

Until such time that the American people can voice such a simple fact as this, there is no point in arguing it.  And as Tyler has done here, the only thing to do is assert the obvious point, the fact, again and again until such time as the population lays claim to what is theirs.  As of this time, the American public is still sleeping...and as such, deserves its fate.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 07:08 | 2775821 francis_sawyer
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The internet is the ultimate pacifier because instead of protests & million man marches, people can let steam off by playing commando with their keyboard then jacking off to porn, all while drinking a beer...

It's better than fantasy football, DWTS, The View, & Oprah all rolled in to one...

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 08:47 | 2775929 Muddy1
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"because the government does not "own" anything. The internet, like everything else the government has done, was funded by the American people"  

Whhhhhaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttt?  Are you suggesting that "they" (the guvment) didn't build that?   The nerve of you.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:25 | 2775576 GoodMorningMr.V...
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The federal Government owns some of the interstate highways as well. Should they be able to, without probable cause, stop someone, rifle through their vehicle, and haul that person to jail whenever they feel threatened?

We still have rights guaranteed by the 4th amendment and they apply even on federal government property.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:32 | 2775586 knukles
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Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:04 | 2775608 GoodMorningMr.V...
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If we start from the point where entities are considered people, than one of the most frequent and flagrant violators of the law and therefore threat to stability of society, is the entity known as the federal government.

Our government was founded on the idea you have rights by virtue of being a person. The Constitution, and whoever swears an oath to uphold it are supposed to be guaranteeing those rights for you.

The daily news and stories seem to demonstrate that we have a government full of oath breakers. But don't let this reality warp you understanding of the legality.

There is a big gap between what the government does, and what it does legally.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 11:40 | 2776139 Amish Hacker
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[In order to protect the muppets,] "We look to implement the president’s direction to do absolutely everything we can..."

That statement covers a lot of ground.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 14:12 | 2776412 Cathartes Aura
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Our government was founded on the idea you have rights by virtue of being a person. The Constitution, and whoever swears an oath to uphold it are supposed to be guaranteeing those rights for you.

well, first we had to learn to define "person" in order to see who really had "rights" - and come to think of it, we're all still learning to define the labels, tags and numbers we've be assigned, hmm?

(clue: the labels are doublespeak)

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:45 | 2775609 Michael
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Last time I checked the people own the government, therefore it follows, we also own the internet, just ask Clint Eastwood.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 01:37 | 2775730 gavroche76
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The government doesnt own internet. Al Gore does.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:35 | 2775594 Schmuck Raker
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"We still have rights..."

Really? Are you sure?

Doesn't feel like it much anymore...

["jinx" Knucks]

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:35 | 2775597 Buckaroo Banzai
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"Should they be able to, without probable cause, stop someone, rifle through their vehicle, and haul that person to jail whenever they feel threatened?"

Mostly, they do this already, and we let them. Common Law states that free men can use the public highways without license or hindrance for non-commercial use. But common law was overturned in 1933 with the advent of the licensing of all drivers, commercial or private.

It is logical to assume that the same perversion of the law applies to the information highways as well.

Freedom died in this country a century ago. Let's stop kidding ourselves.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:54 | 2775626 GoodMorningMr.V...
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You may not feel powerful now.

But anyone who sits on a jury in which the government brings a case against someone for "X" crime which involves the internet, and led to a search of data packets without a warrant or probable cause, has to the ability to expand the timeless principle of protection from Unreasonable searches and seizure, to cover this situation by acquitting.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:50 | 2775689 Clashfan
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I thought that under NDAA, they don't have to try or even charge you? Eh?

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 02:27 | 2775760 MiltonFriedmans...
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Yup, the NDAA is all-encompassing.  It's a slam dunk for tyranny.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 11:49 | 2776166 Amish Hacker
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One of the many ironies here is that the Republicans in the Senate did NOT block the legislation in order to uphold any of the individual rights guaranteed by the Constitution, but because it "would be a back door to government regulation of companies."

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 01:42 | 2775734 The Paucity of Hope
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Plus a judge can issue a directed verdict that leaves the jury out.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 06:41 | 2775847 JohnG
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I'd hang the jury just for the hell of it.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 08:47 | 2775930 chubbar
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Jury Nullification, spread the word. Google it and then understand that most judges don't allow defense attorneys from mentioning it during trial (as I understand it, I'm not an attorney).

