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In case you missed it. Markets soared on the back of possibly the darkest day in central-planning banking largesse. Gold and Silver were the biggest winners, though stocks will get all the attention we are sure. Treasuries initially sold off on the news that this was an MBS program (and mortgage spreads collapsed from already record tights) but by the close, Treasury yields had almost round-tripped to pre-FOMC levels. For the first hour or so after the news, all assets moved in sync and correlations soared across risk-assets, but as the afternoon wore on, FX carry consolidated, Treasuries retreated (and 2s10s30s fell), dragging risk lower leaving stocks up near their highs in a world of unicorns and free-money. Notably, it appeared that stocks caught up to high-yield credits' recent exuberance and then found little ability to push ahead. HYG (the high-yield bond ETF) remains notably rich to real bond prices. VIX tumbled under 14% (down almost 2 vols) but notably the term structure of vol collapsed even more - as it seemed the QuEnfinity prompted longer-term hedges to be lifted. A remarkable day in many ways as the S&P crosses over 14x P/E and AAPL over 20% of the Nasdaq-100.

 

Today across asset classes...

 

VIX term structure collapsed (not just the front-end but the longer-term also dropped notably) - see lower 2 panes with year-to-date flats in the curve...

 

What stopped equities' exuberance today? perhaps the catch up to high-yield credit?

 

or - did the drop in risk-asset support start to stagger hope? Certainly this afternoon, Treasuries and 2s10s30s (as well as FX carry) did not follow along with the excitement...

 

Mortgage spreads collapsed...(as low as 38.6bps at iots tights!!)

 

as bond yield retraced all afternoon...

 

but financials roared - as we assume people think they'll be selling their MBS to the Fed? Because at these levels of spread (and given the curve's flattening on the day), NIM ain't gonna be it...

 

Charts: Bloomberg and Capital Context

 

Bonus Chart: Despite all this excitement - Facebook managed (drum roll please) to end down 1.2%


 

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Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:08 | 2791785 sbenard
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Bernanke is creating an environment in which no risk is recognized. I think we call that a BUBBLE!

He needs to be hung, drawn, and quartered -- following his trial, of course!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:11 | 2791811 Blasé Faire
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FOMC = Federally-funded One Man Crusade

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:16 | 2791848 FoxMulder
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Bernanke went full retard

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:31 | 2791929 veyron
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the big winners were the *miners*.  Check out Hecla Mining (HL): up 7% while silver was up 4%, and over the month HL is up 35% while silver up 24%

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:34 | 2791949 roadsnbridges
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Yep.  But NOK was no slouch either.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:43 | 2791990 SWRichmond
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I have bought miners of various caps and segments over the past several years.  I have watched them in up and down markets, and I have kept them all during the recent miner slump / beatdown.  I doubled down on a number of them.

Luv me some HL, bitches.

 

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:42 | 2792185 jekyll island
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My mining portfolio is up $30k in the last two months.  Still great bargains like AXU, but not for long.  Don't make my mistake and try to short bonds however.  That's a loser's bet and it will be until the very end, but my crystal ball won't tell me when that will occur. 

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 19:42 | 2792692 DeadFred
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Think about other equities. The fool just said I'll print for as long as it takes and I'll print more if things deteriorate. Want to bet that things will mysteriously deteriorate? What a stupid, stupid thing he just did.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:32 | 2791930 Silver Bug
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Gold and silver are going much much higher.

http://silverliberationarmy.blogspot.ca/

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:33 | 2791942 q99x2
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Apparently he plans to go Morlock before that happens to an underground city in Missouri.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:34 | 2791945 asteroids
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This is a bank bailout. I don't expect a much of a stock market rally after this initial pop.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:04 | 2792071 mick_richfield
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hanged.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:08 | 2791787 HedgeAccordingly
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... and away... 1406 last thursday 1460 today - bend em over Ben! - http://hedge.ly/QRRz7K

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:15 | 2791842 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ $55,000

To the moon, Alice.

You ain't seen nothin' yet.

All else will be left behind when the Gold Mothership takes off (ZH' "Gordon_Gekko").