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 13:58 | 2776381 Overfed
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Not nearly enough people are up to speed on jury nullification. Sadly.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:54 | 2775627 Cdad
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The American people own the interstate highways of this nation.  Period.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 06:05 | 2775831 Papasmurf
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That's a temporary glitch, soon to be solved through the magic of privitization.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:07 | 2775640 SAME AS IT EVER WAS

@goodmorning from the Pinellas county jail, I guess you have never been to Florida where the "judicial" system is the number source of revenue?

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 08:57 | 2775934 Bobbyrib
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Do you understand how the government functions? The President is trying to implement this program through an executive order, and not by passing it through Congress (you know the people who make the laws). Maybe you need to study the branches of government and their functions.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:09 | 2775541 ekm
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Every nation deserves its leader.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:20 | 2775567 A Lunatic
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If only we had a leader.......

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:32 | 2775588 knukles
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If only it were a nation.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 08:22 | 2775913 saints51
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If only we could wake up from this bad dream.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:11 | 2775546 Ineverslice
Sun, 09/09/2012 - 01:44 | 2775726 i-dog
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But his body language isn't too hot ... for example, it appears to me that the program wasn't called "Stellar Wind".... (neither do I believe, from that video, that he was harassed from the shower at gunpoint by the FBI).

Don't just listen to what they say, but also how they say it and what they don't say (but should have). It'll keep you out of some dead alleys and away from limited hangouts (though each limited hangout has much useful information ... by definition, you'll never know which part is the truth and which part is misinformation).

Just sayin'....

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 04:10 | 2775798 Colonel
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The guy was that smart yet he couldn't figure out that a program like that was surely going to be used by the government against it's own citizens? Especially given their track record?!



Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:21 | 2775550 Dr Benway
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So cyberattacks huh? Would the cracking of AACS constitute a cyberattack, worthy of a military response perhaps?


Torrenting a movie or TV show? Maybe that's a cyberattack.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 03:35 | 2775785 A Nanny Moose
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Gummint logic.....We need to shoot the 1's and 0's

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:16 | 2775553 Dr. Engali
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The most open transparent administration in history. Fucking idiots still worship this guy.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:50 | 2775620 Buckaroo Banzai
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All politicians are liars, but Obama has perfected the art. He's 100% pure lies. Every single thing about him is a lie. He just lies, and lies, and lies. And lies. And then lies some more.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:11 | 2775646 Cdad
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All current and existing politicians lie.  Period. 

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 03:22 | 2775778 ForTheWorld
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All future politicians will lie as well.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 06:44 | 2775850 JohnG
Sun, 09/09/2012 - 08:22 | 2775914 Ricky Bobby
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Well I am proud to say that I have never listened to a word he said, and that goes for mittens as well. Why waste time listening to a test marketed HOLOGRAPH.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:27 | 2775558 koncaswatch
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This Owellian world is not unique to the USA... As the US goes, so go many of the rest of us.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:33 | 2775674 Cdad
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True.  Regan, in his "We have a date with destiny" speech, was correct.  The last best hope for freedom in this the world is [was] America.


Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:22 | 2775573 singsing
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"We are not content with negative obedience, nor even with the most abject submission. When finally you surrender to us, it must be of your own free will. We do not destroy the heretic because he resists us; so long as he resists us we never destroy him. We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him. We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soul. We make him one of ourselves before we kill him. It is intolerable to us that an erroneous thought should exist anywhere in the world, however secret and powerless it may be. Even in the instance of death we cannot permit any deviation . . . we make the brain perfect before we blow it out."

The one and only, 1984.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:22 | 2775574 A Lunatic
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We need to pass it so we can see what's in it, bitchez............

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:25 | 2775578 Poule Mouillee
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I don't need no Internets protected!  I'm a 73rd level Paladin for fuck sakes.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:27 | 2775581 q99x2
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Arrest Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld for war crimes.

I guess TuTu wants to try them at the Hague. I always thought Bush should be left off because he was retarded but maybe just given a lessor charge.

Might live to see the day. Thought I'd live to see the day Mubarak was ousted and that happened.

But what US president did not commit huge crimminal acts against the people?

None since they have been contracted to carry out the deeds of the banksters.

Arrest them.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:35 | 2775596 bushwarcrime
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Hey, who are you calling retarded?

Wait, retards cant be tried at Den Haag?  Oh yes, I'm retarded. I've always been retarded.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:35 | 2775598 knukles
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Like that is so yesterday, water under the bridge.
Efforts focused elsewhere, in the Now, better spent.

Sat, 09/08/2012 - 23:38 | 2775600 xtop23
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your list is a fine start but, if you don't at the very minimum have Kissinger on it, I can't give you an up arrow.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 00:57 | 2775697 Clashfan
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Can we not toss some Rothschilds on the list while we're at it?