I hope I left no one important out!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:08 | 2791788 tawse57
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APPL is over 20% of the NASQUACK 100? That can't be good.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:08 | 2791796 Dr. Gonzo
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If you bought most of your gold at $300 and most of your silver at $5 and have a hard time putting new cash in at these levels perhaps consider buying physical rhodium. It's a different animal than the other PM's and only for investors with strong hands however it's about $500 cheaper than gold now (it was once 8 times the cost of gold) so if their ever was a good time to add rhodium to your collection it might just be now...plus the fact that it's sweet looking. This has been a rhodium infomercial paid for by South African miners. $1150 our ass! 

 

http://www.goldeneaglecoin.com/Other_Metals

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:37 | 2791960 roadsnbridges
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Iridium, bitches!

Screw these lightweights.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:42 | 2791986 Don Smith
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Unobtainium!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:06 | 2792077 mick_richfield
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Yeah, but you just can't find any.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:11 | 2792093 Canadian Dirtlump
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I have an osmium weight lifting set. It takes up virtually no room but I'm too weak to lift any of the weights. goddammit.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:45 | 2791996 edifice
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Any of the platinum group metals (hell, any of the metals) are a good play, right now.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:56 | 2792048 The Shootist
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I wouldn't go long iron unless it's in gun steel.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:09 | 2791808 Jlmadyson
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Knew you would do this Benny and so I pushed the house purchase off until spring.

Rates better be even more magical then or the house can wait.

Thanks Ben

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:12 | 2791821 CPL
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Hold off for another year...see where the dust settles.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:11 | 2791818 km4
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David Stockman: the capital markets are simply a branch office – branch casino – of the central bank. That's essentially what we have today.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:14 | 2791835 debtor of last ...
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When the Bernank drops his shorts tonight, i bet he looks like a unicorn...

Haha!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:15 | 2791841 Flakmeister
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So much reckless printing....

How did it ever come to this??

=======

I paraphrase, you can score Flak points for the original source  and just to be clear, the above is what is known as a rhetorical device, I know fucking well how we got here...

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:37 | 2792165 sdmjake
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"So much Death. What can men do against such reckless hate?"

-Theoden, King of Rohan

(and the answer to the question: "Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them" ....for death and glory)

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 18:04 | 2792295 Flakmeister
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I tip my cap....

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 18:16 | 2792342 sdmjake
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Thanks for letting me play... Great artists works have a way of popping up in your head even when looking at the ordinary. (Hell, i can't look at a pic of Tim Geitner without seeing WB7's version of him as a fast food worker!)

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:17 | 2791855 lizzy36
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Fours years after LEH and Bernanke now looking to blow an open ended bubble.

I LMAO when he talked about this being a "Main Street Program" - hoping that the 20% who own stocks trickle down their wealth effect to the 80% that don't.

La Price Stability = $6 a gallon gas. 

I wonder if they teach Princeton Ph.d economists about STAGFLATION, margin compression and the death of end demand. Somehow, i don't think so.

Ahhhh but all is good "open ended" = qe4evr. #booyah!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:54 | 2792036 Flakmeister
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Peak Oil is a bitch eh??

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:06 | 2792078 Spastica Rex
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I hear there's some huge shale play almost on deck or something. They'll have to give gasoline away, it'll be so cheap. Or something.

What do you think BO is gonna do?

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 18:12 | 2792327 Flakmeister
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I don't think he is going to do anything, if only because there is nothing to do.... The sad thing is that even *if* there was something to do, Congress would rather obfuscate than cooperate....

People will soon realize that back in '08, HOPE really meant, I hope we find a new cheap source of oil...

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:17 | 2791860 Son of Loki
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The ECB and RBA (CB of Australia) will follow suit. House prices in Australia have been falling yoy and with "layoffs" in the resource industry and constructions ector, I'm expecting their economy to slow. If China does not pick up considerably and stimulate Aussie exports, the RBA will follow Big Ben.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:17 | 2791861 BliptoP3
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You burn our embassies - we double the price of your food: the Empire Strikes Back.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:27 | 2792138 DosZap
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You burn our embassies - we double the price of your food: the Empire Strikes Back.

 

No, too easy,and far to kind.

Embassies are just buildings,American lives, and unarmed(as in no ammo) Marines, are another.(our gubs fault).

 Egypt is forming one more Satanic alliance with Iran, I am all IN for some Sodom, and Gommorah action.

The former US  empire, can still do this.

 Call all Americans home from every Muslim, Persian, and Islamic country.

Time to play END game ball. Some folks do not deserve to live.............they qualify.

NO BOOTS on the ground,your people foot the entire bill, not economically in blood.

We need a real POTUS with balls, and not a sympathetic,pathetic sell out.

You brought it on yourself,payback should be a bitch.

The Gubs of Libia & Egypt allowed this all to happen,had this action been here, the LE community would shoot down Americans like dogs,as well they should.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 23:11 | 2793376 Spastica Rex
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-1 retarded

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:20 | 2791873 rubearish10
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So wait, FED is "out of bullets" but "PUT" still in place because he'll buy more if lower and less if higher. Boy, it's good to be the King!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:19 | 2791875 Temporalist
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Where's Ron Insana to explain all of this?

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:23 | 2791890 TrustWho
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Jamie is throwing a party as he is telling his minions to find all that shitty RMBS and CMBS as quickly as possible. By the end of the year, if your department holds any MBS that has more than 10% chance of defaulting, he will personally escort the whole damn department out of the building and fire them in the street.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:29 | 2791912 roadsnbridges
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Cumon Tea Party, reject these bullshit continuing resolutions.  Make the Marxists disclose their real agenda.

F Boner.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:29 | 2791916 The Shootist
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Hi Ho, SILVER!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:38 | 2791966 roadsnbridges
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Kicking myself over dumping GPL 2 weeks ago.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:34 | 2791944 GaryNeville
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Personally I got my ass handed to me on a plate.. When the DJ popped 100 points I saw weakness and got balls to the wall short - then it popped another 100....

Only good thing is I'm not stopped out yet!   : /

I think this is a remarkable day in so many ways.. But what has Bernanke left now? Him and Draghi are both balls to the wall long the printing press and it'll be interesting to see if they can hold things together because if things go sour, and the markets realise they have nothing left in the locker, it could  be a wall of sellers.

Besides this, if this isnt all inflationary, I give up on everything I think I know about markets and economics........

Yours faithfully

Wounded (but not yet dead) bear

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:12 | 2792096 laserjock
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Paul Tudor Jones always got flat in front of a Fed announcement; he said it was just plain gambling otherwise. I learned that lesson last year.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:41 | 2792178 BeetleBailey
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Gary...under the category of "misery loves compnay - but so the fuck what"...

I am short too. In FX. I own the dollar; against the Euro, Pound and Yen - and am getting creamed.

Far from being stopped out, I am even stronger in my convictions.

To wit, this email I sent to all of them;

Clients:

As we all know by now, Ben Bernanke and the Fed announced Quantitative Easing "3" this afternoon, in the terms of buying Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS) to stimulate the economy.

Thus, by doing this, the proverbial "cat is out of the bag".

Immediate reaction was sharp - the USD strengthened, then as the stock market reacted positively, negative to the USD...

I own the USD; against the Euro, Pound and Yen.
Some of you have all three pairs - some of you have two, and some have one pair traded.

Short term, it is not good - obviously. Short term, I cannot cash in on trades.

However, as I have annotated here to you - even this morning, the "hopium" markets - full of fluff and not much else, are way ahead of themselves.

Indeed, I had less than two minutes this afternoon to decide if I was to go long (the other way) in each pair.....tough to do when the market is in flux.
At first, it indeed looked like a "sell the news" trade, with the USD strengthening.
But, they soon returned to pre-announcement levels, and began creeping against me again.

I am reticent to join the "long party" here; go risk on, when risk is so long in the tooth. The markets have rallied on hope, the fact that no where else can you make money (see bonds, money markets and the like) so people are forced into stocks.
But....volume levels of stock buying and selling are very low. Multi-year lows in some cases.

I believe these markets are "rigged". Manipulated. Hijacked. In this election year, pumped up.

Make no mistake; the currencies I sold - all of them - are countries or regions with massive problems of their own.
For now, those problems are being ignored, and the focus is on the USD.

In my experience - my history - it tells me that this is temporary - that this will pass.
The USD will strengthen in the coming days and weeks - and I have to be strong and stay my course.

I'm doing just that.

In fact, I have put in orders to buy MORE USD against the British Pound and Euro, and am stalking second level entries beyond that.

Markets don't go straight up - and this one has gone straight up 1,000 points in the past 6 weeks.
This is why our trades are down.....but, in my opinion, not for long.