Arresting patsies is so 20th century.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 02:07 | 2775747 i-dog
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You'd need to arrest the whole Jesuit-Joo Khazarian hierarchy! ... from all the planning groups, think tanks, councils, round tables, 'institutes', central banks, multinational boards, UN secretariats, political unions ... all those who have sworn onerous blood oaths of secrecy and loyalty to a foreign entity, over and above their national oaths of allegiance to their fellow citizens, as part of their initiation into secret societies like Skull & Bones, Bilderberg, Knights of Malta, CNP. upper levels of Freemasonry, Mormonism, Jesuits, etc, etc.


PS. Thanks, btw, for that recent link to David McGowan's researches ... v-e-e-e-e-r-y interesting!! It explains a lot (since I was very close to some senior music industry execs, promoters and media 'back in the day').

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 06:17 | 2775836 WTFx10
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So what , it can be done. The us military has 2.4 million minus the 400,000 Israeli traitors? 2 million against a private corporation with no standing army? mission accomplished faster than bush did in Iraq. Arrests,shock and awe. Banksters,traitors,all taken care of, then let the governments of the planet decide on the currency exchange mechanism without the criminals skimming off the top.

Uncle tom obama don't have any balls. Once a slave always a slave just better dressed and the work ain't hard as long as he follows the rules or rulers

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 06:51 | 2775852 i-dog
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LOL ... the Khazarians control (and have controlled since the beginning of each) the Navy, the intelligence community, the Joint Chiefs, the Department Secretaries (including "Defense") and the SCOTUS. Don't count on the military ... they're both mercenaries under orders and brainwashed order followers!

And, by regarding the presidency as anything more than a desk and a signing pen, you're admitting that you've been mesmerized by the puppet show.

The US military IS the standing army of the Luciferians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 06:17 | 2775837 WTFx10
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So what , it can be done. The us military has 2.4 million minus the 400,000 Israeli traitors? 2 million against a private corporation with no standing army? mission accomplished faster than bush did in Iraq. Arrests,shock and awe. Banksters,traitors,all taken care of, then let the governments of the planet decide on the currency exchange mechanism without the criminals skimming off the top.

Uncle tom obama don't have any balls. Once a slave always a slave just better dressed and the work ain't hard as long as he follows the rules or rulers

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 12:07 | 2776204 Clashfan
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Tough one to do if the US military is controlled by luciferians.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 11:03 | 2776075 tip e. canoe
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here's a nice list to start with:

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 12:05 | 2776201 Clashfan
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YW, Idog. I've offered McGowan on other sites, but for the record, I had tired of trying to get ZHers to read it, and was only defending it b/c someone ELSE offered it first on that thread to which I think you refer, and someone attacked it (Mercury, I think--and maybe one more?) very "callously," to use your word, w/out really examining it.

Read the whole Inside the LC, and if you can still find his work on SRA, read that. Inside the LC is freaking awesome.

I always enjoy our interactions, btw. Hope we have more.

The luciferians have infiltrated all media. It's their job.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 14:27 | 2776456 Cathartes Aura
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not every 'Hedger avoids the stories that help connect the dots - I too appreciated the link - I'd read a lot of those stories years ago, but really enjoyed the LC pages - so many "rock stars" in such a small canyon, lol. . .

my interactions with the "music industry" in the 80's & 90's confirm the legacy of control over the artist via deception, drugs & dealings - I was amazed at the similarities of those at the top of the consolidating corporations.  just a big ole club intent on pushing their agenda.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 15:38 | 2776627 Clashfan
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Ty Cathartes--have you read the whole thing yet? I hadn't been there in a while until this week--the newer shit blew me away (Black Dahlia stuff).

The intel/satanism connections are far too strong to be coincidental. If I only had more time, I'd read LC four or five times over.

While his writing style is entertaining, I find myself having to re-read several parts at a time, to keep track of all of the names and details. And it's hard for me to retain enough of it to pass bits on accurately, deftly. So I just point to it and say, "Read this," and few do. But if enough ZHers read it and get it, wow--smart folks on here, you know? They might do a better job of disseminating the info than I do.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 19:01 | 2776940 Cathartes Aura
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I've not read the LC all the way through, but I'd like to - I just don't spend that much time on/at the computer as I used to, for various reasons.

but I agree, his writing style encourages lingering, particularly for someone as obsessed with music as I have been all my life - the stories are so wild, yet completely believable! 

and I also agree that there are some hella smart folks here at ZH, peeking out through the dense election year trolling. . . just keep adding your opinions, and trust they're read.

best to you.

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