I realize this looks ugly on your Daily Confirmations. I don't like it a bit.
My job is to make money for you irrespective of the markets going up or down - but I cannot buy into this .....

It is a fact that when the stocks markets of the world correct, go down - the USD gets stronger.

I want you to look - clearly - at what is happening in the world today.
All of it.

Does it make sense at all that the stock markets are up at multi-year highs?

There is much uncertainty in the world.

Too much, for this stock market - that closed up another 200 points today - to continue going up.
Can it more? Sure...but will it - now - after all this - and now that "QE3" has been revealed?

My gut says no - and if so, not much more. All three sold currencies have huge problems.
The market will come back to reality - probably sooner than I think.

Therefore, I am drawing a line in the sand here; I am sticking to my guns, and staying the course, at the risk of losing the faith and confidence of some of you - some, who were used to banking money daily for them in years past, and not receiving emails like this.

I am staking my reputation on it - my future.

That is how strongly I feel about it.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 23:33 | 2793430 stocktivity
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Logic doesn't work anymore...it's rigged. What part of that don't you get?

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:35 | 2791955 SpeakerFTD
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Isn't the ugly endgame now one where MBS eventually trade inside Treasuries?      Anything to prevent MTGSPRD from printing negative?

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:41 | 2791977 roadsnbridges
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Dear Berskanke,

Please directly give me 4 mil for my 3.6 mil CM I need to re-fi.

 

Sincerely,

the next LIESman

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:42 | 2791985 mccoyspace
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a day made for AGQ.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:50 | 2792008 Yen Cross
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 Tyler?!  Chart reading, "101" left side low, right side high!

                                                                                    Any Questions?

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:55 | 2792030 roadsnbridges
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Ya, what's left?

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 16:52 | 2792027 roadsnbridges
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I'm voting Ester Williams.

She looked better in a bathing suit, and has more brains than these current retards.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:02 | 2792063 Yellowhoard
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Squirrel!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:03 | 2792068 roadsnbridges
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Spear chucker!

Hope that throw is better than a baseball.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:03 | 2792067 Spastica Rex
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At some point, making fun of Facebook will get boring.

But not yet.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:04 | 2792072 roadsnbridges
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Cumon, never.  Dips keep buying it expecting the next GOOG.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:12 | 2792097 The Shootist
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Myspace Book.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 18:25 | 2792381 Brazillionaire
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The best avatar in all of ZH, IMHO. Who is that? Ward Cleaver? Makes me laugh every time I see it.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 19:08 | 2792562 Spastica Rex
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That's Bob, and I'm Bob.

Bob is pretty awesome.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:26 | 2792110 Floodmaster
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Benny is so predictable, Thank you !

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:20 | 2792119 El
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I think it will be very interesting to see what the overnight markets do...particular with regard to silver.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:27 | 2792141 Yen Cross
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El , expand your horizons? http://www.forexpros.com/rates-bonds/u.s.-10-year-bond-yield

  Real time quotes.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:44 | 2792190 El
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Thank you! I think I will :)

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:28 | 2792146 nestle
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Benny is da man!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 17:59 | 2792273 lolmaster
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KAMIPONZI !!!!!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 18:02 | 2792287 booboo
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Long solar panels, fasteners and roof cement. Going to start spinning that electric meter backwards. Fuck what that egomaniac BB does and don't do.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 18:02 | 2792289 yourfather
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To the son of loki who said rba will follow the fed. I don't think you understand bond buying vs rate targetting. Rba may lower rates but they won't be outright buying securities for dollars until tshtf. Loan securitization in au is low and the rba would be dealing with bank failure and would have to do asset purchases of entire loan books from bigger banks.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 18:04 | 2792297 buzzsaw99
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so many on here said no more qe. it's okay, we still love you. :*)

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 18:07 | 2792312 GoodMorningMr.V...
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That picture and title! Perefect for today. This was a good one Tylers.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 18:07 | 2792313 Tombstone
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Barnacle Benny went full tilt attempting to save his and The Dictator's jobs.  The elite will continue to get richer and when it all crashes down, the majority will be the new slave class.  Poorer than dirt and chained to the rock of socialism.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 18:18 | 2792350 tawse57
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So what do we now all do - pile into stocks and PMs? Doesn't seem to be any other choice as cash will be inflated away.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 18:21 | 2792360 americanspirit
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Write this down somewhere so you can remember it when the news finally breaks - Ben Bernanke is a deep mole for Chinese intelligence following a plan entitled "Central Planning As A Strategic Weapon". You can take that to the bank and cash it.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 18:27 | 2792387 tallen
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I wonder how long it'll be till we start talking about the possibility of QE4. The desomorphine addicted market needs MORE!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 18:31 | 2792401 booboo
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All anyone really needs to do is to listen to Farber: "Print, Print, Print" Just keep playing that clip until it is engrained.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 19:07 | 2792559 icanhasbailout
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facebubbles don't even last a full afternoon anymore

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:37 | 2792891 Massholio
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I now realize ZH is a government plant. The goal is to make anyone with a hope for a more sensible future so discouraged they put an entry and an exit wound throught their skull.This gives the Orkin Man less work to do. If you buy gold it will be confiscated = you are fucked. If you hold on to the currency of the realm to buy food you = also fucked. Ben wil print your currency into worthlessness while making it illegal (violence against you and your family)l to hold gold. so long, thanks for all the fish!

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:54 | 2792916 alentia
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The time will come when President will announce "The Country is in Trouble" and people of United States of America need your gold - the Presidential Order will be issued.

So basically, the President (most likely democrat) will ask you to bend over... It is your choice if you will or not. If you have your gold in ETF, certificates or bought from the "BIG" US company which will be forced to release information under presidential order you will have no choice. 

If you bought your gold from a Canadian Company, your chances of being raped are not so grim.

ZH just prepares you for the future :)

 

Little Canadian brothers will always come to the resque...and after that will be forgotten as always.

GoldenMoney

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 20:58 | 2792953 Massholio
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Ha ha, I appreciate your optimism, wish I could catch it. I believe they will not strike us with a hammer, but through an attrition like a long winter, and squeeze us through hunger and vilolence.  maybe things will turn around, and I'm just an asshole.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:18 | 2793015 jimmyjames
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The time will come when President will announce "The Country is in Trouble" and people of United States of America need your gold -

********

I doubt it-the people don't have any gold-they have underwater real-estate -that's what they've been buying for the past 30 years-look at this board for an example-from all the negativity that's been thrown out here about gold-i suspect not even half the posters hold gold-

So why would they bother with confiscation-the last time gold was confiscated it was in order to halt bank runs because gold was interchangeable with paper (and the banks didn't have enough gold to redeem-

http://bit.ly/xPhPSI

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 21:18 | 2793016 jimmyjames
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The time will come when President will announce "The Country is in Trouble" and people of United States of America need your gold -

********

I doubt it-the people don't have any gold-they have underwater real-estate -that's what they've been buying for the past 30 years-look at this board for an example-from all the negativity that's been thrown out here about gold-i suspect not even half the posters hold gold-

So why would they bother with confiscation-the last time gold was confiscated it was in order to halt bank runs because gold was interchangeable with paper (and the banks didn't have enough gold to redeem-

http://bit.ly/xPhPSI

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 00:26 | 2793527 MeelionDollerBogus
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when the first big stash is found it will be used - to take that stash and all the others.

Feds seize gold coins worth $80 mln from Pennsylvania family — RT

Boating accidents, bitchez

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 00:52 | 2793560 jimmyjames
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Because the government ordered the destruction of their entire supply of coins decades earlier, the court found that Switt’s family was illegally in possession of the stash. Even though they may had been presented to the dealer by a Philadelphia Mint staffer, Judge Davis agrees with last year’s ruling that Mr. McCann broke the law.

***********

A bit of a leap to get to confiscation of gold don't you think?

It has been perfectly legal to buy and hold gold-so-they can't come from that angle-

What about opening swiss bank accounts looking for illegal money-are they confiscating money that has been transferred and held legally?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 00:27 | 2793529 MeelionDollerBogus
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ALL gold ALL shares ALL retirement accounts will be traded out at illegitimate prices without consent for BONDS, TREASURIES to "protect you from price instability"

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 22:18 | 2793214 MeelionDollerBogus
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What goes up must come down

Very soon SPY (DIA, dow, s&p500, qqq, nasdaq) will crash
see also: stocktwits.com/message/9521252 , flic.kr/p/bnbsG5

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